Battlestar Galactica to the Big Screen?

[Aussie Warrior]

I see it, i'll see what i can do to help in there

[Sarika]

Indeed thay have my support 100%!:salute::colonial:

[LordStarFyre]

Athene

Please put my name on the Petition!

IN BIG BOLD, 120PT TYPE










btw, CAN I PLEASE CALL FOR A ROUSING CHORUS OF "DING DONG GINOS GONE!"

[monolith21]

I was waiting for that! First round is on me!

Okay I'll behave.

[KJ]

We could start an online petition and send it off to Universal to let them know how serious we are about wanting a TOS BSG movie!


Nope, considering the past we shouldn't have to petition for anything. They know its something LONG overdue so why go the extra mile for it when the demand has been there on-and-off for a BSG movie, for god knows how long.

Although its taken 40 plus years for superhero movies to get their due; Superman The Movie (1978), Batman (1989/2005) Spider-man (2002), Iron-Man (2008) etc. Science fiction series to movies on the other hand, shouldn't be taking this long to get made if they're clearly apart of pop culture. Its been a bloody crime somewhat for TPTB to jerk people/fans around like this. Would you petition for your own money at the bank when they're messing around with you during the 'Credit Crunch'? (sounds like a breakfast cereal doesn't it)

Like i've said before, fans should do what necessary to get a movie going, but don't ever jump through "hoops" for these people with their own agendas. And considering how widespread BSG fans are these days, those that were involved and those that are fans but simply just voiced their opinions to see a 'Battlestar' movie long ago in magazines and whatnot. We've been down this road several times with absolutely no reward whatsoever!

We're not sad, so why put a target on our backs yet again, saying hit me?

Nah, online petitions are clearly a thing of the past. If Universal's serious about a BSG movie, then THEY not us need to prove it. Galactica fans have proved they're fans for decades, why chain ourselves up and be abused further still? Universal NEEDS to put out a website with forums, clips, news announcements, be in the media headlines etc and whatnot, saying there's a new movie on the way, like all the other sci-fi/fantasy film projects on the horizons out there.

Until that happens, i'll do what mans on here says and enjoy this series for what it was. And let the numerous fan projects we've got, be more of an interesting thing to be apart of!

KJ

[Eric Paddon]

I agree. I have had it with signing petitions of ANY kind regarding Galactica. I've done it probably more than a half dozen times for various things in the past, and each time I learn how worthless a gesture it is. It's time for the powers that be to do something I can put faith in to give support to, or forget it.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Online petitions mean nothing to Universal.

[peter noble]

I have to agree with the three gentlemen before me.

[Dawg]

As do I.

Dollars mean more to any studio exec than any other consideration. Business has taken over show business, and left creativity in the dust. They won't even look at an internet petition (we found that out a few years ago, didn't we?). What we have to do is, somehow, show the studio execs that they will make money hand-over-fist if they produce a TOS BSG product.

I think battlestarfanfilms.com is a good place to start.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[Aussie Warrior]

Perhaps a site should have a guide or something on the best prices for BSG models etc so fans could snap them up hopefully meaning Universal gets more money and sees the original series is giving them a nice financial cushion therefore hopefully obtaining the logic that if fans pay for toys/models then they'll happily pay $15 a movie ticket or $30 a DVD (rough figures).

Also about battlestarfanfilms.com i think we somehow need to promote it as the fan place to see how a continuation is extremely possible maybe through a united network of Galactica sites, modelling sites and of course general Sci-Fi sites and forums all pointing to each other etc to increase traffic and maybe artists confidence in showing their talent.

[BST]

Also about battlestarfanfilms.com i think we somehow need to promote it as the fan place to see how a continuation is extremely possible maybe through a united network of Galactica sites, modelling sites and of course general Sci-Fi sites and forums all pointing to each other etc to increase traffic and maybe artists confidence in showing their talent.

Agreed. While it would be nice to have a "place to go", to view these fanfilms, I think that it is probably more important to network these Galactica sites, once and for all.

[Aussie Warrior]

The sooner the better, the clock is ticking

[monolith21]

I'm hoping that once we get this costuming group up and running (its well on its way!) it will be a good resource for Battlestar fan films. Helping out with such productions will be a major focus.

[ernie90125]

I'm flattered that my site has received such attention !

There was a plan a while ago at BG.com to bring all the sites under one umbrella, Richard Hatch and I discussed it on the phone too, but a year later this and his other plans he mentioned have yet to happen.

I'm also concerned that in the last year my site hasn't received any new fanfilms ? I know of about half a dozen CGI shorts in the works, but they've been 'in the works' for a long time ! I'll happily update my site as often as we have new TOS fanfilms coming in.

To those who have stuff on their hard drives or the ability to create TOS animations, please hear this call....

Having a strong web presence, with regular new material, co-operation and updates can only be beneficial to our cause, so I'm certainly willing to do what I can with www.battlestarfanfilms.com

[Athene]

We as fans have waited a long, long time to get a TOS BSG movie.
I don't know if anyone remembers the letter writing campaign that fans did for Star Trek TOS. We can do one for TOS BSG. We want our movie and we want it NOW!
I say a letter writing campaign wouldn't hurt.
I say let's flood the mailboxes of Universal.
No..we won't be abused or chained up...we will be respected for the passionate TOS BSG fans that we are...
Maybe someone here just might write a terrific script for the film. ;)
'Nuff said. :D

[Athene]

I'm flattered that my site has received such attention !

There was a plan a while ago at BG.com to bring all the sites under one umbrella, Richard Hatch and I discussed it on the phone too, but a year later this and his other plans he mentioned have yet to happen.

I'm also concerned that in the last year my site hasn't received any new fanfilms ? I know of about half a dozen CGI shorts in the works, but they've been 'in the works' for a long time ! I'll happily update my site as often as we have new TOS fanfilms coming in.

To those who have stuff on their hard drives or the ability to create TOS animations, please hear this call....

Having a strong web presence, with regular new material, co-operation and updates can only be beneficial to our cause, so I'm certainly willing to do what I can with www.battlestarfanfilms.com

Your MOST welcome! :salute:

I've got that site bookmarked on my computer. :)

[monolith21]

I think the bummer is that we've tried online petitions and letter writing campaigns...and then we got Gino. That is at least why I think so many are not open to the idea.

That said, I can't see that it would hurt. Jericho sent nuts...smallville sent pencils during the strike...we should send something other than just letters. They tend to take notice when it something fun or surprising. The one thing they won't give us is time so they aren't going to read letters. However if a truck pulls up with thousands of nuts from a fan group it makes them raise an eyebrow.

What the heck could we send? Preferably in one big group and not individually. I was going to suggest Popcorn but that may open some old wounds!

http://www.nutsonline.com/jericho (http://www.nutsonline.com/jericho)

[ernie90125]

We could send Mushies !!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, we've done stuff before and it hasn't worked, so it needs to be something new.

That's why I've proposed a TV advert, plus continuing to hope that The 14th Colony will happen so we have something to rival New Voyages. A big bang is needed.

[monolith21]

I think the TV advert, theatrical advert, and whatever else we can do would be amazing. I was thinking of something to send as an initial eye opener. I'm thinking of this thing in waves!

We could send carmel pop corn. That is on there. They worked with the Jericho fans so maybe they'll work with us. The pop corn isn't as cheap as peanuts, two bucks more per pound. CBS definitely stood up and took notice.

Here is the letter they sent out:

To the Fans of Jericho:

Wow!

Over the past few weeks you have put forth an impressive and probably unprecedented display of passion in support of a prime time television series. You got our attention; your emails and collective voice have been heard.

As a result, CBS has ordered seven episodes of "Jericho" for mid-season next year. In success, there is the potential for more. But, for there to be more "Jericho," we will need more viewers.

A loyal and passionate community has clearly formed around the show. But that community needs to grow. It needs to grow on the CBS Television Network, as well as on the many digital platforms where we make the show available.

We will count on you to rally around the show, to recruit new viewers with the same grass-roots energy, intensity and volume you have displayed in recent weeks.

At this time, I cannot tell you the specific date or time period that "Jericho" will return to our schedule. However, in the interim, we are working on several initiatives to help introduce the show to new audiences. This includes re-broadcasting "Jericho" on CBS this summer, streaming episodes and clips from these episodes across the CBS Audience Network (online), releasing the first season DVD on September 25 and continuing the story of Jericho in the digital world until the new episodes return. We will let you know specifics when we have them so you can pass them on.

On behalf of everyone at CBS, thank you for expressing your support of "Jericho" in such an extraordinary manner. Your protest was creative, sustained and very thoughtful and respectful in tone. You made a difference.

Sincerely,

Nina Tassler
President, CBS Entertainment

P.S. Please stop sending us nuts :-)

[BST]

I think the bummer is that we've tried online petitions and letter writing campaigns...and then we got Gino. That is at least why I think so many are not open to the idea.

That said, I can't see that it would hurt. Jericho sent nuts...smallville sent pencils during the strike...we should send something other than just letters. They tend to take notice when it something fun or surprising. The one thing they won't give us is time so they aren't going to read letters. However if a truck pulls up with thousands of nuts from a fan group it makes them raise an eyebrow.

What the heck could we send? Preferably in one big group and not individually. I was going to suggest Popcorn but that may open some old wounds!

http://www.nutsonline.com/jericho (http://www.nutsonline.com/jericho)


Letter writing is a nice idea - has the human touch - but, look around. How many of us are here, at any given time? Even the total number of members (1500+), is a spit in the bucket.

Online petitions suffer from lack of credibility. A person could go by an infinite number of names and sign the petition with each.



What you need is something that will reach as many as possible and ask them to do something as easy as possible.


Example:

Produce an advertisement in a popular magazine which asks folks to send a text message or an email to a particular cell phone # or email address (like the president of Universal Studio) that you know will be seen by the intended party.

[ernie90125]

I think we need to do something different to what we've done before.

I don't want to knock other people's ideas, not at all, but a repeat of CFF won't, in my humble opinion, move us any further forward. I'm sure it is known that there is a core fanbase of TOS fans. A magazine advert tells them that, but I'm sure they already know we exist ! Thousands of fans texting one particular person is likely to annoy them !

We need to remind the general public how good TOS was, in an enjoyable way, which we haven't done before.

[BST]

Thousands of fans texting one particular person is likely to annoy them !


The key is unique and verifiiable - multiple cell phones or email addresses going to a particular destination that is "in-house", as opposed to signing a petition at a website operated by some transparent individual that know one has ever seen.

[newt]

Well.

It has been over three years since I logged on here, and probably more like seven since I was a regular poster. To those who remember me, hello. To those who don't, hello :)

To paraphrase "GINO", what has happened before will happen again. And what has happened before was rumors, hopes, and so on. I was quite active many years ago supporting a revival of Galactica. I really thought that either Hatch or DeSanto was giing to create a successful project.

Moore's Galactica turned out pretty good. I thought the series finale was decent. Although a part of me was hoping for an alternate universe type ending where we would see the old Galactica... In some odd way, though, the series ending did leave a loophole for TOS to interact with Moore's.

Anyway, bottom line about these Galactica rumors: I'll believe it when I see it. Really, the time to do it has been squandered...what would it have been like to have John Colicos as Baltar again...and, let's face it, Hatch and Benedict ain;t gonna be zipping around in Vipers anymore.

But I suppose a rumor may lead to something.

N

[BST]

Newt!

Welcome back!!

Dang it, it's been a long time.... regardless, it's good to see you again!

:)

[monolith21]

I'm digging the caramel popcorn idea. They'll love us!

[Aussie Warrior]

An campaign must always be exciting and fresh, if you don't do that then you'll fall into the Save Enterprise pit and it hurts big time because i hate to say it but SE used the same playbook too many times (often without choice) and it cost supporters and new ones were hard to find and bang SE collapsed.

Has anybody considered Facebook as a campaign avenue? millions of people join groups everyday and TOS Galactica groups are not exactly in plentiful supply so you could form a group and link sites and pictures and videos etc and that could bring in new people to the forums and sites in the Galactica fan universe.

[monolith21]

I've run a Myspace group for the original series for a few years now and it doesn't really get a lot of attention beyond the people who post there. Its one of the bigger BSG groups on myspace. There have been some...interesting times there.

There are a few I belong to on Facebook. Any ideas on how to make 'em stand out?

[Aussie Warrior]

Support from other sites, for example i got a Enterprise news group called Enterprise News Today on Facebook and Myspace and it gives Enterprise fans the latest possible news and on the front we mention Trekhorizons.com as a place we support etc and on Trekhorizons.com a Enterprise news piece comes from E.N.T and virtually it is you cover my back i'll cover yours and yeah as more groups see you they promote and you promote back and it spreads as everyone gets to know about each others existence.

Yes it is sort of like links on your standard website but on Facebook if you put your supported sites in the news section it is the first thing a visitor will see and that could help.

[Athene]

Letter writing is a nice idea - has the human touch - but, look around. How many of us are here, at any given time? Even the total number of members (1500+), is a spit in the bucket.

Online petitions suffer from lack of credibility. A person could go by an infinite number of names and sign the petition with each.

What you need is something that will reach as many as possible and ask them to do something as easy as possible.

Example:

Produce an advertisement in a popular magazine which asks folks to send a text message or an email to a particular cell phone # or email address (like the president of Universal Studio) that you know will be seen by the intended party.
I agree with what you said about online petitions.
Maybe we can all get together and draft an advertisement. We could also post it on the net as well.
How about an official adverstisement designed by the members at Colonial Fleets?
Good idea?

[Athene]

Support from other sites, for example i got a Enterprise news group called Enterprise News Today on Facebook and Myspace and it gives Enterprise fans the latest possible news and on the front we mention Trekhorizons.com as a place we support etc and on Trekhorizons.com a Enterprise news piece comes from E.N.T and virtually it is you cover my back i'll cover yours and yeah as more groups see you they promote and you promote back and it spreads as everyone gets to know about each others existence.

Yes it is sort of like links on your standard website but on Facebook if you put your supported sites in the news section it is the first thing a visitor will see and that could help.
I belong to a support site at myspace.
I'm not on facebook.
I don't know if there is one there, but, I'm going to take a look and join up.

[ernie90125]

I agree with what you said about online petitions.
Maybe we can all get together and draft an advertisement. We could also post it on the net as well.
How about an official adverstisement designed by the members at Colonial Fleets?
Good idea?

How about this one :

http://www.battlestarfanfilms.com/cinescape.jpg

Anyone recognise it ? :D

[Athene]

How about creating a site at ning?
There's TREKSPACE for example.
We could start a site about TOS BSG.

[Athene]

How about this one :

http://www.battlestarfanfilms.com/cinescape.jpg

Anyone recognise it ? :D

I forgot about that one!:blush:

Thanks! for the reminder. :salute:

[KJ]

I think the bummer is that we've tried online petitions and letter writing campaigns...and then we got Gino. That is at least why I think so many are not open to the idea.

That said, I can't see that it would hurt. Jericho sent nuts...smallville sent pencils during the strike...we should send something other than just letters. They tend to take notice when it something fun or surprising. The one thing they won't give us is time so they aren't going to read letters. However if a truck pulls up with thousands of nuts from a fan group it makes them raise an eyebrow.

What the heck could we send? Preferably in one big group and not individually. I was going to suggest Popcorn but that may open some old wounds!




:D:LOL:

GOOD!

I say reopen those old wounds, cos they messed up twice before. In not greenlighting Hatch's "Second Coming" as a continuation and then further still canning the Singer/DeSanto revival a mere 2 weeks before filming. Then having the former Sci-Fi Channel president trash the nearly completed sets* months later instead of saving them ('edit'- *although with nearly two weeks to go til actual filming would've begun, one wonders now, did DeSanto actually save any pictures in his folder of the practically completed Sets/Vipers?! You know? That one he likes to show to fans at conventions with never before seen pics?).

And yet we're still here? And why is that you ask, cos many of us would still want to see BSG done properly thats why!

The popcorn joke is something that fans originally wanted to go against Moore with. Well he had his shot at BSG, so here might be another opportunity to use this. Of course, somebody would have to dig up his old popcorn statement where Moore said all that jazz in those old magazines and whatnot, and put some small amount of popcorn on it or around a popcorn bucket/container and mail it in!

:D

Maybe even add a reference to the campaign to save 'Jericho' with the "nuts" and possibly any other kind of fancy similar campaign by fans of other TV shows etc.

Just get everyone organised, put some popcorn with Moore's statement around it, with a From 1978 to ??? and we're still waiting for the 'Big budget' motion picture? etc and send it in. I think its kinda low-key in a good way, but also kinda rebelious by the BSG fans to want to grab the TPTB attention like this.

I think we need to do something different to what we've done before.

I don't want to knock other people's ideas, not at all, but a repeat of CFF won't, in my humble opinion, move us any further forward. I'm sure it is known that there is a core fanbase of TOS fans. A magazine advert tells them that, but I'm sure they already know we exist ! Thousands of fans texting one particular person is likely to annoy them !

We need to remind the general public how good TOS was, in an enjoyable way, which we haven't done before.

Agreed 100% ernie!

