New Studio Scale Models and other Great models on the way!!

[dilbertman]

I'm out of here. See you tomorrow.

Jim :milk: :cookie: :erk:

[BlueSquad2001]

I'm out of here. See you tomorrow.

Jim :milk: :cookie: :erk:
YUP!!!! And I still DID!! AHHH! :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Actually...I'm going ahead and starting the 1st build-up tomorrow. I'll post some pics of casted parts, but for the most part I'll be busy with that tomorrow.
I've got a little tiny edge to trim from the base mold, but other than that we ran out of molding silicone, and ordered more today, so that means that the right wing is holding for more mold material. But, I can complete the pilot, and the cockpit and seat, and have them ready when the materials arrive.
And go forward and begin my build-up minus the right wing! :D
It'll be somethng to show. And everyone can see what the finished viper will look like! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW PICS TODAY
Here's the 1st casting of the base. It has just minor spots along the top edge that need to be smoothed, but NO BUBBLES! Once that edge is rounded smooth with a small file or sand paper it's great! :D More to come today! :salute:
http://tinypic.com/k15quv.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: NEW PHOTO UPDATE!!!! :colonial:

Here is the first pic of our canopy casting. Some have a bubble or 2, but each seems to be getting better with each technique we try. Any bubbles will be corrected and filled before we send these out! Terri and I do believe in attempting to fix problems in our work. The windows have been trimmed out, and I'll tell you all now that they are so thin that a butter knife could remove them, very easy to do without mistakes. Like I made trimming this out, I'm still bleeding! X-acto's are KILLER! :salute:
http://tinypic.com/k1a13b.jpg
The next pic shows that I'm just begining to test fit the parts for the fuselage to the intakes, a little putty required! :D And getting ready to do the 1st build-up for show here. Also test fitting the canopy, and fixture behind canopy which needs only a slight curve filed to fit the curve of the fuselage. The canopy itself seems to fall into place with hardly a problem. :D
http://tinypic.com/k1an94.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k1apsz.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k1apw9.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k1aq29.jpg
More pics of parts being fitted and build-up soon. Is that enough for you for now Dilbertman?? :hack:

[z28barry]

Looking good, looking real good!!!!
Did you do any thrust nozzels yet?
Pilot coming soon I hope.

later, Barry.

[dilbertman]

:colonial: NEW PHOTO UPDATE!!!! :colonial:

Here is the first pic of our canopy casting. Some have a bubble or 2, but each seems to be getting better with each technique we try. Any bubbles will be corrected and filled before we send these out! Terri and I do believe in attempting to fix problems in our work. The windows have been trimmed out, and I'll tell you all now that they are so thin that a butter knife could remove them, very easy to do without mistakes. Like I made trimming this out, I'm still bleeding! X-acto's are KILLER! :salute:
http://tinypic.com/k1a13b.jpg
The next pic shows that I'm just begining to test fit the parts for the fuselage to the intakes, a little putty required! :D And getting ready to do the 1st build-up for show here. Also test fitting the canopy, and fixture behind canopy which needs only a slight curve filed to fit the curve of the fuselage. The canopy itself seems to fall into place with hardly a problem. :D
http://tinypic.com/k1an94.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k1apsz.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k1apw9.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k1aq29.jpg
More pics of parts being fitted and build-up soon. Is that enough for you for now Dilbertman?? :hack:
It'll do for now. Now start on my car!

Jim :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: NEW PROGRESS PICS!! :colonial:

Here are new pics of the 1st build-up. In these pics parts are being dry fit, drill points located, amd making sure that all is going to come together with minor effort. Am going to bed now...it is 5:11 a.m. here and I've been working on this since 12:00 p.m. yesterday! :wtf:
I'll explain the pics and building advice as well as let all know what to expect from this model. When I wake up! ;)
http://tinypic.com/k1z2q9.jpg

http://tinypic.com/k1z4t5.jpg

http://tinypic.com/k1z4ub.jpg

http://tinypic.com/k1z4v5.jpg

http://tinypic.com/k1z4vt.jpg

http://tinypic.com/k1z4zl.jpg

http://tinypic.com/k1z508.jpg

Goodnight or morning, what ever. Bye! :D

[z28barry]

to cool, just to cool.
go sleep now and we'll hear from you later.

[spcglider]

I have posted this elsewhere, but HERE seems to be a good place as well.

For those of you who are involved in casting urethane, I am about to pass on some IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

PLEASE KEEP READING.

Here's the low-down: Urethane, when it cures, releases Isocyanate gasses. Sound familiar? That's because the root word is Cyanaide... a poison.

Isocyanates are long-term poisons that build up in your system. Your body will try very hard to get rid of them, but they don't like to go easily. Exposure to them (even regulated exposure) wil eventually cause them to build up in your body and make you ill.

The amount that it takes varies from person to person, and the time it takes to build up in your body varies as well. But over time, you will develop a sensitivity to them.

Typical symptoms include: shortness of breath (induced athsma), skin rashes, itching, throat irritation, dizziness, and oddly enough, back pain. Other, less obvious effects are irritability, short temper, and even paranoia.

But like I mentioned, this all varies from person to person.

So, how to avoid all this? Easy:

1) get yourself a NIOSH approved filter mask with the biggest, most ass-kicking filter cartridges you can buy. Make sure your catridges are the highest rated ones you can get. They won't completely protect you, but they will help limit the exposure through your lungs.

2) set up your workspace so that you are cross-ventilating to the OUTDOORS. This means you need to have a CONSTANT flow of air running through your space. Clean air must enter at one end and fume-y air must be vented out the other end. Be sure you don't vent right into an area that supplies air to another house or building. Your fumes will just get sucked up and deposited into their space.

3) always wear latex (or if you're allegic to latex) nitrile gloves when handling the urethane components or the mixed combo. Not only can Isocyanates enter your body through the lungs as fumes, but they also affect you through the skin. Be sure to get yourself some of those disposable tyvec jumpsuits they use when they paint cars. It'll keep you from wrecking your clothing.

4) Use and Do all the stuff above.

5) If you feel like you've started to show any of the signs of overexposure, you need to get away from the stuff. Take a break from it for at least two weeks. In the mean time, you can exercise and pump your lungs good and hard...run, bike, whatever. Drink ALOT of water. It helps your body get rid of the toxins. And best of all, get thee to a sauna. Especially after you workout. A sauna will force you to sweat alot and encourage your body to expell the toxins that way.

Once again, THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

And note: BECAUSE YOU DO NOT FEEL THESE EFFECTS IMMEDIATELY DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE NOT DAMAGING YOUR BODY! Like I said, this stuff builds up over time and exposure and WILL eventually cause you problems. Put away your ego and stop thinking you're invulnerable.

I deal with the effects of overexposure on a dialy basis... I have been using the material long enough that I may never actually expell all of the toxins from my body.

I have been so overexposed that when I use urethanes, I must completely isolate myself from direct contact or I WILL end up in the hospital. The way I do this is to follow the rules above. TO THE LETTER.

If you'd like to hear explicit details of overexposure, I will be happy to scare the crap out of you with tales of my own and others experiences.

Rant ends.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

I've been up and at it since 10 this morning. I've disassembled the viper components and begun sanding the primer. Then I re-assembled the main body section and engines, and am about to begin the painting and detailing for the build-up pics. Here goes! :salute:

[spcglider]

You incredible TEASE! ;)

So you're going to start showing us pics of a finished version before you've gotten all the parts molded?

TEASE!! TEASE!!!! TEASE!!!!!

Oh well. Gimme yer best shot. lol

-Gordon :thumbsup:

[chasd25]

WOW! Looks great!

Charlie

[spcglider]

Yeah, I gotta say Michael, that you are doing a pretty incredible job on this thing. As a 20+ year model builder I must extend kudos in your direction.

The next question is, what are you ON? Whatever it is, I want some. I haven't been able to summon that kind of enthusiasm since I was in my 20s! And I'm NOT talking VIAGRA enthusiasm here.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

WOW! Looks great!

Charlie
Thanks Charlie! :salute: I know YOU!! :D Just got your e-mail and these are fantastic sculpts!!! I'll chat with you soon. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

You incredible TEASE! ;)

So you're going to start showing us pics of a finished version before you've gotten all the parts molded?

TEASE!! TEASE!!!! TEASE!!!!!

Oh well. Gimme yer best shot. lol

-Gordon :thumbsup:
Am sitting here in the art studio, and at the coputer while sanding down the primer on this bird.
And well, all of the parts are there except the cannons, right wing, and thruster nozzles. So I can begin a build-up, and throw the rest in with the cockpit and pilot much later. But it can be built and detaild, then the rest added last. :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Yeah, I gotta say Michael, that you are doing a pretty incredible job on this thing. As a 20+ year model builder I must extend kudos in your direction.

The next question is, what are you ON? Whatever it is, I want some. I haven't been able to summon that kind of enthusiasm since I was in my 20s! And I'm NOT talking VIAGRA enthusiasm here.

-Gordon
THANK YOU GORDON!!! That means something coming from a real pro with your experience!
Although, this model will require a good eye for making sure the body connection points are all level and proper. It will not be as easy as the Jesse Myers viper, but when done with care, it looks great even primed beside of TOS! :D
I'll definately continue pointing out the rough spots some will encounter upon build-up. Don't say I did'nt state these things as (matter of fact) here first. Everyone, keep your reviews to yourself. I've been an artist for over 20 years, and no ones critisisms can come close to affecting me like my own! :LOL: Ask Terri, I'm real serious about being a perfectionist with my art. And model building as well. This is a model, a work of creativity, it will not fall together and fit perfectly, but I'll make damn sure that every casting, will be filled and sanded and whatever it takes to make ease of assembly much better. In some cases I've decided that if necessary, I'll do a pre-build, and refine the cast parts before shipment.
And Gordon, I can't begin to explain "what" I'm on! :rotf:
Talk to you soon.

