New Studio Scale Models and other Great models on the way!!

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey everyone,
Just have to drop a quick line and announce that Michael miles artistry has been too busy the past year and we are still not caught up as of yet. Been in galleries and expanding my artistry business with blueprinting and scratch building masters to mold and introduce to the Battlestar collectors world. Our models are reasearched from hundreds of photos and exact measurements are sized just right. Blueprinted and then of to be molded. The first one to be offered is the studio scale desanto viper. Lots of photos and research went into this and here she is about finished. She will be more affordable in price compared to the other resin kits and the detail is correct. It will feature pilot with upgraded warrior helmet and detailed interior that we suggest that you fiber optic. The price $ 95.00
The shuttle will be 10 inches in length and will feature quite a bit of the major details but left a bit bare for the modelers to add their own details and have fun searching out the various parts to complete. We are also going to offer a 29inch galactica, more on this, with pics later. Pre-orders will soon be taken on e-bay through seller i.d. zombiebutt. Read our rating and you’ll know for fact that we deliver the goods. See you on the launch deck!
See ya on the launch deck. :D http://tinypic.com/fy1gkx.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fy1ic6.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fy1ift.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fy1ilv.jpg

[spcglider]

Well, those are looking quite nice. Keep us appraised of the progress. I'm in for a desanto viper when it's ready.

-Gordon

[ernie90125]

Is this an officially licensed product ? Will you apply to Tom DeSanto to have it endorsed ?

Also, what is the art under the Viper is then first picture ? The detail on the lady's face is excellent.....please tell us more.....

Best of luck......

[WarriorChemist]

Hi Ernie... I don't know anything about licensing but I do know something about the painting. BlueSquad2001 is the boyfriend I mentioned in my first post. He is working on that painting right now, sitting directly behind me. It's something he made up to look like a poster to advertise for the fleet. He got the idea from old WWII recruit posters and thought it would be fun to make one for BG. He thinks he will have it finished by 9:00 tonight but I think he is being too optimistic! LOL! He also started an oil painting last year but never finished it. When he gets ready, he'll get it back out. I'll ask him to post an image of this painting when he gets it completed. The woman in the painting now has hair and part of her outfit is done.

Thanks for your interest. This really keeps BlueSquad2001 motivated to do more.

[WarriorChemist]

Took a photo for you... Hope you like it.

http://tinypic.com/fyel8i.jpg

[ernie90125]

Thanks for posting the image. This is an amazing talent you (or your boyfriend?) have. Have you ever considered creating a comic or animation ?

[WarriorChemist]

Thanks Ernie... It's my boyfriend's work, not mine. I wish I had that kind of talent. I paint too but nothing like this. One time we thought he was going to get to do a comic, but it turned out to be somebody just trying to rip him off. Maybe he could answer your questions better than I am, but he is busy painting right now. LOL...

[amberstar]

Good to see you again Bluesquad ;)

Keep up the good work sweetie!

[BlueSquad2001]

AMBERSTAR!!! ;) Good to see you again. I'm glad your still here. :salute:
Strikeleader?? :wtf: You've been busy yourself.

Is this an officially licensed product ? Will you apply to Tom DeSanto to have it endorsed ?

Also, what is the art under the Viper is then first picture ? The detail on the lady's face is excellent.....please tell us more.....

Best of luck...... And Ernie, there are no (OFFICIALLY LICENSED) Galactica model products available period at this point and time. You can visit StarShip Modeler.com and buy StudioScale Vipers $150.00 and Cylon Raiders $350.00 as well as a few other things related, but they are ALL fan made. That's why they are cast in resin, but so much higher detail and quality than MASS produced and licensed kits. Get ready for your DeSanto pre-order... :rotf: WE DELIVER!

[BlueSquad2001]

Well, those are looking quite nice. Keep us appraised of the progress. I'm in for a desanto viper when it's ready.

-Gordon
I'm shooting for a projected finish point of 11/25/05, and will announce it here. ;)

[Charybdis]

Wow, that painting is pretty awesome as are the models!!! I'd also say that the female warrior in the picture needs a slightly 'larger' warrior tunic!!!!

[BlueSquad2001]

Wow, that painting is pretty awesome as are the models!!! I'd also say that the female warrior in the picture needs a slightly 'larger' warrior tunic!!!!
:rotf: :wtf: WHY???

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay Warrior, here are close-ups of the engine details, with size comparison of TOS Studio Scale. It's a little bigger and longer, but sleeker. :)
http://tinypic.com/fypo5w.jpg

[Darrell Lawrence]

Ah yes... yours goes straight instead of curved like mine does-

http://www.colonialfleets.com/gallery/data/media/2/desanto_viper0.jpg

The studio scale doesn't have it fully defined yet, but shows a hint of curvature (lower left corner)

http://www.colonialfleets.com/gallery/data/media/7/desanto-prod-viper-model.jpg

While the full scale model doesn't have it defined at all yet

http://www.colonialfleets.com/gallery/data/media/7/desanto-prod-viper-build08.jpg

And the painting does not show it at all, so it's pretty much useless :LOL:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/gallery/data/media/7/desanto-prod-viper-concept.jpg

[Darrell Lawrence]

After looking at those again, mine looks like it *SHOULD* have gone straight. :/:

[BlueSquad2001]

Give me a call, I sent an e-mail with number. Let's chat. :salute:

[peter noble]

A 29-inch Galactica?

Wow, that's over 1/3 the size of the filming miniature.

I want one, now!

[BlueSquad2001]

We have gotten started on the 29 inch as well as the 40inch and we are deciding which to do? I want to do both, but keep costs down. The 29 inch will be priced at $300.00 not bad for an enormous undertaking such as the Galactica. We have to make sure of the details as well as the correct angles. The 40 inch will be around 375.00 per model, but that is real heavy resin casting. :salute:
And yes, these are LOW PRICED! Most people would charge many times more than this. :wtf:

[spcglider]

I see, like me, you've opted to be reasonable in your pricing! Good on ya! :salute:

All the stuff I'm making... the props and odd bits of ephemera... are all being done because I CAN and I want to
keep the original series alive for the next crop of fans who come along. That, and making sure that the powers-that-be aren't
ignoring the fandom alltogether. When a fandom keeps generating cool stuff like those models, it goes LONG way to keeping old folks interested
and attracting new folks to the fandom.

Good work there!

BTW: I prefer the curve.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

The "curve" is definately there. But it is beautifully subtle. Wiat till all of you see what Warrior and I are working together to achieve. :D

[peter noble]

All the stuff I'm making... the props and odd bits of ephemera... are all being done because I CAN and I want to keep the original series alive for the next crop of fans who come along. That, and making sure that the powers-that-be aren't ignoring the fandom alltogether. When a fandom keeps generating cool stuff like those models, it goes LONG way to keeping old folks interested and attracting new folks to the fandom.

What you're doing Gordon, and the other BSG TOS websites, and anyone working on art, or stories or fan films are all keeping the dream alive.

You had to be around at the time, but before Galactica, there was nothing of that scale on TV, not Star Trek, Land of the Giants, anything. BSG was an event, and something that's never really been attempted since.

[BlueSquad2001]

Thank You Peter. And can you help with my other posting in the Art-Un-Finished about the Mc Galactica Drawings? :salute:

[peter noble]

Thank You Peter. And can you help with my other posting in the Art-Un-Finished about the Mc Galactica Drawings? :salute:

Most of my magazine collection is in storage which features stuff like that is in storage but I'll dig around.

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

Thanks Peter, I really appreciate this help from you. It'll put newer galactica models in the world for fans to enjoy. :salute: :colonial:

[SciFi Models]

Mike

Give me a call I sent you a PM

Rob

[BlueSquad2001]

This attempt at communicating is futile at best. But I tried. :salute:

[Griffworks]

So, Michael....

Is it done yet? When can I come over and fire the turbos on the thing.? :D

[amberstar]

AMBERSTAR!!! ;) Good to see you again. I'm glad your still here. :salute:
Strikeleader?? :wtf: You've been busy yourself.




;) Yep.......been really busy ;)

I'm glad to see you found your way home! By the way...I love the model!

[BlueSquad2001]

So, Michael....

Is it done yet? When can I come over and fire the turbos on the thing.? :D
FRIDAY!!!! YES... :D She'll fly FRIDAY the 25th! :salute: :colonial:

[BlueSquad2001]

;) Yep.......been really busy ;)

I'm glad to see you found your way home! By the way...I love the model!
Yes Amberstar, I'm home and LOVE IT HERE! You're wonderful and it's nice to have you as a friend. Glad you like it. It's affordable too ;) It's got heat and air, leather bucket seats, complete communication surround sound, adjustable harness for just that right feel with full turbos engaged, tinted laser-proof glass, and just the right shade of orangie-redish color to the stripes. All for the low cost of 95.00+shippingand handling. :rotf: ;)

[Gemini1999]

Yes Amberstar, I'm home and LOVE IT HERE! You're wonderful and it's nice to have you as a friend. Glad you like it. It's affordable too ;) It's got heat and air, leather bucket seats, complete communication surround sound, adjustable harness for just that right feel with full turbos engaged, tinted laser-proof glass, and just the right shade of orangie-redish color to the stripes. All for the low cost of 95.00+shippingand handling. :rotf: ;)

But, does it go from zero to .15C in less than 6 microns? More importantly, does it have plenty of cargo space and does it come with a 6-disk CD player?

You just can't go from an Shuttle to a Viper without keeping some of the creature comforts, now can you?

Those are some great pics of your models - It almost makes me want to dig one or two out of the closet and start modeling again....

Best,
Bryan

[Griffworks]

FRIDAY!!!! YES... :D She'll fly FRIDAY the 25th! :salute: :colonial:
Right on! I'll bring my camera and my blaster, then. :Nsalute: :bg04:

[Darrell Lawrence]

But, does it go from zero to .15C in less than 6 microns? More importantly, does it have plenty of cargo space and does it come with a 6-disk CD player?

You just can't go from an Shuttle to a Viper without keeping some of the creature comforts, now can you?

Best,
BryanHey! Don't be giving out the specs of the Cobra now... :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Understood Warrior. And THANK YOU all for the killer compliments. Will post here later today. Thanks Gemini! :salute: :colonial:

[Griffworks]

Was that the crack of a whip I heard in the background there, Michael? :coolangel

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Mike,

Nice to see you around here. Its been a while.

Great to see the DeSanto ship moving along and the recruitment poster would likely get me to sign up.

Did you ever finish up the Frazetta painting you were working on a while back?


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

Was that the crack of a whip I heard in the background there, Michael? :coolangel
Why yes, it certainly was. :D Kewle that you are here, I'm about to get moving on the completion of the DeSanto Viper after I have my tea. :salute: It's just too early. :wtf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Mike,

Nice to see you around here. Its been a while.

Great to see the DeSanto ship moving along and the recruitment poster would likely get me to sign up.

Did you ever finish up the Frazetta painting you were working on a while back?


Sandy
SANDY!!!!! Long Time. :salute: :salute: :colonial: Tried to even write you a time or two, but maybe you just missed it. :D
Everyone, please salute The Cylon.Org Founder Sandy, that originally interviewed me on the site about the project that is finally seeing the light of day. :D Sandy I'll p.m. you with phone number, it's an honor to be greeted by you, and I wish you to post an up-date on this project over at Cylon.Org. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Ladies and Gentlemen please give a round of applause to mine and Terri's and probably Griffworks will come into this endeavor also, NEW MODEL COMPANY.......(SMEGMODELS) :salute: Christened on this day of Nov, the 24th 2005. :D

http://tinypic.com/hsj5a9.jpg
And the above pick, for your entertainment as well as knowledge, a MAJOR KEY signature Colonial Shuttle detail part! :salute:
Let's play a game, let's see if you can identify this part, and what model kit and scale it comes from? C'mon modelers. This could become a LOOOONG thread. :salute:
Oh, and the Canopy for the DeSanto model is about finished, pics soon. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

UPDATE
We are casting the wings and vertical stabilizer, and replicating necessary greeblies. Pics soon. :salute:

[ernie90125]

Congrats on the new company.....and the progress displayed here.....best of luck with the future........

[BlueSquad2001]

Congrats on the new company.....and the progress displayed here.....best of luck with the future........
Thank You Ernie. We appreciate that. :salute:

[dilbertman]

Put me down for two to start. Will then hopefully work up to a squad. Add a pair of 45 inch battlestars to.