But perhaps, getting an effort behind seeing BSG re-mastered and onto Blu-Ray HD-DVD is the way to go first, with CFF's help! And as i've stated in this thread before, possibly by making up 'Ads' like the CFF effort's Singer/DeSanto BSG ads would be the way to go. And making up a poster/i.e. wannabe-DVD advertisment ad with David Kerin's BSG fan edit images and a possible list of requirements that a special Blu-Ray HD-DVD project like this, would entail etc. And that such an effort wouldn't be a repeat of the previous BSG DVD's and would be packed with all-new extra features, be totally uncut for the first time with deleted scenes and be restored with all-new picture and audio and remastered in 5.1 or even 7.1!

Once CFF does something like that, with even a 'fake trailer' made up mostly with DK's CGI material in his BSG edits and tailored to be like a promotional What if request to Universal. Then later maybe, a letter writing campaign to Uni can begin again in unison by fans with a more focused effort, in getting that BSG motion picture deal finally inked.

And we'd also request that Tom DeSanto be a part of the revival to get a Galactica motion picture out; as 'Executive Producer', Glen Larson can be a 'Consultant' etc.

KJ

[Aussie Warrior]

:D:LOL:

GOOD!

I say reopen those old wounds, cos they messed up twice before. In not greenlighting Hatch's "Second Coming" as a continuation and then further still canning the Singer/DeSanto revival a mere 2 weeks before filming. Then having the former Sci-Fi Channel president trash the nearly completed sets* months later instead of saving them ('edit'- *although with nearly two weeks to go til actual filming would've begun, one wonders now, did DeSanto actually save any pictures in his folder of the practically completed Sets/Vipers?! You know? That one he likes to show to fans at conventions with never before seen pics?).



How about making an online ad/video depicting that two chances have been let go and that this third chance should not be let go even though it is only rumor and it has come many times, somehow got to compile all this into one ad/video.

[Athene]

How about making an online ad/video depicting that two chances have been let go and that this third chance should not be let go even though it is only rumor and it has come many times, somehow got to compile all this into one ad/video.
I think an online ad/video is a great idea.
A fan made trailer for the TOS BSG movie can also be made.
I've seen some really good ones at YouTube.

[monolith21]

Whatever we do I think the only real stipulation is that we have to be respectful. That is how the Jericho thing worked. I know a lot of us would rather smack an exec than send them caramel pop corn, but I can quite positively say that one of those options will hurt our cause rather than help it in any way.

We could also send un popped pop corn for cheaper, but the popped stuff takes up more space!!! I just want them to think about us more than when it arrives. They'd probabaly pass out the caramel pop corn to the staff. Then everyone would want to know where it came from...and there we are!

[Eric Paddon]

If there ever were, miracle of miracles a true continuation we could take pride in, I know I'd love to have us all send cases and cases of popcorn to Ron Moore as a metaphorical way of sticking it to him.

[martok2112]

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It just isn't worth the time. While I'm glad the new series ended on its own terms, and I enjoyed almost every single episode....that's the last I'm going to say of it.

Have fun bashing the new (concluded) series, contrary to the rules of this forum!

I'm out. While I hope a movie does arise (one that is truer to form of the original series), I cannot abide what's being permitted here.

[Dawg]

Yeah. Let's keep the conversation on pushing for a classic BSG project, not on sticking it to anybody, or dancing on a grave, OK?

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[Athene]

Yeah. Let's keep the conversation on pushing for a classic BSG project, not on sticking it to anybody, or dancing on a grave, OK?

I am
Dawg
:warrior:
I 100% agree! :salute:
I'm here because I am TOS BSG fan and have been one for 30 years. :)
I am very passionate about TOS BSG and am here to talk about TOS BSG and a future TOS BSG movie.
'Nuff said. :D

[Eric Paddon]

If I expressed something out of turn, I apologize for that (though I'm not about to apologize for feeling as I do that way on that particular matter). Some of us I think do view the end of that other show as a moment where some cathartic feelings need to be expressed, especially if we happen to be among those who think that there isn't much to hang any hopes on as far as a genuine continuation is concerned. What started out as a Larson "rumor" has more and more started to look just like the last set of "rumors" we tried to rally ourselves around before, and I for one don't like seeing hopes raised falsely once again or hearing suggestions about signing petitions when they never worked before and the Powers That Be only ratcheted up the levels of disrespect for the series we loved and its fanbase.

[Dawg]

Well, I'm with you on that, Eric. But there are a lot of constructive thoughts being shared here that just might make the rumor of a new project of secondary importance.

We're talking about doing new writing, new fanfilms, getting some exposure to the classic BSG universe (and now is certainly the time we need positive entertainment). And we're talking about doing it out of our interest in the universe. In expanding the interest in the universe.

If we're ever going to see a studio-produced BSG effort (helmed by DeSanto or whomever), it will be because the suits will see the public interest.

This is a great thread, and it makes me very, very happy to read.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[ernie90125]

This is a great thread, and it makes me very, very happy to read.

Well said that man !!!!!

:thumbsup:

[Athene]

I think that we can all agree that we're passionate about TOS BSG.
It's great to see fan films, fan made trailers, fan fiction and artwork and many other projects.
There's definitely an interest and a very, very strong one for TOS BSG.
It would be wonderful to see a TOS BSG movie.
I also wanted to say THANK YOU for sites like this one that keep TOS BSG alive and well.
Long Live TOS BSG! :salute:

[Athene]

This is a great thread, and it makes me very, very happy to read.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:
Well said! :salute:

[Aussie Warrior]

With the interest in fan films i am pulling my very very basic animation production (using Macromedia Flash) out of the hard drive abyss and work on it.

Who knows maybe i can inspire somebody to do much better but for certain it be one more project for people to check out and thats what count

[Gemini1999]

I'd also like to say how happy I am that there was even this particular thread that did as much to spark just a bit more interest in the original series and bring a few familiar faces back to CF to even ponder the possibility of a TOS-based project. Even if it doesn't come about, the spark of discussion is welcome and so are plenty of the ideas being talked about as well. Sometimes, we get so focused on the idea that if we start a petition, or writing campaign, or whatever kind of effort there is, we forget that it's not the end result that counts, but the effort itself. If someone spends hours of their lives creating a 1:1 replica of the filming model of the Galactica, are they expecting a film or TV deal to come of it? Frankly, I love seeing folks create art, fanfic, CGI, models, costumes or what have you. If nothing else, it tells me that they truly honor the original series and the memories it holds for them. It's easy to sit around and wait for someone else to do something big, but until then, do what you can to honor the original and be willing to show it off on a website, or a convention. It will remind people that there are folks out there like us that remember the original fondly and even thought it's been gone for 30 years, we still find new ways to show our devotion to it.

I would like to remind everyone of one thing though - remember how we used to complain about articles that trashed the orignal series when comparing it to the new series? Conversely, it doesn't really do us any favors if we sit around and trash the new series in comparison to our favorite version. We gave up that part of the discussion on this site many years ago, mostly because of the discourse that came of that type of discussion. I'd like to think of TOS BSG fans to be better than that and keep the focus of the discussion in our own backyard so to speak. If folks want to talk about Moore's series, then there's always Skiffy or a host of other sites to do that. Colonial Fleets has always been first and foremost a TOS-themed site and is likely not to change in the future.

Thanks to everyone for participating in the discussion and thanks for being the great folks you are for showing your devotion to a 30-year old show. Some might call it a "one season wonder", but it always holds a permanent place in my heart.

Bryan

[Kester Pelagius]

If I expressed something out of turn, I apologize for that (though I'm not about to apologize for feeling as I do that way on that particular matter). Some of us I think do view the end of that other show as a moment where some cathartic feelings need to be expressed,

You should see what's going on in the IMDB forums for the series. Your commentary is tame by comparisson.

I can honestly say I've posted more in the last week or two at IMDB in that forum than I have in all the years I've had the account. Granted it's mostly because I'm online researching stuff for Galactica Saga and it's, well, it's an trainwreck you just can't keep your eyes off of.

:wtf:

What started out as a Larson "rumor" has more and more started to look just like the last set of "rumors" we tried to rally ourselves around before, and I for one don't like seeing hopes raised falsely once again or hearing suggestions about signing petitions when they never worked before and the Powers That Be only ratcheted up the levels of disrespect for the series we loved and its fanbase.

You hit the clown on the nose. There's currently no respect for the genre at NBC Universal. Just look at what they allowed sciffy- sorry sciphylis- to do to Flash Gordon.

That was criminal.

[Kester Pelagius]

I'd also like to say how happy I am that there was even this particular thread that did as much to spark just a bit more interest in the original series and bring a few familiar faces back to CF to even ponder the possibility of a TOS-based project. Even if it doesn't come about, the spark of discussion is welcome and so are plenty of the ideas being talked about as well. Sometimes, we get so focused on the idea that if we start a petition, or writing campaign, or whatever kind of effort there is, we forget that it's not the end result that counts, but the effort itself. If someone spends hours of their lives creating a 1:1 replica of the filming model of the Galactica, are they expecting a film or TV deal to come of it? Frankly, I love seeing folks create art, fanfic, CGI, models, costumes or what have you. If nothing else, it tells me that they truly honor the original series and the memories it holds for them. It's easy to sit around and wait for someone else to do something big, but until then, do what you can to honor the original and be willing to show it off on a website, or a convention.

In that spirit let me just say. .

I will be expecting you (and YOU and YOU over there in the corner) to comment on Galactica Saga when I start posting it.

:salute:

[Athene]

I'd also like to say how happy I am that there was even this particular thread that did as much to spark just a bit more interest in the original series and bring a few familiar faces back to CF to even ponder the possibility of a TOS-based project. Even if it doesn't come about, the spark of discussion is welcome and so are plenty of the ideas being talked about as well. Sometimes, we get so focused on the idea that if we start a petition, or writing campaign, or whatever kind of effort there is, we forget that it's not the end result that counts, but the effort itself. If someone spends hours of their lives creating a 1:1 replica of the filming model of the Galactica, are they expecting a film or TV deal to come of it? Frankly, I love seeing folks create art, fanfic, CGI, models, costumes or what have you. If nothing else, it tells me that they truly honor the original series and the memories it holds for them. It's easy to sit around and wait for someone else to do something big, but until then, do what you can to honor the original and be willing to show it off on a website, or a convention. It will remind people that there are folks out there like us that remember the original fondly and even thought it's been gone for 30 years, we still find new ways to show our devotion to it.

I would like to remind everyone of one thing though - remember how we used to complain about articles that trashed the orignal series when comparing it to the new series? Conversely, it doesn't really do us any favors if we sit around and trash the new series in comparison to our favorite version. We gave up that part of the discussion on this site many years ago, mostly because of the discourse that came of that type of discussion. I'd like to think of TOS BSG fans to be better than that and keep the focus of the discussion in our own backyard so to speak. If folks want to talk about Moore's series, then there's always Skiffy or a host of other sites to do that. Colonial Fleets has always been first and foremost a TOS-themed site and is likely not to change in the future.

Thanks to everyone for participating in the discussion and thanks for being the great folks you are for showing your devotion to a 30-year old show. Some might call it a "one season wonder", but it always holds a permanent place in my heart.

Bryan
Very Well said! :salute:
It's also holds a permanent place in my heart. :girl:
I would like to raise a toast to one of the finest sci-fi shows ever aired on TV. :beer:
Long Live TOS BSG! ;)

[Athene]

I'm writing a script on what I would l like to see in a TOS BSG movie.
How about a fan made TOS BSG movie?
I've seen some fan made movies on YouTube that are really, really good.
Good idea?

[monolith21]

I love all the writing that is going on! Bring on the fan films! I might just go finish revising mine up!

I do hope we get some news soon, but I'm all for moving forward with the fun stuff. Bring on the costumes, the fan films, the fan fiction, fan edits, and fan conversations!

[newt]

Newt!

Welcome back!!

Dang it, it's been a long time.... regardless, it's good to see you again!

:)

Thanks BST. I didn't even know if CF existed anymore...I'm glad to see it does and is in good hands :)

I don't know if it has been said before, but even the mere mention in the greater press that a possible movie based on the old series has elicited attention bodes well for the legacy that Galactica established so many years ago.

I also just recently saw TSC for he first time...last I had heard it couldn't be posted on line. I guess that has changed. Since I'm probably the last one here who had never seen it, let me just say I was floored.

Anyway, here's to imagining what could have been...and what still may be.

[monolith21]

I'll drink to that!:beer:

[peter noble]

http://knightrideronline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1042&t=14120

I'm going to state this one more time. The BSG motion picture WILL NOT be based on the Moore/Eick television version of Battlestar Galactica. It will be a re-imagining of the original classic series Glen created. This is what Glen has chosen to do with his motion picture rights

[Sarika]

I was waiting for that! First round is on me!

Okay I'll behave.

I'll behave only if you do Mark...(:D:LOL::duck:)

BTW I LURVVVVVVVVVVVVVE what I'm reading here in the latest posts!

Sounds incredible! But will some of our original cast members have parts in such a re-imagined movie of the original series? Lords I hope they do!:salute::colonial:

[monolith21]

I'm not sure where the whole "reimagining of the original" thing is coming from, but you're not the first one I've heard it from Sarika. That seems to be what everyone is assuming it is going to be but I'm not sure why. If we go on what we know of who is trying to get this thing made, they are all trying to do some form of continuation. I'll have to recheck, but I don't think the IGN article said anything about a re imagining. That is all fan generated as far as I can tell.

[Athene]

I'm not sure where the whole "reimagining of the original" thing is coming from, but you're not the first one I've heard it from Sarika. That seems to be what everyone is assuming it is going to be but I'm not sure why. If we go on what we know of who is trying to get this thing made, they are all trying to do some form of continuation. I'll have to recheck, but I don't think the IGN article said anything about a re imagining. That is all fan generated as far as I can tell.
I also thought it was a "reimagining of the original".
It would be great it if was indeed a continuation.
I'd love to see the actors back from the original series in their original roles. :)

[Athene]

I'll behave only if you do Mark...(:D:LOL::duck:)

BTW I LURVVVVVVVVVVVVVE what I'm reading here in the latest posts!

Sounds incredible! But will some of our original cast members have parts in such a re-imagined movie of the original series? Lords I hope they do!:salute::colonial:

I hope the original cast members do have a part in it. They well deserve it. ;)
May the Lords of Kobol will it! :salute:

[Athene]

http://knightrideronline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1042&t=14120
Thanks! for that link. :salute:

I also read this as well.
Yes the article is true,

Both Knight Rider: The Motion Picture and Battlestar Galactica: The Motion Picture are in development by Glen. Knight Rider is further along at the moment. It is believed scripts for both projects will also be written by him and will involve multi-picture deals.

[Damocles]

Better news, but no money yet.

[Sarika]

I'm not sure where the whole "reimagining of the original" thing is coming from, but you're not the first one I've heard it from Sarika. That seems to be what everyone is assuming it is going to be but I'm not sure why. If we go on what we know of who is trying to get this thing made, they are all trying to do some form of continuation. I'll have to recheck, but I don't think the IGN article said anything about a re imagining. That is all fan generated as far as I can tell.

Ohhhh...now where did I screw up this news?:blink:
Anyhoo, I would actually PREFER most DEFINATELY, that the movie be a true continuence not a re-imagining on TOS...(otherwise that would be rather daft, since a re-imagining version was already done, whether or not upon TOS:wtf:)

The only continuence worth doing to satisfy fans world over, is the one we all hold in our hopeful vision of one, based on picking up from where TOS left off, not doing it all over again, when it was already done the first time and in a way that can never be done over again.
;)

So I'm going to my onboard temple right now to light a million candles and pray to all the Lords of Kobol that our deep seated hopes of a continuence with original cast and tone and style, will be SO!:halo::wings::coolangel:superholy:holy::warrior:
(is my uniform turning white????:D:LOL:)

[Kester Pelagius]

I'm not sure where the whole "reimagining of the original" thing is coming from, but you're not the first one I've heard it from Sarika. That seems to be what everyone is assuming it is going to be but I'm not sure why. If we go on what we know of who is trying to get this thing made, they are all trying to do some form of continuation. I'll have to recheck, but I don't think the IGN article said anything about a re imagining. That is all fan generated as far as I can tell.

To paraphrase what I just posted in the IMDB BSG forum I think the direction this project goes depends on an number of factors, the main one being whether or not Larson is (as some irate fans have insinuated) an bitter old man pissing in the wind for attention. BSG fandom isn't getting any younger and the announced yet never materialized movie/continuation projects seems to have bitterly soured a segment of BSG fandom.

Too if, as it would seem, Larson holds only the rights/option to do movies then the real question here is what sort of BSG project is Larson planning to bring to the big screen?

As I posted at IMDB:

The only way to really make this work, IMO, is to go back to the source. Either adapt the novelization or update the original screenplays. Make it smart, find someone that knows the jargon of the space opera genre, and don't worry about ratings. Movies made by filmmakers that worry about ratings are a waste of celluoid. FILM it, then worry.

And I'm serious about the jargon. The first time I watched BSG as a young adult I was surprised at how bad the dialogue was. It sounded like it was written by someone familiar with naval combat, which can be a good thing, until you realize that 2D naval strategies DO NOT apply in a 3D volume of space. So, at the very least, consult with someone that's played a game like Wing Commander or X-Wing. ;)

Sad to say but the opportunity for a true continuation has long since flown the coup. The entire point of that was to utlize the surviving cast and now, quite frankly, the story would have to pick up at least a generation or two AFTER the events in the original series. And that's just not going to work, even if GINO never had been made, this will just confuse contemporary audiences not familiar with the series; or rather who are only familiar with Moore's GINO version.