[spcglider]

THANK YOU GORDON!!! That means something coming from a real pro with your experience!
Talk to you soon.

Aww... now you're just rubbin' my rhubarb!

:rotf:

-Gordon :viper: :thumbsup: :beer:

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW BUILD-UP PICS!!

Here are pics after priming in standard grey, and then 2 coats of primer white. These were taken after primer had been wet sanded and primed again. Am about to go into actual painting and detailing of panel lines and the numerous tonal variations. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/k2imgy.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k2ip3m.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k2ipfl.jpg

More to come soon! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW PICS!!!
Okay, painting this bird. Here goes.
The primers were basic, few coats of standard grey, sand, prime, sand and you know the routine. :D Then I did a light priming with white. The first actual paint coat is model master (acryl) grey primer #4690 with green zinc chromate #4852 added to the grey to give it a nice greenish tint, but don't over do it. It should not be more green than grey. I'd say about 20% green. This will really enhance the detail and depth of the model when complete. ;)
http://tinypic.com/k37k1g.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k37k3n.jpg

More pics shortly, with painting instructions to make this fighter as authentic as it would (will) be! :D

[spcglider]

I am SO friggin' jealous. I SO desire the time to do what you're doing right now. Work schedule is filling up so I won't have any hobby time in the next two or three weeks (which I guess is okay since you're not exactly finished casting the kits... how's THAT for kismet?). But I know I have an SMT Colonial Shuttle kit coming in the next two months or so, plus a secret private project that I've taken on for Peter Noble. Plus the continuing creation of obscure Galactica resin replica kits for all you good folks. Add to that all of my non-galactica related commitments (making puppet videos, writing my comic series, building art-piece ray guns, commitments to the Starship Exeter production, writing two books, blah blah blah) and It's going to be a task to carve out a time when I can lavish the kind of "finish love" on the kit that I so enjoy. Its a matter of available time and residual energy by the end of the day.

So Michael, did you win the lottery or something? Or are you making a living wage being an artist? I know it's possible to do so, but I know very few people who are.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

I am SO friggin' jealous. I SO desire the time to do what you're doing right now. Work schedule is filling up so I won't have any hobby time in the next two or three weeks (which I guess is okay since you're not exactly finished casting the kits... how's THAT for kismet?). But I know I have an SMT Colonial Shuttle kit coming in the next two months or so, plus a secret private project that I've taken on for Peter Noble. Plus the continuing creation of obscure Galactica resin replica kits for all you good folks. Add to that all of my non-galactica related commitments (making puppet videos, writing my comic series, building art-piece ray guns, commitments to the Starship Exeter production, writing two books, blah blah blah) and It's going to be a task to carve out a time when I can lavish the kind of "finish love" on the kit that I so enjoy. Its a matter of available time and residual energy by the end of the day.

So Michael, did you win the lottery or something? Or are you making a living wage being an artist? I know it's possible to do so, but I know very few people who are.

-Gordon
Hey Gordon!!!
No, did'nt win the lottery or anything. Have struggled for over 20 yarhens with this artistry career. I have paid my dues, and am just begining to be recognised. I do commission works, have been in shows and galleries, online portfolios at http://www.artwanted.com/MichaelMiles and sell on e-bay as well as do this everyday of the year, with rarly a day off. And even then i am painting or sculpting before the day is over. :D
Here is the next pic of the painting process. I added to the base color I described before, flat white 7 parts, acryl aluminum 4 parts #4677 and lt. grey #4765 10 parts to begin the different panel tones. Take a look. ;)
http://tinypic.com/k38z88.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW PICS!!!

Further panel tones being added. Do not stay completely consistent when adding you lighter tones. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/k39e9y.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

PAINTING!!!\
We have added 7 parts acryl skin tone to our last color and 12 parts white and a dab of light grey and did a dusting of the model with this. The last pic is of the first only deeper contrast to pick out the details! :salute:
http://tinypic.com/k3kcqs.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k3kdps.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k3kdvn.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k3ke4j.jpg
Back for more soon! :D

[dilbertman]

Looking good. :thumbsup:

Jim :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

New pics with Jesse's TOS viper just for fun. I've begun the panel variations and weathering as well as various blk washes to pick out details. Am off now to do a commission painting for a good customer out in Calif. So I'll be back with more tomorrow! :D
Goodnight! :colonial:
http://tinypic.com/k3nq8i.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k3obc5.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

LET'S HAVE FUN WITH THIS!!

Though you all would like to take a peek at the original drawing that I had done back over 2 years ago when I was originally pre-paring for this project. I really did'nt like the DeSanto design, and as you can tell.... :LOL: I TRIED a little to much to alter it back to TOS viper as much as I could. :wtf:
It was ridiculous now that I look back at this drawing, but I hated it. Now i love it. And understand the evolution that it took. But still, here is my silly re-designing of the Mk.IV viper. A blast from the past! :D
http://tinypic.com/k3vrpv.jpg
:D :rotf:

[dilbertman]

LET'S HAVE FUN WITH THIS!!

Though you all would like to take a peek at the original drawing that I had done back over 2 years ago when I was originally pre-paring for this project. I really did'nt like the DeSanto design, and as you can tell.... :LOL: I TRIED a little to much to alter it back to TOS viper as much as I could. :wtf:
It was ridiculous now that I look back at this drawing, but I hated it. Now i love it. And understand the evolution that it took. But still, here is my silly re-designing of the Mk.IV viper. A blast from the past! :D
http://tinypic.com/k3vrpv.jpg
:D :rotf:
Hey can I get a copy of that to go with my Viper?

Jim :eek:

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey can I get a copy of that to go with my Viper?

Jim :eek:
I kinda was gonna frame this and place it above the viper squadron that I'm gonna make. I could probably make prints of it for $20.00 a piece. If your interested? Are you still interested in the painting of the Frazetta remake of the warrior women? If you are, I'll make a package deal on that set up. :salute:
I've decided to do another painting of that same theme that Frazetta had done, but with all the female warriors wearing the DeSanto outfits and the Mk.IV Vipers behind them with the advanced cylon raiders overhead! But, making them in very dense watercolor and gouache and hand painting each one so that each will be unique and original in itself. And only offering a limited set of 10 just exclusively for the purchasers of the Mk.IV viper kits. 18x24" heavy archival watercolor paper with signed certificate of authenticity. The price will be especially low at $ 125.00 and will be shipped for free to those that want it. This is a great idea that I'm about to discuss with Terri, (if I can ever get her to answer the phone!!! :D ) Just came up with this idea on the spot while typing this reply. My mind is racing through a constellation of thoughts and ideas. I wish I could write them all down. But too fast! :devil: I've decided that just for fun...again :D I'm gonna throw in another old pic of this project back when it was just begining over 2 yarhens ago, this is cool for me to come across, cause I have so many pics of this build-up it's ridiculous, I could write a book, and fill it with pics. :rotf:
http://tinypic.com/k49qpx.jpg
The wings were just too long, and the fuselage was all the wrong shape to fit the intake area and according to the plans, just wrong underneath in general. so I remade the whole thing...no problem! :D
http://tinypic.com/k49qvt.jpg
And last but not least, one of my very favorite pieces is one of the blasters that I got from Rob over at sci-fi models that I worked over like HELL and spent a long time on the finish. I still have yet to add the red and yellow light details, but I just think that painted activation and power light look like s**t! But I'll add them if I figure out a way to make them look realistic. I now love this piece and everyone has played with it! :D
http://tinypic.com/k49r82.jpg
Just for fun! :LOL:

[z28barry]

Everything is coming together very nicely, can't wait to see the finished product.
If your viper looks this good, the raider should be the cats meow when done!
Keep up the great work.

[BlueSquad2001]

Everything is coming together very nicely, can't wait to see the finished product.
If your viper looks this good, the raider should be the cats meow when done!
Keep up the great work.
Thanks Barry!!! And what do you think of the painting idea?:D
And an announcement to all that have wondered about the raider, and when something was going to be let known. We have just recieved the main construction materials to continue this project, and are waiting just for the right moment to launch the new thread on this subject here at the fleets! Keep watching! :salute:

[z28barry]

Paint looks great so far.
I think you should paint the viper in the traditional style of the originals.
I am going to paint mine that way with some minor modifications, like painting the nose the same color as the stripes.
The email I sent you will give you an idea of what I am saying.
Got to go now, time to hit the Linux books and fire up the Linux Box.

Later, Barry.

[chasd25]

:eek:

Wow! Looking good. Nice to see it stacked up next to Jesses Viper!

Can't wait to get one! I need to make room in the display case so I can display all 4 Mks (1, 2, 4, 7)!

Charlie

[BlueSquad2001]

Paint looks great so far.
I think you should paint the viper in the traditional style of the originals.
I am going to paint mine that way with some minor modifications, like painting the nose the same color as the stripes.
The email I sent you will give you an idea of what I am saying.
Got to go now, time to hit the Linux books and fire up the Linux Box.

Later, Barry.
thanks for the thoughts Barry. And actually, when done, the painted viper will have almost the same tones once I get the panels all done. The way I'm painting it now with the various tones added just gives it more depth to the finished subject. It'll be looking like it belongs next to TOS viper in colors and details. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

:eek:

Wow! Looking good. Nice to see it stacked up next to Jesses Viper!

Can't wait to get one! I need to make room in the display case so I can display all 4 Mks (1, 2, 4, 7)!

Charlie
We look forward to hearing from you. And can't wait to see your build-up of this viper. :salute:

[dilbertman]

If the price is right, I'd go for that. Just send the total and I'll let you know.

Jim

[BlueSquad2001]

If the price is right, I'd go for that. Just send the total and I'll let you know.