Jim :salute: :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

Put me down for two to start. Will then hopefully work up to a squad. Add a pair of 40 inch battlestars to.

Jim :salute: :thumbsup:
Just sent you an e-mail. Get in touch this evening if you wish to be placed on the pre-order list. Thanks Dilbertman. :salute: :colonial:

[BlueSquad2001]

As for everyone wishing for update pics, we are ironing out any detail problems and should have pics of casted pieces withing a day or so. Pre-orders will be then accepted following to get the real kit castings rolling into reality. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Here are master build up pics. Before molding. Canopy master as well as vertical stabilizer and left wing, showing panel lines and intake details. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/hv5p9y.jpg
http://tinypic.com/hv5pxd.jpg :D
OH.. and by the way, yes panel lines are now being added to the fuselage (nose) area, I promise, it will be detailed. Similar to TOS but like an advanced version as it is. :D

[TwoBrainedCylon]

SANDY!!!!! Long Time. :salute: :salute: :colonial: Tried to even write you a time or two, but maybe you just missed it. :D
Everyone, please salute The Cylon.Org Founder Sandy, that originally interviewed me on the site about the project that is finally seeing the light of day. :D Sandy I'll p.m. you with phone number, it's an honor to be greeted by you, and I wish you to post an up-date on this project over at Cylon.Org. :salute:

Glad to see the work continues. I don't own Cylon.org anymore. Some fine people are running that now. I do own AllGalactica.com and would like to do up an article similar to the CA one there. I've got a bunch of stuff going up there in mid-Dec.

Send me the PM and I'll give you a call.

Nice to see you around again. Its been a while.

Sandy

[Griffworks]

So, is it done yet? Is it done yet? :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Hi Jeffrey,

This is Terri posting for Michael. He's working on the last wing and said we will cast the wings and vertical stabilizer very soon, like in a few minutes! I'm going to help make the mold (multitasking while doing laundry!)

Like most projects, this is taking longer than expected. I think Michael is usually too optimistic when he talks about how long something will take for him to finish because he truly enjoys it so much that he doesn't realize how much time is passing!

Gotta run downstairs and add fabric softener and then will make a mold I hope!

Terri WC
:salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Hello all. Terri is downstairs in the process of making the mold for the left wing. 1st casting should be revealed in a few hours. ;)

[BlueSquad2001]

Photos.....Molds in the making tonight and they are really well done. All visible falws in parts have been brought up to near perfection for smoothness and sharp detail. Terri really assited in the clay build up of the left wing and assisted in perfect measuring... :D she's a chemist and stuff! ;)
The molds are being formed and here are silly pics of such. Think I'll do the next wing standing in mold box instead of flat, give your opinion of whih you think would be best. ;)
http://tinypic.com/hw048n.jpg


http://tinypic.com/hw03u0.jpg

will present pics of molded components later tonight. :salute:

[WarriorChemist]

I feel a little bit better now about being able to actually contribute to something! This is our first time to make a mold and since the supplies were so expensive, I was worried about wasting even a drop! It's great to get that "first time" over with so that we now know what to expect. I estimated how much we'd need by calculating the volume of the box itself. The actual piece being molded is just a wing, so I ignored its displacement of volume for the sake of being conservative. My estimates told me that we'd have barely enough mixture to do the vertical stabilizer mold. After Michael poured it in there was a little bit left. Then I remembered that he had made a little box of greeblies to mold, so I ran and got it and he filled it up. Even if the greeblie box hadn't been ready, Michael would have had time to make one because there's a 30 minute working time for the molding material.

Next we'll do the actual casting of the parts and I'm a little nervous about it working out. The work time after mixing the liquids together is very short. Again, I don't want to waste any because the stuff is so expensive (even after getting it at 40% off.) I do expect the casting to be easier than the acutal making of the mold.

Michael will post pictures of the casted vertical stabilizer, hopefully later tonight! ;)

[Darrell Lawrence]

I's sure like to see an article on how to do this type of modeling... *notes that the Articles section of the site is rather... empty*

[BlueSquad2001]

I's sure like to see an article on how to do this type of modeling... *notes that the Articles section of the site is rather... empty*
Hey Warrior. Molded pics are :salute: about to be posted. It is DONE! Success has been achieved in our casting. :salute:

SUCCESS

[BlueSquad2001]

Molded Master Parts to be further refined for the sharpest detail we can achieve.
Terri did a great job, and learned alot about (pot life) :D
This is going to be a great kit, and original. Keeping TOS dream alive and well. And yes, the sprue and any flash will definately not be there when you get you kit. :D
http://tinypic.com/hwctig.jpg

http://tinypic.com/hwctpl.jpg :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Here is a pic of the (final) canopy shape. Am building it now at 12:55 a.m.
This is cool I'm happy with it after making about 5 before coming to this. :salute:

http://tinypic.com/hwehk5.jpg

[WarriorChemist]

Terri did a great job, and learned alot about (pot life)

Yes I did. I had done too much reading about other products and for some reason thought that the resin we were working with had a pot life of 3 minutes - not 90 seconds! It turned white while we were still pouring. :mad: It's quite amazing to watch it change so rapidly!

Last night I ordered supplies in bulk and the new stuff has a longer pot life. I think it's around 5-7 minutes. Of course the set-up time takes hours rather than minutes, but that's a sacrifice we're willing to make. I also believe that with a longer set-up time more bubbles can escape before it sets. :nervous:

[spcglider]

Something you can do to extend your pot-life is to actually chill one half of the resin in the refrigerator. The big trouble with this is the condensation caused by the warm-up inside the container when you take it out. urethanes DO NOT LIKE moisture. Atmospheric moisture is what causes most resins to go bad after a while. ALSO: Have you been privvy to my article concerning urthane resins? If you haven't I will post the text here. Urethanes are your friend as long as you respect them. But if you don't, you WILL get ill.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

Something you can do to extend your pot-life is to actually chill one half of the resin in the refrigerator. The big trouble with this is the condensation caused by the warm-up inside the container when you take it out. urethanes DO NOT LIKE moisture. Atmospheric moisture is what causes most resins to go bad after a while. ALSO: Have you been privvy to my article concerning urthane resins? If you haven't I will post the text here. Urethanes are your friend as long as you respect them. But if you don't, you WILL get ill.

-Gordon
Yes, if you would, please post your article, so not only I, but others can read it as well. Casting (GREEBLIES) today. :D

[spcglider]

Here's the low-down: Urethane, when it cures, releases Isocyanate gasses. Sound familiar? That's because the root word is Cyanaide... poison.

Isocyanates are long-term poisons that build up in your system. Your body will try very hard to get rid of them, but they don't like to go easily. Exposure to them (even regulated exposure) wil eventually cause them to build up in your body and make you ill.

The amount that it takes varies from person to person, and the time it takes to build up in your body varies as well. But over time, you WILL develop a sensitivity to them.

Typical symptoms include: shortness of breath (induced athsma), skin rashes, itching, throat irritation, dizziness, and oddly enough, back pain. Other, less obvious effects are irritability, short temper, and even paranoia.

But like I mentioned, this all varies from person to person.

Example: My boss Dave got a massive exposure to urethane several years ago. He can no longer be in the building when we pour resins or he immediately goes into athsmatic arrest. I have been exposed over the course of 12 years. I get skin rashes, back pains, and athsmatic attacks when I'm exposed. But my boss Mike can work with the stuff unprotected after 12 years and has no obvious effects. On the extreme end, I personally had a friend who committed suicide after long-term chronic exposure. First he tried to commit suicide by police officer. Eventually he just did it himself. His diaries indicated a long-term paranoia that coincided almost perfectly with his unprotected exposure to urethane. Did he have other problems? Yes. But I sincerely believe that the situation was spurred on by chemical influence.

So, how to avoid all this? Easy:

1) get yourself a NIOSH approved filter mask with the biggest, most ass-kicking filter cartridges you can buy. Make sure your catridges are the highest rated ones you can get. They won't completely protect you, but they will help limit the exposure through your lungs.

2) set up your workspace so that you are cross-ventilating to the OUTDOORS. This means you need to have a CONSTANT flow of air running through your space. Clean air must enter at one end and fume-y air must be vented out the other end. Be sure you don't vent right into an area that supplies air to another house or building. Your fumes will just get sucked up and deposited into their space.

3) always wear latex (or if you're allegic to latex) nitrile gloves when handling the urethane components or the mixed combo. Not only can Isocyanates enter your body through the lungs as fumes, but they also affect you through the skin. Be sure to get yourself some of those disposable tyvec jumpsuits they use when they paint cars. It'll keep you from wrecking your clothing.

4) Use and Do all the stuff above. Also: DO NOT do this IN YOUR HOUSE. There is a reason why these things are called "garage kits" by hobbyists. Its getting to the cold seasons of the year, so I suggest you make a spot in your garage and set up space-heaters to keep the place warm. PLEASE... I'm BEGGING YOU. DON'T DO THIS IN YOUR BASEMENT OR HOUSE.

5) If you feel like you've started to show any of the signs of overexposure, you need to get away from the stuff. Take a break from it for at least two weeks. In the mean time, you can exercise and pump your lungs good and hard...run, bike, whatever. Drink ALOT of water. It helps your body get rid of the toxins. And best of all, get thee to a sauna. Especially after you workout. A sauna will force you to sweat alot and encourage your body to expell the toxins that way.

Now, about your resin. If you weren't given a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) when you bought it, you should go back there and get one. Every chemical available to the populace MUST have an accompanying MSDS. It is the law. Read the MSDS carefully and it will probably tell you the make-up of your paint system. If you have any questions at all, just pick up the phone and call the manufacturer. They will be happy to answer your questions about the specific product.

Last but not least: Don't think you're invulnerable because it doesn't affect you right away. Use the protection from the start and you WILL stay healthy.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

Here's the low-down: Urethane, when it cures, releases Isocyanate gasses. Sound familiar? That's because the root word is Cyanaide... poison.

Isocyanates are long-term poisons that build up in your system. Your body will try very hard to get rid of them, but they don't like to go easily. Exposure to them (even regulated exposure) wil eventually cause them to build up in your body and make you ill.

The amount that it takes varies from person to person, and the time it takes to build up in your body varies as well. But over time, you WILL develop a sensitivity to them.

Typical symptoms include: shortness of breath (induced athsma), skin rashes, itching, throat irritation, dizziness, and oddly enough, back pain. Other, less obvious effects are irritability, short temper, and even paranoia.

But like I mentioned, this all varies from person to person.

Example: My boss Dave got a massive exposure to urethane several years ago. He can no longer be in the building when we pour resins or he immediately goes into athsmatic arrest. I have been exposed over the course of 12 years. I get skin rashes, back pains, and athsmatic attacks when I'm exposed. But my boss Mike can work with the stuff unprotected after 12 years and has no obvious effects. On the extreme end, I personally had a friend who committed suicide after long-term chronic exposure. First he tried to commit suicide by police officer. Eventually he just did it himself. His diaries indicated a long-term paranoia that coincided almost perfectly with his unprotected exposure to urethane. Did he have other problems? Yes. But I sincerely believe that the situation was spurred on by chemical influence.

So, how to avoid all this? Easy:

1) get yourself a NIOSH approved filter mask with the biggest, most ass-kicking filter cartridges you can buy. Make sure your catridges are the highest rated ones you can get. They won't completely protect you, but they will help limit the exposure through your lungs.

2) set up your workspace so that you are cross-ventilating to the OUTDOORS. This means you need to have a CONSTANT flow of air running through your space. Clean air must enter at one end and fume-y air must be vented out the other end. Be sure you don't vent right into an area that supplies air to another house or building. Your fumes will just get sucked up and deposited into their space.

3) always wear latex (or if you're allegic to latex) nitrile gloves when handling the urethane components or the mixed combo. Not only can Isocyanates enter your body through the lungs as fumes, but they also affect you through the skin. Be sure to get yourself some of those disposable tyvec jumpsuits they use when they paint cars. It'll keep you from wrecking your clothing.

4) Use and Do all the stuff above. Also: DO NOT do this IN YOUR HOUSE. There is a reason why these things are called "garage kits" by hobbyists. Its getting to the cold seasons of the year, so I suggest you make a spot in your garage and set up space-heaters to keep the place warm. PLEASE... I'm BEGGING YOU. DON'T DO THIS IN YOUR BASEMENT OR HOUSE.