Best to go back and revitalize the story in Saga of a Starworld, get a new cast, and just start fresh; IMO.

But is that what Larson is going to do? Looking at the 1999 movie project art probably not. Which worries me because Stargate Atlantis has been there, done that. Worse, Moore and company pretty much raped the DeSanto material so it's probably best to just ignore it. If you don't what you'll get is sciffy DUNE, which tried too hard to emulate Lynch's DUNE and gave us such wonderful visuals as that ridiculous off-the-rack dress with butterfly's from an arts and craft store pinned on it. If that wasn't a sad attempt to make bland look chic by someone without taste then I don't know what was.

Of course that's just my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.

#end of line

[Kester Pelagius]

I also thought it was a "reimaging of the original".
It would be great it if was indeed a continuation.
I'd love to see the actors back from the original series in their original roles. :)

It would be nice. No denying that. And, yes, it would be sweet to see Dirk Benedict return as Starbuck. And Athene, too, if the actress is still around. IMO Athene was a character that they dropped the ball with. I'd love to see the actress return, not as Starbuck's wife or some background character, but, say, as the Commander of Galactica!

But the big obstacle is Moore's GINO series. To most people that is BSG. I fear a continuation would only confuse people. To make it work you'd need a recap of oBSG series events, and that might be costly, even assuming NBC Uniersal is on board and gives Larson access to film stock from the original series. Granted they could probably do something like they did with the CROW. Utilizing modern CGI techniques new footage could be wed with the old to create a intro that explains events "up to now".

That would probably be a must for a continuation movie project. But will NBC Universal shell out the money for it?

If they don't I may just. .

:cry:

[Eric Paddon]

Sad to say but the opportunity for a true continuation has long since flown the coup. The entire point of that was to utlize the surviving cast and now, quite frankly, the story would have to pick up at least a generation or two AFTER the events in the original series. And that's just not going to work, even if GINO never had been made, this will just confuse contemporary audiences not familiar with the series; or rather who are only familiar with Moore's GINO version.

Best to go back and revitalize the story in Saga of a Starworld, get a new cast, and just start fresh; IMO.

I hate to say this, but a "reimagined" story even when done faithfully to the source material would not interest me one iota. I would much prefer the "next generation" approach that IMO if well-written could do the necessary exposition in a minimal way so that knowledgable fans would understand what was being done and not feel short-changed, but newcomers would have no difficulty picking up on things (particularly if one did a well-made prologue). If we've reached a point where the only thing left is to start all over again, then that won't be something I can ever get enthused about. After the nightmare hell ordeal of the last five years with that thing we can't talk about, the only thing that can please me is something that wraps up the interrupted storyline of the original series and nothing less.

[Gemini1999]

I can appreciate and to some degree, agree with what Eric is saying. The idea of having the original story reimagined, rewritten, or retold doesn't really light my fire very much. I know that the original cast is getting on in years, but that didn't seem to stop cast members of Trek TOS to appear in films well past their prime, so I don't see why it should be any different for BSG TOS. The actors in BSG were in a show 10 years after Trek TOS was on TV and some were a bit younger than some Trek TOS cast members in the 1960's

I really would finally like to see a multi-generation version of BSG blending both the remaining original cast members and some new unknowns as well.

Looking forward, not all the way back seems like the best solution for fans of the original and potential fans of something new.

Bryan

[Eric Paddon]

I'll give you an example of how you lend closure to items from the original series in an unobtrusive way for newcomers in a continuation movie. Say you have Starbuck working as a veteran instructor to new pilots and at one point he says, "You know my father, who had a reputation for being a con man in his day, once told me....." and right then and there without a lot of unnecessary detail that could confuse newcomers, the hardcore Galactica fan knows right away that yes, Starbuck did find out that Chameleon was his father.

[Kester Pelagius]

I hate to say this, but a "reimagined" story even when done faithfully to the source material would not interest me one iota.

Agreed. I most certainly am NOT interested in seeing another "reimagined" Hollweird remake.

I would much prefer the "next generation" approach that IMO if well-written could do the necessary exposition in a minimal way so that knowledgable fans would understand what was being done and not feel short-changed, but newcomers would have no difficulty picking up on things (particularly if one did a well-made prologue).

I wouldn't mind seeing something like that either. But to do justice to BSG Larson would have to actually be in production right NOW. Not starting tomorrow or next month, but already working on this. BSG fandom ain't getting any younger, nor are the remaining actors.

If we've reached a point where the only thing left is to start all over again, then that won't be something I can ever get enthused about. <...> the only thing that can please me is something that wraps up the interrupted storyline of the original series and nothing less.

You could do that with a movie reboot. Heck there's no reason you couldn't do both a reboot and a continuation with the original cast. ;)

I can appreciate and to some degree, agree with what Eric is saying. The idea of having the original story reimagined, rewritten, or retold doesn't really light my fire very much. I know that the original cast is getting on in years, but that didn't seem to stop cast members of Trek TOS to appear in films well past their prime, so I don't see why it should be any different for BSG TOS.

Seems to me, and correct me if I am wrong, that Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica are about as similar as an apple is to an orange.

Aren't the narrative formats entirely different?

Granted both series were episodic but BSG is more of an arcing narrative reliant on continuity whereas ST is open ended narrative in which self-contained stories can be dropped in wily-nily at any point without care or concern for continuity, logic, or any semblance of a link to what came before.

The actors in BSG were in a show 10 years after Trek TOS was on TV and some were a bit younger than some Trek TOS cast members in the 1960's

And Nimoy was in TNG and is suppsedly appearing in the prequel movie. So what? The narrative structure allowed for continued story lines. Battlestar Galactica is like Babylon 5, it's narrative is structured. Go outside that structure and you get nonsense like G80.

I really would finally like to see a multi-generation version of BSG blending both the remaining original cast members and some new unknowns as well.

Continuation stories are possible. There's some great speculative BSG continuation fanfic out there. Assuming Larson can get the cast on board with a project, put together a decent story that doesn't involve Borg-Cylons or Atlantis, I'm all for it.

Looking forward, not all the way back seems like the best solution for fans of the original and potential fans of something new.

If "looking forward" and having a continuation utlizing the original cast is really what you want don't tell that to Hollywood. Because, to them, "looking forward" will mean a reboot with fresh faces and :shudders: a dumbed down re-imagined story line ala [insert any recent Hollwood movie remake abortion here].

Remember Hollywood doesn't look at narrative structure or plot or story all they care about is the bottom line; meaning money. To them BSG is just a "property" to exploit and a movie with, what to them, will appear to be a bunch of old washed up codgers as co-stars isn't what Hollywood's money machine bankrolls. They like movies with twenty-somethings passing themselves off as teens full of mindless amoral violence that they can sell to a tween demographic.

[Kester Pelagius]

I'll give you an example of how you lend closure to items from the original series in an unobtrusive way for newcomers in a continuation movie. Say you have Starbuck working as a veteran instructor to new pilots and at one point he says, "You know my father, who had a reputation for being a con man in his day, once told me....." and right then and there without a lot of unnecessary detail that could confuse newcomers, the hardcore Galactica fan knows right away that yes, Starbuck did find out that Chameleon was his father.

Okay everyone here knows what you're talking about. Heck we all know the actor playing Chameleon was Fred Astaire. (Some of us even know what he was famous for.) Everyone chuckled at that example. But I can't help but remember that GINO dropped the jargon, heck by the end of the series it looked like a straight up soap opera that had about as much to do with science fiction as mold growing on a pickle. Granted I only tuned in the last season because nothing else was on but WTF? Anyway my point being the writers didn't drop the jargon because Moore was a lazy hack or producer of lame cliche riddled mediocrity, they did this because the producers probably figured people today are less intellectually inclined than they were 20+ years ago and would get braid pain trying to decipher what a centon vs secton is.

So when you suggest that references just be put in as throw away dialogue it worries me. A reference without context has no meaning. The movie PEARL HARBOR had a LOT of throwaway dialogue like that. Put in, I would imagine, for much the same reason you suggest. The producers probably assumed it would appease audience members with some knowledge. But you know what it really did for me?

It pointed out the vacuousness of the movie. While everyone around me was enthralled by the mile-a-minute action and distracted by romance I was left to wonder what possessed me to pay good money to watch a bad Harlequin Action/Romance movie that lacked depth, substance, or intelligent dialogue. Was it just me?

Go that route and you may end up with someone writing forced dialogue like:

Starbuck: Remember how the colonies were destroyed by slimy gall-monging Cylons?

Apollo: Remember, I can never forget. I flew my father, Commander Adama, down to Caprica so he could survey the destruction for himself.

Starbuck (grimacing): Actually I was still at Cimtar watching the Galactica pull out while dodging Cylons at the time.

Apollo: It was terrible. The fires belching columns of gray-black smoke into the night sky. And the smell. .

Starbuck: This sort of talk is no way to start a leisuron, what say we head over to the Rising Star and. .

Apollo (laughing): I'm surprised you prefer that old rust bucket to the new chancery. . et al


P.S. Actually a true "hardcore Galactica fan" would know that Starbuck's father wasn't ever named in the novel (pg 154) and that he gave him his first set of cards, which set him on his life path of gamboling. ;)

P.S.S. I actually only know that bit of trivia because I just read it recently.

[Kester Pelagius]

And now I would like to contradict everything (or most of it) I posted above by saying. .

Fun borderline fanboi speculation aside: I really don't care if the movies are a reboot using an entirely new cast, continuation utilizing a mix of new and familiar faces, or 3D CGI Anime ala Final Fantasy or Beowulf so long as we get a decent movie (or series of movies) that capture the sense of wonder that attracted my younger self to the original Battlestar Galactica.

:salute:

[Eric Paddon]

Well we're going to have to differ because I don't see what's vaucous about just dropping in for a few seconds something that can please a hardcore Galactica fan without wasting so much time going off in too much detail on a tangent that would be confusing to a new audience trying to get hooked into the main story. I'm not saying you have to do this in every scene I just think its an example of how a continuation movie can end up serving the needs of *both* target audiences because if you give us a plotline that isn't willing to just answer a few questions fans will wonder about, then the hardcore Galactica fan comes away dissatisfied and thinks more about the "wasted effort" (much in the same way that every one of Richard Hatch's novels was a wasted effort) because no thought was given to just taking a second or two to acknowledge some of these things. In short there *is* a meaning that comes from a reference like that, because it's the sort of thing that has driven many a Galactica fanfic author's imagination and there's no harm in doing something like that to show that the history of what *went on in the show* is not forgotten (this indeed is the one thing that *every* official novel and comic book of recent vintage has managed to disregard completely which is what's made all of them lousy IMO).

[peter noble]

There's never going to be a continuation of the original Galactica. Period.

Sorry, Hollywood just doesn't work that way.

It's not like Sex And The City where the show had only been off air a couple of years or Star Trek which had been off the air for 10 but in the meantime had grown into a phenomenon after being a dog in the ratings on initial broadcast.

Even if this rumour has any legs, all indications are that it would be like the new Star Trek film, the original universe but with different actors playing the familiar roles.

[monolith21]

I understand that opinion, but none of the facts that we have to go on say that it will be a reimagining. A reboot sure. In no way does a reboot have to be a complete retelling.

I'm sorry man but I have to very respectfully disagree. There may never be a continuation, but there could be. Easily. If the powers that be can be convinced that a dollar or two can be made then it will get made. Hollywood does work that way.

Ten years ago I would have told you that Hollywood wouldn't mess with a classic like "Halloween". Too much baggage. Now days I would tell you something different...NOTHING is impossible when it comes to such things in Hollywood. Jaws, Blade Runner, Casablanca...they can all be remade. They can all have sequels made. They can all be rebooted, reimagined, continued, parodied...every last one of them.

If they can conceive of an audience for the story they'll make it...bottom line.

[Sarika]

Bravo, bravo.:salute:

[peter noble]

none of the facts that we have to go on say that it will be a reimagining.

I agree. It seems like they're talking a reboot and not reimagining.

[Eric Paddon]

I seem to have erred in using the term "reimagining" because I used the term in the context of expressing my dissatisfaction with the concept of what is properly a "reboot". Regardless of what is the proper term I have no interest in the concept and would find it unsatisfactory after all the years of waiting to see a true continuation.

[monolith21]

I agree totally. I'll see a reboot but I'll be settling. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't judge it pretty harshly right off the line. It just seems like we've all come to far as long time fans to appreciate anything but a continuation. Anything else will more than likely be another Gino.

I know where the lack of faith is coming from, and it is well earned. Hollywood lets a lot of us down rather consistently. All I'm saying is that it can happen. I'm not sure how many of you are Tron fans, but I've been following that "they're gonna make a sequel!" "It'll never happen ever" cycle since the early 90's. I had pretty much jumped on board with the whole "never" band wagon in the last few years after Tron 2.0 came out. Seemed like they had settled on a game. After all it has been nearly 30 years and Hollywood never does that. I thought it would have to be a remake.

Then low and behold I'm in a packed auditorium at Comic Con last year and they screen the test footage from their new project...TRON 2! They're making it and it'll have the original cast.

Now Ghostbusters 3 with the original cast plus some new younger Ghostbusters is coming out and its got tons of buzz behind it.

Oh and they are making a sequel to "The Last Starfighter" simply called "Starfighter". Written by the same people, directed by the same director, possibly being scored by the same composer, staring Lance Guest...

Those are all real projects in various stages of production right now.

[Kester Pelagius]

RE: Tron

http://cosmic-cinema.blogspot.com/2009/03/hollyweirdland-tron-20-and-clash-of.html

:)

RE: a continuation of the original Galactica

Sadly Peter's hit the mole on the head. Hollyweirdland is all about money. The idea of a continuation movie would probably strike suits as being a end story without much exploitability. That's why, IMO, it's probably better to do a reboot.

RE: "reboot"

Monolith has the right of it. A reboot doesn't have to totally ignore all that came before, as some seem to assume. A reboot need not necessarily be a re-imagining or re-envisioning; in the Hollywood sense of those terms. It would, however, be an updating.

Updating is unavoidable as any production is going to have to rely on modern VFX. It's doesn't have to but it would probably be best since any BSG movie would probably be in a lose-lose situation with VFX. Use models and green-screen you're going to get critics slamming the movie before it ever gets into a theatre for being clunky and old school. There'll always be those who complain about CGI, but if it's handled properly even the complainers will fall away. Of course this is all academic as Mr. Larson will likely do whatever is most cost effective.

If you look at stills of the cast from the STAR TREK reboot only the actor playing Spock may look the part but their costumes preserve that classic TOS look. So long as the new BSG movie preserves that TOS aesthetic does it really matter whether it's a reboot or set 20+ yahren later?

[Eric Paddon]

[FONT="Arial"]RE: Tron

[url]RE: "reboot"
Monolith has the right of it. A reboot doesn't have to totally ignore all that came before, as some seem to assume. A reboot need not necessarily be a re-imagining or re-envisioning; in the Hollywood sense of those terms. It would, however, be an updating.


You do not have to "reboot" in order to "update." "Update" simply means using the standards of FX technology while still keeping things grounded in the established universe of characters/storyline etc. But a "reboot" which means starting over from the beginning with new actors and telling the SAME story we've seen told before is another animal altogether, and it does not interest me. I do not want to see a story about the Colonies being betrayed and destroyed all over again with new actors, because that's "been there, done that" with the original Galactica pilot. If the storyline isn't continued to bring closure to the saga and plight of the characters we came to love and care about, then forget it, I won't see it nor will I support it.

[martok2112]

Reboot, reimagining, or continuation....as long as it's Battlestar Galactica, I'll support it.

[Kronus]

Reboot, reimagining, or continuation....as long as it's Battlestar Galactica, I'll support it.

I'm with Martok on this one... and I agree with Monolith as well that along with accepting whatever they decide for the original style, it will be accepted with gtreat critizism and appreciation for the effort

[Eric Paddon]

It strikes me as sad though how our perpetual endurance test as fans is to *never* see anything of a satisfactory nature come down our way in any kind of official project, whether its comic books, novels, or other projects. Maybe in the end though, that's why there's such a higher level of creativity that exists among so many people when it comes to Galactica storytelling because we see how much we've been burned and screwed by the powers that be on all levels, that we need to compensate for that.

What a pity that the standards for original Galactica novels to appear in print weren't the same as they were with Trek, where there are dozens of novels, none of which necessarily have to be told to conform to the confines of a single universe thus allowing for greater diversity in the total end product results.

[Athene]

It would be nice. No denying that. And, yes, it would be sweet to see Dirk Benedict return as Starbuck. And Athene, too, if the actress is still around. IMO Athene was a character that they dropped the ball with. I'd love to see the actress return, not as Starbuck's wife or some background character, but, say, as the Commander of Galactica!

But the big obstacle is Moore's GINO series. To most people that is BSG. I fear a continuation would only confuse people. To make it work you'd need a recap of oBSG series events, and that might be costly, even assuming NBC Universal is on board and gives Larson access to film stock from the original series. Granted they could probably do something like they did with the CROW. Utilizing modern CGI techniques new footage could be wed with the old to create a intro that explains events "up to now".