Jim
Give me a call in about an hour1
Mike :rotf:

[Griffworks]

Got to over to Michael's house today and saw the one he's currently building up for Box Art. This thing looks awesome built up! Thinkin' I might have to break my promise to myself about buying off-scale (for me) models. :thumbsup:

Went out w/Michael afterwards and had a beer and shot the breeze w/him. Even talked to Dilbertman - Good talkin' to ya, dude!

[dilbertman]

Got to over to Michael's house today and saw the one he's currently building up for Box Art. This thing looks awesome built up! Thinkin' I might have to break my promise to myself about buying off-scale (for me) models. :thumbsup:

Went out w/Michael afterwards and had a beer and shot the breeze w/him. Even talked to Dilbertman - Good talkin' to ya, dude!
Good talking to you to.

Jim :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

New Painting Pic!!

Here's what I have done thus far for detailing the models various paint tones. Added multiple parts of dark gull grey, light grey, and white. On some panels, specifically the two laser torpedoes on either side of cockpit, a slight tint of chameleon pearlecsent was added to give it a different kind of metallic look. But don't over do it with this, as you only want it to appear reflecting color, not solid. Then I slightly tinted italian red, (all colors by the way are still modelmaster acryl) with a little yellow, then began marking my lines and hand painted (very thinly) the orangish-red stripes. Then have begun slight weathering on panels and engine section of viper. But she's no where NEAR DONE! :D
http://tinypic.com/k9c6k4.jpg

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Again, a remarkable piece of work.

Sandy

[z28barry]

Sweeeeeet!!!!

[BlueSquad2001]

UPDATE: Progress Pic!!
Okay, alot of you have been hollering..."Cockpit Pics!!!!"
Here it is finally sculpted right. I've tried and failed at numerous attempts and different ways of trying to build it, but being an artist I went with natural instinct and actually sculpted the thing with Aves Epoxy Sculpt! The BEST sculpting compound period, in my opinion.
Whats next with it? Once cured, about another hour from now, I'll be able to remove it from the fuselage, then begin filing, sanding, drilling, dremeling, and adding instrument details and what nots! But here it is, before refinement. :salute:
http://tinypic.com/k9utdv.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

SORRY ALL!!! :D

Had to spend a couple of days getting regular art commissions finished for customers. Will be posting here tomorrow or later tonight on the progress of this teeny- weeny simple project! :rotf:
But will also be in the process of redesigning my work area here to become a multi-functional area. To work on paintings, models, and sculpts, and multi-task in general. I'd like to be able to say, while a background color is drying and am waiting on it to go back to my sculpt, and keep progressing on all projects. We'll start tonight and see how it goes.
By the way....Where is Peter Noble??? :wtf: Have'nt seen him in this thread for quite a while! Worried about that guy. :D
Let me hear from all of you, as I definately become more ENERGIZED by hearing from you and getting suggestions or questions. :salute:

[z28barry]

With all those late nights you put in, I thought it would be better if I didn't bug you.
You deserve a few days to yourself, heck everyone does.
Like always, I check the tread to see what's new and exciting and I'm sure you'll be posting more killer images.

later, Barry.

[dilbertman]

Are you done yet?

Jim :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Are you done yet?

Jim :rotf:
DILBERTMAN!!!! :hack: :devil: :viper:

[dilbertman]

DILBERTMAN!!!! :hack: :devil: :viper:
BlueSquad2001

Just trying to get you ENERGIZED!

Jim :eek:

[peter noble]

Michael,

How's the pilot sculpt coming along?

Best to you and Terri,

Peter

[spcglider]

Moreover, how's the rest of the Desanto Viper MOLDS coming along?

C'mon Michael... I'm like doing a little Snoopy dance in anticipation of getting my kit!!! :muffit:

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

Michael,

How's the pilot sculpt coming along?

Best to you and Terri,

Peter
Hey Peter!!
Good to see you on this thread again. Terri and I were wondering about you! ;)
The pilot sculpt is definately coming along just fine, i'm being patient with it because it is so small, and I'm used tosculpting larger figures. :D
But, I'll try to post pics soon. I'll e-mail you and let you know! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Moreover, how's the rest of the Desanto Viper MOLDS coming along?

C'mon Michael... I'm like doing a little Snoopy dance in anticipation of getting my kit!!! :muffit:

-Gordon
The molds are coming along. Will e-mail you in the morning to talk about some issues. ;)
Am off of the project for a day longer, as I have one more acrylic painting to complete for a long time customer on the west coast. :salute:
Will stay in touch with all on the board though. I'll check in tomorrow. ;)

[spcglider]

M,

Is that a shot of YOU lookin' all "heavy metal" in your avatar?

-G

[Sept17th]

I think its Randy Rhoads.

[spcglider]

Just goes to show you how removed from the music scene I am. Wouldn't have known the difference even if you'd told me!

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

I think its Randy Rhoads.
You are so right! Sept.17th, hae a drink. :salute:
Randy Rhoads was and still is one of the most influential guitarists of our time. I celebrate his legacy and music, and post his image as an avatar because it reminds me not to take life for granted, nor our gifts that we have been given. In the twinkle of an eye, it can all end.

March 1982:



Associated Press

March 20, 1982, Leesburg, Fla. A small plane crashed into a
mansion here and burst into flames yesterday, killing the lead
guitarist of the Ozzy Osbourne rock group and two other people,
police said.

The crash killed guitarist Randall Rhoads, 25, the pilot of the
Beechcraft Bonanza - Andrew Aycock, 36 - and Rachel Youngblood,
58, the group's makeup artist and hairdresser. The plane's pilot
was also the group's bus driver. "He was a saint," Ozzy said, "He was an angel, and too good for this world. His death's always on my mind." Every year at the anniversary of his birth and death, fans from all over the world gather at his grave site to honor his passing. We will never forget him. His musical legacy lives on in the minds and music of his many fans.
http://tinypic.com/m81mia.jpg
Now, back to our ole' viper model thread!! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Tomorrow will begin entirely new updates and photos. We are about finished with the commission art pieces that have taken the time of a day or 3. :D
And are about to take a Lil' nap time, and get up and get back on it. The cockpit details will be covered tomorrow as well as begining pics of the pilot figure. Hang on till Fri Barry! :D I'll get ya some new stuff on this thread.
To finish the whole project and ship?
1. Making the mold for both cannons as soon as the materials arrive.
2. Finish the pilot figure.
3. Complete the instrumentation
4. Thruster nozzles
And you'l all have vipers being shipped. It's not really that much longer, just gonna take me some un-interupted time. I see the finish line and I can't wait to ship. :D

[spcglider]

So you got the wing concerns handled?

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

So you got the wing concerns handled?

-G
Uh..... :wtf:
Okie Dokie! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

I'm having some problems working out the instruments for the cockpit, but will post today at some point the progress pics. :salute:
Be patient Dilbertman!! It's coming along. :D

[dilbertman]

I'm having some problems working out the instruments for the cockpit, but will post today at some point the progress pics. :salute:
Be patient Dilbertman!! It's coming along. :D
Do or do not. There is no try.

Do it right the first time and you won't need to go back and fix it.

I am patient. Patient #17-09-1978 @ NUT-R-US. When I get my weekend pass I'll come over and say "HIIIIIIIIIII".

Jim :bounce: :wtf:

[z28barry]

Any progress shots?

[spcglider]

Michael has been busy the past few days doing some commission work. I talked with him a couple days ago and he says he'll be back as soon as possible with lovely pics to pst.

-Gordon

P.S. Yes, we're all highly excited!

[BlueSquad2001]

Michael has been busy the past few days doing some commission work. I talked with him a couple days ago and he says he'll be back as soon as possible with lovely pics to pst.

-Gordon

P.S. Yes, we're all highly excited!
Thanks Gordon! :salute: That was a very kind statement from you. But today....I'm back on the fleets! And we are going to start of with a little work on the instrument panele detail on the cockpit piece. :D I'm right here at the computer if anyone has any questions or what-not, just reply here or p.m. me. The computer is here upstairs in the art room, so we can work here and be watchful of internet activity at all times. :D
Now, I'm heading downstairs to get some tea, and honey buns damnit! Now you medlin' kids just git now! :wtf:

[spcglider]

Now, I'm heading downstairs to get some tea, and honey buns damnit!


Just be sure your wife knows WHO's honey buns you're grabbin'....

-Gordon :rotf: :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Just be sure your wife knows WHO's honey buns you're grabbin'....

-Gordon :rotf: :D
HEY...Hey! Now, are'nt you kids spposed ta be in skool? Now get! :D

[spcglider]

I don't need ta go to school.

I'm never gonna use any of that stuff they teach anyway.

No, REALLY. I won't. ;)

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

I don't need ta go to school.

I'm never gonna use any of that stuff they teach anyway.

No, REALLY. I won't. ;)

-GGordon!!!Tried to call ya, and the ohone won't even ring??? What's up with that?? :wtf:

[BlueSquad2001]

And this avatar pic is me! With my #1 Les Paul Classic. :D
Now, back to work! :salute:

[spcglider]

Gordon!!!Tried to call ya, and the ohone won't even ring??? What's up with that?? :wtf:


Ahhh...gotta love the phone service. Okay, so te internet and the fax is working just fine, but our actual telephone lines are screwed-doodly-dooed.

Hope it wasn't anything Earth shattering.

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

:colonial: NEW UPDATE PIC!!! :colonial:

Here is a pic of the instrument panel. It is not a smooth as it will be but you all need to know what's going on with your model! :D
I actuall am having problems getting real clear images of this piece, maybe my lighting, so I'll use natural light tomorrow and see if that's better.
But here it is.
http://i1.tinypic.com/mifhn8.jpg

[spcglider]

I dunno...looks alright to me.

Stickers, dude, I'm tellin' ya... stickers.