5) If you feel like you've started to show any of the signs of overexposure, you need to get away from the stuff. Take a break from it for at least two weeks. In the mean time, you can exercise and pump your lungs good and hard...run, bike, whatever. Drink ALOT of water. It helps your body get rid of the toxins. And best of all, get thee to a sauna. Especially after you workout. A sauna will force you to sweat alot and encourage your body to expell the toxins that way.

Now, about your resin. If you weren't given a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) when you bought it, you should go back there and get one. Every chemical available to the populace MUST have an accompanying MSDS. It is the law. Read the MSDS carefully and it will probably tell you the make-up of your paint system. If you have any questions at all, just pick up the phone and call the manufacturer. They will be happy to answer your questions about the specific product.

Last but not least: Don't think you're invulnerable because it doesn't affect you right away. Use the protection from the start and you WILL stay healthy.

-Gordon
This is the BEST information on the subject I've ever read! Thank You! :salute:

[spcglider]

When the safety of fellow warriors is at stake, you don't mince words! :salute:

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

When the safety of fellow warriors is at stake, you don't mince words! :salute:

-Gordon
Between us, I don't think we should have poured our first tests on the kitchen counter. Oooops! :wtf: :wtf:
Terri has asthma, and shortly there after, she was having an attack, maybe it's not related, but better safe than sorry the next time around. :...:

[Darrell Lawrence]

Mike, pieces look great!

Gordon, THAT may be a good article for the Articles section as well ;)

[BlueSquad2001]

Mike, pieces look great!

Gordon, THAT may be a good article for the Articles section as well ;)
Give a call today if possible. We are about to move forward with what we spoke about. :D

[WarriorChemist]

Thank you Gordon... I really appreciate the article. What I can't believe is that there was no mention of this in the instructions that came with the molding and casting kits!

I didn't think anything of it when I had an asthma attack later because I've been having them a lot lately anyway. They had almost stopped but then I got pneumonia earlier this year and my lungs haven't been right since.

Last night after we did the casting, I vacuumed the whole house, upstairs and down, cleaning baseboards, under the beds, closets, etc. I figured that overexerting myself had caused the attack. I'm sure the fumes didn't help any.

Thanks again for the article! :salute:

[peter noble]

I didn't think anything of it when I had an asthma attack later because I've been having them a lot lately anyway. They had almost stopped but then I got pneumonia earlier this year and my lungs haven't been right since.

I too suffer from asthma, so you have my complete sympathy and understanding. In the UK asthma sufferers can have a pneumonia injection that lasts 10 years when they have their flu injection.

Can't you not have the same thing in the US?

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

Battlestar Galactica (GREEBLIES) for detail of the finest sort. Buy, what I had to go through to get these important bits. These will also be offered for sale. :salute: And yes, that is my (blood) in the left hane corner...OUCH! :rotf:

http://tinypic.com/hwl8n4.jpg

[Gemini1999]

I recognize one "greebly".....

It's on the bottom just left of center. It's white, with four round bits with a stick-like projection holding them all together.

It's an antenna from the Apollo Spacecraft Service Module. I built so many of those when I was a kid, I would know that thing anywhere!

[BlueSquad2001]

I recognize one "greebly".....

It's on the bottom just left of center. It's white, with four round bits with a stick-like projection holding them all together.

It's an antenna from the Apollo Spacecraft Service Module. I built so many of those when I was a kid, I would know that thing anywhere!
You are very correct. Had to hunt like hell to find this kit. It was used as a part on top of the colonial blaster, toward the rear of it. In the pic, there are tons of Viper parts, shuttle, battlestar, cylon raider, pistol...and the list goes on and on and on...... ;)

[Griffworks]

No disassemble Terri! :eek:

That's all a part of what I was trying to warn you guys about w/the stuff being considered hazardous, especially for disposal purposes. Don't even think about sanding the stuff w/o some sort of face mask and eye gear! It gets in the lungs and you can cough it up hours or even days later. I know of a couple of guys who've said they were sick w/teh stuff and continued blowing it out their nose for the better part of a week once.

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Mike and Griff,

Total novice question but I've been interested in this stuff for a while.

Where would the total novice go to start learning how to do this?


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

Hi Sandy,

This is Terri posting for Michael. Just wanted you to know that Michael said you could call him about this. I sent you a private message with his number.

Terri
:salute:

[Griffworks]

For an online tutorial, I recommend visiting Starship Modeler.com's Site Map (http://www.starshipmodeler.com/site.htm). Scroll down to the "Scratchbuilding" section. The fifth entry down is Molds & Casting For Beginners (http://www.starshipmodeler.com/basics/jc_molds.htm) which should help a lot as well.

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Griff,

Thanks.

Terri,

Thanks and looking forward to talking with you guys again.


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

Griff,

Thanks.

Terri,

Thanks and looking forward to talking with you guys again.


Sandy
Good Morning Sandy! Still working on the Viper. Adding final detail to the aft engine section, and detailing the ribs on the cans. Can you send the items discussed over the phone earlier? It would be a FANTASTIC addition to this Advanced Viper. :D :salute:
BTW....can anyone help with studio scale Cylon Raider Dimensions? What might it be in comparison to TOS scale? Wing length tip to tip, Front to back? Or if one of you CGI guru's could do a size comparison sketch of a raider to the studio scale, would be a big help. :wtf:

[WarriorChemist]

Michael will finally get to post something in the Artwork - FINISHED section before long! :viper2:

This is a big accomplishment. He has spent countless hours on this project. :D

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Good Morning Sandy! Still working on the Viper. Adding final detail to the aft engine section, and detailing the ribs on the cans. Can you send the items discussed over the phone earlier? It would be a FANTASTIC addition to this Advanced Viper. :D :salute:
BTW....can anyone help with studio scale Cylon Raider Dimensions? What might it be in comparison to TOS scale? Wing length tip to tip, Front to back? Or if one of you CGI guru's could do a size comparison sketch of a raider to the studio scale, would be a big help. :wtf:

I can do all of this but it might take a couple of days. I have the studio scale raider model and can take measurements for you.

Will do the renders and get them off to you as well.

If you don't get them by the end of the weekend, kick me in the butt and remind me.


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

I can do all of this but it might take a couple of days. I hae the studio scale raider model and can take measurements for you.

Will do the renders and get them off to you as well.

If you don't get them by the end of the weekend, kick me in the butt and remind me.


Sandy
Hi Sandy.
Trying to get some things finished on the DeSanto and cast. Next project that I'd like to get cast, and the body is finished, ie the DeSanto advanced Raider. I'd like to start by monday finishing her up. Will wait for your renderings and measurments. You'll LOVE this Raider model, and want a few! That's our next project folks, and it'll be BIG! New Raider, and it's already started. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: HERE'S SOME SHOTS OF THE MASTER BUILD-UP WITH THE STUDIO SCALE! :colonial:
this is a pic showing the master parts being test fitted and side by side with TOS studio scale. The detail is really being added now, and only a couple of days work left till completion. Thanks to all of you for your help and inspiration to pick this project back up after over a year gathering dust. It was almost thrown away a few months back. Thanks to Mark Bradley, for talking me into dusting her off and offering her to all of you. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/i1wsae.jpg

http://tinypic.com/i1wsd3.jpg

http://tinypic.com/i1xxtz.jpg

[TwoBrainedCylon]

That looks about right given the comparisons of the cockpit but it also brings up the question of just how this thing would get down the launch tube. Given DeSanto's premise, that they were built in secret and then launched in a surprise move to counter the new Cylon threat, the launch tubes would have had to have been dismantled and rebuilt for each of these.

A nitpick to be sure but I think of these things.

Very nice work on the model however.


Sandy

[peter noble]

http://tinypic.com/i1xxtz.jpg[/QUOTE]

I'm liking that view!

Kudos to Mark B for bending your ear about continuing the project.

Hope Tom D gets to see a finished piece, I bet it'd knock him out of his socks!

[BlueSquad2001]

That looks about right given the comparisons of the cockpit but it also brings up the question of just how this thing would get down the launch tube. Given DeSanto's premise, that they were built in secret and then launched in a surprise move to counter the new Cylon threat, the launch tubes would have had to have been dismantled and rebuilt for each of these.

A nitpick to be sure but I think of these things.

Very nice work on the model however.


Sandy
Hey, uh..Sandy, where do you get these stories? I've never heard or read them anywhere. Where can I read the story? Oh and by the way, the ideas on what you said was thought provoking. But...this viper is not that much different to TOS viper. Although yes, the stabilizer is taller and the wings farther out, I would think that only minor changes would be made to the launch tubes? Maybe I'm wrong about this. But it's gonna be a cool kit. When I began the assembly of the components, I was so thrilled that they all fit just right, and looks about dead on to the DeSanto model we've all seen pics of. I can't wait to do a resin build-up and paint and detail this thing for our add. Oh also, the viper is a little over 15 1/2". Exact measurements in a little while, when I get around to it. I've created the markings in the same style as TOS, but have added alterations and new emblems to be placed on her, that I think will have die hard fans very pleased. I hope. :D

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Yet, while his fellow humans have reveled in food, drink, and endless pleasure, Orin has prepared for such a disaster. In an apparently foolish act, he rallies the remaining crew and powers up the damaged Galactica.

Swinging the vessel about, he maneuvers her to engage the threatening Basestar. The new Cylon command ship easily outmatches the weathered Galactica, but Orin has a secret. He has developed a new generation of Viper fighters that he has kept hidden from the Council of the 12. These launch from the Galactica and engage the advanced Cylon raiders. They prove to be as effective in their design as anything the Cylons have. Unfortunately, there are too few of them to completely turn the tide of battle. The Colonial warriors inflict serious blows to the Cylon fighter fleet but the basestar's firepower is overwhelming.

From http://www.cylon.org/bsg/desanto-revival01.html .


As for the model itself, I think you have the dimensions correct. My comment was more technical for the planned story and original design not on the work you're doing. Like I said, its a nitpick.


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

http://tinypic.com/i1xxtz.jpg

I'm liking that view!

Kudos to Mark B for bending your ear about continuing the project.

Hope Tom D gets to see a finished piece, I bet it'd knock him out of his socks![/QUOTE]
Thank You so much Peter, I hope you'll be happy with yours. Stay in touch please. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

MORE VIPER PICS

http://tinypic.com/i20kfr.jpg

http://tinypic.com/i20kjr.jpg

:salute: Special thanks to my lady, whom stood by me the entire time and cheered me on. I Love you Terri. :love: :rose:

[BlueSquad2001]

From http://www.cylon.org/bsg/desanto-revival01.html .


As for the model itself, I think you have the dimensions correct. My comment was more technical for the planned story and original design not on the work you're doing. Like I said, its a nitpick.


Sandy
Thank- You so much Sandy.
Will be in touch in the evening. :salute:

[peter noble]

According to Roger Sides' article (he used to own a lot of the models and props) in Sci-Fi & Fantasy Models Magazine, the Cylon Rider model was 17 inches wide, 12 and a quarter inches long and 3 and a half inches deep, making it 1/35th scale.

Best,

Peter

[Darrell Lawrence]

Looking good, Mike!

I'm unavailable today or tomorrow to call, but I'll give you a ring on Friday if possible (whacky new scheduling).

[CPO Harvey]

I'll start off by admitting that I know VERY little about designing a starship....BUT...I was thinking that having the gun ports so close to the cockpit would disrupt the pilots vision...I mean if the pilot is using the cockpit windows for any "line of sight" flying and shooting, that the muzzle flash would really mess him up.....just a thought....anyway.....LOVE the TOS Viper parked behind the "newer"version.....Great looking models....don't think that I'll be able to afford them...heavy bummer :salute:

[Griffworks]

I got to see this model today in it's nearly completed state - minus one of the wings that was still in-the-mold. Looks better than the last time I saw it on Saturday!

Decal art also looks good, too! :Nsmilie:

From http://www.cylon.org/bsg/desanto-revival01.html .