That would probably be a must for a continuation movie project. But will NBC Universal shell out the money for it?

If they don't I may just. .

:cry:

Good points.
*I meant to say reimagining. Please excuse the typo. That's what you get when you type when you're sleepy. LOL*
I think it would be great to see Dirk Benedict back and Maren Jensen.
I politely disagree with your comment that most people see GINO as BSG.
There are many, many people that see TOS BSG as BSG. There is a very, very strong loyal fan base. Me? I've been a fan for 30 years and am proud of it. :salute:Also, many people have bought the DVD collectors edition. Larson is still very much in the public eye.

[Athene]

You do not have to "reboot" in order to "update." "Update" simply means using the standards of FX technology while still keeping things grounded in the established universe of characters/storyline etc. But a "reboot" which means starting over from the beginning with new actors and telling the SAME story we've seen told before is another animal altogether, and it does not interest me. I do not want to see a story about the Colonies being betrayed and destroyed all over again with new actors, because that's "been there, done that" with the original Galactica pilot. If the storyline isn't continued to bring closure to the saga and plight of the characters we came to love and care about, then forget it, I won't see it nor will I support it.
Excellent points.
I too want to see a continuation. We could see...say a backdrop story...brief flashbacks and then on the screen "Our saga continues...There are those believe..." and onto to a continuation story.
I also want to see the original characters with the original actors and new actors in new roles. That for me would be the ideal TOS BSG movie.
I've been working on a movie script and am considered sending it to Glen Larson. *hope that doesn't sound arrogant* :blush:
Anybody got his address? ;)

[martok2112]

Let's tread carefully here, folks. This is starting to (edgily so) get into show bashing territory again.

Both fanbases are going to have their opinions on which fanbase is larger, and which show is indeed Battlestar Galactica. Being a member of both fanbases, I could offer some notions that would open a few eyes, and ruffle a few feathers.....but, for the sake of peacekeeping, I won't voice them.

Let's just focus on the notion that this big screen outing (if it should ever come to pass) will be closer in style to the original series. Comparisons or commentary to the new Battlestar Galactica are not necessary, and ill-advised.

I ask this as a poster, and as a moderator.

Respectfully,
Steve

[Eric Paddon]

Steve, if there's an open bashing going on of that other show, I must be missing it beacuse I don't see it. From my own standpoint, I think those of us who may or wish we could say something more specific about that other show are acting with as much restraint as could be expected.

[martok2112]

Indeed. Like I said...it was treading there....not actually on it. :)

And the restraint has been admirable to say the least. :)

[Kester Pelagius]

Steve,

For my part I apologize for the lack of clarity in my reference to 'GINO'. What I meant to say is- unfortunately- to a greater portion of the youth audience (read: younger than 30) the Sci-Fi series bearing the name Battlestar Galactica is likely what they are most familiar with. Thus, purely my opinion, any Larson project, continuation or otherwise, would likely confound and confuse them due to the subtle storyline differences

I mention the fact purely because any movie bearing the Battlestar Galactica name will likely draw crowds from the fan bases of both series, in addition to those who may never have watched either series, and thus I felt it advisable to consider what may be needed to make a movie that is watchable to those not familiar with the original narrative; much as was accomplished with Serenity.

Again apologies for my lack of clarity.

ADDENDUM: And as Bryan aptly points out, and is worth re-iterating here, this is all merely speculation. Let's keep it friendly.
#

Eric,

You make some good points however a "reboot" could "update" far more than FX. Considering the myriad stories about how the "suits" interfered with the narrative structure, characters, &tc I think there's a great opportunity to bring to life something that is far more than a watered down children's hour action/drama. All that was promised in the hype associated with that-which-shall-not-be-named could, finally, become an actuality.

I'm sorry you feel there's no way you can support such an endeavor, especially since the "closure" you seek could be provided as a jump into the "reboot". One possible thing we've not considered, at least I don't think anyone has suggested so far, is that the movie could provide not merely that sense of narrative continuity to bring the audience of TOS closure but it could end on an "and this is how it all began" note that leads us into that very "reboot" story. Ideally the reboot would be a new series, alas, given the current status of the property of that-which-shall-not-be-named this doesn't really seem likely.

Which means Mr. Larson will just have to do a TRILOGY. Sorry. It's just the way things seem to be panning out Mr. Larson. ;)

[Gemini1999]

I can appreciate the discussion regarding reboot/remake vs. continuation and I have my preferences, but in the end, I'm like Steve and I'd probably go see a film based on the original series on some level in whichever form it gets made.

I understand what Eric means in terms of a continuation-themed story and what it would mean because quite frankly, if the film project turns out to be a "one off" like what happened with Serenity, it would be nice if there was something to give to the fans that waited patiently for a new TOS-themed project. In terms of a reboot/remake, if it doesn't succeed at the box office, then it's just another BSG project with no resolution or hope of ever getting one. It's like having your home rebuilt only to have it destroyed by a natural disaster, which would leave you worse off than when you started.

I know that this "tennis match" discussion is just going to go on and on until there's some kind of an announcement giving a clue as to the direction of the project. Even after such an announcement, there will still be that discussion going, mostly because people still have their druthers even when they've been told they're not getting what they want.

That being said, I don't think that anyone here has one iota of a clue as to what to expect any more than anyone else does. If there's one thing that you can say about the studio exec mind, you'll never be able to get what you expect, or be able to expect what to get either.

Bryan

[martok2112]

Oh, no apologies necessary, Kelster, Eric, or anyone.

Like I said, it was just preventative caution that I made. :)

[monolith21]

Bashing on the other show is useless especially at this point. It is far too easy a trap to fall into for me sometimes due to how their fans have displayed themselves. I think its great that we have a system of "non bashing" though I would say they have no such ethical policy in place on their boards or in their public appearances. I do think it sets us above the muck when we take the high ground.

As far as reboots go I don't think they have to be a bad thing at all. The Star Trek movies were a reboot. They changed the ship, the uniforms, updated the look of the effects...rough start but ended up a great success!

I love to use the Halloween movies as an example because it started the same year as Battlestar and everything that is being said "Can't be done" by just about anyone these days regarding movies...they have done. In some cases twice. That franchise has "rebooted" twice in the last ten years successfully and three times since 1978. I don't care for every decision that those filmmakers have made, but I liked some of them. "H20" was a reboot that took things back to the original and continued it twenty years later after some very different decisions stylistically were made in the other sequels. It was a hit. Much more so than their later "reimagining" even.

It can be done. There is no logical difference. One can say that Sci Fi has a built in audience just as much as horror. With the right promotional push people will come to see a Battlestar continutation who may not even know of the original. They'll see it just because it looks cool.

Serenity made its money back even though it was just by a hair in the theatres. Since then it has made quite a little profit warranting two DVD releases and an early Blueray release. A heck of a lot more people across a number of generations are peripherally aware of something called "Battlestar Galactica" than were of "Firefly" when "Serenity" came out.

I know we have no idea if he is involved with this at all, but Tom DeSanto can convince them of this. I have ZERO doubt about it. He did it once and I'm sure that he can do it again. He's had a few home runs since then. Anyone who can say "I want to make a live action Transformers movie" and someone says "okay" can get Battlestar back on a screen with the right approach.

[Athene]

Let's tread carefully here, folks. This is starting to (edgily so) get into show bashing territory again.

Both fanbases are going to have their opinions on which fanbase is larger, and which show is indeed Battlestar Galactica. Being a member of both fanbases, I could offer some notions that would open a few eyes, and ruffle a few feathers.....but, for the sake of peacekeeping, I won't voice them.

Let's just focus on the notion that this big screen outing (if it should ever come to pass) will be closer in style to the original series. Comparisons or commentary to the new Battlestar Galactica are not necessary, and ill-advised.

I ask this as a poster, and as a moderator.

Respectfully,
Steve
Steve

For clarification I'm not bashing. I respect both fanbases.
I'm just voicing my honest opinion and doing it in a respectful and mature manner.
I wanted to make that clear.
I also agree that we should focus on this big screen outing being closer in style to the original series.

Anne

[Athene]

Steve, if there's an open bashing going on of that other show, I must be missing it beacuse I don't see it. From my own standpoint, I think those of us who may or wish we could say something more specific about that other show are acting with as much restraint as could be expected.

Eric

Well said!
What I'm seeing is a respectful and carefully worded discussion on this topic.

Anne

[Athene]

Bashing on the other show is useless especially at this point. It is far too easy a trap to fall into for me sometimes due to how their fans have displayed themselves. I think its great that we have a system of "non bashing" though I would say they have no such ethical policy in place on their boards or in their public appearances. I do think it sets us above the muck when we take the high ground.

As far as reboots go I don't think they have to be a bad thing at all. The Star Trek movies were a reboot. They changed the ship, the uniforms, updated the look of the effects...rough start but ended up a great success!

I love to use the Halloween movies as an example because it started the same year as Battlestar and everything that is being said "Can't be done" by just about anyone these days regarding movies...they have done. In some cases twice. That franchise has "rebooted" twice in the last ten years successfully and three times since 1978. I don't care for every decision that those filmmakers have made, but I liked some of them. "H20" was a reboot that took things back to the original and continued it twenty years later after some very different decisions stylistically were made in the other sequels. It was a hit. Much more so than their later "reimagining" even.

It can be done. There is no logical difference. One can say that Sci Fi has a built in audience just as much as horror. With the right promotional push people will come to see a Battlestar continutation who may not even know of the original. They'll see it just because it looks cool.

Serenity made its money back even though it was just by a hair in the theatres. Since then it has made quite a little profit warranting two DVD releases and an early Blueray release. A heck of a lot more people across a number of generations are peripherally aware of something called "Battlestar Galactica" than were of "Firefly" when "Serenity" came out.

I know we have no idea if he is involved with this at all, but Tom DeSanto can convince them of this. I have ZERO doubt about it. He did it once and I'm sure that he can do it again. He's had a few home runs since then. Anyone who can say "I want to make a live action Transformers movie" and someone says "okay" can get Battlestar back on a screen with the right approach.
I 100% agree with what you're saying.
I'm pleased to be a part of this TERRIFIC site where everyone is very respectful and takes time to listen to people's ideas and opinions and discuss them in a mature and friendly manner. :salute:

[dah66]

Seth Rogen as Baltar (maybe).

http://www.moviehole.net/200918389-rogen-in-talks-for-galactica-film

Update: UG! It's an April Fools Joke. I forgot what day it is. I should have learned years ago to stay offline on this day.

[martok2112]

Ok....just for clarification.....those hostile fans of the other show that folks think so ill of (and for good reason) largely only appear at the Skiffy board. Peoples' opinions of them are all based on their experiences (or hearsays) of folks at the Skiffy boards. So, since folks at Skiffy act all immature, and disrespectful, it must be assumed that ALL fans of the new Battlestar Galactica are just as immature and disrespectful....right? Wrong! (Supposedly the show is made by a**holes just for a**holes....that's the thinking, right?! Again...WRONG!)

At other sci-fi boards that I visit, like the official forum for the upcoming Star Trek film or boards which are conducive to sci-fi discussion--such as a board which supports Xbox Live--, as well as local comic shops, theaters, etc, fans of the other show are much more respectful of the original series fanbase. They don't have the penchant for hostility that folks do at the Skiffy board.

I really wish that folks would stop painting fans of the new series with such a broad brush, without the benefit of a broader view, as it is clear that NOT ALL folks of the new series do that either.

Again, spoken as one who enjoys both shows, for people who enjoy either/and/or.

Respectfully,
Steve

[Athene]

I really wish that folks would stop painting fans of the new series with such a broad brush, without the benefit of a broader view, as it is clear that NOT ALL folks of the new series do that either.
For clarification, I for one do not do that.
I DO see the broader picture. ;)
I know people who also like both shows and they've always been very respectful.
I'd like to see a Battlestar Galactica film coming to the big screen for fans of both series to enjoy. :)

[monolith21]

By no means do I think that ALL fans of that series act like the ones I have met both in person and on line that were extremely hostile. However I do think that this site holds its own to a higher standard. We don't even allow ourselves to vent about that show on forums dedicated to the original. I have yet to find a site with such standards that is dedicated to the new show.

I'm not sure if you remember this Steve, but you and I once had a pretty decent conversation about the new series over on battlestar galactica club. I'd count you among the fans of that show that I fully respect. I know that I have about as broad a view as one can get. I've seen every episode of the new series (both my brothers are fans and convinced me to watch with them) and absolutely literally met at least a hundred of its fans face to face.

As a matter of fact, I had come to respect those fans a bit more as of late. However when a room full of people at a public convention start bashing the original series led by the panelists and moderators and a few other similar situations start happening I know I question those fans integrity. If I were witness to a more positive sampling (and I am quite active in those circles where it would be possible) I would not hesitate to accept a respectful fan of that series. I just had coffee with one last Friday as a matter of fact.

I'd like to see them have a policy of "no bashing" on their sites but that is a different discussion I suppose.

I don't think its bashing to say that the way the original series has been treated as of late by fans and the entertainment industry alike is a bit crummy. It is what it is. I think this thread has been 99.9% respectful in trying to find a way to help turn that around. Turn a negative into a positive.

Even in our set up of the costuming group we've had to address hostility that we will undoubtedly encounter. The policy is much like the one around here...for the original, not against any other production. However we still had to discuss it. Putting our head in the sand would surely mean the wrong response when it happens. I can't wait for that to be a non issue!

Anyway back on topic for me...and on a related note even. I think Aaron Douglas would be a welcome addition to a continuation. He has always had a healthy respect for the original and even had a bit of problem with the concept of a re imagining. Might be a good olive branch.

[martok2112]

Points taken....and for the record, I wasn't singling anyone out. :) This is just one of those things that has gone on for years that usually gets my goat.

But, enough about all this.

Back to an original series themed Galactica big screen movie. :)

[monolith21]

So what do you think...Aaron Douglas in a continuation?

[martok2112]

I think many of the actors on the show would be a welcome addition to a continuation effort. A couple of them are known to be original series fans, or at least liked, or thought kindly of the original series.

Jamie Bamber and Aaron Douglas.

Respectfully, I really think we need to stop this aspect of the conversation (new series actors in an original series continuation/reboot) though, because I can predict what will happen, and I won't stand for it when it does. I know that many others of the powers that be here will not wish the conversation to take this turn, so being one of TPTB here, I'd rather just skid this part to a halt so there won't be any undue fuss. :)

Despite the respect that some folks here may have for many of the new series actors, there's still a lot of ill feelings left in the original series fans here who would want a BSG devoid of anything to do with the new Battlestar Galactica.

Before that though...(enter shameless self-promotion mode), if you would like to see my idea of how a story could work that melds TOS and TNS elements... go here:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13224

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I like a number of the GINO actors.

I wouldn't want to see any of them in a continuation project. Not a single one.

Same goes for the GINO designs.

There's too many other good actors and good concept designs without needing to mix them together. My greatest thanks is that Ron didn't do a continuation and went his own way. To be honest, I've not been too happy when he's tried to blur those lines.

Since so many of the GINO fans think the original series is "crap", I certainly don't see much motivation for mixing and matching.

So sorry, Aaron, Bamber, and the rest. Time to move on in this fan's opinion.


Russell

[martok2112]

Russell, my good friend, it has been too long. I hope you are well. :)

[Kester Pelagius]

Kelster says that those who seem to engage in a vitriolic bashing of any TV series are probably victims of emotional displacment anxiety, that it's probably just an expression of their need to create a sense of belonging and attachment, be it in response to harsh economical times or lack of spiritual centering which has manifested as self-destructive behaviour over which these poor souls likely have no control.

Kester, OTOH, says there's a fine line between constructive criticism and bashing and he tries not to step over it; unless he thinks there's a really interesting rant in the offing to post at Cosmic Cinema.

Kelster probably agrees. But he's reading the wonderful article Speculations: Battlestar Galactica (http://cosmic-cinema.blogspot.com/2009/04/speculations-battlestar-galactica.html) at the moment and is unavailable for comment.

:P:

[Kester Pelagius]

:erk:

Nevermind.

Guess the yokes on me.

:...:

[Gemini1999]

Kester -

Let's start another thread for this conversation, please?

Additionally, please remember that this site has a PG rating to keep it friendly for all ages, so keep the material and discussion in accordance with that restriction.

Sincerely,

Gemini1999
Colonial Fleets Moderator

[LordStarFyre]

I have to agree with Sandy on this one.

Nothing from GINO need be included in any Continuation, should it happen.

They had their chance, and they had their ending.

[LordStarFyre]

On a decidedly different note....

Gemini, this one is more toward ya'll.

*IF* Glen Larson (and Tom DeSanto?) do indeed have plans afoot to bring Battlestar back, would CF be considered a "Supporting" site for their efforts?

I know that may seem like a silly question, but I ask, in light of the previous posts.

[BST]

On a decidedly different note....

Gemini, this one is more toward ya'll.

*IF* Glen Larson (and Tom DeSanto?) do indeed have plans afoot to bring Battlestar back, would CF be considered a "Supporting" site for their efforts?

I know that may seem like a silly question, but I ask, in light of the previous posts.

LSF,

Although I'm not Gemini, I'll be happy to answer that one for you.... and for all, in case there is ANY question:



Short answer - YES!


