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Old October 6th, 2004, 02:20 PM   #1
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Default U.S. Report Finds No Evidence of Iraq WMD

U.S. Report Finds No Evidence of Iraq WMD

WASHINGTON - Contradicting the main argument for a war that has cost more than 1,000 American lives, the top U.S. arms inspector said Wednesday he found no evidence that Iraq produced any weapons of mass destruction after 1991. He also concluded that Saddam Hussein's capabilities to develop such weapon had dimmed — not grown — during a dozen years of sanctions before last year's U.S. invasion.


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Old October 6th, 2004, 07:41 PM   #2
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I hope people remember this on election day.


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Old October 6th, 2004, 08:05 PM   #3
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saddam needed to be removed!

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Old October 6th, 2004, 08:38 PM   #4
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Tell that to the families of the 1000+ service men and women who died needlessly removing a toothless tiger like Saddam.
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12 years is a very long window of opportunity to remove any evidence of such systems.

Where was this report? In Saddam's bunker? I find it very convenient, for this report to have just been completed and released 4 weeks before the election.

...oh, and yes, I will remember this on Election Day.

Bush had my vote before this report

Bush HAS my vote after it!

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I think he had it. Then he realized he didn't need it. He needed people to be scared of him. But he knew if he used them, America would invade him. If they found WMA, we would invade him. So having them was useless. But people BELIEVED and were scared of him. That's all he really needed.

I think he got rid of them, then bluffed us into thinking he still had them. He publically stated he didn't have them. He removed them. But then he planted seeds that looked like he still had them.

Backfired. He thought France and Russia and Germany could stop us.

Frankly...we were HAD.

Luckily Bush did an incompetent job of weighing whether we should invade. He was bullheaded. And glossed over the "truth."

We won....sort of....
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Old October 7th, 2004, 03:50 AM   #7
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Tell that to the families of the 1000+ service men and women who died needlessly removing a toothless tiger like Saddam.

Bijou I agree with you!



Tell that to my next door neighbor who's son died over there. Tell that to my sister's friend who came back from Iraq a different person than we all knew him. I only agree with getting rid of Saddam but there was and is no reason why we should still be there! Bush is gone in November as far as I am concerned. He hasn't helped our economy or energy prices either!
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Old October 7th, 2004, 07:13 AM   #8
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Yes, many friends and families of lost soldiers are probably very upset and probably mad at the current administration for this seeming contradiction about the WMDs, BUT, there are just as many who are proud and supportive of the military's mission in Iraq and other parts of the world...I can't believe that anyone would actually support leaving that guy in power and doing nothing to stop his terrorist activities...

Saddam is a terrorrist and he harbored terrorists in his terrorist camps in Iraq. He paid off families of suicide bombers, for pete's sake!!!!!

And don't forget, back in 1998 or so, reports given to the United Nations (yes, read that correctly, the UN, not the U.S.) said that Saddam has the capacity to make and use WMD and therefore had sanctions placed upon him. He has used biological and chemical weapons on his own people and others!!!

I do hope you remember that on election day. Saddam is no longer a threat...that's a big start in the right direction toward ridding this world of the greater terrorist threat.
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Sorry but your view isn't changing my vote. This country had no right sticking their noses in where it didn't belong! Bush got us into this mess for all the wrong reasons and he'll never get us out as long as his fat cat friends are making huge profits from a war we should have never been in! The guys and gals coming home from this war are going to be treated just like the Vietnam Vets! Watch and see how the country feels about them after this is all over!
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The guys and gals coming home from this war are going to be treated just like the Vietnam Vets! Watch and see how the country feels about them after this is all over!
While I agree with your sentiments about the war I don't think this is necessarily true. I think (hope) the country learned it's lesson from Vietnam in terms of viewing the soldiers as seperate from the policy makers. Despite my persoanl feelings about the war, I think the men and women in uniform are brave folks who volunteered knowing the risks and are deserving of respect regardless of how they were led.