As for the model itself, I think you have the dimensions correct. My comment was more technical for the planned story and original design not on the work you're doing. Like I said, its a nitpick.
With respect, I think the only area that the DeSanto Viper "doesn't work" in the launch tubes is the vertical stabilizer. I agree w/Michael that it might be too tall for the cutouts that we see in the launch tubes. I re-watched a couple of TOS episodes today specifically to look for that and there's plenty of room around the engines and wings, by the looks of things. The DeSanto Viper that Michael has made lines up nicely w/the Studio Scale TOS Viper he's got accept for the vertical stab height.

Just sayin' and not trying to start a feud. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

I got to see this model today in it's nearly completed state - minus one of the wings that was still in-the-mold. Looks better than the last time I saw it on Saturday!

Decal art also looks good, too! :Nsmilie:


With respect, I think the only area that the DeSanto Viper "doesn't work" in the launch tubes is the vertical stabilizer. I agree w/Michael that it might be too tall for the cutouts that we see in the launch tubes. I re-watched a couple of TOS episodes today specifically to look for that and there's plenty of room around the engines and wings, by the looks of things. The DeSanto Viper that Michael has made lines up nicely w/the Studio Scale TOS Viper he's got accept for the vertical stab height.

Just sayin' and not trying to start a feud. :salute:
That sounds correct to me Jeff. Are you up by the way? I'm looking on the internet for Colonial Cubits...Where do I get them???? :wtf:

[Griffworks]

Got in about half an hour ago and have been skimming forums briefly.

Try Intergalactica Trading (http://www.intergalactictrading.com/). I know I've seen them there in the past.

Ooh! Found 'em! (http://www.intergalactictrading.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart/store/prod_det.html?L+itc+qrmz0521+_DProd_02BGMI01_2fF_01)

Here's the page I found them on. (http://www.intergalactictrading.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart/store/products.html?L+itc+qrmz0521=)

[BlueSquad2001]

Got in about half an hour ago and have been skimming forums briefly.

Try Intergalactica Trading (http://www.intergalactictrading.com/). I know I've seen them there in the past.

Ooh! Found 'em! (http://www.intergalactictrading.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart/store/prod_det.html?L+itc+qrmz0521+_DProd_02BGMI01_2fF_01)

Here's the page I found them on.
Give me a call if you're up. :salute:

[Griffworks]

Nah, dude. I need to head to bed. Got an early morning to get up for. I'll give you a holler at some point in the morning after 9am, probably.

[TwoBrainedCylon]

With respect, I think the only area that the DeSanto Viper "doesn't work" in the launch tubes is the vertical stabilizer. I agree w/Michael that it might be too tall for the cutouts that we see in the launch tubes. I re-watched a couple of TOS episodes today specifically to look for that and there's plenty of room around the engines and wings, by the looks of things. The DeSanto Viper that Michael has made lines up nicely w/the Studio Scale TOS Viper he's got accept for the vertical stab height.

Just sayin' and not trying to start a feud. :salute:

If you think that starts a fight with me you understand very little about me.

I haven't checked the video as it was a passing thought. Seeing the models side-by-side might give a better idea as well. The picture I was going off of is the one where the DS Viper was in the foreground and it seemed that overall it was slightly larger than the standard viper.

If its just the top fin, that wouldn't be a hard change to make to the ship.

I'm envious of your guy's talent.


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

If you think that starts a fight with me you understand very little about me.

I haven't checked the video as it was a passing thought. Seeing the models side-by-side might give a better idea as well. The picture I was going off of is the one where the DS Viper was in the foreground and it seemed that overall it was slightly larger than the standard viper.

If its just the top fin, that wouldn't be a hard change to make to the ship.

I'm envious of your guy's talent.


Sandy
Thank You Sandy! :salute:
Advanced Raider Pics and new thread about to be started today. I hope you'll love what I've done so far, but must have alot of pics and cgi stuff as well as drawings or just whatever is available. Contact me when you can. :salute:

[Griffworks]

No new thread nor pics...? :Nsad:

[BlueSquad2001]

No new thread nor pics...? :Nsad:

Well, I worked on the Viper until 12:40 this morning, (Thurs) then tried to get some sleep, and ended waking back up at 4:30 a.m. (Thurs) and have bben going at it untill 10:00 this evening. Now, I'm finally eating...because I had forgotten to today, and finally I'll get to bed at about 12:30 or so this a.m. (Fri). I'm not real quick to just throwing pics up, things and planets have to be aligned just right ;)
I'll get around to it tomorrow. Sorry all, but just too tired now. :salute:

[Griffworks]

It's all good! :Nsalute:

[Palafox73]

interstiing vipers strange but i like them :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

interstiing vipers strange but i like them :thumbsup:

I may not understand what you meant by strange, :D but your post kinda gives me the impression that you're unaware of the DeSanto revival and the advanced viper? This is the viper in the Tom DeSanto continution project that got #$@%'ed up, and never became....still hoping for it though :salute: There are huge articles over at cylon.org and if you do not know of this effort, it'll be worth you taking a look. Great photos and story ideas. :wtf:

[Darrell Lawrence]

You awake for a call, or shall I wait? ;)

[Palafox73]

i went to the site and checked out the story line and its intersting. wouldnt mind seeing it even if its fan based. what i ment by strange is that the adv viper has this new curve on it and kind of strange seeing it that way since all that i remeber is a viper with lots of coners.

[BlueSquad2001]

NEWS..... :viper: ....NEWS..... :viper: ....NEWS ! ! !

This is beyond what one would call AWESOME!
TOM DESANTO HAS TAKEN AN INTEREST IN MY VIPER MODEL!

Here's the truth of it from Commander Taggert and Peter Noble.
I don't know if this was too forward of me, but I sent a picture of your
DeSanto Viper to Tom DeSanto via my fellow cylon.org co-owner (Commander Taggart).

Tom says it's "awesome" btw.

Anyway, I let him know you're doing the DeSanto Raider next and if he had
any more picture other than the one at our website.

Tom says he'll try and find it but if you want him to talk you through the
design his office number is %$$$$$$$..

Hope this helps.

Best,

Peter
And then more information fromPeter.
Tom's exact words were:

> Hey Bill that is awesome and I will help whatever way
> I can. I will look for the other artwork i have or if
> they want I can squueeze in some time to talk them
> through the design.

and:

> If you want you can give him my office number and I
> can talk him through it while i am tracking down thse
> images.

This gets better here with a note this a.m. from Commander Taggert.
I can confirm that everything Peter told you is legit
Like you, Tom is an artist... and I'm sure he was legitimately impressed by the quality of your work-in-progress model. Universal never got around to making a complete one, eh? So... this is the first time, I guess, he's seen his vison realized this far?
This is beyond anything I was imagining when I set out to do this project. And thanks from my heart to Peter Noble and Commander Taggert! I am very appreciative for both of your interest in my model as well as Tom DeSanto. The messages above are only portions of information that recieved, and can't give the rest naturally. Will post a complete story after my talk with Tom...right here.
On the models progress. I've been finishing the aft engine area (where all the piping and detail are) and designing a new added feature that will knock your socks off. The 1st ever studio scale viper with a canopy that opens and closes. The opening mechanism features telescoping and pivoting arm that raises and lowers smoothly, and has a snug fit. This is cool, and I developed this detail on one of my TOS studio scale vipers, to work out problems before offering it with me DeSanto viper. Pics are coming in a few minutes. Stand by! You're gonna love this. :D

[BlueSquad2001]

What will one unique feature be on the DeSanto Viper, that no other Studio Scale Viper has?
An opening and closing canopy!
I used one of my TOS studio scale vipers to be the designs tester. After 6 hours, of drawing measuring angles and pivot points as well as where the joints would be. And after a few failed attempts of trying to get this feature to work smoothly, but also reflect the detail of the original mechanism of the full size filming viper, it is a success!
This will be featured on the DeSanto Vipers and the detailing potential has just sky rocketed. I think alot of you will want to light up the instruments with fiber optics and backlit scanner. ;) I know I will.
Here's the prototype pics. We have recieved our casting supplies and will begin making the molds on Mon. Will continue to keep you all updated. Back to the bench now for me. :D

http://tinypic.com/i4lkz5.jpg

http://tinypic.com/i4lppw.jpg

[Griffworks]

Right on! :thumbsup:

[Gemini1999]

I'm really enjoying the updates and the pics. That's great news about being able to talk to Tom DeSanto about the design (I'd be on the ceiling if it was me!).

I love the functional design for the cockpit canopy. I've seen plenty with just a straightforward hinge, but never one that telesopes to make it fit right and mimic the actual canopy from the full size versions.

Keep up the excellent work!

Best,
Bryan

[BlueSquad2001]

I'm really enjoying the updates and the pics. That's great news about being able to talk to Tom DeSanto about the design (I'd be on the ceiling if it was me!).

I love the functional design for the cockpit canopy. I've seen plenty with just a straightforward hinge, but never one that telesopes to make it fit right and mimic the actual canopy from the full size versions.

Keep up the excellent work!

Best,
Bryan

Gemini and Griffworks, I really appreciate the compliments on this project. And it's just too cool that Tom DeSanto is excited about it, and that I'll talk with him in greater detail in the coming week about many things Galactica. I'll be sure that I get his personal approval on these models and the upcoming DeSanto Raider kit. It'll be a blast talking with the man about his designs and his artistry. Maybe see if I can ask him to get a photograph holding the custom build-up that I am preparing for him, after all the creator must own one of these babies. :D
For his compliments, Terri and I are dedicating a very special viper to him as a gift of thanks and appreciation. :salute: :colonial:

[Fragmentary]

Congratulations BlueSquad!
That's pretty frakin' awesome that you're getting to make the first real honest to goodness DeSanto viper and the man himself has taken an interest. What a great slice of Galactica history you've carved out for yourself. And best of all, it looks like you're rising to the challenge in a big way.

Way to represent the power of the fan! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Congratulations BlueSquad!
That's pretty frakin' awesome that you're getting to make the first real honest to goodness DeSanto viper and the man himself has taken an interest. What a great slice of Galactica history you've carved out for yourself. And best of all, it looks like you're rising to the challenge in a big way.

Way to represent the power of the fan! :salute:
Thank You Fragmentary. I am HONORED! I now know that there was a reason now that I did'nt just throw the pieces of this viper in the trash a few months ago. I am preparing right now my letter to DeSanto that will briefly address to him my take on this project, and I'm sure I'll uncover all sorts of pics and drawings that no one has yet to see on the net anywhere. He really wants to help with this, andguide me thru it all. When I recieve further details about this viper from him, if I feel like I just have to add that particular detail to the model, I'll be a day or two late casting it, but the cool thing is that it'll be details straight from the creator him self....and that is priceless. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:salute: :D :salute:

[brunoco]

great models. Nice to see the progress.

[BlueSquad2001]

great models. Nice to see the progress.
Thank You, I do appreciate the compliments, and am doing my best to give a GREAT MODEL! You won't be disappointed. We are working very hard fine tuning the master parts and preparing for molding today or tomorrow. :salute:

[WarriorChemist]

Last night I did some work on setting up and getting organized in hopes that we would start making molds today. I will try to take pictures of the process if anybody is interested. I don't want to bore anybody with too much information though!

Michael and I both appreciate the words of encouragement and all the helpful suggestions that people have sent to help us. This has been a lot of work and is really motivating to know that there are people out there that want to see the project reach completion. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

PROGRESS REPORT!
I had actually wanted to write this last night before I retired for the day. But I was exhausted. I had worked on this the entire day. It is 7:15 a.m. here now and I feel like letting all of you who are waiting to see the finished casting know what is happening. I'm having tea, and waking up! :rotf:
I know that we have delayed the molding process because some interesting points has arisen on how to do this most effectively for the cleanest castings possible. I had thought I had a way figured out of how to begin, and BIG THANKS goes to Jesse Meyers for spending alot of time with me on the phone long distance thinking this through, and looking at pics sent to him, just to help me mold this the best way. Mark Bradley has also been here for me, even though he is very busy and hard to reach, helping with this project. Also thanks goes to Spcglider, for helping through long distance calls and taking time from his busy life to help with the canopy molding. The drawings are fantastic ! Thank you all so much. :salute: And Peter Noble...Thanks, and you know why! ;)
Here it is. The ONLY thing left to do, is to finish detailing the aft engine section, you know...where all the piping is. And it is all complete and ready to mold the components. But, the nose section will be molded and cast in resin and from that first molding, the panel lines and final details will be cut into it, another mold made and voila! But this whole day will be spent, that is until the evening, detailing the engines and getting that nose ready.
Thank you all, and you have my e-mail address and number if you want to talk, give suggestions, or whatever you need. You know I answer swiftly. ;)
Thanks for all of your help on this.