More long-winded answer --

:down:



The Colonial Fleets Forum is a discussion group and archive dedicated to Battlestar Galactica, run by Battlestar Galactica fans, paid for by Battlestar Galactica fans, for the enjoyment of fellow Battlestar Galactica fans. Founded as a site focused on the original series and its revival, we continue our efforts toward a realization of that dream.




:salute:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Steve,

Good to hear from you again. For the most part, I'm well. I've been taking piano lessons and can actually play something that sounds like music now.

Also working on a few side projects, a couple of which may someday interest this crowd.

All my best,


Russell

[Gemini1999]

Also working on a few side projects, a couple of which may someday interest this crowd.


Yippee! :thumbsup: :D

[martok2112]

Russell, great to hear from you too.

Piano lessons. Very nice. I need to get back into my videos to teach me to play guitar and keyboard and bass....I've neglected them for far too long.

Looking forward to hearing more about your projects too. I'm still entertaining the idea of doing some kind of animated Galactica thingamabob...perhaps adapting one of my fanfics, or just staging a killer space battle. :)

Take care, my friend,
Steve

[Athene]

Looking forward to hearing more about your projects too. I'm still entertaining the idea of doing some kind of animated Galactica thingamabob...perhaps adapting one of my fanfics, or just staging a killer space battle. :)

I would love to see those. :)
I think an animated venture is a great idea! :salute:

[martok2112]

If I had a small team of animators (some to do characters, I can handle spaceships) it would be a far more ambitious project than I could accomplish alone.

I've only managed a couple of brief samples of what I would do with an animated Galactica:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6-k9td0gA4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPYaiT8JMmk

[BST]

If I had a small team of animators (some to do characters, I can handle spaceships) it would be a far more ambitious project than I could accomplish alone.

I've only managed a couple of brief samples of what I would do with an animated Galactica:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6-k9td0gA4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPYaiT8JMmk

Just tell everyone that the characters are invisible or they're wearing white clothes in the middle of a snowstorm.

:duck:

[martok2112]

Just tell everyone that the characters are invisible or they're wearing white clothes in the middle of a snowstorm.

:duck:


Hey, there's a thought.

(turns to the side) Prepare the Imperial Tomatoes!!!!

:D

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Yippee! :thumbsup: :D

Don't get too excited. It could suck.


Russell

[BST]

Hey, there's a thought.

(turns to the side) Prepare the Imperial Tomatoes!!!!

:D

:eek::eek:

RUNS.....

[martok2112]

:eek::eek:

RUNS.....

Commence primary vegetation! Fire at will. :D
MUA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

[BST]

Commence primary vegetation! Fire at will. :D
MUA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!


:yikes: :nervous:




:smart:


Hmmm....

whispers into megaphone --

FOOD FIGHT!!

*whistles*

:superholy

[martok2112]

Engarde!!!! :D

[jewels]

Thanks, BST for posting this: Originally Posted by Colonial Fleets FAQ

The Colonial Fleets Forum is a discussion group and archive dedicated to Battlestar Galactica, run by Battlestar Galactica fans, paid for by Battlestar Galactica fans, for the enjoyment of fellow Battlestar Galactica fans. Founded as a site focused on the original series and its revival, we continue our efforts toward a realization of that dream.
I knew there was some reason I kept hanging around here. :) Other than you all are a lot of fun, of course!
:D

[monolith21]

Anyone know what this IMDB link is all about?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1383701/

[dilbertman]

Anyone know what this IMDB link is all about?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1383701/

No but its said see more at IMDbPro, and I know someone with Pro. Will see if they can check tomorrow.

Jim:salute:

[peter noble]

IN DEVELOPMENT


Status: Pitch
Release Date: 2011
Project Notes: The studio is in negotiations with the creator regarding this movie.

Distributor: Universal Pictures more »

Filmmakers: Glen A. Larson - Writer (creator) more »

IN DEVELOPMENT
The status was last updated on 22 February 2009.
Since this project is categorized as being in development, the data is subject to change or could be removed completely.

All it is is that someone has taken the initial 'news' report and added it to IMDB's database.

And as we know, 2 +2 does not neccessarily add up to 4 on IMDB.

[monolith21]

Yeah, that is exactly why I threw it out here.

[Athene]

If I had a small team of animators (some to do characters, I can handle spaceships) it would be a far more ambitious project than I could accomplish alone.

I've only managed a couple of brief samples of what I would do with an animated Galactica:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6-k9td0gA4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPYaiT8JMmk
Those are awesome! :salute:

[Athene]

Thanks, BST for posting this:I knew there was some reason I kept hanging around here. :) Other than you all are a lot of fun, of course!
:D

THANK YOU :D
This is a really fun place to be. :salute:

[Dayton3]

I haven't posted here in awhile and I first saw mention of this in Time magazine, and it is mentioned in the Glen Larson wikipedia entry, but this is good news to me.

Especially if a very successful motion picture inspired a new series based on the original.

I haven't read the entire thread.

If it isn't too much trouble can anyone provide me with the Readers Digest version of what we've heard so far?

[monolith21]

No major news so far other than the original announcement. Some are skeptical, some are hopeful...almost all would love to see it happen.

[Athene]

No major news so far other than the original announcement. Some are skeptical, some are hopeful...almost all would love to see it happen.
I noticed that too.
I would love to see it happen. :salute:
I'm still working on that movie script.
Got some great ideas for a TOS BSG movie. ;)

[Kronus]

ooooo, you'll have to share Athene...have tah! :salute:

[Kester Pelagius]

As we're sharing today I'll throw my 2 cubits in. As part of the initial flurry of excitment I started a fanfic, Galactica Saga. (Go to the library forum if you're interested in reading it.) But I didn't get started on it until the interest stirred by the movie announcement had started to cool. By the time I began posting it no one seemed interested. I've basically left it on a cliff-hanger intended as lead in to part 2, which is mostly written but you know how we writers get when no one pays attention to us. ;)

[jewels]

Don't get too excited. It could suck.


Russell
Doubtful. It's more likely to be impressive.

Jewels

[Athene]

ooooo, you'll have to share Athene...have tah! :salute:
I certainly will. :D :salute:

[Athene]

Doubtful. It's more likely to be impressive.

Jewels
I like the sound of that. :D

[Athene]

As we're sharing today I'll throw my 2 cubits in. As part of the initial flurry of excitment I started a fanfic, Galactica Saga. (Go to the library forum if you're interested in reading it.) But I didn't get started on it until the interest stirred by the movie announcement had started to cool. By the time I began posting it no one seemed interested. I've basically left it on a cliff-hanger intended as lead in to part 2, which is mostly written but you know how we writers get when no one pays attention to us. ;)
I've been reading your story and really enjoy it. :)
I love cliff hangers! ;)

[ernie90125]

http://www.moviehole.net/200919446-exclusive-hatch-on-galactica-movie

[peter noble]

Hatch is just commenting on the initial report from a few months back.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Kester Pelagius]

I've been reading your story and really enjoy it. :)
I love cliff hangers! ;)

Part 2 is mostly finished. As is a follow-up story. But everytime I sit down to polish them off I find myself wanting to re-edit everything into a novella.

I guess I should just finish part 2 and post it, eh?

[Athene]

Part 2 is mostly finished. As is a follow-up story. But everytime I sit down to polish them off I find myself wanting to re-edit everything into a novella.

I guess I should just finish part 2 and post it, eh?
Looking forward to reading that! :salute:

[Aussie Warrior]

just reading what Mr Hatch said prehaps he is right about taking it down the Star Trek route because we know the Galactica had been taking on the Cylons for ages so there is no shortage of stories actually mentioned in the episodes, throw in the Pegasus and the other Battlestars and you got a story

Except the original cast would not have their roles which would be bad to most people, i just wish they stop teasing fans it is almost becoming like Duke Nukem Forever (it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's gone)

[monolith21]

More talk today (some of which got my Irish up a bit...) about a possible film.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42034

[dilbertman]

More talk today (some of which got my Irish up a bit...) about a possible film.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42034

Same here!

Jim:wtf:

[monolith21]

Hit 'em where it counts! Vote on it! We're already winning.
http://tvseriesfinale.com/articles/battlestar-galactica-new-movie-in-the-works-is-it-what-fans-want/

[dilbertman]

Voted.

Jim

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I found it interesting that less than a year later, the "smash success" is already being regarded as a show with low-ratings. Guess they aren't counting the online posters they hired to pimp the show.

If it hasn't been posted elsewhere, the link to the original article is here:

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/bryan-singer-boards-battlestar-galactica-for-universal

If they really are that short of ideas, ... they can always hire me as one of the writers.

At least this news comes from someone other than Larson.

All my best,



Russell

[ernie90125]

Just spotted this too :

http://scifiwire.com/2009/08/rumor-is-bryan-singer-att.php

[dah66]

http://www.moviehole.net/200920279-singer-returns-to-galactica

[KJ]

Excellent news guys!

I'm so glad i saw Singer at the London premiere of Superman Returns back in 2006, and yes while we briefly talked about Superman, i did say i'm sorry your BSG continuation didn't pan out etc and went on about how i'd love to see him and DeSanto do a movie version if at all possible.

I see that hoping for something after seeing the man, isn't such a bad thing afterall! *Big grin appears on face*

While DeSanto may have the vision and passionate drive, Bryan Singer brings in the power and name value though. DeSanto and co did things to bring Transformers to the screen, but with TF2 being butchered by Michael Bay, i'm sure DeSanto would jump at the chance to join Singer in reviving BSG for the big screen and with Singer's common sense and gifted directing style. I'm sure BSG would finally be brought some big screen justice finally.

Tom DeSanto's been a great ambassador for keeping any possible BSG revival alive as a hollywood movie producer. With his communication with the fanbase every now and then. But see what happens when a powerful mover and shaker like film director Bryan Singer steps into the game once more? THINGS ARE STARTING TO HAPPEN!!! Or so we all hope (*fingers crossed*).

Far as the links you gentlemen put up go, Seems the RDM supporters can't get it though, it was always Larson's baby he created it (with Leslie Stevens), envisioned it, wrote it etc its his not RDM's. I'm not going on a rant, cos we've been there and done that etc. But lets set the record straight. revivals of the original we're planned for years, until remakes became a current and ongoing fad (sad fact). So the previous TV incarnation was a vastly re-tooled version based on the classic series.

So what..?

Basically all this news means, we're now moving back to what the property should've been from the get go. And this time we getting, or should be getting a big screen treatment! With creator in tow (perhaps as a consultant). People will finally get to see what BSG can do with a major director in the wings.

Listen haters..(on sciwire)

Bryan Singer's accompliments as a director speaks volumes. What happened to the X-Men franchise when Ratner took over huh? Exactly. And before you bring up Superman Returns as an example of possible failure?, Thats really Warner Brothers fault for not cashing in on a sequel when they should've.

Singer's a bankable name, thats why RDM/NBSG fans are all up in arms. Cos their low-rating series isn't considered for big budget screen follow up, it can't cos Larson ain't going there. and with Singer's name in the picture, it seems the route of Larson wanting to sell off the movie rights to BSG, to the highest bidder are also becoming something of urban legends and myth as well.

Hope Singer make an decision soon enough!

KJ

P.S. Hope i, can get on with an art career soon enough too. I'd love to be a storyboard artist for Singer's future BSG movie.

But i think we'd all await in glorious anticipation of what Guy Dyas could possibly do once more sketching out BSG designs for Bryan's BSG.

[oldwardaggit]

I voted also.

OWD

[Kronus]

Cast my votes and comments too...

[Gemini1999]

I also voted - I'll post comments later. It's good news that it appears that there's some scuttlebutt about this project. I was beginning to wonder with the long time lag from when this thread started.


Moderator note: Just a bit of caution - Let's not have the topic become a TNS vs. TOS discussion. Stay focused on the film discuccion.

Bryan

[peter noble]

It's in Variety, which is serious, serious.

http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmemo/2009/08/singer-back-to-scifi.html

This thing's happening.

[KJ]

Just voted! (wondered what you guys were on about?)

Its up to 62 percent now! :salute::)

Be reading to see if any new news comes in. But years after the Hatch and Singer/DeSanto previous revival attempts nearly 10 years ago. Lets hope the third time's a charm as they say!

The original premise was so great, that its still being debated for a multi-million dollar film now as of today. So much for classic BSG being thought of as a flop or failure eh? How many failures of the 70's get fought over for modern day revivals.

KJ

[KJ]

I hope the news of it being a reimagination changes though?

Larson doesn't want to do anything like RDM's BG, cos if this isn't for them then who's this for exactly. Another audience that has to warm up to the BG universe yet again perhaps? Or us and those that wanted the REAL BG to return!

Singer's got a tough road ahead though. Many still aren't going to forgive him just yet over the Superman Returns issue. Yet any smart fanboy knows Warner seriously goofed up on that one. Realistically i know any new movie of BG won't be a retread of the 70's series exactly nor should it. But at the same time will Singer honor the Larson classic original, in much the same way he tried in vain to honor Richard Donner's Superman films with SR, but couldn't please the majority?!

Time will tell won't it!

KJ

[peter noble]

Film rights now with Universal.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i7fa7a60767d78439fd3baf5904a8e717

[larocque6689]

I love how two of the four DeSanto hyperlinks in the Hitfix piece ultimately trace back to me (pats myself on the back).

Oh, I love how Richard Hatch (in this interview) treats TNS as if it was cancelled too soon... "the show always ends too soon. There were so many more stories to tell. Networks don't really, I think, understand Sci-Fi." What a hoot!

http://www.moviehole.net/200919617-richard-hatch

I am delighted also that it no longer seems that the future of the franchise hinges on what Glen Larson does with it. Let Bryan Singer have complete freedom to do with it as he sees fit.

You know, I had almost given up on interesting news with this franchise, but I don't think it will ever die.

[peter noble]

I had almost given up on interesting news with this franchise, but I don't think it will ever die.

It's the gift that keeps on giving!

I await the Stallionic review.

[BST]

I hope the news of it being a reimagination changes though?

Larson doesn't want to do anything like RDM's BG, cos if this isn't for them then who's this for exactly. Another audience that has to warm up to the BG universe yet again perhaps? Or us and those that wanted the REAL BG to return!

Singer's got a tough road ahead though. Many still aren't going to forgive him just yet over the Superman Returns issue. Yet any smart fanboy knows Warner seriously goofed up on that one. Realistically i know any new movie of BG won't be a retread of the 70's series exactly nor should it. But at the same time will Singer honor the Larson classic original, in much the same way he tried in vain to honor Richard Donner's Superman films with SR, but couldn't please the majority?!

Time will tell won't it!

KJ


I really don't understand the difficulty in doing a continuation of sorts. If they don't want to use any of the original series characters then, do a 5 minute prologue with flashbacks to the original, telling the story of the 1000 yahren war and destruction of the Colonies, in a similar fashion that was used on the first Transformers movie.

Then, pick up the story 33 years later......

[Reaper]

It makes no sense to do another reimagining. The Moore Series just ended. If they aren't going to go COntinuation, then we are basically looking at wasted money here.

Realisticly, Moore Fans have already started talking down the movie as "Why Bother" and This coul;d very well be the Last straw for Fans of the Original Waiting 30 years for a continuation. Pulling a Star Trek and Restarting the Idea with all new people playing the characters we have loved for 30 years will more then likely alienate EVERYONE.

It's not Like Star Trek that hasn't seen a Good movie or Series in a while. BSG isn't a dead property. You still have 2 very passionate groups, with crossover between the two, defending their Shows. Injecting a 3rd is asking for trouble.

I have faith in Desanto and Singer sticking to a Continuation.

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Guys, one note in the article. If Singer is getting a 10 million salary to direct, then this film is planned to be BIG!!! By sheer visual appeal, it could knock GINO into the gutter, although truth be told, I strongly suspect that part of the motivation for this is that Universal hopes to bring back in a lot of what should have been their core fans and sell the GINO DVD sets. Unless Singer and DeSanto can blast one into outer space, Universal still looks to make most of its money via GINO DVD sales.

Given that Ron and company ended GINO with the rough concept that it and the original could be tied together in some freakish repeating reality loop, some execs are likely looking at this as a chance to increase sales of both DVD sets. If this premise is correct, I'd bet there are a few GINO links tossed in along the way, whether anyone in the production crew wants them or not.

Either way, this is news I really didn't expect and I now think its a realistic possibility that it could come to pass.

... but it still won't be enough to get me to purchase any GINO DVDs and place them next to my Galactica and Galactica 1980 DVD sets.

All my best,


Russell

[monolith21]

Wait...Variety? I believe we've had our official announcement ladies and gentlemen.

I think we're all too shocked to realize what just happened! Don't get me wrong, I won't breathe right until principal photography has wrapped!

[BST]

I will admit to being the eternal optimist when it comes to this show and, to that extent, I think that this show will be a visual masterpiece with a musical score to match.

I look for it to be a blend of Larson's and Moore's versions but, with a decided tilt toward the lighter side. I'm hopeful that it will be more along the lines of a next-gen continuation since I'm just not sure how many times sci-fi audiences are willing to push the reset button with this franchise.

[oldwardaggit]

Well to be honest, I voted for the movie but if they just do another reboot that doesn't let the original exist in the same universe some how like Trek did, well I'll go see it just because it's suppose to stay more true to the original ideas but if I'm being honest, Well I'll just say it. Another reboot with all new actors basically going through the same thing the original ones did just with a big screen updated budget, is going to suck in my book no mater how good it is.