-G

[spcglider]

Oh yeah, and we gotta get you working in hard materials soon too. ;)

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

Oh yeah, and we gotta get you working in hard materials soon too. ;)

-Gordon
Uh???? What did you say????? :wtf:

[spcglider]

Just a suggestion. As a model builder, I find the more angular gemetric stuff easier to build from hard materials like styrene card or prototype board instead of trying to sculpt straight lines with a soft medium at the outset.

Its all a matter of preference, of course you may find that you have no taste for that as a medium, but it's always been so much faster for me. That's why I recommend it.

-G :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Just a suggestion. As a model builder, I find the more angular gemetric stuff easier to build from hard materials like styrene card or prototype board instead of trying to sculpt straight lines with a soft medium at the outset.

Its all a matter of preference, of course you may find that you have no taste for that as a medium, but it's always been so much faster for me. That's why I recommend it.

-G :salute:That's exactly the way that it started, I mean with attempting to use card stock. But, it was waaay too much measuring and cutting, and although the pic does not show, all the angles are pretty sharp and clean. Better pics soon. :salute:

[spcglider]

Okee dokee.
Can't wait to see em!
-G

[z28barry]

Seems like things are slowing down, is everything ok?
Please tell me you're not losing your enthusiasm.

later, Barry.

[BlueSquad2001]

Seems like things are slowing down, is everything ok?
Please tell me you're not losing your enthusiasm.

later, Barry.
No..NEVER!!! :D
Just finished a long conversation with Tom testerday afternoon, and upon recieveing a couple of e-mails with (other) pics, I have some very "hush hush" changes to make. But will be following up with new images and construction info early this week. Your patience will be rewarded.
Oh, by the way, viper markings will be changed to some that Tom sent yesterday.
So the ones that was seen on my begining build-up are and idea that he liked, but i believe he wants me to go with the (more in TOS type) of markings that he prefers. So, he gets what he wants!!! :D And , you'll all be getting a more accurate marked ship, compareable to the vipers his Galactica will feature.
And (his) Galactica is coming! It will be so. :salute:
Talk to you all soon. And thanks for checking on me Barry! :D

[z28barry]

And (his) Galactica is coming! It will be so.

?????His Galactica is coming?????
Or do you just mean his vision of the viper is nearing completion

[spcglider]

I think Michael was being promotionally positive. If and when Tom DeSanto manages to secure some sort of continuation deal, I'm sure he'll let us know post-haste. I mean, WE ARE the fan core, aren't we?

And won't that just be a GREAT COME AND GET IT day?

Note: If you don't recognize the reference, watch "Finnian's Rainbow" starring Fred (Chameleon) Astaire. Its a musical.

But Michael has entered the Long, Dark Teatime of the DeSanto Viper Project. Its nothing but a cornucopian schlogg of hard work from this point on. He's got molds to finish and alot of very "non-photogenic" processes to get through to get us our kits.

Be not afraid. He's working on it. And so, if rumors are to be believed, is Tom D.

-Gordon

[spcglider]

Three days and counting...

-G

[dilbertman]

Hey Blue Squad

How goes it? Out killing Cylons with the Vipers.

Jim

[dilbertman]

UPDATE!

Just talked to Mike. He told me he has been MIA from the site because of a abscessed tooth. And has been on some big time pain killers and other medications. He is hoping to post some upates Monday afternoon if he can. Lets all wish Mike a speedy recovery so he can get back to making those Vipers.

Jim

[dilbertman]

Hey Mike

Now I have the last word for now.

Jim ;)

[Sept17th]

Yes, I hope he recovers quickly since I'm in the states for the next 10 days and he I need to have a phone conversation.

[dilbertman]

Yes, I hope he recovers quickly since I'm in the states for the next 10 days and he I need to have a phone conversation.
See PM.

Jim :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay I'm here! :salute:
And let me throw one to ALL viper lovers out there. The so called NEW SERIES Viper Mk. II is NOT the Viper Mk. II!!!! :LOL:
It is not a Mk. ANYTHING! LOL! :rotf:
The Tom DeSanto Viper that we all semm to be calling the Viper Mk.IV is ACTUALLY THE Viper Mk.II!!! :D How that to start some new controversy? I just recently have recieved the final design for the DeSanto Viper and what I can tell you is this. 1. The final renders and approved Viper Designs that was to be the Viper, I and Terri along with Tom DeSanto only have these final renders. And 2. the Viper in question is designated the Viper Mk.II ! There was never a Mk.III or Mk.IV and we don't know how that came to be? So it is OFFICIALLY The Viper Mk.II and t5here is no Mk.IV! :D FACT!
Anyway, I'm on the pilot sculpt and it's tough, but will have pics up soon.

[z28barry]

Just happen to be sitting at the computer studying.
Long time no hear.
Hope everything is ok with you.

later, Barry.

[BlueSquad2001]

Just happen to be sitting at the computer studying.
Long time no hear.
Hope everything is ok with you.

later, Barry.
Thanks Barry!! :salute:
I'm fighting an unbelieveable infection caused by an absessed tooth. I'm on anti-biotics and H-Codone, real nice for pain :D
But am sculpting the pilot now, even though I'm kinda goofy! :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

THERE IS NO MK.IV VIPER!!! IT'S THE MK.II!

[peter noble]

Hey watch yourself. Maybe you should have a good rest and get yourself well before tackling work.

Best,

Peter

[SciFi Models]

Mike

The term MK 4 came into use when I needed a name for the 1/48 scale model I had mastered.

MK 4 was used because there was/is a MKII Viper used in the NEW series; it has been called the MKII by Ron Moore and the VFX artists for the new series along with the MK 7 Viper. I just chose something in the middle.

Rob

[BlueSquad2001]

Mike

The term MK 4 came into use when I needed a name for the 1/48 scale model I had mastered.

MK 4 was used because there was/is a MKII Viper used in the NEW series; it has been called the MKII by Ron Moore and the VFX artists for the new series along with the MK 7 Viper. I just chose something in the middle.

Rob
Well explained Rob! Now DeSanto and i both know where the root of that labling came from ;)
But just so all know, it is the Mk.II :salute:

[dilbertman]

If TOS Viper is MKI and DeSanto is MKII. Then what is the old Viper Adama used? MK0?

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=28265&item=6578148037

Jim :/:

[BlueSquad2001]

If TOS Viper is MKI and DeSanto is MKII. Then what is the old Viper Adama used? MK0?

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=28265&item=6578148037

Jim :/:
Hey Jim! And Salute. :salute:
I do not believe that, that Viper was known as anything but the Colonial Viper. Just Viper, at the time period, no one thinks too much about what version the first fighters are. And it was probably not thought about in the writing of the show. But, YOU know it is the DeSanto Mk.IV Advanced Colonial Viper. And that is the true designation of this fighter variant. Rob states that it was his idea to give it that designation, and To had nothing to do with it. And now, after letting him in on it, he knows where it originated.
Have a good night Jim, I'm up burning the midnight oil. Have a Viper that the world is waiting on. :D

[SciFi Models]

MK II, MKIV, or MK X Tom's design is still the coolest by far. IMHO

So hurry up Mike I need one to set next to my MK 7 Studio scale Viper!

Rob

[spcglider]

"A rose Mk II by any other designation would smell just as sweet."

To misquote a colonial bard....

-Gordon

[z28barry]

It's to quiet, throw this dog a bone.
anything will do.

[spcglider]

You are SO right.

Mike, you still with us? Or did the chemicals finally get you?

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

You are SO right.

Mike, you still with us? Or did the chemicals finally get you?

-GordonI'm with you man! Just figuring out how to make some of these things! But I've about got it. Anyway, heres a pic of the warning decals that will be placed in 3 spots around the engine thrusters. COOL! :salute:
http://i1.tinypic.com/nqtjyh.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

And this will be towards the front intake that houses the scanning and other instrumentations. :salute:
http://i1.tinypic.com/nqtnqf.jpg

[spcglider]

Okay... good to hear.

But tell me, have you completed the molds yet? Just curious.

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay... good to hear.

But tell me, have you completed the molds yet? Just curious.

-G
Yes, but have to remake the gun molds! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Am probably going to try some of the better mold rubbers like Rob (Sci-Fi Models) suggested to me. :D :D

[spcglider]

Okay...

just checkin' so you're not losing focus!!

I'm not handing out info for free here.... :salute: LOL

-Gordon

[peter noble]

Those look cool Mike but in Colonial the word radioactive would be radion (War of the Gods Part 1), just as plutonium is pluton (Saga of a Star World). Electronic diagnostic instruments would just be called scanners too!

Sorry to nitpick, but everything's in the details! ;)

Best,

Peter

P.S. I don't think Vipers are nuclear powered either, when they refer to the missiles in Experiment in Terra, they say "of some nuclear type" as if nuclear power is archaic. (Damn it my inner geek is showing) :LOL:

[spcglider]

I think that these graphics are from "a high source"... based on pre-production imagery.

So don't blame Mike for detail innaccuracy... blame the guy who's name begins with Tom D.

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

Those look cool Mike but in Colonial the word radioactive would be radion (War of the Gods Part 1), just as plutonium is pluton (Saga of a Star World). Electronic diagnostic instruments would just be called scanners too!

Sorry to nitpick, but everything's in the details! ;)

Best,

Peter

P.S. I don't think Vipers are nuclear powered either, when they refer to the missiles in Experiment in Terra, they say "of some nuclear type" as if nuclear power is archaic. (Damn it my inner geek is showing) :LOL:
Okay, this is what Tom had down and his design, but I'l see about changing those lil' things! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

I think that these graphics are from "a high source"... based on pre-production imagery.

So don't blame Mike for detail innaccuracy... blame the guy who's name begins with Tom D.