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW MARKINGS AND PICS
This took time to come up with, but these are the "DEFINITIVE" marking for the Mk.IV Advanced Viper. I hope you all like 6this, as it keeps us closely in touch with the original series but adds to it but with noticable differences. I only have photoshopped this and added different weatherings to the engines to give myself an idea of where it needed to go. The are the final markings. Let's see if anyone can figure out what the small emblem is behind the stabilizer stripe? :D

http://tinypic.com/ibj5s7.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: NEWS ON DESANTO PROJECT!!! :colonial:

It is 1:04p.m. here in Ark, and Terri (warriorchemist) has just recieved a phone call from none other than Tom Desanto himself! :salute:
He took time out of his busy schedule of working on the upcoming Transformers movie to call me about the DeSanto Viper project among other things of interest to us both. These are just a few things that he made conversation about.
He said " I could'nt be more thrilled about the project, it looks really awesome." concerning his viper, and Advanced Cylon Raider that is coming up. Tom, I say that still with respect for him, because at first thing in the converstaion and introductions, he asked that I call him "Tom" anyway he stated that he is honored that I am making the masters of his viper and raider, and that he will be sending me never before seen images anywhere of these ships for help in my masters. I told him that we were about to begin the first castings of the viper and that we were going to honor him with a fully lit and built ship as a gift to him, for helping me personally in this endeavor. He tried to refuse saying that he did'nt want to except that from us, that he was just thrilled at my photos and that I was making them a reality. :salute: We insisted, and he finally accepted!
He gave me the thumbs up and his full approval of the projects, and he agreed happily to be photographed holding my viper and raider models for all the BSG fans to see. Tom wants everyone to be informed that he is behind my effort all the way. I have been given approval by Tom over these models of his and I and Terri are HONORED!!! We are thrilled to have this kind of backing, from the creator of this viper and raider. And we are overly thrilled to have been given so many minutes of his busy day.
He told me, right before we got off the phone, and I quote him respectfully.
"Tell all the Battlestar Galactica fans, that I have not given up, and am still working on getting a continuation project going. I'm still a big Galactica fan and am still going at it."
It was an honor to be told this, and a (serious) honor to be asked to be the one to get that message to you all here at the Fleets 1st! :salute:
He was very cool to talk with, and shared his personal e-mail information and we agreed to keep in touch and become better friends. Terri had fun talking with him also, and chatted about Hollywood. :D :wtf:
Very special thanks to Commander Taggert, and Peter Noble, that helped this become a reality and more than an honorable, experience.
You all are now getting the fully ( APPROVED ) DeSanto Mk.IV Viper. COOL! :salute:

[ernie90125]

I am very pleased for you to hear this.....Tom DeSanto seems a very down to earth gentleman who understands the fanbase. I have had indirect contact with him, and received a gentlemanly and supportive response.

Of all the plus points to have on our side, his support is one of the mail ones in our determination to get a Continuation. Its great he's got behind your viper project......

[peter noble]

Glad you got to talk to Tom D guys. He's way cool, always got time for the folks who pay for the tickets!

What sort of panel lines are you going to have on the body and will there be a version with landing gear in the future? ;)

Looking good folks, press it home!

Best,

Peter

[Griffworks]

Right on! :thumbsup:

You're DaMan! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Glad you got to talk to Tom D guys. He's way cool, always got time for the folks who pay for the tickets!

What sort of panel lines are you going to have on the body and will there be a version with landing gear in the future? ;)

Looking good folks, press it home!

Best,

Peter
Tom is having (many drawings) scanned at this time to e-mail and possibly some larger that he'll snail mail to me, on the viper and cylon raider. I'm waiting to see the final renderings for the viper and the warriors outfit, before finalizing my master to be molded. It will be a short wait to hear back from Tom, he's real thrilled about it. As for the landing gear, have actually already begun designing and concept building of this idea about 2 months ago, I think. But it was just too consuming at the time, and got back to priorities :(
But, who knows. I hope that I can work out the details and include this. Would all that pre-ordered be willing to give a little bit more time so that this could be accomplished? I'm already working on and opening canopy system to be built into the model. It's becoming a very ambitious project, and now that Tom is in full gear and watching it all unfold, I'm under pressure! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

I am very pleased for you to hear this.....Tom DeSanto seems a very down to earth gentleman who understands the fanbase. I have had indirect contact with him, and received a gentlemanly and supportive response.

Of all the plus points to have on our side, his support is one of the mail ones in our determination to get a Continuation. Its great he's got behind your viper project......
HE IS HELLBENT on a continuation, and it WILL HAPPEN! That is his promise, and it's his baby, along with this viper and modeling his raider, it has excited him. I can't get over how excited he was. :D

[ernie90125]

BlueSquad2001.......that's great to know.

My contact with him was about my idea of making a special edition version of 'The Return of Starbuck' without the Galactica1980 content. Instead it would include Continuation era scenes. You can read more about my idea in another thread in this forum.

However, I am concerned that anything I did, if it progressed to an official release, might cause minor continuity issues with his Continuation. In some ways I wonder if it is best to sit back and be a passenger and wait to see what he delivers.....but if we all did that many things would never get done. So that project, and my website (www.battlestarfanfilms.com) are my attempts to contribute to the BSG galaxy.

You've chosen a very different route. The reproduction of Continuation models....and again we see the excitment in Tom and the fanbase when someone comes along and makes part of a Continuation possible......

Good on....us all.......

[BlueSquad2001]

BlueSquad2001.......that's great to know.

My contact with him was about my idea of making a special edition version of 'The Return of Starbuck' without the Galactica1980 content. Instead it would include Continuation era scenes. You can read more about my idea in another thread in this forum.

However, I am concerned that anything I did, if it progressed to an official release, might cause minor continuity issues with his Continuation. In some ways I wonder if it is best to sit back and be a passenger and wait to see what he delivers.....but if we all did that many things would never get done. So that project, and my website (www.battlestarfanfilms.com) are my attempts to contribute to the BSG galaxy.

You've chosen a very different route. The reproduction of Continuation models....and again we see the excitment in Tom and the fanbase when someone comes along and makes part of a Continuation possible......

Good on....us all.......
Ernie, and all checking out this thread, I cannot, begin to word effectively his anxious and thrilled attitude towards the continuation. More than likely, he will be lurking here checking out the progress and reading the thread. ;)
But in any case, I have re-newed and even more powerful faith that his efforts and his plans for the continuation with original cast members will be done. I've put forth my best effort to communicate to him our dream, and it is also his! :salute:
I'll keep all here posted on our communications and all things Battlestar. ;)

[Fragmentary]

It's great that things are coming together this way. It's pretty cool to get to sit on the sidelines and watch this all play out. I'm eager to see what new light Tom's additional references might shine on the viper design. Of course, you've got to hope that it's nothing that will undermine any of the work you've done so far, although I'm sure that would have come up in the conversation with him if it would have... but on the other hand, you've got to kind of hope that there's a little extra something hidden in there that you can be the one to bring to light.

Man, I gotta be honest, part of the fun of this is just hearing how excited you are about this whole project. It really is infectious! Add to that, hearing that Tom is excited about it too, and it's probably the most interesting thing happening in world of Galactica at the moment.

I know I don't need to say this, but keep the updates coming.
:salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

It's great that things are coming together this way. It's pretty cool to get to sit on the sidelines and watch this all play out. I'm eager to see what new light Tom's additional references might shine on the viper design. Of course, you've got to hope that it's nothing that will undermine any of the work you've done so far, although I'm sure that would have come up in the conversation with him if it would have... but on the other hand, you've got to kind of hope that there's a little extra something hidden in there that you can be the one to bring to light.

Man, I gotta be honest, part of the fun of this is just hearing how excited you are about this whole project. It really is infectious! Add to that, hearing that Tom is excited about it too, and it's probably the most interesting thing happening in world of Galactica at the moment.

I know I don't need to say this, but keep the updates coming.
:salute:
The last 2 days has been nothing but excitement to the point of draining. LOL! Here are 2 parts of the e-mail just sent to us by Tom. And I really now know that BSG TOS will see the continuation as planned. Keep the faith! Right Peter? ;)

Tom DeSanto e-mail to Mike and Terri
"Thanks to both you and Michael for taking the time to
build the Viper. I really think Michael is a
wonderful artist and loved all his work particularly
the flying tiger painting just great stuff. I am
including some images which may help, including the
warrior flight suit and helmet designs. "
"Hope you enjoy the images and I am excited to put the
finished model on display in my office next to my
Cylon statue. Looking forward to seeing you both in
LA soon and saw your picture you both are a very cute
couple. Much happiness to you both always and thanks
for being part of those who believe in the show.

All the Best,
Tom

The images that I have been entrusted with are astounding to say the least! The DeSanto Viper that will be made will be to his approval, and we have decided to create sculpts of his pilot suit designs, figures will be male and female warriors. With color charts to accurately paint them. Tom will love this. :salute: I hope to continue stirring the excitment in him and his creativity I pray will become infectious also, for all fans! :colonial:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Great news. Good job Mike.

Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

Great news. Good job Mike.

Sandy
Thanks Sandy.
I never thought this project that was started over a year and a half ago and the shelved for such a long period, would generate this kind of excitement and interest, mainly from a person with such importance like Tom. I'm still hard at detailing the master, and getting it all right. :salute:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Really good efforts are still good, even if you have to shove them on the back burner for a while.

Quality overrides "newness" every time.


Sandy

[z28barry]

It's really great that Tom is on board and you are excited about it.
All the options you are mentioning seem interesting and will definitely add to the model.
I have a concern about all the options; will it up the price considerably?
I have already pre-ordered because it was within my grasp, but if options are being added on a regular basis, I can only guess that the price will jump.



Thanks, Barry. :)

[BlueSquad2001]

It's really great that Tom is on board and you are excited about it.
All the options you are mentioning seem interesting and will definitely add to the model.
I have a concern about all the options; will it up the price considerably?
I have already pre-ordered because it was within my grasp, but if options are being added on a regular basis, I can only guess that the price will jump.



Thanks, Barry. :)
Hey Barry.
We were at one point considering the option of landing gears with the model, but because the master was so close to completion, it was canned for the time. The only extra option that this will feature, unlike other vipers is the canopy being able to raise and lower. We will probably send the necessary components with instructions on how to instal this option if the modeler wishes to. But this is the only definate option that it will have right now. Thanks Barry. :salute:

[z28barry]

Very cool!
Can't wait to get the model in my hands.

Thanks, Barry.

[Griffworks]

I had the privilige of stopping by Bluesquad2001 and WarriorChemists place today and looking at this thing close up. Lookin' better all the time! I'm not much for studio scale kits due to lack of space for display, but I'm going to have to get me one of these!

Now, just gotta convince him to do one in 1/72 scale.... :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Thanks Jeffrey.
I really appreciate the compliments on this project. Am awaiting further shippments of casting materials. We had ordered some and after talking with Jesse, we came to the conclusion that we needed more. :wtf: Ouch!
More spent on this monster project! ;)

[spcglider]

Okay, I've been visiting the "mouse house" in Florida for the past 5 days, so I haven't been hanging around, but here goes....

a) Model is lookin REALLY groovy. Hope all is going well with the molding and casting. If you need any other tips or tricks, just give me a call.

b) If Mr. DeSanto is reading, please note that I'd be happy to help with all aspects of a continuation project (I run a special effects studio here in Minneapolis, hint hint hint, and can make hand props at the drop of a hat).

Anyway, its all looking really fine. I'm excited to get mine.

-Gordon

[z28barry]

Need some updates to see the progress, please. :)

[Griffworks]

Last I heard from BlueSquad2001 & WarriorChemist, there were some Real World things that came up for BlueSquad2001 that are going to keep him "out of pocket" for a little while. Emergency type stuff, which is why we've not seen anything new in... what, a week? I'm sure once things have settled down we'll be getting reports again. I'll give them a call in a day or two after giving them some more time.