And I only say that as an original fan but it would just be nice to get a little more of a pay off then having the guys that once were going to bring this back right, finally get the chance but this time as another reboot.

I think a kick ass movie idea would be to use a bit of Hatch's Idea about the cylons evolving but have it set something like 300 years in the future. That way you could have your new cast and it would explain why the cylons were so slow and clunky in the original.

Then anytime some one talks about how the original was cheesy, we could say Hey it was 300 years in the past. it was bound to be cheesy. Just look at how we were in the 70's. gee, what a way to make a point lol.

Shawn

[monolith21]

I'm not too worried about it being a complete reboot. Notice that only comes from the sites that put a negative spin on this. The people involved have always remained true to a continuation.

I could be wrong. They could go that route but I think if they're going to focus on a younger generation it'll still be in universe.

[dilbertman]

Still would like to know where Tom fits in to all this.

Jim:?:

[monolith21]

Surely with Singer on board DeSanto isn't far behind?

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I didn't read that it was a reboot. If they did another reboot that led to a good series of films or possibly another television series, I'd be a happy enough camper. My big problem with GINO wasn't that it was a change from the original premise but that, in my opinion, it was just a horribly written series. It was a great example of how you can throw tremendous resources into a hole and still come up with sludge.

I suspect the flak this news is getting from the GINO crowd is that they realize that GINO's only strength is that it was new and more flashy. Ironically, the arguements they've thrown out for the past 5 years, about different interpretations being a good thing, are apparently going to be put to the test. Faced with that, the true hypocritcal nature of their arguements are being exposed. Its funny in a way but I'd again remind everyone that it doesn't matter what the critics say.

Just as Ron did what he wanted, Singer and DeSanto are going to do what they want. I suspect the online crowd will have less influence this time than they did with Ron and that was minimal. Universal will back their latest creation because that's where they see the money. If they opt to pay people to act as fans again, we'll see another slew of unknowns coming out of the woodwork.

Hopefully, this time, the product will be better and the fanbase will act a bit more respectful towards each other.

... and hopefully Ron Moore won't be anywhere near this effort.

All my best,


Russell

[peter noble]

Just as Ron did what he wanted, Singer and DeSanto are going to do what they want.

That's Singer and Larson. As far as know, DeSanto isn't in the frame.

Best,

Peter

[Kronus]

OMGs I just had a huge BSG gazim! *eyes rolling back*

Ahhh man! This is SOOOOOOOO awesome! I have to have my warrior uniform ready for this! Those of you in the Blackstar Squadron...if you have not been motivated to get your uniform done, this should put you in OVERDRIVE!

We must all go to these sites and vote and make comments...(if you have not done so already)

WOOOO HOOOO! Now where are my Fumarellos and that case of our finest ambrosia, I want to celebrate! And poo poo on you pessimists...even if this should tank (the gods forbid) it doesn't change the fact that I am ecstatic about this right now.

[JLHurley]

From NEWSARAMA:

"And speaking of Bryan Singer, Variety also reported Thursday that Universal has tabbed him to direct and produce a Battlestar Galactica big-screen feature.

The studio is indicating the film will be a "complete reimagination" and not a continuation of the SyFy Channel television series and it is not clear whether the series' executive producer Ronald Moore will be involved in the project.

Glen Larson will produce."


http://www.newsarama.com/film/090814-wolverine-sequel.html

[JLHurley]

And here's a link to the Variety article:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007275.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

This is exciting news--and I'm betting Moore will have NOTHING to do with this project. I'm guessing Singer and Larson will be retelling (and recasting) the original story more true to the original series. I sure hope Stu Phillips provides the music. He was well over 50% of what made BG so great, IMO.

[Charybdis]

One thing I do'nt like about this is that it says once again that it will be a "complete reimagining." As if we haven't had enough reimaginings before!!!

But according to what almost came before, the Singer/DeSanto project was a whole lot closer to the original. Let's hope.

[spcglider]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I came back in like the prodigal son to see what the skinny was on this new film rumor.

So... nice to see everybody back at Fleets. Good to have a home to come back to!

-Gordon

[KJ]

Agreed!

Nice to see you around too Spcglider.

We all have something in common when news like this breaks!

Indeed.

Like i said though, hope the 'third time's a charm'. And this is really happening down the road at some time. Unlike the 2001 TV pilot, Fox ain't gonna tap Singer on the shoulder this time to go prep a movie instead.

THIS IS THE FRICKKIN "MOVIE" this time!

:salute:

KJ

[jewels]

I hope Tom's involved. It would satisfy my sense of justice if he got a second chance, along with Bryan and Glen.

I don't mind if they retell the original pilot story. I do want the original ship designs (at least exteriors), I want real heroes (the originals did have flaws—they just weren't so dysfunctional that the dysfunction was the central story. I want a story with faith and hope, honor and the self-sacrifice of doing the right thing.

[Reaper]

Ahhh man! This is SOOOOOOOO awesome! I have to have my warrior uniform ready for this! Those of you in the Blackstar Squadron...if you have not been motivated to get your uniform done, this should put you in OVERDRIVE!

We must all go to these sites and vote and make comments...(if you have not done so already)


I'm with you there! I'm going to have my Warrior's Costume and my girl's Bridghe officer costume done in time to support the movies!

Most definately!!!

[Tibbetts]

I'm looking forward to this movie. I hope it is really made this time. :D


-Tibbetts

[Eric Paddon]

I'll repeat myself again regarding what I said some months ago. If this comes off and its just a remake of the pilot "done right" then forget it. I'm not interested in anything other than closure to the original *STORYLINE* of the original series because telling the same old story again is "been there, done that" for me. My patience as a Galactica fan all these decades stemmed from a desire to the see the storyline concluded, and if that's left hanging for good then there's nothing for me to enjoy even if the approach is better that that other entity.

[jjrakman]

Thought some of you might enjoy this...

http://leegoldberg.typepad.com/a_writers_life/2009/08/who-is-the-clueless-moron-now-.html

[michaelfaries]

Hey fellow Warriors,

It's ironic, as I said back in 2003 as I parted from full-time BSG webmastering and communications works, that the only thing that would draw me back in would be a production by Tom (or Bryan/Tom), Richard and/or Glen.

Looks like we have Glen and Bryan at the point. And it's both green-lit and going into pre-production. $10m US doesn't get paid to an A-list Hollywood director for a simple pitch; this baby is really rolling forward! :D

I think it's obvious that "Star Trek" (2009) was the catalyst for this new production endeavor. Except we're going to see a far greater reimagining of the original BSG series. New actors, bigger "better" action, etc.

Except I honestly believe we're going to see lasers, not bullets. "Felgercarb!" and "Frack!" Fumarellos, microns, and yahren. Renewed focus on the ancient astronauts and mythological lore. "Life here began out there..."

All the good stuff, repackaged into a new epic (EPIC!) motion picture. And hopefully planned as a true saga with a handful of productions.

And damn it all, I want a continuation. I want Richard, Dirk, Anne, Laurette, Jack, Herb... ALL of the actors able/willing to return. I doubt it, though. Even for Dirk, with whom Glen has a special place in his heart. Knowing Bryan from the previous production effort, he's going to be hellbent to make this HIS production. That means starting over. Same with Glen.

Where's Tom? :salute:

As I've discussed with a few folks, not everyone tosses their name out there. Some prefer to wait until the contracts are signed. Some understand the power plays of Hollywood and stay out of the limelight (although they're doing the lion's share of the heavy lifting). Tom was involved in both "Transformers" movies, yet wasn't at the forefront of the interviews, nor making vocal statements. Michael Bay (like Bryan) was the "brand" that is being spotlighted, even over Steven Spielberg's direct involvement in the production. I wish Tom would push harder, but that's his choice. (I'm ever curious what WME's (William Morris Endeavor's) instructions are in that regard...)

Tom - We know you used to read CF. And we have the highest regard for you. Hope you can leverage the site if you're on the production. We want to hear from you directly.

I still remember Bryan sanctioning the various "Superman Returns" websites to cover aspects on that production. Brilliant stuff, great marketing, fantastic content. One HOPES we'll see that again. After all, that's what many of us did to put BSG back on the radar with Richard's efforts all those yahren ago. :)

I'm soooo looking forward to what develops here. Continuation or complete reimagining (can't believe I'm saying that), we have our last chance, imho, to see something of the BSG TOS universe in action again. What a GREAT time for BSG!!

Michael
:colonial:

[michaelfaries]

Thought some of you might enjoy this...

http://leegoldberg.typepad.com/a_writers_life/2009/08/who-is-the-clueless-moron-now-.html

I HAD to respond. :salute:

[peter noble]

Chris Pappaas has this to say at Resin Illuminati:

My sources say that the production of this project is iffy at best. Singer was attached to the project in hopes to get approval from the suits later.

The guy in charge of the project thinks it will most likely never fly, saying that the #1 at Universal will never approve a Galactica movie since everybody at Universal thinks Galactica was a two bit show on the Sci-Fi Channel and it has little to no fanbase compared to properties like Star Trek or Star Wars, which according to the Universal source, are already very problematic to get approved. He added UCS will never put up the $150 million budget for this, since "Battlestar Galactica" is a horrible name for a movie.

Even so, multiple scripts will be written and polished. It will neither be original series, nor new series, nor the DeSanto/Singer old version. They’ll get a new writer and new storyline.

Disparaging things were said about DeSanto along the way, like that he was whiney and that Moore never stole his version or ideas. He added that DeSanto was paid by Studios USA to develop BSG for Fox, i.e., anything he came up with was bought and paid for.

Regarding the Studios USA Galactica project, it was said that when Singer left to do X2, they thought DeSanto didn’t have enough weight to carry something that big, i.e., a $100 million back-door pilot.

Studios USA then took their property and ideas and tried selling it to other studios none of which were interested in making something this big with a minor director like DeSanto, so Studios USA ended up with a minor broadcasting company (Sci-Fi Channel) who was willing to take a huge leap in doing this backdoor pilot with a $10 million budget, but wanted their main guy David Eick on it. Eick didn’t want to work with DeSanto either since he had no experience in making good sci-fi television and was basically a movie director used to working with big movie budgets instead of the much smaller Sci-Fi Channel TV budget. He feared it would get out of hand, especially later going into series, and got Ron Moore to join him since he had a good reputation from doing Star Trek TNG, which was a decent sci-fi series made within a tight budget.

DeSanto was pissed that they booted him and has been ever since. It was said that DeSanto would now probably try like hell to join Singer on this one, but that would only make things worse in never getting this movie done properly.

Glen Larson? The moniker "senile old fool" was applied and it was said that he has now sold the BG name to Universal and he was only mentioned in earlier news bulletins because contractually he needed to be mentioned. Larson won’t have ANYTHING to do with this new movie, simple because Universal will never let him write a single line for a script or even assist on producing it, other than a name credit similar to the one on the new series.

Chris

http://www.resinilluminati.com/showthread.php?p=137234#post137234

[jjrakman]

Oh dear god.

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/08/14/bryan-singer-justin-timberlake-battlestar-galactica/

[monolith21]

I'm sure we'll hear many more rumors like that before this thing goes into production. Many mud balls will be thrown by the naysayers. Chins up people this is good news!

[KJ]

Mr Faries!!! :salute:

You sound so much like i use to with that postive statement about wanting a BSG movie! Welcome back, you've been sorely missed aorund here the most, same goes for you Jjrakman my good man! Maybe Raymar3rd around the corner too...

So this thumbs out for him just in case :thumbsup:

Nice to know the old gang came out when news like this breaks.

Far as what Chris Pappass had to say about what the studio thinking?

Bun them!

Feh.... Nice to know studio execs will never get it, EVER, studios never want to give their audiences what they truly want. But of course some dickhead think he knows what i'm into rather than ask? Yeah and i suppose simply cos Star Wars and Star Trek were successful productions in their own right, that they alone represent "ALL OF" science fiction by themselves, right?!

(Sarcastic) Riiiiiiiiightttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

And what does that studio guy think of names like 'Macross/Robotech', 'Neon Genesis Evangelion', 'Battle Angel', and a ton of other names of productions quite possibly on the way in the next 5 or 6 years to come!

Hmmm. So unless your Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg, or Francis Ford Coppola. You get treated like the late Rodney Dangerfield i.e. No Respect in hollywood. Yeah i guess making a movie is so easy huh. And basically before hand, if DeSanto ideas were bought and paid for, then did Ronald D Moore not retool the "Pre-existing" ideas off of somebody himself and not come up with his actual own concepts for 4 years.

Hence stolen or plagiarized off of another writer's/author's work! (duh!!!)

* Female President of the Colonies/12 tribes

* Turmoil in the fleet

* Cylon/Human Hybrids

* Updated Vipers

Hmmm, remember 2001's Singer/DeSanto beautiful incarnation planning all that out in its concepts and having all of that worked out, long before Sci-Fi's abomination *cough* er.. TV series attempt!

If DeSanto ideas were bought and paid for, then you still blatantly own him 'Paychecks' (With US dollar 'interest' Pre-Credit Crunch) for 4 seasons worth of altered/mutilated and switched around ideas then!

I could go on. Anyways nice seeing you back here Michael, god bless you!

KJ

P.S.

Lee Goldberg hasn't changed has he? Still got a face most people would slap the *crap* out of!

:rotf:

[Creep]

This new Singer's movie is probably be even more gayer than RDM's BSG, because Singer is gay and he makes gay movies.

Just take his last movie "Valkyrie" (2008) half of the movie was closeups on Tom Cruise's ass

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh218/butterkhan/vlcsnap-13438.png

[KJ]

What's gayer still, is that you took the time to post a picture to make your point. Sometimes just stating your point is enough, going so far to show it kinda puts to bed the question of why your obsessing over the word gay so much, Bryan's sexuality and Tom Cruise's ass etc.

Rolls eyes!

You've certainly got the right username haven't you!

KJ

[BST]

This new Singer's movie is probably be even more gayer than RDM's BSG, because Singer is gay and he makes gay movies.

Just take his last movie "Valkyrie" (2008) half of the movie was closeups on Tom Cruise's ass



Whether you appreciate his work or not, Bryan Singer is a well-respected director in the film industry and on this website.

Coincident with the open-minded attributes employed by many of our members, his "preference" makes no difference.

[Gemini1999]

Whether you appreciate his work or not, Bryan Singer is a well-respected director in the film industry and on this website.

Coincident with the open-minded attributes employed by many of our members, his "preference" makes no difference.

Pete -

Thanks for that - it was very well worded. I'd like to add a few of my own as well. As somone that is a member of the gay community, I find the description of Bryan Singer's work as "gay". I've seen every one of his movies. I've like some and others not so much, but I didn't know of Singer's sexuality until well after I've seen most of them.

That being said, he is indeed very talented and I've never seen his films to be works that were characterized in any way as have just been described by Creep.

Bryan

[monolith21]

I don't give a frack who he's attracted to. His movies are far more hit than miss. The Usual Suspects...X-Men and the AMAZING X-Men 2...Superman Returns (yeah, I dig it a lot)...Apt Pupil...and of course House which is a great show!

Wait does this mean a lot of naysaying creeps are going to show up now to give us crap? This place has been so peaceful...lol.

[BST]

I don't give a frack who he's attracted to. His movies are far more hit than miss. The Usual Suspects...X-Men and the AMAZING X-Men 2...Superman Returns (yeah, I dig it a lot)...Apt Pupil...and of course House which is a great show!

Wait does this mean a lot of naysaying creeps are going to show up now to give us crap? This place has been so peaceful...lol.


Monolith,

Hold your head high. Don't give in to the dark side. ;)


Don't worry about the naysayers. The entire staff, here, has been through the fires of hell with regards to another show about a battlestar. There's not a whole lot that we haven't seen .... or heard .... or said.

;)

As with time and gas, this too, will pass.

:D

[jjrakman]

Hey, I liked Valkyrie!

[monolith21]

Thanks for that BST!!! I will take that advice to heart. I think I will watch Valkyrie tonight in celebration of this great news!!!

[michaelfaries]

Thanks for that BST!!! I will take that advice to heart. I think I will watch Valkyrie tonight in celebration of this great news!!!

I'll second that. Great idea!

Btw, I've noticed a lot of anti-gay statements on AICN... and now it's "creep"ing over here. Who cares if Bryan is homosexual? Who cares if we see additional derriere shots in a movie? Solid storytelling and filmmaking rules the day. "Valkyrie" did deliver.

Michael
:colonial:

P.S. Hey KJ!! :salute:

[dilbertman]

Hey fellow Warriors,

It's ironic, as I said back in 2003 as I parted from full-time BSG webmastering and communications works, that the only thing that would draw me back in would be a production by Tom (or Bryan/Tom), Richard and/or Glen.

Michael
:colonial:

Hey Michael

I hear Richard is looking for a new Webmaster for all his sites. Maybe you can get your old job back.

Jim;):rolleyes::rotf:

[jewels]

Whether you appreciate his work or not, Bryan Singer is a well-respected director in the film industry and on this website.

Coincident with the open-minded attributes employed by many of our members, his "preference" makes no difference.
Thank you for saying that so clearly and well. I get too peeved when I see someone say something so derogatory about someone else. Singer is indeed a good and talented director, just as Ian McKellen is an excellent and talented actor. Their preference makes no difference in the skills that flicker across the big screen. I'd list others but it is late, I'm tired.