-GTRUE!!!! :D
But pick up the phone if you have any advice!!! ;)

[spcglider]

My best advice is, get the kit done before we all show up on your doorstep for an "intervention" and demand our kits!!

Ya big tease! ;)

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

My best advice is, get the kit done before we all show up on your doorstep for an "intervention" and demand our kits!!

Ya big tease! ;)

-GNow look! :D
I'm doing my first kit, I'm cool! Just had a problem or two in the scratch building dept. ;)

[peter noble]

Okay, this is what Tom had down and his design, but I'l see about changing those lil' things! :D

Well there you are then, I know infinitely more about BSG that Tom D does! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Well there you are then, I know infinitely more about BSG that Tom D does! :DSo it would appear! :D

[dilbertman]

Well

Peter's in :thumbsup: Tom's out :thumbdown .

Jim :eek:

[BlueSquad2001]

Well

Peter's in :thumbsup: Tom's out :thumbdown .

Jim :eek:Shhhh! You want Tom ta here ya??? ;)

[spcglider]

Tom is a vey intelligent and fair minded guy.

I'm sure he would admit to the fact that there are more informed folks than he.

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

Tom is a vey intelligent and fair minded guy.

I'm sure he would admit to the fact that there are more informed folks than he.

-G
True! :salute:

[dilbertman]

Like Ron Moore? :thumbdown

Jim :wtf: :eek:

[BlueSquad2001]

Like Ron Moore? :thumbdown

Jim :wtf: :eek:
Blasphemy!!!! :wtf:
By the way, thanks for the Battlestar movie Jim! Just got it! :D

[dilbertman]

I'm Sorry.
Just one of those days.

Jim :/:

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW E-BAY ITEM!!!!
Here goes. Am selling a few of these to assist in further supplies for this and other projects. Am about to post final pics tomorrow of the engine thrusters and pilot sculpt! So there! :D
But here's the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Custom-Viper-Display-Base-Resin_W0QQitemZ6036903803QQcategoryZ1193QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Don't know why you can't click on this?? But these are ready to ship know. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Viper Thruster Pics!!
Here it finally is! The much awaited thruster nozzles for this bird. :D
Actually after looking a t drawing plans after drawing plans, I arrived at this type, which I screwed up a few times, but is great now after learning what was causing me problems. I put it down many times before trying again, and this is cool. :salute:
I'll make three molds of this so that each is identical. Besides, I would'nt want to attempt that crap again. :D
She is ready to ship as soon as these molds are done and as soon as the pilot is complete, which I'm working on and will have pics today sometime. :salute:
http://i1.tinypic.com/nvw9aa.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/nvw9he.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/nvw9om.jpg

[peter noble]

Those thrusters nozzles look really cool.

The learning curve on this can only help you with your next project.

Well done!

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

Those thrusters nozzles look really cool.

The learning curve on this can only help you with your next project.

Well done!

Best,

Peter
Thank You Peter! And I appreciate the awesome Happy Birthday wish from you! But poor Terri, feels like she was forgotten. ;) I think the Fleets forgot her birth day, :(
And yes, that helped me advance a little further in skill. The Raider size and design are being approved by Tom right now. Should have word from him in a day or so. :salute:

[spcglider]

Looking good.

-G

[dilbertman]

Viper Thruster Pics!!
Here it finally is! The much awaited thruster nozzles for this bird. :D
Actually after looking a t drawing plans after drawing plans, I arrived at this type, which I screwed up a few times, but is great now after learning what was causing me problems. I put it down many times before trying again, and this is cool. :salute:
I'll make three molds of this so that each is identical. Besides, I would'nt want to attempt that crap again. :D
She is ready to ship as soon as these molds are done and as soon as the pilot is complete, which I'm working on and will have pics today sometime. :salute:
http://i1.tinypic.com/nvw9aa.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/nvw9he.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/nvw9om.jpg
I was thinking that the thruster nozzles would have been a little bit bigger to take up all of the space where they are set. Other than that I like, but that just me.

Jim :/:

[spcglider]

All part of the streamlining. I think it's looking pretty sweet all around!

-G

[Aussieviper]

Hi guys, any more news on the Desanto viper? It's been a few days and I'm going insane. I got the impression they were just about ready to ship- maybe in the next couple of weeks. She's looking better all the time! Cheers, Chris

[spcglider]

Mr. Mike still has a few molding duties to see to. BUT WE ARE ALL EXPECTING TO SEE MAGNIFICENT RESULTS AND FULLY CAST KITS SOON (that's a hint, M....)

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

NEW PILOT SCULPT PICS
NOT FINISHED!!
In other words, don't try to be too harse before he's complete. :D
But he's moving faster now. I'm going to do him full body in a standing pose, then cut him at the right spot so that he'll seat in the viper properly. BUT....he'll also be available to order extra to stand next to the viper. But I'm typing this now with a HUGE hole in my mouth where an enormous tooth used to be, and the laughing gas and codiene is still kicking! :rotf:
But i'm here sculpting on him now. :salute:
http://i1.tinypic.com/o9fvyr.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/o9fxio.jpg

[SciFi Models]

Nice work Mike!

[BlueSquad2001]

Nice work Mike!
Thanks Rob!!!! :salute:
Really looking forward to the future endeavors that we both know will thrill all the Galactica fans! ;)
And, lets not let any cats outta the bag until we have the ideas finalized. ;)
More on the pilot sculpt soon.
It reall looks cool, the photos are not clear enough on the helmet area. :D

[BlueSquad2001]

HELLO!!!! Anybody here????? :wtf: :wtf:

[dilbertman]

I'm here, but will be gone for the weekend. BTW, here's some info on the helmet.

http://cylon.org/bsg/bsg-global-01.html

Jim :salute:

[z28barry]

Things seem to have slowed down and I guess people are dropping off.
I know you had the tooth thing, but people are fickle.
I'm still watching and waiting, I may be quiet but I'm still watching.

later, Barry.

[BlueSquad2001]

I'm here, but will be gone for the weekend. BTW, here's some info on the helmet.

http://cylon.org/bsg/bsg-global-01.html

Jim :salute:
I've got these images Jim.
The sculpt, thugh not finished and add to that not primed, your not visually catching the detail. But the helmet on my pilot is correct. :salute:
And thanks for keeping up Barry! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

I've got these images Jim.
The sculpt, thugh not finished and add to that not primed, your not visually catching the detail. But the helmet on my pilot is correct. :salute:
And thanks for keeping up Barry! :D
Uh Jim, give me a ring before you take off. :salute:

[z28barry]

Hello Mike.

It's been a few days since we've seen any updates.
What's new with the viper, are you getting close to a ship date?
Not trying to hurry you along, just need some info.

later, Barry.

[BlueSquad2001]

Hello Mike.

It's been a few days since we've seen any updates.
What's new with the viper, are you getting close to a ship date?
Not trying to hurry you along, just need some info.

later, Barry.
I posted some pics about the pilot sculpt, no one but my friend Rob said anything about it, so it's like I post, then you post in a response, then I respond, do you get how this works? And if I get NO responses, then I just don't respond much. So respond more, and I then in turn respond :D

[spcglider]

Artists... sheesh!

Okay guys... you gotta feed his ego to get some reaction. :rolleyes:

Just jokin ya Mike! :salute:

-Gordon :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Artists... sheesh!

Okay guys... you gotta feed his ego to get some reaction. :rolleyes:

Just jokin ya Mike! :salute:

-Gordon :D
LOL!!! :D
You betcha Gordon. :salute:

[dilbertman]

Go Mike go, Go Mike go!

Jim :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

Go Mike go, Go Mike go!

Jim :thumbsup:
"Thank You...Thank You Very Much!" (Spoken like Elvis. :rotf: )

[BlueSquad2001]

[QUOTE=BlueSquad2001]"Thank You...Thank You Very Much!" (Spoken like Elvis. :rotf: )[/QUO
Anyway,.....heres where we are at currently. Am waiting to get final approval for the tweaking that I did of the DeSanto final Raider design. Have begun drawing out my plans and prints on this, so as an artist does to give me all the different views and angles of this cool fighter. Am already to go as far as the master build and have ALL and I mean ALL of the materials needed to complete this build. It will be in scale with TOS and Mk.2 Vipers making it 1/24th. It is BIG!
On the Viper you are waiting on, am re-doing the markings and still detailing the pilot sculpt. Will have build-up pics with descriptions in a day or two. If you have any questions...shoot! If you have any ideas, I'm waiting to hear from you. I believe that I may work out a deal with Rob on the Raider castings, but will know more later. If so, this will be cast pretty much semi-hollow to make it lighter and easier to install lights and the cockpit kit that will come shortly after. The cockpit kit will include sculpts of the DeSanto Cylon pilots and the up-dated controls and seats. This will be cool, getting the full blueprints really helped me see how it should be built, and my drawings have somewhat simplified in my minds eye the proper way to make it a reality. :salute:
Rob, get in touch. :D :barf:
Dilbertman....Don't forget to KEEP in touch!!!! In other words...give me a call when you have a minute!!!! :viper: :hack:

[BlueSquad2001]

You people that have participated in this thread and that have demanded, posting and information about the progress of this project, are not doing your part in participating. Meaning, that you all demand a posting from me and then when I give you one, I get no comments or input of any sort in return??? :wtf:
If this is the direction that this thread is going, I'm considering not even begining a thread for the new Raider project. I'm very sad and slightly annoyed at the fact that some have been whining about info from me and then fail to care enough in return to respond to my updates? :rolleyes:
Not friendly and not cool in my book.

[z28barry]

“Demanding, whining” I’ve yet to see anyone demand or whine about the Viper.
Quite the opposite, they praise you and are waiting patiently for the final product.
Now if you are feeling frustrated about participation, you will get more bee’s with honey then you will with vinegar. I myself have been waiting since you’ve offered the preorder some months back and plan to wait for the final product.