I know that they've got all the mold-making materials they need, but that BlueSquad2001 was going to make a pull of the main fuselage section so he could do the scribe work there. Aves Epoxy putty - or whatever it was that he used to build it up - doesn't take well to scribing, as it cracks and flacks badly. Resin, on the other hand, is a fairly decent medium to work with if you take it slow and don't push down too hard.

Hey, felgercarb happens, right? ;)

There's also the saying that Slow and Steady Wins The Race. I've no doubts that once complete, it'll be awesome. Just give the time for it to be finished right the first time. :)

[dilbertman]

Tom is having (many drawings) scanned at this time to e-mail and possibly some larger that he'll snail mail to me, on the viper and cylon raider. I'm waiting to see the final renderings for the viper and the warriors outfit, before finalizing my master to be molded. It will be a short wait to hear back from Tom, he's real thrilled about it. As for the landing gear, have actually already begun designing and concept building of this idea about 2 months ago, I think. But it was just too consuming at the time, and got back to priorities :(
But, who knows. I hope that I can work out the details and include this. Would all that pre-ordered be willing to give a little bit more time so that this could be accomplished? I'm already working on and opening canopy system to be built into the model. It's becoming a very ambitious project, and now that Tom is in full gear and watching it all unfold, I'm under pressure! :D

YES! Take all the time you need, just keep us updated.

Jim :thumbsup: :) :eek: :muffit: :beer: :colada: :drool:

[BlueSquad2001]

:D I'M BACK!!!!! :salute:

And the show must go on. So hey, all that wish to talk and that have pre-ordered, then just give an e-mail, or a call and I'll be glad to update you on what, where, why, and definatly when all of it comes together. In the a.m., I'll give a complete description, just enough though to :cry: upset the "real pro" modelers, and to get you all ready for the pics coming forth. I can't wait to post my full build-up pics. Thanks to "ALL" of you that have kept up and kept my heart racing to this finish line. I'd love to talk to you all. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: NEW DETAIL PIC :colonial:

Okay, here's the final and complete rear engine detailing, and yes, I obscured parts and only allow a shadowy glimpse. Don't want the entire details out until she hits your mailbox. :wtf:
So..to all that has waited and demanded pics, here's a good one. The details are a step up from the original series, with a very close similarity, as it would hae been in this DeSanto continuation. Alot of the same kit parts are used as well as some details that are not from kits. Molding began last night and opics are a day awy from the board here. Thanks to all for sticking by me, and believeing ;) And to all those in doubt........... :D
http://tinypic.com/iz1coi.jpg

[peter noble]

That's going to look lovely on my launch rail! ;)

[BlueSquad2001]

Thanks Peter! :salute:
and the engine cans are almost complete, and will be molded separate.
And yes, you must glue them in! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: :salute: NEWS!! :salute: :colonial:

Here it IS! The first fuselage casting. :D From here, it will be detailed with panel lines (ala) DeSanto, and then all systems are a go. But man I must say that the casting is bubble free. :wtf: I don't know how....But it is. Nice and clean lines! :D
http://tinypic.com/iz4w8h.jpg

[Aussieviper]

Wow Bluesquad, that is outstanding! :salute: I can't wait until mine comes 'down under!' She will look great next to the other studio scale Vipers. Thank you so much for doing an awesome job on a great subject. Sorry if this has been answered, but is there a pilot with it? Merry Christmas from Australia! Cheers, Chris

[BlueSquad2001]

Wow Bluesquad, that is outstanding! :salute: I can't wait until mine comes 'down under!' She will look great next to the other studio scale Vipers. Thank you so much for doing an awesome job on a great subject. Sorry if this has been answered, but is there a pilot with it? Merry Christmas from Australia! Cheers, Chris
Hey Chris!! I know You!! :salute: LOL! :rotf:
Good to hear from you. And about the pilot...we are exploring getting the actual pressure suited DeSanto design going. New suit, and new helmet. Will be working on this today to see where we are at. I'm hoping for pics on this subject soon. Thanks for being a friend Chris, and hope all is well with you down under this Christmas! :salute:
Keep in touch.

[Griffworks]

I got to see both the fuselage casting - very nicely done for their first large object! - and the work he's put in to sculpting the pilot's helmet. Awesome job so far and I know that everybody's going to like it. BlueSquad2001 has put in a lot of sweat and blood for this project - especially blood, he says. :eek:

[BlueSquad2001]

:salute: Merry Christmas to all at the Fleets! :salute:
It is 7:32 p.m. here and I have been working on the viper for the most part of the day. The panel lines are about finished and photos of the work are coming by tomorrow. As well as we have been sculpting the pilots helmet and pics will be coming on that also. I've gotten alot done this holiday, and still will continue to work until completed and sent to all that have pre-paid! It's coming fast. :D

[dilbertman]

Merry X-mas BlueSquad2001

Glad to hear the Viper is coming along okay. BTW, did you get the DeSanto stuff yet? Now someone needs to do a Ship of Lights that lights up so I can put on top of my X-mas tree next year.

Jim :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Merry X-mas BlueSquad2001

Glad to hear the Viper is coming along okay. BTW, did you get the DeSanto stuff yet? Now someone needs to do a Ship of Lights that lights up so I can put on top of my X-mas tree next year.

Jim :salute:
Yes, we recieved some great stuff. Very important to this project. Thanks for keeping up with us Jim.\
Pics of paneled viper coming up in a few minutes. Stand by. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: New Progress Pic!! :colonial:
Here are the panel lines detailed into the fuselage. Tonight, we are molding the intake section, paneled fuselage, and aft engine section. Ater that, the wings are ready to mold as well as the final design for the vertical stab. Here we go. Am looking to have a FULL MOLDED build-up pic by Thurs or Fri. And we will be casting kits possibly by Wd or Thurs, here they come! We are thrilled! :D
http://tinypic.com/j7qlwh.jpg

[dilbertman]

Glad to hear you got the stuff from Tom. Really looking forward to seeing/getting this when your done. Maybe going to LA in the next few weeks? Hope to see Tom if he has time? You know he's doing that movie thing right now.

Jim :muffit:

[BlueSquad2001]

Glad to hear you got the stuff from Tom. Really looking forward to seeing/getting this when your done. Maybe going to LA in the next few weeks? Hope to see Tom if he has time? You know he's doing that movie thing right now.

Jim :muffit:
Yeah I'm aware of what he is doing. Terri (warriorchemist) and I were invited by him to hollywood to a day of hanging out with him on filming site, presenting his model and discussing Galactica. Galactica's continuation is what is really a driving force for me, and Terri. We are making preparations to go soon. We'll let all know when we do, and maybe even check into the fleets while there, and see if he'd like to say some things to all the fans here. That is a thought that I'd like to pursue with him, and I'll definately bring it up in conversation to see what he would think of doing that. Cool idea! :salute:

[spcglider]

Hey, do me a personal favor while you're there, huh? Mention to Tom how much you'd LOVE to see an adult comedy sitcom starring puppets of classic movie monsters.

You know, just slip it in while you're conversing.

LOL.

-Gordon

P.S. Looking forward to that kit!

:viper: :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey, do me a personal favor while you're there, huh? Mention to Tom how much you'd LOVE to see an adult comedy sitcom starring puppets of classic movie monsters.

You know, just slip it in while you're conversing.

LOL.

-Gordon

P.S. Looking forward to that kit!

:viper: :salute:
I'm definately looking forward to doint that (personal) favor just for you! :D That would shake things up a bit now would'nt it? :wtf:
Oh and Gordon, sent you an e-mail. Will call you somtime this morning. :salute:

[Aussieviper]

Wow Bluesquad, she is looking lovely, well done sir :salute: I certainly wish I had half of your scratchbuilding skills!! I can't wait to put this baby-hopefully the only one in Australia- down on the table at the local Model comp in April! Along with my studio scale Cylon Raider from the new series! Its certainly happy and expensive days for BSG Modelers!! How's the casting going? Any word on when they'll be done? I'm climbing the walls with anticipation! Have a good new year, Chris :D

[Aussieviper]

Haha, just noticed the 'just lost my cherry' under my post name. Funny thing is, I have a 10 week old daughter, so I am feeling kinda ripped off! Or should I be worried.......? Might have to have a word with my wife. ;) Cheers, Chris

[BlueSquad2001]

Wow Bluesquad, she is looking lovely, well done sir :salute: I certainly wish I had half of your scratchbuilding skills!! I can't wait to put this baby-hopefully the only one in Australia- down on the table at the local Model comp in April! Along with my studio scale Cylon Raider from the new series! Its certainly happy and expensive days for BSG Modelers!! How's the casting going? Any word on when they'll be done? I'm climbing the walls with anticipation! Have a good new year, Chris :D
Yes we are supposed to have pics of a fully cast model by the weekend, if all things continue as planned. Did you say (scratch-building SKILLS???) :rotf:
Uh... :wtf: Thanks a MILLION!!!! :D
Seriously, pics will be posted soon.
Now for the "BIG" announcement!
We are.....Thanks to the creator-Tom DeSanto getting me the drawings and details on this much hidden fighter :salute: Going to finish our Studio-Scale Desanto Raider to be released right after the Vipers begin to ship!
YES THEY ARE "BIG!" :eek:
Pre-order price will be $225.00 + 15.00 shipping. After the initial pre-orders which will be limited to 9 of them, the price will be set for good at $265.00 plus shipping. Overseas shipping will be calculated.
He we go! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay, we are LATE!!! OOooops!
Here are pics of Terri re-inforcing the mold boxes.
http://tinypic.com/jkg3mr.jpg

And the engine, intakes, wing and fuselage molds.
http://tinypic.com/jkg42f.jpg

And LAST...But not LEAST.. :wtf: Here's Terri just so happy with her molds! Can't ya see the excitement! ;)
http://tinypic.com/jkg5xx.jpg
:rotf:
Will demold tomorrow, and our fist casting will be shown here in the afternoon! Will call in a minute Dilbertman! :salute:

[dilbertman]

Hey BlueSquad,

At this rate I will need to start robbing banks :naughty: to pay for all the cool things you are making. Keep it up :thumbsup: . Long live Classic Galactica.

Jim :drool:

[peter noble]

Can't wait to see what's in those molds.

This is like modern-day alchemy!

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW ANNOUNCEMENT AND PICS OF FINAL CASTINGS
Here are the fruits of our labor, for all the Battlestar fans here and everywhere.
The first pic is of the prototype fuselage on the right (grey) and beside it is the resin pull the the panel lines and rivets were detailed into to make yet another mold the arrive at the gorgeously detailed final version. We are now casting the entire body, and pics of the engines and intakes are coming up in just a few minutes! :D
We are NOW TAKING ORDERS FOR THIS MODEL!!!
$125.00 plus 10.00 shipping and handling and to be safe insurance will be offered. Also shipping may depend on your location, we'll figure it out. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/jkzxjr.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jl00g1.jpg
Contact me by p.m. or here direct at teripop@comcast.net, and we'll get yours poured up! :D
New pics in a few minutes! :wtf:

[WarriorChemist]

Well, I got to be involved in the mold-making (which I can't say is extremely fun) but I'm missing out on the first castings because I'm at work. Oh well, that's OK. I'll get to see in a few hours. I'm glad to see some people excited about this... makes all the work worth it.

I did not know he was going to post that picture of me sitting in the floor... Kind of embarrassing really! I guess he is getting even for the picture I posted of him with the greeblies.

:salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Well, I got to be involved in the mold-making (which I can't say is extremely fun) but I'm missing out on the first castings because I'm at work. Oh well, that's OK. I'll get to see in a few hours. I'm glad to see some people excited about this... makes all the work worth it.

I did not know he was going to post that picture of me sitting in the floor... Kind of embarrassing really! I guess he is getting even for the picture I posted of him with the greeblies.

:salute:

Heh Heh! ands Yuck Yuck!! :wtf:

[BlueSquad2001]

COMPLETE BODY PICS!!!

http://tinypic.com/jl30pl.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jl30vc.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jl312p.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jl32fk.jpg

And there is what was in those molds Peter! Your patience has paid off! I'm thrilled with the castings. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Am currently filling molds with resin and pulling. Am molding wings and guns tomorrow and with that, it'll be fully finished! :salute:

[peter noble]

Holy frack!

Can't wait to see the rest!

I'm loving the detail and the panel lines.

Great stuff! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Holy frack!

Can't wait to see the rest!

I'm loving the detail and the panel lines.