I've never been a "bun" sort of woman, but I think Tom Cruise grew buns (thinking of the Risky Business days):LOL:, if that wasn't a second unit shot of someone else.

[jewels]

Hey fellow Warriors,

It's ironic, as I said back in 2003 as I parted from full-time BSG webmastering and communications works, that the only thing that would draw me back in would be a production by Tom (or Bryan/Tom), Richard and/or Glen.

Looks like we have Glen and Bryan at the point. And it's both green-lit and going into pre-production. $10m US doesn't get paid to an A-list Hollywood director for a simple pitch; this baby is really rolling forward! :D

I think it's obvious that "Star Trek" (2009) was the catalyst for this new production endeavor. Except we're going to see a far greater reimagining of the original BSG series. New actors, bigger "better" action, etc.

Except I honestly believe we're going to see lasers, not bullets. "Felgercarb!" and "Frack!" Fumarellos, microns, and yahren. Renewed focus on the ancient astronauts and mythological lore. "Life here began out there..."

All the good stuff, repackaged into a new epic (EPIC!) motion picture. And hopefully planned as a true saga with a handful of productions.

And damn it all, I want a continuation. I want Richard, Dirk, Anne, Laurette, Jack, Herb... ALL of the actors able/willing to return. I doubt it, though. Even for Dirk, with whom Glen has a special place in his heart. Knowing Bryan from the previous production effort, he's going to be hellbent to make this HIS production. That means starting over. Same with Glen.

Where's Tom? :salute:

As I've discussed with a few folks, not everyone tosses their name out there. Some prefer to wait until the contracts are signed. Some understand the power plays of Hollywood and stay out of the limelight (although they're doing the lion's share of the heavy lifting). Tom was involved in both "Transformers" movies, yet wasn't at the forefront of the interviews, nor making vocal statements. Michael Bay (like Bryan) was the "brand" that is being spotlighted, even over Steven Spielberg's direct involvement in the production. I wish Tom would push harder, but that's his choice. (I'm ever curious what WME's (William Morris Endeavor's) instructions are in that regard...)

Tom - We know you used to read CF. And we have the highest regard for you. Hope you can leverage the site if you're on the production. We want to hear from you directly.

I still remember Bryan sanctioning the various "Superman Returns" websites to cover aspects on that production. Brilliant stuff, great marketing, fantastic content. One HOPES we'll see that again. After all, that's what many of us did to put BSG back on the radar with Richard's efforts all those yahren ago. :)

I'm soooo looking forward to what develops here. Continuation or complete reimagining (can't believe I'm saying that), we have our last chance, imho, to see something of the BSG TOS universe in action again. What a GREAT time for BSG!!

Michael
:colonial:

((((Michael))))
Hoping you and yours are doing well. I'm glad there was a reason for you to come back. Great to see you about again.

I'm cautious (if Tom were named at the offset my caution would be gone) but optimistic. Funny how meeting someone and hearing them talk about their love of your favorite show can make you really want them to be on the team that succeeds with it. :D Time will tell.

Jewels

[monolith21]

Agreed. I'm excited about this movie either way, but it would definitely be a crime if Tom were not involved. Given their working relationship in the past I'm surprised his name isn't all over this.

Can anyone get in contact with him and ask him about his involvement? We want you on board Tom!

[tracyb144]

Why is it that I'm not too overly excited about this news?
Perhaps it's the fact Hatch stated on his FaceBook page earlier tonight that this new BSG will be another reminaging of sorts. Sigh.
:(

[dilbertman]

Agreed. I'm excited about this movie either way, but it would definitely be a crime if Tom were not involved. Given their working relationship in the past I'm surprised his name isn't all over this.

Can anyone get in contact with him and ask him about his involvement? We want you on board Tom!

I have emailed Tom, just waiting to hear back from him.

Jim

[tracyb144]

I'll second that. Great idea!

Btw, I've noticed a lot of anti-gay statements on AICN... and now it's "creep"ing over here. Who cares if Bryan is homosexual? Who cares if we see additional derriere shots in a movie? Solid storytelling and filmmaking rules the day. "Valkyrie" did deliver.

Michael
:colonial:

P.S. Hey KJ!! :salute:

"Valkyrie"...solid movie. Cruise as Von Stauffenberg..not so much.

*Waves to Michael*:salute:

[Aussie Warrior]

It's amazing what happens when one goes away for a week, so much to read about

It is going to be an interesting time for Galactica fans, will these new developments satisfy original fans? will it satisfy fans of the RDM version? will this upcoming BSG movie be like the movie "The Punisher" a remake of a remake? or will all this just be only talked about and nothing done deals.

Hopefully all will be revealed soon and to fan agreement

[KJ]

I don't expect it to be 100% faithful.

I expect it to be an updated of the original version, with possible ties to the series version. But we're realistically talking about a multi-million dollar movie being done for Battlestar Galactica today, lets be 100% equally fair, 'ALOT WOULD CHANGE THOUGH' to make it work.

Beyond dogfights, a quest (searching for Earth of course), Cool sci-fi gizmos, The Cylons, The characters and the story etc. Plenty of underlying themes woul have to be incorperated into the new version to make it work on many levels not just us who are fans who asked and demanded its return, but plenty of elements and character stuff to entertain newbies and a new core of possible new generation fans to BSG as well.

Funny ain't it....

A while ago (a few years back) i asked the question what would a 'New' modern updated Galactica have for a movie incarnation in terms of Action, SFX, Stunts, Budget, A-list cast and music. Long before any story was conceived, just a raw example of stuff we all take for granted when viewing a motion picture!

But all love to brag about when we all leave the cinemas etc. The action scenes, love scenes, great stunt work etc.

Hmmm, remember a certain someone (member) shouting me down saying, there's 'NO' point to my post seeing as no movie would exist without the story? And yet movies are blatantly conceived with these things in mind, long before the writers and screenplay is ever written giving form to the ideas and concepts of the action set pieces!

So why are certain people's all stumped when there's talk of a possible BSG movie in the pipeline now???

I've always said i've never taken my membership on here for granted and i've always tried to be imaginative with my posts!

Guess, what goes around comes around huh!

The new film depending on what it'll be in terms of continuation/re-imagining combo. Will obviously need to be heavily done up and customised in order to make the movie work for today's fickle audiences.

If it were me i'd like to see.


* The same actual TV series BSG model shot for the ship in the movie. Using today's digital film cameras/IMAX cameras for continuty sakes.

And thats if its filmable/feasible (30 plus years old isn't it)

* Some sly nods to the original TV series in terms of costumes, dialogue, events (Battles of Molocay, Kobol, Arcta, Gamoray), Count iblis (name dropping should do enough if he's not in the first movie) Adama's belongings (Book Of The Word) Medallion (fleeting footage of Lorne Greene) etc, old Vipers/Raiders, props from the classic series.

But not in every frame, only in smart wisely choosen shots etc. If filmed in the hey you BSG fans remember all this stuff the film will be "pants" nuff said!

* Somethings mentioned in the original series expanded on. Like the Cylon homeworld (Named 'Cylon' In LPOTG), [add your own minor list here]

* And cover aspects that have changed in the gap between the series cancellation and the new movie. But not in a cheesy way, 'drop a line of dialogue' and never bring up again kinda way!


Beyond all that the film would have to be much broader in scope and draw in a crowd of not just us fans, but new concepts as well that are VERY fresh and something to be debated on and even improved upon for the possible sequels that could follow on, from the first Galactica live-action motion picture big budget movie. So that new fans will have opinions on how the first film went, but would like to see the sequels, no with questions asked seeing how the first one, was a knockout!!!

Thats just how it all works.

And you know i've got tons of ideas for DeSanto/Singer if they want'em. But even then I KNOW, it doesn't happen like that either.

They do it, then on general release day of the film, i go pay my ticket and see how they''ve done it!

When more news comes in about all this BSG movie news. Then i'll resurrect my 'What would you like to see in terms of actions/sequences, SFX and including: "storylines" etc in a big budgeted BSG Movie thread!

KJ

[KJ]

If you've E-mailed Tom Dilbertman, can you also E-mail him about me?

Ask him what he thinks of old KJ if he reads CF alot! I'd like to know. Been supporting him for years. When is he visiting the U.K. for any conventions, premieres or film studio business etc.

KJ

[monolith21]

The two fandoms will more than likely never agree. This film will probably draw both crowd though which is good.

Until Bryan Singer, Glen Larson or Tom DeSanto comes out and says this is a reimagining I'm not worrying. Even then, its a broad term and if anything I think the studio would use it just to cause the controversy it brought back in the early days of Gino.

Besides...the script isn't written yet they say. Maybe we need to let 'em know what we're hoping for. Before people start rolling their eyes I simply mean now isn't the time to sit back and be silent. I know a lot of us are tired of arguing (rightfully so) but it can't hurt to show our support for this project and be equally vocal with our hopes for a continuation.

I

[KJ]

CFF it is then Monolith21.

No petitioning, no voting, no nothing.

BSG 21st century big budgeted movie = CONTINUATION

(with necessary changes where possible, but continuation!)

Nice big ass poster, Glen Larson, Bryan Singer, Tom DeSanto drinking a toast to the official announcment!

KJ

P.S.

RD Moore seen crying in corner, Eick about to jump out into the street of traffic etc! hey, they animate those kinda things on NBSG anyways, it'll be a laugh. *wink*

[monolith21]

OH and I definitely think no matter which way this goes we'll see quite a bit of the original series in this production.

A few years ago at Comic Con during a panel for Superman returns, a fan asked Bryan if he intended to keep the uniforms in his update of Logan's Run. He said absolutely, something are iconic...the music, the look of the uniforms, the themes. He's very respectful of the source material.

[monolith21]

I'm with ya KJ!

[KJ]

Yup!

Naysayers can bitch and whine about SR all they want to. But it has John Williams' Superman theme music from Donner's two Superman films!

Nuff said!

KJ

[Eric Paddon]

And all that did was call attention to how in that instance Singer made a movie that couldn't compare to those earlier versions.

[ernie90125]

I'm in two minds about this.

I like the Transformers remake films.

I don't like the Battlestar remake series.

Here we are being told about another remake. Another Battlestar remake. Hmmmm....

[KJ]

So what.

It was a given following Christopher Reeve's portrayal of Superman in the eariler films, was an almost impossible task. Point is Monolith21 was on about respect for the sci-fi genre and source materials of somebody's fictional work, that Singer has. Same can't be said of other directors or TV show producers can it?

;)

Singer's SR wasn't better than Donner's "S" movies, TRUE!

But then again, Brett Ratner's turn at doing the X-Men films (X-Men 3) also pales in comparison to Singer's two X-Men films. The Wolverine spin off, i won't even bother going into.

Here's another point.

Technically on record, whether you like a particular film or not, if its earned its money back "IT'S NOT A FLOP". For a film to fail on all levels it has to cost ALOT of money, and not earn the budget it took to make it in the first place! And yet to many SR was so bad, many want yet another reboot Superman movie? ARE YOU ***king kidding me, another frikking reboot movie. What, after all the hell Superman went through in the 90's in development hell, nearly wearing a black suit with blades on it, Polar Bears at his Fortress Of Solitude, Giant Spiders etc etc etc.

SR ain't perfect by a long shot, but Singer's SR got a hell of alot right with it on the flipside, compared to what it was actually going to turn out to be, with Burton, JJ (i'm not always right) Abrams and McG nearly taking the helm of the director's chair on the Warner Brothers film lot.

Warners messed up SR 50% as much as Singer made some bad editing choices (Cutting the expensive; 'The Return To Krypton' sequence). And possibly not ending the film on a *must resolve/must see the sequel* style cliffhanger (Brainiac should've been referenced somewhat as the next film's villain) was Singer's huge mistake. Warners should've greenlit the sequel two years ago. Cos when a superhero feature doesn't have a sequel within 4 to 5 years tops, any expensive follow up is worthless and pointless. And i'm talking superhero films, not R-Rated action films like Alien, Terminator or the Matrix. They follow slightly different rules and can bend the superhero ones altogether.

And earning ones budget back for a film but no major profit ontop, may not mean success in the grandest sense of things its true.

But you can't tell me flops and lesser/crappier films in the past 10 years compared to SR, haven't yielded several sequels despite poor box office returns though, can you?

Think about that one!

KJ

[Damocles]

Show me the MONEY.

[BST]

Show me the MONEY.

Apparently showing $10 million to Singer was enough to get him on board.

;)

[Benedict]

I'd like to see Messrs Benedict & Hatch in it somewhere. I imagine Hatch wouldn't mind doing it despite being involved in the other thing. It's annoying though...the Star Trek forum I am on has a strong nBSG element (Despite there being an option for BSG78 fans) and all I hear is "campathon" and Hollywood are morons to go back to something that "wasn't successful". Even if I'm the only one round my parts...I'll still see it.

[BST]

I'd like to see Messrs Benedict & Hatch in it somewhere. I imagine Hatch wouldn't mind doing it despite being involved in the other thing. It's annoying though...the Star Trek forum I am on has a strong nBSG element (Despite there being an option for BSG78 fans) and all I hear is "campathon" and Hollywood are morons to go back to something that "wasn't successful". Even if I'm the only one round my parts...I'll still see it.

Not too worry, Benedict. There will always be naysayers.

It will be interesting, though, to view their comments AFTER the movie has been released. What forum was that?

;)

[Benedict]

Dare I mention it...The Omega Sector.

I try to fly the flag valiantly but I come off a whingey :)

This has been an idea -the movie- for a while so in a way it's nothing new. I'll stop there before I rant about the nBSG. Ha

[Darrell Lawrence]

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16686

[Titon]

I'm in two minds about this.

I like the Transformers remake films.

I don't like the Battlestar remake series.

Here we are being told about another remake. Another Battlestar remake. Hmmmm....


Ernie they litterly have no choice. Using the source material as it was intended is what i'm looking for. If they remake it using the same ships, themes and premis i'm all for it. You have to remember even though some of the actor's are still alive there are core elements missing from the original series. Lorne Greene for one plus John Colicos. If you have to recast those elements i'm all for starting over and seeing what happens.

Remake or not if it follow's what Galactica was original built on i'll be there in the front row.

:)

And i didn't think Singer's Superman was all that bad.

[Reaper]

although loosing Lorne Greene is a big loss to a continuation, We had a conversation about Replacing John Calicos on another board. What we came up with is using his Son Nicolas Calicos And either make and CGHI effects to age him, or have TYhe Cylons being experimenting on him and turning hiom into a cyborg. Same basic character, Same essential look to him, and a respectful recasting.

[Creep]

That being said, he is indeed very talented and I've never seen his films to be works that were characterized in any way as have just been described by Creep.

Bryan

It's not just by Creep, even Kevin Smith said the only way you can look at 'X-Men' movies is by grasping that 'X-Men' represent gay people in society. Even that gay actor in 'X-Men', Alan Cumming, said that he took the role after Singer told him that those characters represent those outcasted [gay] people. People are also saying that Singer made Superman look gay - look a this if you don't believe me http://www.dailyramblings.com/ramblings/877.php

[jjrakman]

Kevin Smith has always been a douche bag.

[ernie90125]

Ernie they litterly have no choice. Using the source material as it was intended is what i'm looking for. If they remake it using the same ships, themes and premis i'm all for it. You have to remember even though some of the actor's are still alive there are core elements missing from the original series. Lorne Greene for one plus John Colicos. If you have to recast those elements i'm all for starting over and seeing what happens.

Remake or not if it follow's what Galactica was original built on i'll be there in the front row.

:)

And i didn't think Singer's Superman was all that bad.

And here we are back to an idea from long ago....a new younger cast but with some of the older cast too. Commander Apollo and Col. Starbuck, leading a new batch of Warriors was suggested around the time of TNS. Baltar could be played by a Cyborg with the same voice, or a new villian.

When TNS was first announced it received a hostile response from many, this idea seems to be both ignoring a Continuation whilst also slapping Ron Moore in a face by doing another remake right after he finished his.

Sorry, I'm wanting a Continuation, not another remake. Like TNS, I'll give it a chance, I may love it, but my heart has sank since hearing this isn't a TOS Continuation from a previous supporter of TOS.

But at least Hollywood respects BSG as a viable property nowadays...

[Titon]

And here we are back to an idea from long ago....a new younger cast but with some of the older cast too. Commander Apollo and Col. Starbuck, leading a new batch of Warriors was suggested around the time of TNS. Baltar could be played by a Cyborg with the same voice, or a new villian.

When TNS was first announced it received a hostile response from many, this idea seems to be both ignoring a Continuation whilst also slapping Ron Moore in a face by doing another remake right after he finished his.

Sorry, I'm wanting a Continuation, not another remake. Like TNS, I'll give it a chance, I may love it, but my heart has sank since hearing this isn't a TOS Continuation from a previous supporter of TOS.

But at least Hollywood respects BSG as a viable property nowadays...

Well to be honest if anyone got slapped it was us. Worrying about Ron Moore and what he might think is the last thing i'd worry about being a fan of The original concept. Ron pretty much wiped the floor with the TOS premis.

It all depends on how this all comes together. If it goes to a thearetical release it would be hard to do a continuation. Not impossible but difficult. Need to be able to grab old and new fan's.