I have colleages who work with returning vets and of the things they're describing, that kind of treatment hasn't figured into it. I realize that this is ancedotal, but it squares with some other things I've seen, FWIW.
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I think the biggest problem with Bush going to war, wnd this isn't addressed by Kerry, is that he was so eager to go to war, that he didn't plan for the aftermath. We had time. He was caged. We could have spent a year preparing for the post-war Iraq. We were COMPLETELY unprepared for the postWar. No planning.

We should have waited and worked that part out. Then maybe we wouldn't be in the horrible position we are in today.

I may not like Kerry. But Bush definitely could have learned a thing or two about War. Bush lacks a grasp of just how horrible it is. He kinda knows...but there is a disconnection there.
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And, for the record, there are some of those weapons in Iraq. There are no stockpiles of them.

There certainly aren't enough to be as widespread a threat as was made out to be.

I have grave concerns about and for my country when I cannot respect either of the men running to head it.

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i have two cousins that have been in irag, or currently seving there. they tell a differnt story then the crap the t.v. news tells, they tell of a people that is happy to have the u.s. troops there, they tell of a nation that for the first time in over twenty years has a hope of having a government they elected. yes there is bad that comes from war, but the good out ways that.

also my uncle was killed in vietnam another so called useless war, and i am very proud of him and his service.
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I would be curious as the the political leanings of those publishing this report.
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I believe it was on the comcast site (www.comcast.net) earlier today; I was at work. The most inflammatory language was in the first few paragraphs, but if you read the entire story it is revealed that there are individual warheads and the like that have been discovered. Leftovers or unexploded ordinance or some such. I don't now recall the exact language, but it really isn't the blanket "no weapons" statement some would have you believe.

I urge everyone to read the entire article from whatever source they get it. The chemical weapons, at least. were there, just not in the quantity that they constituted the threat we were lead to believe.

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That sentiment would be applicable to both political parties, would it not?

I could expand on this but, this is not the thread nor the place for that.
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I believe it was on the comcast site (www.comcast.net) earlier today; I was at work. The most inflammatory language was in the first few paragraphs, but if you read the entire story it is revealed that there are individual warheads and the like that have been discovered. Leftovers or unexploded ordinance or some such. I don't now recall the exact language, but it really isn't the blanket "no weapons" statement some would have you believe.

I urge everyone to read the entire article from whatever source they get it. The chemical weapons, at least. were there, just not in the quantity that they constituted the threat we were lead to believe.

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I think he had it. Then he realized he didn't need it. He needed people to be scared of him. But he knew if he used them, America would invade him. If they found WMA, we would invade him. So having them was useless. But people BELIEVED and were scared of him. That's all he really needed.

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Backfired. He thought France and Russia and Germany could stop us.

Frankly...we were HAD.

Luckily Bush did an incompetent job of weighing whether we should invade. He was bullheaded. And glossed over the "truth."

We won....sort of....
France,Germany and ofcourse Russia have huge investments in the oil prduction in the Ramayla Oil fields, the UK's first mission was to releif in place from us forces there on day 1!(ie h-hr +24)so they could push on to Bag. Just to reasure them that there interests were protected.money money money oil oil oil.
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Truth and reality in television news is not what you think it is...pick up a copy of Bernard Goldberg's book, "Bias" and you'll learn something...
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i have two cousins that have been in irag, or currently seving there. they tell a differnt story then the crap the t.v. news tells, they tell of a people that is happy to have the u.s. troops there, they tell of a nation that for the first time in over twenty years has a hope of having a government they elected. yes there is bad that comes from war, but the good out ways that.

My wife's uncle was at Baghdad Int'l. as a civilain security contractor shortly after President Bush declared the end of major combat (he was working the checkpoint that Saddam's sons' bodies were brought thru) and said basically the same thing.

Faulty intel is the problem here, not President Bush's attitude. No real surprise to me, after Clinton gutted the intel community there were bound to be problems.

No way I'm gonna vote for Kerry. Not after he insulted ALL the Vietnam Vets (My Dad included) with his testmony in front of Congress. Called them ALL baby killers. Traitor. No better than Jane Fonda.
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