I’m not trying to hurry you along or upset you with a request as to what’s happening with the Viper. I am not one for participating in a thread but would rather read and watch what’s going on. I felt I should participate by asking for an update because it seemed very quiet for a number of days. Now if you really think that I am personally responsible for the demanding or whining, you can always offer me a refund of the prepayment and I will no longer participate or watch this thread.

Thanks, Barry.

[BlueSquad2001]

“Demanding, whining” I’ve yet to see anyone demand or whine about the Viper.
Quite the opposite, they praise you and are waiting patiently for the final product.
Now if you are feeling frustrated about participation, you will get more bee’s with honey then you will with vinegar. I myself have been waiting since you’ve offered the preorder some months back and plan to wait for the final product.

I’m not trying to hurry you along or upset you with a request as to what’s happening with the Viper. I am not one for participating in a thread but would rather read and watch what’s going on. I felt I should participate by asking for an update because it seemed very quiet for a number of days. Now if you really think that I am personally responsible for the demanding or whining, you can always offer me a refund of the prepayment and I will no longer participate or watch this thread.

Thanks, Barry.I'm an artist, and a professional, and have seen :eek: alot of demanding and whining tones BARRY! :D
And if you want info and I give it, then have the heart to respond at least say and acknowledge something in return. It's just that no one after asking seems interested enough to respond, wether simply positive or negative, or offer simple opinions and suggestions. This is'nt about ego, it's about communicating to the artist and giving comments and suggestions or even a compliment. And this is the way that all true artists with this kinda passion are. :salute:
Goodnight! :D

[dilbertman]

Hey BS2001

Call me. Want to know what's up.

Jim

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey BS2001

Call me. Want to know what's up.

Jim
Hey.....I'm on the phone with you RIGHT NOW!!!!!!! :D

[dilbertman]

Are you sure?

Jim ;)

[BlueSquad2001]

Are you sure?

Jim ;)
YUP!!!!!
I jus got off da phones wit ya ans I'm a headin' back to da drawing board!!!!
Gotta make some bread for the lady!

[BlueSquad2001]

YUP!!!!!
I jus got off da phones wit ya ans I'm a headin' back to da drawing board!!!!
Gotta make some bread for the lady!
LOL!!!!!
DID YOU SEE THAT IN THE LAST POSTING???? I included the "font" and crap in the spelling!!! :rotf: :toaster: :viper:

[BlueSquad2001]

LOL!!!!!
DID YOU SEE THAT IN THE LAST POSTING???? I included the "font" and crap in the spelling!!! :rotf: :toaster: :viper:
It's the EVIL CYLON TOASTER chasing the human race.
You see, they ran outta regular raiders and captured a fleet food ship that had toasters and thought that it was a secret new viper design to infiltrate the Cylon Alliance an created detailed blueprints/w Baltars genious help, and mastered the new fighter design, and engines for this powerful and destructive ship. It can actually TOAST ships of the fleet from an unknown range at certain times of the night.......except on Tues when all Cylons must report for recharging their energy packs!!!! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :toaster: :viper: :viper2: :cylon: :kiss:

[dilbertman]

Hey :wtf: time to cut down on the meds.

Jim :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Hey :wtf: time to cut down on the meds.

Jim :rotf:
The MEDS!!!!!
Thats what actually had started the entire Cylon uprising and the "TOASTER" ;) :wtf: ship incident!!!!!!

[dilbertman]

BTW, the pilot sculpt looks good. How the cockpit coming? Need pic's and non of the ex this time.

Jim :D

[BlueSquad2001]

BTW, the pilot sculpt looks good. How the cockpit coming? Need pic's and non of the ex this time.

Jim :D
Okay!!!! you want pics!!????????
STAND BY!!!! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Here's the pic you wanted to see. Actually I changed their outfits a little to make them HOTTER than originally intended! And more lips an hips! Pretty hot huh???? :D http://i2.tinypic.com/qove6d.jpg

[dilbertman]

NO! I want the Viper but photo's will do for now.

Jim :P:

[dilbertman]

Here's the pic you wanted to see. Actually I changed their outfits a little to make them HOTTER than originally intended! And more lips an hips! Pretty hot huh???? :D http://i2.tinypic.com/qove6d.jpg
That works for now. Need a few minutes to myself.

Jim :blush:

[BlueSquad2001]

And here's another good one that I did.http://i2.tinypic.com/qovgir.jpg
Just can't beat ELVIRA!!!!

[BlueSquad2001]

OR....How bout this one?????
http://i2.tinypic.com/qoviox.jpg :D
Done 4ft by 2 1/2 ft!!!! al brush work in oil!!! This is what I do for a living.

[dilbertman]

And here's another good one that I did.http://i2.tinypic.com/qovgir.jpg
Just can't beat ELVIRA!!!!
Oh she cut herself. I better kiss it and make it better.

Jim :kiss: :drool: :yikes:

[BlueSquad2001]

Oh she cut herself. I better kill it and make it better.

Jim :kiss: :drool: :yikes:
Well, then you should also like this!!!!
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovk8j.jpg

[dilbertman]

OR....How bout this one?????
http://i2.tinypic.com/qoviox.jpg :D
Done 4ft by 2 1/2 ft!!!! al brush work in oil!!! This is what I do for a living.
Now that what I call a viper pilot.

Jim :eek:

[dilbertman]

Well, then you should also like this!!!!
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovk8j.jpg
Boy she has a nice set of wings.

Jim :eek: :blush: :naughty:

[dilbertman]

Now where the cockpit and pilot?

Jim :?:

[BlueSquad2001]

BUT WAIT!!!!!!
HOW BOUT THIS INSTEAD!!!!HAD TA CUT MOST OF HER OFF JUST TA make sure that boobs an the rest did't show!!!http://i2.tinypic.com/qovmlj.jpg

[dilbertman]

BUT WAIT!!!!!!
HOW BOUT THIS INSTEAD!!!!HAD TA CUT MOST OF HER OFF JUST TA make sure that boobs an the rest did't show!!!http://i2.tinypic.com/qovmlj.jpg
Need another minute to myself.

Jim :naughty: :blush:

[BlueSquad2001]

And LAST but not least in my lil' gallery sampling!!!! Here for your visual and mental entertainment I present.... "VERONICA!!!"
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovp78.jpg :wtf:

[dilbertman]

And LAST but not least in my lil' gallery sampling!!!! Here for your visual and mental entertainment I present.... "VERONICA!!!"
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovp78.jpg :wtf:
All I can say is :eek: :blink: :nervous: :blush: :P: :drool: :naughty:

Jim :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

All I can say is :eek: :blink: :nervous: :blush: :P: :drool: :naughty:

Jim :thumbsup:
Okay...already! Give me about ten minute to go through my pics and I'll post a Viper buildup for a customer of mine out in Calif. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay, this is the original series Viper that I was commission to build-up and includes lights which I'm working on the finishing of now. The holes that you see along the canopy mechanism are for the hydralic tube works that will allow the canopy to raise and lower. It took along time to design and work out the kinks in it. I also had to rebuild the canopy so that it held the glass that I installed better. But it's not my DeSanto buid-up, but it's a work of art...or will be once finished! :D
More DeSanto Viper pics plus pilot later. Now I gots ta go cuddles my lady an drift off into oblivion!!!! Night Dilbertman!!! ;)
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovytk.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovyvn.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovyxf.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovz20.jpg

[dilbertman]

Okay, this is the original series Viper that I was commission to build-up and includes lights which I'm working on the finishing of now. The holes that you see along the canopy mechanism are for the hydralic tube works that will allow the canopy to raise and lower. It took along time to design and work out the kinks in it. I also had to rebuild the canopy so that it held the glass that I installed better. But it's not my DeSanto buid-up, but it's a work of art...or will be once finished! :D
More DeSanto Viper pics plus pilot later. Now I gots ta go cuddles my lady an drift off into oblivion!!!! Night Dilbertman!!! ;)
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovytk.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovyvn.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovyxf.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/qovz20.jpg
COOL, BS2001 :thumbsup: . Looking forward to the DeSanto Viper when your done with your woman.

Jim :muffit:

[dilbertman]

Hey check this out.

http://www.starshipbuilder.com/RefDsk/ViperTOS/index.htm

Jim

PS - Go here to.

http://www.starshipbuilder.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1099

[spcglider]

I'm an artist, and a professional, and have seen :eek: alot of demanding and whining tones BARRY! :D
And if you want info and I give it, then have the heart to respond at least say and acknowledge something in return. It's just that no one after asking seems interested enough to respond, wether simply positive or negative, or offer simple opinions and suggestions. This is'nt about ego, it's about communicating to the artist and giving comments and suggestions or even a compliment. And this is the way that all true artists with this kinda passion are. :salute:
Goodnight! :D

Michael,

Whats' to comment on? You're kicking arse here. You have to understand that if the conversation gets too drawn out, people are going to start losing interest. Its not that your work isn't any good...far far FAR from it.

But to use somewhat graphic but shared terminology, you can only tease your lover so much before she becomes numb. ;)

It very cool to see all the development going on and we are all grateful that you're givng us the inside look. But you've gotta watch out for that "next prettiest girl" both for yourself AND for your audience. She'll steal the attention away every time.

That having been said, we're all waiting patiently for the freakishly superb DeSanto Viper kit you're making. You'll have to forgive us the occasional exasperated sigh. We know it will be worth it. :thumbsup:

So, the lesson here is "Don't let frustration build and ruin a fun time. On EITHER side."