But it all depends on how it's delivered.

[monolith21]

I just remembered that Singer likes to work with David Hayter...this thing would be amazing if he penned the script!

[jewels]

Well to be honest if anyone got slapped it was us. Worrying about Ron Moore and what he might think is the last thing i'd worry about being a fan of The original concept. Ron pretty much wiped the floor with the TOS premis.

It all depends on how this all comes together. If it goes to a thearetical release it would be hard to do a continuation. Not impossible but difficult. Need to be able to grab old and new fan's.

But it all depends on how it's delivered.I'm for big ship deserves big screen. Been that way since, oh, the summer of '79. I don't mind a reboot. I do think that, like Trek, much of the ship and costume design can hark back to the original without looking 'old'. I think that's actually easier with Dorleac's and McQuarrie's designs than with Trek's polyester tunics.

[monolith21]

Definitely! If they can bring the look of TOS Trek back and make it work then Galactica will be way easier!

[KJ]

When it comes down to it.

Hope Singer's got all this in mind.....


* Drew Struzan does the BSG movie poster. Possibly Frank Frazetta, if he's well enough to do so (Frank's getting on in age these days).

* Steve Skroce storyboards the movie (as he did with The Matrix movies). Guy Dyas can do them as well, but Steve Skroce should be hired as an artist for this picture too!

* Several A-list actors take prominate but yet supporting roles (including the possible sequels followups), while newcomers and original stars take the more established ones instead.

* Patrick McNee voice used for Imperious Leader. Have him film and record/loop his voice for a ton of voiceover work (Patrick getting on in age too) So at least there's a common reference to the original series in this respect! Any new technologies can make it more menacing and deeper voiced digitally etc... But as long as McNee reprises that role we'll have a big step forward in making any new incarnation of BSG have some nods to the classic series, while moving forward and giving McNee some new ground to cover using new dialogue being spoken and following a new/ongoing plot storywise!

Which makes perfect sense.

* Film in exotic locals around the globe. Everything from Egyptian and Mayan Pyramids to mountains and whatnot for beautifully shot location footage, for the new film etc. BIG EPIC "Friggin" VISION!!! Larson shot minor footage for LPOTG episode in Egypt, imagine what a multi-million dollar Galactica movie, would be able to achieve by comparison.

Capture those mythological BSG 'motifs' with some major location work for the movie version now!

* And of course, get a great friggin line producer to get you enough studio time. So production can film in famous places like; Pinewood studios (using the famous '007 soundstage'), Leavesden studios, Universal Studios (film lot), and their international namesakes in other studio lots; Prague and whatnot etc. (Want this baby to be big etc.)

Build those Sets and props in several studios if need be and cover those production costs wisely.

* Filmed in 3D IMAX cameras as well as traditional film cameras. Possibly have big action scenes filmed in digital 70mm for those long shots filled with incredible 'location Vistas' etc.

Anyone else got something to add....

KJ

[oldwardaggit]

It would be cool to see a movie that touched on all the unexplored aspects of the original series. Like, why did the 13Th colony go in a different direction then the 12 to find earth.
It would be cool to see some scenes of that. It would also be cool to see when they landed on earth. There were so many different things going on at the same time in the original that if touched on, this movie could have many layers to it and be very epic.

I'm still not crazy about another reboot but I'll give it a chance. I'm open to lots of different idea's that allow the original to exist but the reboot thing bums me out a bit.

Now I imagine there will soon be those who will be all over this forum attacking us but just as we gave the fans of Moore's production, a hand by arguing with the paid supporters at that time, they will be giving us a hand because it doesn't matter these days if it's good or bad, just as long as your talking about it, it will stay in the public eye.

OWD

[KJ]

Think the earlier suggested idea of CF becoming a hotspot for the new production 'Old War Daggit', would be sweet long as it was sanctioned by DeSanto, Singer and Larson it'll be cool with me.

Long as the mods steped up their game and said, no infighting baiting etc, i'd be cool with that too. If newbies got banned for starting arguements and whatnot, too bad. We'd have to tolerate even more negative opinions about the new movie being what it is (hopefully a continuation) but if people think CF would be become anything like ainticool news simply cos it opened up commercially to sell the new BSG movie.

Think again!!!

CF might open the door to broaden its audience if it became the number #1 place to get updates for the movie. But i seriously doubt the mods would put up with people leaving disgusting posts simply to goad older fans and possibly new BSG movie fans alike.

KJ

[Gemini1999]

All I have to say is that I've got an open mind about this film project. Until there's word as to story, casting, etc., I'm just not in the mood to worry about what it may or may not be at this point. I don't think that I could manage nearly 2 years' worth of worrying and wondering, so I've no choice but to be patient about it.

When I consider that when this thread first got started, there were a lot of folks that said it would never happen and now we've got another bump up in this bit of news that gives more credibility and life to it. I'm pretty happy just knowing that there are folks giving a BSG film serious consideration to put it in the development process.

Bryan

[Gemini1999]

It's not just by Creep, even Kevin Smith said the only way you can look at 'X-Men' movies is by grasping that 'X-Men' represent gay people in society. Even that gay actor in 'X-Men', Alan Cumming, said that he took the role after Singer told him that those characters represent those outcasted [gay] people. People are also saying that Singer made Superman look gay - look a this if you don't believe me http://www.dailyramblings.com/ramblings/877.php

Creep -

I'm putting on the moderator hat for this particular post. If you care to talk about the subject at hand - which is the discussion of a BSG movie, then please join in. If you're here to talk homophobia, then maybe your time would be better spent over at AICN instead. One more post from you about this particular subject will get your posts deleted for being off topic and maybe a short term suspension of your posting privileges on this board.

Pull yourself back into formation and clean your act up - understood?

Regards,

Gemini1999
Colonial Fleets Moderator

[BST]

Regarding Colonial Fleets and her mission:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17153

:salute:

[KJ]

See..!

People shouldn't confuse freedom of speech with outright rudeness and total B.S. garbage etc.

Well done Gemini 1999.

Moving on......

I wanted to put this out there.

With an opportunity like the BSG movie being discussed for a big screen adaptation. Providing us with this should also allow for us to ask Universal 'Via' CFF if now would be an excellent time to put a 'Battlestar Galactica Remastered Special Edition' into action for Blu-Ray DVD re-release!

Think about it....

While doing Superman Returns, Singer did go across the road at Warners and talk to Michael Thau and film director, Richard Donner who were working on 'Superman 2: The Richard Donner Cut'. One opportunity led to another being done. So doesn't anyone think that pretty soon the word should be asked of Universal, that if all things BSG are being considered now, wouldn't it be the perfect chance to vastly "Enhance" the original series on HD-DVD (such as Blu-Ray) with all the deleted scenes remastered and reincorperated back into their original episode slots. And for alot of scenes to be fixed and continuity issues with several scenes (The Pegasus conversation with Cain, Apollo and Boomer confronting Silverspar Squadron) and several editing goofs throughout the series now being all fixed up etc.

Remastering of picture and audio levels to be adjusted, Colour Enhancements (they look too muted nower days) and finally the remastering the episodes to be in 5.1 or 7.1 for PC's/Macs audio wise.

New interviews with the cast, and quite possibly auido commentary tracks by the actors where available!

Seeing as big amounts of money will no doubt be thrown at the new movie's production. Wonder if taking advantage of the situation by filtering some of the excess cash could also be put into production of the possibly remastered original '78 series onto Blu-Ray DVD's in the near future!

Gotta jump on that bandwagon if the chance of major opportunity comes by now don't we?

What do you all say people?..... :salute::)

KJ

[KJ]

NuBSG fans on other boards are just pissed that they all know deep down, their version was on shakey legs from the get go.

The movie being based on the classic series will only cement the fact, that their version was a massive egotrip for all those who produced and got behind it all (Hammer, Eick and Moore etc.) and that by going back to the original not only confirms their's was crap to begin with, but that the original series was always in the minds of the majority of folks the world over, since 1978!

Proof's in the pie ladies and gentlemen!

Everything in pulp culture, has referenced classic BSG not the Moore version. From The Simpsons, Family Guy, Robot Chicken to old sitcoms. When you've got that much knocking at your door, you've ask yourself. Whats more prelevent in society. A new show using the media claiming, its the best with a smaller cable audience, or a classic that everyone remembers from TV.

You don't build something with a smaller group with their own personal issues, cos it takes much longer to complete the damn task. You use a much larger group (i.e. everyone else in the global sense) to build something for (i.e. the new movie).

Singer will make changes no doubt, but if he's a fan of the classic series, even he wouldn't alienate the majority of the existing fanbase or new potential fans with a 90% altered BSG movie flick. Even Singer knows there are things you can't change if your basing a new movie off of something thats already known to the audiences for 3 plus decades!!!

If anything, Bryan Singer will probably be using his valuble time in the boardroom negociations to convincing the 'suits' of whats best for the new movie, and telling them to stop all the cliched nonsense of not "listening" to their audiences wants and demands i.e. us and the film going public!

We'll see though won't we, we'll see as more new news comes through!

KJ

[monolith21]

I definitely think we'll see some action on the original series front to promote this. I'd love to see a great Blue Ray set!

I think it will be a few months though. I understand how you feel Bryan. I'm dying for more info now that the announcement has been made! I'm looking forward to following the production though. From who is writing this thing on out!

[KJ]

Thanks Monolith, i know deep down enough people on here want the original BG series to have the Blu-Ray treatment with extra features!

But also, unlike Star Trek, i think ALOT more care should go into making BG:RSE stand out moreso. ST being remastered kinda missed out on alot of things far as the TOS Star Trek episodes go. a BSG version would benefit greatly from alot more input from Larson and co. Think we should mail them DK edits with a letter, or at least get CFF to make a poster with DK's best pictures from his edits thus showing them whats expected in a HD-Remastering etc.

All this coming out along side the new movie would be cool indeed!

What else could happen, ideas anyone? What about getting Sandy's BSG Audio series a massive commercial sale distribution too with the new movie coming up? Hey, anything goes i reckon!

KJ

[jewels]

KJ, I like your thoughts on a SE.

Right now I just want them to focus on getting the movie developed and out.

[KJ]

P.S. I'm also going to remember all the "ass kissing" several magazines did and send them e-mails saying who looking to get info on the new BSG movie now huh, though you losers hated and trashed the classic series, my how things have change huh? Looks like in order to do your pitiful jobs, you've now got to get stories on the classic series getting an all new movie by film director Bryan Singer in order to fill your lousy mags up with new material about the old show you trashed in favor of the remake by RD Moore. You know? The one you love thats got misarable characters and glorified rape scenes, betrayals, Skinjobs Cylons (cos sci-fi was cheap and didn't want invest in making the villainous Cylon machines the star of the show etc?) and whatnot.

Crazy ain't it!

Yeah, i'm gonna love rubbing it back in their faces after so long.

KJ

[KJ]

Both can happen at the same time though. Its not as if multiple projects can't be handle by a company large as Universal Studios.

And SE Blu-Ray Remastered DVD's of the classic series, could follow up from and only enhance the theatrical debut of the new film. Sandy's audio series getting a commerical release would be huge too. And alot of BSG books about the new movie and the classic series (and possibly NUBSG getting some action) could all get some exposure.

Nothing is small scale when you look at the big picture of things!

There's always room for multiple side-productions of BSG material, if a new big budgeted sci-fi movie coming out with BSG name on it.


KJ

[michaelfaries]

Something for everyone to consider...

* I wouldn't expect Tom, Bryan, Glen - anyone - to disclose details at this point.

* To Universal, BSG is the new series. The 1978 series isn't viewed with the same zeal and enthusiasm as we hold for it. I'm envisioning the hard sell of this "reimagined" movie project as a comparison between 1960s Star Trek and the 2009 Star Trek film. Re-do, not re-continue.

* Remember (and I hesitate to say this openly) that Singer's TV effort back in 2001 wasn't geared towards a revival/continuation project. In fact, it was Tom who made tremendous strides to get aspects of BSG TOS into the project. Execs were critical about not going with a continuation at the time; when Bryan/Tom started getting the production underway, certain things... changed. That's the major reason you never saw the production team make big splashes about Richard, Dirk, Herb, Noah, Terry, Anne, Laurette, Jack, George, etc. It would have undermined their efforts. I still think it helped to kill the project once Bryan left (that and the LAME excuses about Tom not having the acumen or experience to carry the project forward).

It slays me... Do you know how many of the original cast might have appeared?

Don't read into this though. I'd agree w/Richard as pointed out by Tracy. No original cast in their roles. :(

Michael

[monolith21]

I'm holding out hope, but if he does a faithful reboot I'd still be on board. I know it'll be much more recognizable as Battlestar no matter what he does.

I hope Tom does get involved. He's our guy!!! I'm hoping for that announcement and David Hayter as the writer.

Odds are we won't hear anything for a while. There is a lot of work to do even if this is fast tracked for 2011.

[KJ]

Agreed Michael!

Funny how, Larson's got his "Star" on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame and Moore doesn't. But who out of the two of them, gets far more respect far as talking to executives in a boardroom meeting?

Hmmm?. :(

Hollywood and its ageism thing! :errr:

Yeah, everyone and their dog wanted a continuation 2001/02 but the 'suits' don't. you figure people who go work in the entertainment industry would realise despite what they do in order to produce TV/movies, isn't the same as what the audience actually really wants!

Yet, here we are on the outside not knowing about anything going on about these meetings, only waiting what to be told they're going to undertake and in what exact 'capacity' yet again.

They can do what they want Michael, but at the end of the day, its our "money" and my hands aren't going to open my wallet near any box office counter, if the movie going to be "pants". And bad 'word of mouth' about any terrible film always kills the potential blockbuster movies during Summer/Holiday seasons, regardless of its famous "title" or not, if studios aren't very careful how they go about it.

Like i said before, hope Singer's educating the 'suits' about how not to disappoint the fans/fanbase and the luring in of new fans and getting a whole new audience to see this movie, if they're smart enough to go about the production of this thing the right way, and do it justice from the get go!

I don't expect a 70's Galactica TV series, 2 hour movie continuation to wrap up the lingering effects and plotlines of events left off from "Hand Of God". But i expect Singer (and DeSanto *fingers crossed*) in his own way will pay respects to the old show and give us something new to care for though. But with strong enough TOS elements running throughout! And building all new BSG mythologies too.

Don't be a stranger Mike, we'll talk again.

Cya! :thumbsup:

KJ

[larocque6689]

This was always my understanding of what Bryan's original plans were:

http://battlestargalactica.me/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0047.htm

"For me it was never a question of a remake. It was always going to be a continuation. It was really about how far we were going to set it in the future, and whether it was going to be a continuation à la Star Trek: The Next Generation, which was going to be something completely different, where everyone in the past was dead, and they were referenced, and you might have Bones show up in the first episode, but that was it. Once Bryan saw the fanbase out there, he started to become convinced that it could be 25 years later, which was, I think, the best way to take the show."



In the same note, Michael provided descriptions of this storyline. Surprisingly, they bear a strong resemblance neither to Ron Moore's miniseries script (reviewed later in 2002), nor previously published biodomes details from 2001, but rather, the original Bryan Singer concept for Galactica:

"[It's been] 130-160 yahrens since the original series, as I've been told, if one of the script ideas holds. And the possibility exists that this BG universe might be in the same universe in a different future timeline with different circumstances. Yes, there's Cylons as antogonists, but that's about the only thing I'm hearing that's related to the original series (by name only.) Even the show's namesake hasn't been defined yet. Are they re-imagining that, too?"



Although the "biodomes" Galactica and DeSanto/Singer appear to be two separate productions, the initial reaction to the "biodomes" project by original series fans was something very much on the minds of DeSanto/Singer and StudiosUSA. As mentioned above, the earliest press releases distanced the new production from specific "biodomes" plot elements. The original series fanbase was also the main factor in Bryan Singer's decision to steer away from a Star Trek: The Next Generation style continuation in favor of one set a generation after the events of the 1978 series, and which would have included members of the original cast. It's entirely possible that the Next Generation plot elements attributed to the "biodomes" Galactica in 2002 originated from one of the early Bryan Singer scripts.

So Tom yanked that back to within a single generation after TOS.

Of course it was this very script which was disparaged by Kissinger, Eick et. al. and which they were happy to distance themselves from, as soon as Bryan Singer was no longer associated with the project.

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Creep,

I don't know you or anything about you ... but in light of your recent comment, I don't want to.

I've not seen any of Singer's films that seemed to be an advertisement for walking on the gay side. Given that you rush to the director's personal life as your slam against the project, I can only presume that you are a person of extemely poor character. If you seriously believe that this new Galactica project is going to be the Village People flying vipers in their leather outfits, then you're also an idiot.

As someone who is not in the gay community, I find your input offensive and moronic.


Russell

[BST]

Well now, I guess we had better stow away all the breakables!

;)

[JLHurley]

Reading reactions from fans of Moore's version--the ones who are up at arms over the very idea of classic BG's return, anyway--is definitely amusing. Makes me think that the tables may have turned and it's now THEIR turn to get POed over new BG developments.

There have been many, many interpretations of Superman and Batman (in film and in print) since they first appeared in the late 30s/early 40s. Moore's BG is essentially a done thing, so I say move over and let someone else give this magnificent story a shot.