Great stuff! :salute:
Thanks Peter! Here's more. We have 4 vipers now cast, and am about to cast stabilizers. Here's a pic.
http://tinypic.com/jl6yjd.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jl73wk.jpg

[peter noble]

Hey, that's two more than Tom D had! ;)

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey, that's two more than Tom D had! ;)

Best,

Peter
Hey Peter, we now have 6 molded. This is fun, shoulda' done this a long time ago. :D

[BlueSquad2001]

:viper: MORE PICS FROM THE VIPER YARDS :viper:

Here's a few of the pre-order fighters, and stay tuned, I'm about to cast on in black so that the detailing of the panels and other little bits are easier with lighter coats. I'll attemp to put one together and prime the black one mayby to show it being assembled! :salute:
http://tinypic.com/jpas6f.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jpasef.jpg
The pic below we call the :colonial: DeSanto Squadron! :colonial:

http://tinypic.com/jpass9.jpg

More to come soon! :colonial: :salute: :colonial:

[Aussieviper]

Hi guys, WOW!!!!!!! Those castings look nice, not a lot of clean up there. I am guessing the pre orders are going out next week sometime? Out of curiosity, do you have orders following the pre orders? These seem to be fairly popular. You're doing a Desanto Raider as well?? Thanks for that, more groveling and begging I need to do to my wife! I can't wait for my Viper, now that I have seen the finished result and I look forward to seeing the Cylon Raider and Galactica. You do realise of course, you will have to do a Cylon Basestar thats' bigger and more detailed than the old monogram kit! Keep the awesome work coming! Cheers, Chris :Nsalute:

[WarriorChemist]

Thanks for all the great feedback... We find it energizing and it helps us work harder. He's in the bathroom right now making the last casting for the night. When I was ordering supplies, I ordered a bottle of black coloring to experiment with. Michael had told me when he was building the master that it was easier to see errors on a darker surface, which is why he primed the master between doing all the details and smoothing. He just did one casting with a bit of the black coloring added, and it has turned out to be a nice primer-gray color. It is easier to see the panel lines and rivets, as well as the greeblie details. There are a few bubbles that are more visible too, but we intend to repair these before sending out any kits. We want them to look great for the people who have been kind enough to trust us.

Yes, we have gotten more orders after the pre-orders, and will have to order more supplies soon. We've found that the suppliers aren't too fast on shipping, so we have to be one step ahead with the ordering so we won't get behind. I'm sure as we get more experienced, we will be able to put these out a lot faster. It takes time to develop an efficient system, even though we've tried to be as organized and methodical as we could.

I think the most difficult thing left to do is to get the pilot sculpted so he can be molded and cast in resin. I hope Michael doesn't make any female pilots, because knowing him, their chests wouldn't fit under the canopy. :girl:

:rotf:

[WarriorChemist]

By the way, Chris... Perhaps some of the female warriors in the Galactica Cafe could give you some suggestions on how to convince your wife to be more cooperative about your model collection. LOL

:salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: FINAL PICS OF THE DAY! :colonial:

The newly cast viper bodies along with som dark gray and black tints added to the resin, as a test to see how well it will affect my weathering process. But here they all are. Wings and guns will be molded tomorrow. Details then. :salute:

http://tinypic.com/jpeqmu.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jpeqsz.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jperee.jpg

Goodnight to all warriors and non-coms! I'm heading to the officers club. :D

[dilbertman]

:yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
That's all I have to say.

Jim :drool: :thumbsup:

[WarriorChemist]

I think he meant bathtub... LOL

:rotf:

Dilbertman, are you going to be alright? :eek:

Good night everybody. I'm beat!
:choco:

[Griffworks]

Awesome job, guys! Those are DaBomb! Sorry I couldn't make it by today. I hate moving - a lot. Still unpacking stuff, too.

Lots of thanks to Teri for putting up with Michael working so obsessively on these! :Nsmilie: :Nsalute:

[dilbertman]

I think he meant bathtub... LOL

:rotf:

Dilbertman, are you going to be alright? :eek:

Good night everybody. I'm beat!
:choco:
I'll be ok, thanks.

Jim :cool:

[dilbertman]

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showpost.php?p=234586&postcount=35

Controls for DeSanto Viper?

Jim :thumbsup:

[peter noble]

Okay, want to see the pilot now! ;)

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay, want to see the pilot now! ;)

Best,

Peter
Pics of the pilots are coming today. They are being sculpted even now. There will be a choice Peter, to either have a female pilot, or male pilot. This is a cool option. Or to order an extrs for your fighter, $20.00. More pics today. :salute:

[dilbertman]

Okay, want to see the pilot now! ;)

Best,

Peter
Me to.

Jim

[spcglider]

Okay you guys...

Time to leave Michael alone so he can get this work done!

Alright Michael... you quit hanging around and get back to work.

(Do I sound like a naggy parent now?)

And you kids get on home! Your mom is calling! Go on....GIT!


:) :rotf: ;) :D

-Gordon :viper: :muffit: :viper:

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay you guys...

Time to leave Michael alone so he can get this work done!

Alright Michael... you quit hanging around and get back to work.

(Do I sound like a naggy parent now?)

And you kids get on home! Your mom is calling! Go on....GIT!


:) :rotf: ;) :D

-Gordon :viper: :muffit: :viper:
LOL!! :D
Just got off the phone with Tom DeSanto! Discussed our trip to meet him and present him with his viper, as well as his raider. Terri (warriorchemist), talked with him a while and had a real BITCH SESSION, LOL, about that "NEW GALACTICA!" YUCK!!! :wtf: :D
He's sending more pics that I need to complete things. Sorry no pics of pilot that I'm ready to present, but soon. Am making mold for wings and waiting for the putty on pilots to dry so that I can begin the detailng. Tom said that the warriors jacket would be used on planet surfaces but that in flight, just the pressure suit that I'm sculpting the pilot in now would be worn, then jacket put on upon landing. Pics soon, I promise. Now...as Gordon said, I'm outta here and back to work . Now you kids git on home! :D

[dilbertman]

Going home. Wait I am home. But I'll be back!

Jim :cylon:

[BlueSquad2001]

Going home. Wait I am home. But I'll be back!

Jim :cylon:
DAMN Dilbert! :D
That's some funny S*#T! :wtf:
Back to sculpting! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: NEW ANNOUNCMENT- FEMALE CYLON SCULPTURES!! :colonial:
Okay, after talking with Tom Desanto last night and telling him of my sculpting ideas, he told me something that I needed to hear, and well I've decided to release her as a kit.
It is a female CYLON! She's been shelved for over a year and Tom encouraged me to finish her and offer her to the fans. Heres a quick pic of the head alone, will show the rest as it progresses. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/jr9sv8.jpg

this just to make you all wonder what I've got going that you have'nt even seen yet. :D
You want this cast and offered? :salute:

[dilbertman]

:thumbsup:

Jim

[spcglider]

Thats funny. I always had a thought to do a female cylon outfit for my wife. that way I could do a Baltar costume and we could go around together and she could nag me.

"Baltar... take out the garbage."
"Baltar... go plug the children in."
"Baltar... you lazy lout, WHEN will you ever destroy the humans???"

-Gordon

[ernie90125]

and telling him of my sculpting ideas, he told me something that I needed to hear
Just to clarify......Tom told you that his Continuation would have included female Cylons ?

If so...that's a very interesting idea. One that I had never considered.

I might speculate that if Cy (from The Return of Starbuck) returned to a Cylon Empire whether having seen genders at work...the development of Cylon women was drawn from his experiences ?

Cool pictures.......

[dilbertman]

:colonial: NEW ANNOUNCMENT- FEMALE CYLON SCULPTURES!! :colonial:
Okay, after talking with Tom Desanto last night and telling him of my sculpting ideas, he told me something that I needed to hear, and well I've decided to release her as a kit.
It is a female CYLON! She's been shelved for over a year and Tom encouraged me to finish her and offer her to the fans. Heres a quick pic of the head alone, will show the rest as it progresses. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/jr9sv8.jpg

this just to make you all wonder what I've got going that you have'nt even seen yet. :D
You want this cast and offered? :salute:
Just make sure the spine glows RED.

Jim :cylon: :naughty: :drool: :kiss: :toaster: :love:

[BlueSquad2001]

Just to clarify......Tom told you that his Continuation would have included female Cylons ?

If so...that's a very interesting idea. One that I had never considered.

I might speculate that if Cy (from The Return of Starbuck) returned to a Cylon Empire whether having seen genders at work...the development of Cylon women was drawn from his experiences ?

Cool pictures.......
:colonial: NEW PICS :colonial:

Heres the finalized laser cannons! They are cool, and look nice on the viper. :D
No, Tom did not mention that feamle cylons were in the continuation, but for me to finish this sculpt and that it gives him further ideas to contemplate. His continuation, is not a "has been" idea. This giant only sleeps. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/jrsllj.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jrso7m.jpg

[Sept17th]

This thread has been very interesting for the fan film maker.

[spcglider]

Got a little "X-wing cannon" style action going on there with the guns, eh? Not a critique... just noticing more stylistic similarities to the X-wing cannons than to the original Viper cannons.

-Gordon

[spcglider]

After looking carefully at the unpainted prototype, I've come to the conclusion that it doesnt look like X-wing cannons.

It looks more like a stretched-out water heater!

Just joking Michael! Looks delicious!

-Gordon

[Dawg]

I was perusing the forum and was again reading WarriorChemist's "rude guy" thread when Mrs. Dawg came in and read over my shoulder (she thinks he was rude, too, BTW). I showed her this thread as I explained to her what was going on.

Understand that Mrs. Dawg is not a huge fan of Battlestar Galactica (although she shares my low opinion of GINO). But even she saw the design difference in the Viper models you guys are doing and GINO's, and recognized them as from the DeSanto production. (She asked "how old is he, anyway? Surely not old enough to know the difference.")

:LOL:

That's my wife!

Anyway - these look gorgeous, and I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product. So is Mrs. Dawg. ;)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[WarriorChemist]

Hello Dawg... Tell Mrs. Dawg I like her! I like both of you, of course! Anyway, please excuse my ignorance, but what is GINO? The only GINO I've ever heard of was a pizza place near my grandmother's house in Ohio! Great pizza, by the way! But something tells me that's not what you are talking about.

And Gordon... you figured out the water heater secret! Oh no! ;) Just kidding, but what is an X-wing cannon?

Speaking of water heaters, I'm going to go put mine to work and wash some clothes in hot water.

Have a nice day everybody! :salute:

[Dawg]

I will, WC, and thank you.

GINO = Galactica In Name Only.

It refers to the Moore/Eick de-creation (*juvenile snicker*) currently running on Sci-Fi.

I also had a GINO's Pizza in my neighborhood when I was young. The pizza was OK, but the hot pastrami sandwiches were to die for (this place pre-dated Quiznos by about 20 years). The place is now a Chinese restaurant....

*sigh*

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[BlueSquad2001]

I will, WC, and thank you.

GINO = Galactica In Name Only.

It refers to the Moore/Eick de-creation (*juvenile snicker*) currently running on Sci-Fi.

I also had a GINO's Pizza in my neighborhood when I was young. The pizza was OK, but the hot pastrami sandwiches were to die for (this place pre-dated Quiznos by about 20 years). The place is now a Chinese restaurant....

*sigh*

I am
Dawg
:warrior:
Hey DOG!!!LONG TIME BUDDY!
I see you met my lady in arms? She's sweet, but that jerk really upset her bad. I think he's just jealous! :rotf:
And still, the pilot sculpt is about ready to be shown, as well as the full complete buildup. The cockpit, I'm having troubles with, but will clear that up in a day or so. Am getting ready to do the raider as we have begun making our orders for materials! This is gonna be a cool year for Galactica models. And no more GINO models hopefully will appear!!! :D I love that...GINO! :rotf: I'm gonna let DeSanto in on that! :D

[Griffworks]

And here I thought the subject of TNS BSG wasn't supposed to be brought up, let alone all this bashing of "GINO" going on.... :thumbdown :rolleyes:

[WarriorChemist]

And here I thought the subject of TNS BSG wasn't supposed to be brought up, let alone all this bashing of "GINO" going on.... :thumbdown :rolleyes:
Alright Griff! :D
Bashing of GINO, was not the real topic, it just turned out "funny" that's all. :LOL:
I've never heard this, and it is amusing. Because even Hatch will tell everyone that TNS is just that, New, and with NO REAL resemblance to TOS, and that that is the whole idea behind the MOORE and whatever production. GINO! Get it! :rotf:
Now, this all started with some JERK by the name of Max , LUCIFER MAXIMUS
that wanted to say rude things that had really upset our Terri (warriorchemist) that's what it is about, not about bashing GINO! :barf:
:salute:

[Griffworks]

OK How 'bout we lose the term "GINO", please? There are those of us who like the show who post here and find the term as equally insulting as using the "N-Word" to describe a black person.