-Gordon

[spcglider]

NEW PILOT SCULPT PICS
NOT FINISHED!!
In other words, don't try to be too harse before he's complete. :D
But he's moving faster now. I'm going to do him full body in a standing pose, then cut him at the right spot so that he'll seat in the viper properly. BUT....he'll also be available to order extra to stand next to the viper. But I'm typing this now with a HUGE hole in my mouth where an enormous tooth used to be, and the laughing gas and codiene is still kicking! :rotf:
But i'm here sculpting on him now. :salute:
http://i1.tinypic.com/o9fvyr.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/o9fxio.jpg

Okay dude, Comments? You desire comments?

I think your sculpt is really cool looking.

The original helmet sculpt (from the preproduction stills) doesn't look very good. I think the detailing is overdone. I think the proportions are funky and look far too back-heavy. I think the design fits far too closely to the face and would have hampered the actors ability to reach a range of expression necessary for modern audiences. And I think the sculptor/designer was trying far too hard to "update" a helmet that needs very little to do so.

Honestly? I would have LOVED to have a shot at redesigning the helmet. But I haven't. I may consider that as a project sometime soon. If I get some time.

I haven't seen any of the other reference for the fighter pilot outfits, so there's nothing to comment upon as far as the suit goes. I hope there's some remnant of the big box-y buckles going on with the front of the "jacket". Making the whole thing too streamlined removes visual interest... especially when you're talking about shooting in hard light. No detail, no shadows. No shadows, no depth. No depth, no visual interest.

Yes, having a form-fitting flight suit is sexy. And I'm sure that the female pilots would have looked just lovely encased in flexible, form-fitting boobie traps like that (if you're into the whole latex/bondage thing). But there's a reason that certain types of clothing are cut the way they are... to help accentuate the good things and de-emphasize the bad things. And tailors over the centuries have managed to figure out a very refined system of making that happen. Remember the first season of ST:NG?

Gene Roddenberry wanted to put everybody into skin-tight jumpsuits. He had a thing for the jumpsuit. He thought it was the coolest thing ever. The problem is that a one-piece garment is about the most inefficient way to clothe a human being. Just ask any WOMAN who has been forced to wear a jumpsuit. They'll rip your ear off telling you exactly what you can do with a jumpsuit and where it will fit in your designer's anatomy.

The other problem with skin-tight wardrobe is that it accentuates the DIFFERENCES in everyone's body type in your cast. You don't want that. If you're dealing with a military look, you want everyone (at least from the neck down) to have a similar line to their uniform. And military uniforms are what we're talking about here. When properly fitted, a military uniform should look just as good on a short person with a long waist as it does on a tall person with short legs.

Can't do that with a jumpsuit unless you pad and tailor each and every suit (like they did for season one of ST:NG. And then they started getting into trouble with the cast gaining weight and aging. Expensive. That's why they switched to the tunic/pants combo almost immediately. Notice that nobody ever wore the "skant" version of the uniform after season one? Thats because it just looked stupid. Very few people have photogenic knees.

Okay, I know we're talking about a suit that'd only be worn in the cockpit, but the production would eventually need to show them in the suits outside the cockpit. Best to just deal with the problem from an overall standpoint at square one.

-G

[dilbertman]

Honestly? I would have LOVED to have a shot at redesigning the helmet. But I haven't. I may consider that as a project sometime soon. If I get some time.
-G
I say, Go For It!

Jim :thumbsup:

[BlueSquad2001]

I say, Go For It!

Jim :thumbsup:Go for it????? Go for what? I missed that Dilbertman!
And thanks Gordon, but....do I do it liike he designed, or do it like I'd like to see it?????? Big question! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay, I know. And I think that you should do a new helmet Gordon. :salute:

[peter noble]

Okay, I know. And I think that you should do a new helmet Gordon. :salute:

I agree with my learned friends above. I want to see Gordon take a crack at it. He's got the talent, the passion and the experience, but not the time.

But yes, I think Gordon's the man for the job. We've seen his finished products but we ain't seen any of his etchings yet.

Gordon, show us your etchings! ;)

Best,

Peter

[Sept17th]

I would be thrilled to use a DeSanto take on the original helmet in my film.

[BlueSquad2001]

I would be thrilled to use a DeSanto take on the original helmet in my film.
Was'nt it you, that had recently asked me for a phone conversation?
And did you not get my P.M.??
Anyway, I have been repeatedly informed that you needed to talk to me, but never called? Must not have been that important? :D

[Sept17th]

I'm back in Korea again till late April, calls back to the states are difficult. When I was home last month there where a few I coudn't reach about the fan film.

[spcglider]

I will try to get some ideas down on paper soon. The thing is that I don't have anything against the overall detailing of the Desanto helmet. I just think it looks out of proportion and back-heavy. But that just may be the way the sculptor interpreted it.

But I have a few ideas about what I would have done on my own, so I'll get them on paper first. I'll try to do that sometime this week while I'm thinking about it.

-G

[peter noble]

I will try to get some ideas down on paper soon. The thing is that I don't have anything against the overall detailing of the Desanto helmet. I just think it looks out of proportion and back-heavy. But that just may be the way the sculptor interpreted it.

But I have a few ideas about what I would have done on my own, so I'll get them on paper first. I'll try to do that sometime this week while I'm thinking about it.

-G

Great, I'm looking forward to it.

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

Great, I'm looking forward to it.

Best,

PeterThat sounds like a plan that could lead somewhere!
Hi Peter! Hope all is well with you. Just ordered the last batch of silicone today and it is finished! The Viper will ship, I and Terri are aiming for the first of the week. And when the very first full parts are cast, even hopefully before the first of the week, we will ready the boxes and ship what we have ready!!! :D
I'm excited!!!!!! :rotf:
The Raider is already being constructed, and a new thread on that wil be started shortly. All I can say is....."It's a BIG ship!!!!" :wtf:

[BlueSquad2001]

By the way, the Raiders body alone is 17 1/8 wide by 13 1/4 long! It's BIG!!! :D

[peter noble]

Cool, and – how big!!! :eek:

Best,

Peter

[spcglider]

Thats some serious size issues there. But hey, that makes an impressive model.

I still need to get a Studio Scale TOS Viper. The Desanto raider will have to wait a bit for me.

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

Cool, and – how big!!! :eek:

Best,

Peter
The BIGGER....The Better!

[BlueSquad2001]

Thats some serious size issues there. But hey, that makes an impressive model.

I still need to get a Studio Scale TOS Viper. The Desanto raider will have to wait a bit for me.

-GGordon....Call me on this! ;)

[Aussieviper]

Hi all, WOW!!! Does this mean the Desanto Vipers are just about ready??!! :cool:
That rocks!! I think I am last in line for the pre order though! Bluesquad, you are a bad man, waving a studio scale raider under our noses as well! Time for me to drop to my knees and plead with my minister for war and finance, to try and justify why we need one! Can't wait to see the soon to be shipped viper and looking forward to following the progress of the raider as well. Cheers from down under, Chris

[BlueSquad2001]

Hi all, WOW!!! Does this mean the Desanto Vipers are just about ready??!! :cool:
That rocks!! I think I am last in line for the pre order though! Bluesquad, you are a bad man, waving a studio scale raider under our noses as well! Time for me to drop to my knees and plead with my minister for war and finance, to try and justify why we need one! Can't wait to see the soon to be shipped viper and looking forward to following the progress of the raider as well. Cheers from down under, Chris
Yes they are just about ready. And, it'll be worth the wait. I learned alot of lessons while casting this, and do not make the same mistakes twice! :D
The Raider is practically falling together. And will follow quickly on the Vipers tail!

[peter noble]

That's one hell of an accelerated learning curve you've been through Michael!

Best,

Peter

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I got a HUGE kick looking at the ass end of this thing. I love seeing my CG work turn into something physical.

Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

I got a HUGE kick looking at the ass end of this thing. I love seeing my CG work turn into something physical.

Sandy
I did'nt use any C.G. work???? :wtf: I don't understand. The only images that I have and used on the Raider are direct final designs from Tom D. :D You never sent anything to me Sandy? ;) I'm confused. :D

[TwoBrainedCylon]

My bad. Poor timing on my part.

I was referring to the back of the DeSanto viper which seemd to be about 2/3rds of the ass end of what I created for the ROS CG viper.

Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

My bad. Poor timing on my part.

I was referring to the back of the DeSanto viper which seemd to be about 2/3rds of the ass end of what I created for the ROS CG viper.

SandyThe TwoBrainedCylon said "My Bad!" That's too cool! :rotf:

[BlueSquad2001]

PILOT PICS!!!
Oooops! Should have posted sooner. But here he is, and nearly complete!
This has been a PAIN IN THE A*$!!! :D
But, the pilot is turning out good, and the standing male and female versions will be killer.
Also, with the Raider, will be Cylon pilots. And offered seperately standing versions. :salute:
Rob at Sci-Fi Models is going to cast these.
http://i2.tinypic.com/raafxc.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/raag6f.jpg

[peter noble]

Michael, that's turned out really, really well.

Sounds like you struggled with it for a bit but you've certainly overcome any problems you had.

Best,

Peter

[BlueSquad2001]

Michael, that's turned out really, really well.

Sounds like you struggled with it for a bit but you've certainly overcome any problems you had.

Best,

PeterThanks Peter! Ireally appreciate your and everyones compliments and suggestions.
Could'nt sleep, so kept messin' with Terri, keeping her awake by singing stupid songs. :D
So I decided I'd get back to my sculpting and take some sleep aid and hopefully clear my head so that I can sleep. Hell, it's 4:29a.m. here now, and i just realized, I'm blah-blah-blah about nothing. ;)

[BlueSquad2001]

PICS THAT NEVER MADE IT HERE!
I had actually just for fun, took these pics and sent them to Peter while on the phone with him. I had forgotten that I had them. Will look later to see if there are other that I have'nt posted yet.
http://i2.tinypic.com/r950cg.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/r950fl.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

More pics comin' up soon. :salute:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I can't view any of the pics you've posted on this last page.

Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

I don't know why this happened???
But here goes the pics again. :salute:
http://i2.tinypic.com/raag6f.jpg

[BlueSquad2001]

This tinypic hosting is just not working??? Anyone know of a better pic hosting site??? :wtf:

[BlueSquad2001]

Now they are showing up! :D
Maybe they're site was down.

[dilbertman]

U done yet?

Jim :duck:

[BlueSquad2001]

U done yet?

Jim :duck:
You can tell the whole freakin' world, that I have'nt even begun!!! :D
But for all to know. The Viper is complete! I'm still waiting for my last silicone shipment to arrive, and it is Mon. I'm still hoping to ship by the weeks end. Will keep you all posted on that. The pilot just needs arms and he is done. :salute:

[spcglider]

YAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!

Groovy beyond all grooves.

-G

[peter noble]

You can tell the whole freakin' world, that I have'nt even begun!!! :D

Be here next week, when Michael single-handedly invades Poland! :LOL:

[BlueSquad2001]

Be here next week, when Michael single-handedly invades Poland! :LOL:
AND I HAVE"NT! I'M ABOUT TO CORNER THE MARKET!!! AND...... TAKE POLAND!!! :salute:
Here the one bit of detail that all you modelers have to know. On these small flush vents, on the intake housing, you'll need to cut small triangular strips of styrene 3 in each to detail these areas. They just would not come out right in the casting process. So, it's better to just add them on, it looks much better this way.
Heres a pic of that detail. They will be sanded flush at the ends to smooth out things.

http://i2.tinypic.com/rbmzjp.jpg

[spcglider]

WHAT??? You mean I'll actually have to exercise some model building skills in putting that together???

Well screw that! Count me OUT!








Just jokin! :D



-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

WHAT??? You mean I'll actually have to exercise some model building skills in putting that together???

Well screw that! Count me OUT!
OKIE DOKIE! :D

But here are a few final pics, that I got an e-mail requesting these angles. If you have an angle that you'd like to see, just shoot me a message. Enjoy. :salute:

http://i2.tinypic.com/rbwh01.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/rbwh87.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/rbwhhy.jpg

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I'll use these pics for the AllGalactica article. I'll also whip one up on the centurion and raider.

I still need text -- or I can come up with a draft and have you flush it out.

Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

I'll use these pics for the AllGalactica article. I'll also whip one up on the centurion and raider.

I still need text -- or I can come up with a draft and have you flush it out.

Sandy
Sandy, here's the deal. I did'nt exactly feel the time was right to begin to answer all the questions and detail out the progress and history of this fighter, because I was still going through so much with Tom and all and getting things in stone.
But, I'm prepared tonight to begin the writing of the why's and what's and how's of this viper model and have something to you by tomorrow. I'll have to split up the building pics as there are many. And most have never been seen on the Fleets or anywhere else. Tons of pics. Give me an idea of what you want the story on this to be like and shoot me an e-mail, I'll take care of it from there.
Mike

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Mike,

Sounds good. I won't be able to touch anything until Sat or next week.

I'll give you a call sometime later in the week. When's a good time?


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

Mike,

Sounds good. I won't be able to touch anything until Sat or next week.

I'll give you a call sometime later in the week. When's a good time?


Sandy
Anytime is good. :salute:

[Aussieviper]

Hi ya Mike, that Viper is looking awesome. I am getting itchy fingers! I can't wait to see it up close. Does it still look like shipping at the end of the week? That would be cool!! I'm kinda hoping to be the only one down under to have one! I dare say though a few others down here will want one. Will you be keeping the production lines open for a while, or will you just do the one run? Same for the Desanto raider, I would love one, but have recently made a few huge purchases, (27 inch Valdore, 30 inch new Cylon Basestar etc) What other kits do you plan on draining my wallet with??!! Damn the exchange rate!! Cheers, Chris

[BlueSquad2001]

Just to let you all know. The silicone still has not arrived. We are just held up by that. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

WE GOT THE SILICONE!!!!
That means, yes we are again late, but will be able to ship mid-week! :D
Check your e-mail Dilbertman!!! :wtf:

[dilbertman]

Good for you. Now make our Vipers dammit!

Jim :rage:

PS - Check your own email!

[spcglider]

Imagine that famous Disney tune to these lyrics:

Sooome Daaay my KITS will come! Sooome Daaaaaaaay my KITS will come! la de dah, dee dee dah!

-Gordon LOL

[BlueSquad2001]

Good for you. Now make our Vipers dammit!

Jim :rage:

PS - Check your own email!
Very funny guys! :D

[BlueSquad2001]

Am about to keep this thread going with the build-up details that I'm doing for Dilbertman, Tom Desanto, and Kurts Viper. These will feature lit cockpits and engines. Will begin posting on this as soon as we start shipping. :salute:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Ahem ... How do I get on that delivery list again?


Sandy

[BlueSquad2001]

Ahem ... How do I get on that delivery list again?


Sandy
Give me a ring Sandy! :D
Check your P.M.'s! :salute:

[Aussieviper]

Hi Mike, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet????!!! How are the kits looking? Any new pics? Can't wait to see! Cheers, Chris :)

[BlueSquad2001]

Hi Mike, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet????!!! How are the kits looking? Any new pics? Can't wait to see! Cheers, Chris :)
As Gordon Spcglider would say....."okay you kids, settle down now or I'll turn this thread around!"
The mailing will begin for sure Monday of next week. The reason it's still delayed is because we are in the learning and growing process, which I'm sure Spcglider will let all of you know that being my first kit, it was a huge and often held up learning process and undertaking. But since that mountain has been scaled, all is moving faster and more efficient.
The following is a list of all in order to recieve their Vipers! They are getting set to fly! This is for pre-orders only! All others will be sent following.
1.Cristopher (Aussie Viper)
2.Robert Burns
3.Peter Noble! ;)
4. Christopher (Dobber!)
5.Starship Modeler
6.Barry Lewis
7.Gordon (Spcglider)
8.Tony Augustin
All others on pre-order has also purchased build-up services with lights and full weathering.
1. Dilbertman (2)
2. Kurt...(You know who you are! :D )
3. And Tom DeSanto ( ;) )

[Darrell Lawrence]

*blink*

[peter noble]

>Doing a happy dance right now!<

[Aussieviper]

Woohoo!!! Outstanding Mike, can't wait to see her! :muffit: I would do a victory dance like my little friend here. but people are watching :blush: I take it you still have all my details to get the Viper 'down under'?

[BlueSquad2001]

Woohoo!!! Outstanding Mike, can't wait to see her! :muffit: I would do a victory dance like my little friend here. but people are watching :blush: I take it you still have all my details to get the Viper 'down under'?
Huh??? Now who are you again exactly???? This is strange, are you sure you ordered a Viper from me?

[Darrell Lawrence]

Well... you *do* have him on your list :)

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showpost.php?p=239474&postcount=481

[BlueSquad2001]

Well... you *do* have him on your list :)

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showpost.php?p=239474&postcount=481
OH YEAH!!!
I do don't I? :D

[Darrell Lawrence]

Too many fumes... way too many fumes... :LOL:

[dilbertman]

As Gordon Spcglider would say....."okay you kids, settle down now or I'll turn this thread around!"
The mailing will begin for sure Monday of next week. The reason it's still delayed is because we are in the learning and growing process, which I'm sure Spcglider will let all of you know that being my first kit, it was a huge and often held up learning process and undertaking. But since that mountain has been scaled, all is moving faster and more efficient.
The following is a list of all in order to recieve their Vipers! They are getting set to fly! This is for pre-orders only! All others will be sent following.
1.Cristopher (Aussie Viper)
2.Robert Burns
3.Peter Noble! ;)
4. Christopher (Dobber!)
5.Starship Modeler
6.Barry Lewis
7.Gordon (Spcglider)
8.Tony Augustin
All others on pre-order has also purchased build-up services with lights and full weathering.
1. Dilbertman (2)
2. Kurt...(You know who you are! :D )
3. And Tom DeSanto ( ;) )
I don't think that DeSanto guy should get a Viper. What has he done for Galactica anyways?

Jim :rotf: :duck:

[BlueSquad2001]

I don't think that DeSanto guy should get a Viper. What has he done for Galactica anyways?

Jim :rotf: :duck:
Okay...this is for Tom DeSanto!

:viper: :Ncylon:

[Darrell Lawrence]

I did note a name missing on the list... *sniffles* :cry:

[dilbertman]

Okay...this is for Tom DeSanto!

:viper: :Ncylon:
Just Kidding. Now go back to work!

Jim :beer:

[BlueSquad2001]

I did note a name missing on the list... *sniffles* :cry:
Uh Warrior....that is the (pre-order) list. You did'nt do a pre-order according to Warriorchemist (A.K.A) Terri. :wtf:

[Darrell Lawrence]

I know :)

[spcglider]

Once again... a hush settles over the room.

-G

[BlueSquad2001]

Once again... a hush settles over the room.

-G
Just waiting for the boxes everyone. The time is almost here. I will not say another thing here until they ship. And I'll be proud of that. :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Just waiting for the boxes everyone. The time is almost here. I will not say another thing here until they ship. And I'll be proud of that. :salute:
Oh.....and then I have some "BIG" anouncements to make. :D

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Just waiting for the boxes everyone. The time is almost here. I will not say another thing here until they ship. And I'll be proud of that. :salute:

Boxes??? You told me mine was going to come in a paper bag? Why does everyone else get boxes?


Sandy

[spcglider]

Oh yeah? Well Michael told me that mine would come wrapped in a cow pie and broken glass and that I'd better like it or else!

:P

-Gordon

[dilbertman]

Oh.....and then I have some "BIG" anouncements to make. :D
How BIG Mike?

Jim