Please...?

[Gemini1999]

Folks -

This isn't getting us closer to the topic at hand....

Regards,

Gemini1999
Colonial Fleets Moderator

[WarriorChemist]

I see that BlueSquad2001 posted under my name... Just wanted to clarify if it caused any confusion since he mentioned my name in the post. ;)

We all have our opinions and they are all valid. Some will like TNS and some will not.... AND THAT IS OK! :D

I don't like it, and that is OK. :D

Griffworks does like it, and that is OK. :D He comes to our house and we don't even beat each other up or anything! Isn't that nice?

Now, on to the topic.... Wait a minute... what was it anyway?
Oh yes, what Michael is doing... working on the cockpit and the pilot and perhaps even the busty female pilot too, the canopy, about to pour a mold for one of the wings (for the third time, ugh! :/: )and the Cylon head and who knows what else!

And now, I will go cook dinner.

Peace, :salute:
Terri

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay all you fans of this thread!
Here's the final canopy master and it's about to be molded. The resin casting will have to be taken with an x-acto knife and remove the inner window area, which is simple to do. :D
http://tinypic.com/ju8lmf.jpg
Am working on the cockpit details and will try for pilot pics tonight, but it is a slow process. Very small detail work. Maybe not tonight Jim. ;) But I'm still at it.

[dilbertman]

Was going to say it going to be hard to see out of this thing before you said 'x-acto'. BTW, there's always tomorrow.

Jim :duck:

[BlueSquad2001]

Was going to say it going to be hard to see out of this thing before you said 'x-acto'. BTW, there's always tomorrow.

Jim :duck:
Yeah, whatever! :D
You simply trim out the window frames, GOD, make such a big DEAL out of it why don't you! :hack:

[dilbertman]

Yeah, whatever! :D
You simply trim out the window frames, GOD, make such a big DEAL out of it why don't you! :hack:
So it's going to be that way!

Jim :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

So it's going to be that way!

Jim :rotf:
Yeah you :barf:
Hangin' round here all sneaky like tryin ta find out anything new! :hack:

[dilbertman]

Yeah you :barf:
Hangin' round here all sneaky like tryin ta find out anything new! :hack:
Keep it up and I will have to come over to your house and :hack: you up. Remeber I'm from the hood. :eek:

Jim :rage: :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Keep it up and I will have to come over to your house and :hack: you up. Remeber I'm from the hood. :eek:

Jim :rage: :rotf:
Uh....You mean the U.S.S. HOOD? :duck:
LOL! You forum stalker take this :barf:

[dilbertman]

Uh....You mean the U.S.S. HOOD? :duck:
LOL! You forum stalker take this :barf:
No!

DETROIT!

Jim :hack:

[BlueSquad2001]

No!

DETROIT!

Jim :hack:
HA HA LOL! LMFAO!!! :rotf: :hack: :barf: :hack: :barf:

[dilbertman]

HA HA LOL! LMFAO!!! :rotf: :hack: :barf: :hack: :barf:
Sorry, can't top that one.

Jim :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

Sorry, can't top that one.

Jim :thumbsup:
LMAO!!!!
:viper: :hack:

[dilbertman]

LMAO!!!!
:viper: :hack:
STOP messing around and post some pic's!

Jim :mad: :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

STOP messing around and post some pic's!

Jim :mad: :rotf:
Nope cause you hurt my feelins', I QUIT! :cry:
:viper: :hack: :barf:

[BlueSquad2001]

STOP messing around and post some pic's!

Jim :mad: :rotf:
Well....Okay then. Here's a pic of me playin' my Les Paul Classic, ain't she a beauty? :love: http://tinypic.com/jv42g8.jpg
And here's one of me playing my Gibson Double Neck :love: http://tinypic.com/jv43k3.jpg
and one of me and Terri back when we first started seeing each other! Ain't we CUTE!!!http://tinypic.com/jv447q.jpg
Are those the pics you wanted, they are the best, are'nt they? :D

[dilbertman]

Do't make me mad you won't like me when I get MAD!

JIM :eek:

[BlueSquad2001]

Do't make me mad you won't like me when I get MAD!

JIM :eek:
ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT THEN. Fine! :D
Here's the one you wanted to see of my Ex-Wife, Yes she's HOT< and no you can't have her number, so stop asking Dilbertman! :D
http://tinypic.com/jv51lt.jpg :P:

[z28barry]

Ha ha ha ha, that's too funny!!!
:rotf:
Even Sir Mix Alot would say:
Damn, Babby got back. :eek:

[BlueSquad2001]

Ha ha ha ha, that's too funny!!!
:rotf:
Even Sir Mix Alot would say:
Damn, Babby got back. :eek:
Glad you liked that Barry! Now, since your interested, I'll be sure and give her sister here in the pic, your e-mail address! :rotf:
http://tinypic.com/jv58hy.jpg
:yikes:

[dilbertman]

Glad you are starting to pick on someone else. I'm sorry. Can't we all just get along?

Jim :cry:

[BlueSquad2001]

Glad you are starting to pick on someone else. I'm sorry. Can't we all just get along?

Jim :cry:
Okay then.
Here's here we are at on this moel thingy.
We have de-molded the wing and canopy. Removed the clay beds, and are about to pour the other mold halves. There should be pics of cast parts after 7 or 8 tonight! :D

[dilbertman]

Then, I'll Be Back @ 8.

Jim :salute:

[z28barry]

Ohhh, keep the hot babe pics coming. :rotf:
Just her sister, why not both? :rotf:
I'm getting a little excited, if you know what I mean. :rotf:
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Ohhh, keep the hot babe pics coming. :rotf:
Just her sister, why not both? :rotf:
I'm getting a little excited, if you know what I mean. :rotf:
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Barry!!! BARRY!! Calm down Damn it! :D
We're tryin' ta mold parts here, and all this ruckus is disturbin' tha Terri unit! ;)

[BlueSquad2001]

:viper: UPDATE :viper:

We are molding the base, as well as the cannons, rear of the canopy section, starboard wing, and that will complete the major components of the model. I'll photograph all parts together, then begin posting pics of my build-up progress. There will be some bubbles, as well expected. But rest assured that with care taken in assembly, it will be a great addition to TOS line of vipers. I'll document the short comings when I begin the build-up so that all the :barf: out there will know that any complaints, will be pre-noted here 1st! :D
Also, we DO and WILL make repairs to bubbles and fill them and smooth them before shipping. We want you all to know that we care in what we create. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: UPDATE!! BASE COMPLETE!! :colonial:

Here is the final pic of the base that I built about a month ago, and just finished it. Originally, this was made for TOS Studio Sacle by Jesse Myers, as I wanted somthing different. The Blue Squadron emblem makes a fine base, but I did'nt like any of the aftermarket emblem bases, as they all looked like the pyramids were ALL out of proportion. :wtf:
So, here is my take on this, and the pyramids are at different thicknesses of styrene, to give it a little more depth! :D
http://tinypic.com/jzbpd3.jpg
More pics soon, as we near total completion of this long waited for viper. :salute:

[z28barry]

Base looks awsome, can't wait to see the final model with the base.
Will look good next to my JM viper, if I ever get around to building it.
So many great kits and no real time to build.

later, Barry.

[BlueSquad2001]

Base looks awsome, can't wait to see the final model with the base.
Will look good next to my JM viper, if I ever get around to building it.
So many great kits and no real time to build.

later, Barry.
Thanks Barry. Will have fully cast parts for show tomorrow!
Well, back to work for me and Terri! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: Photo Update!!!! :colonial:

Here are pics of the fully completed laser cannons. I had to wait and see all the pics that I was sent, before I could begin to scratch all the proper details. Theres alot going on on these cannons. Pumps, tubes, vents and all that stuff that might really be there in real life. But they look menacing :viper: :rage: :salute:
http://tinypic.com/jzheo7.jpg
http://tinypic.com/jzi0ch.jpg

[dilbertman]

I"m Back!

Late, but I made it.

Jim :P:

[BlueSquad2001]

I"m Back!

Late, but I made it.

Jim :P:
DAMNIT!!!! What do you think about the LASER CANNONS!!! :wtf:
:rage:

[dilbertman]

DAMNIT!!!! What do you think about the LASER CANNONS!!! :wtf:
:rage:
Looking Good. Now put them on the ship so I can go kick some Cylon A**.

Jim ;)

[dilbertman]

Hello McFly! Anyone home?

Jim :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Hello McFly! Anyone home?

Jim :rotf:
UH??? :wtf:

[BlueSquad2001]

All molds are made for the day, and my happy A%$ is going to da bed! :D
I've had it! Later Dilbertman!
By the way, my ex- said shes sorry that she missed your call!!! DOH! :D
:hack:

[dilbertman]

UH??? :wtf:
When you didn't come back right away. I guessed you when off to see the ex.

Jim :rotf:

[spcglider]

And Gordon... you figured out the water heater secret! Oh no! ;) Just kidding, but what is an X-wing cannon?



In Star Wars (The original...not that junk George's been pushing out his butt lately), the cannons mounted on the tips of the wings of the X-wing fighters have alot, stylistically, similar to these new Desanto versions.

I cannot stop it. My brain WILL draw similarities between objects. Just a programming fault. Pay it no mind.

Now...to wade into the "rude conversation" thread.

See you there.

-Gordon

[dilbertman]

All molds are made for the day, and my happy A%$ is going to da bed! :D
I've had it! Later Dilbertman!
By the way, my ex- said shes sorry that she missed your call!!! DOH! :D
:hack:
Hey buddy

When can we get to see new pic's of your updates?

Jim :duck:

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey buddy

When can we get to see new pic's of your updates?

Jim :duck:
Holy FRACK
I'm takin' da night off! You :barf: :P:
And I'll post tomorrow. For real! I need a night away from this, I grow weary. :salute:

[dilbertman]

Holy FRACK
I'm takin' da night off! You :barf: :P:
And I'll post tomorrow. For real! I need a night away from this, I grow weary. :salute:
That cool. Just asking. Here have a :beer: on me.

Jim :duck:

[dilbertman]

Look what I truned down so I can send all my money your way. Hope your happy.

http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_chevrolet_camaro_concept/

Jim :beer: :beer: :corona: :corona: :maitai: :maitai: :colada: :colada: :mushies: :oreo: :barf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Look what I truned down so I can send all my money your way. Hope your happy.

http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_chevrolet_camaro_concept/

Jim :beer: :beer: :corona: :corona: :maitai: :maitai: :colada: :colada: :mushies: :oreo: :barf:
HA! Don't worry, I'll make you one out of AVES epoxy sculpt!! :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey Dilbertman!
I'll have some pics up tomorrow, during the day. I'm just taking a breather from this tonight, I've been at it for 7 days a week since I re-started this project. And having to redo things since DeSanto got involved. And with the raider project he's helping with, it's going to be on the tail of this viper. And that means even more hours and days and hopefully, not too many weeks. :D

[dilbertman]

Hey Dilbertman!
I'll have some pics up tomorrow, during the day. I'm just taking a breather from this tonight, I've been at it for 7 days a week since I re-started this project. And having to redo things since DeSanto got involved. And with the raider project he's helping with, it's going to be on the tail of this viper. And that means even more hours and days and hopefully, not too many weeks. :D
OK, I'll give you tonight off, but don't do it all the time. BTW, thanks about the car. Any ETA on when you may start posting images of the Raider?

Jim :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

I'll be starting that thread real soon. I think this is the longest thread in this section of the Colonial Fleets! :D
Gonna have to start a new one for that~! :salute:

[dilbertman]

I'll be starting that thread real soon. I think this is the longest thread in this section of the Colonial Fleets! :D
Gonna have to start a new one for that~! :salute:
Always have to get the last word in don't you.

Jim :rolleyes: