How do you like Galactica? post miniseries airing

[thomas7g]

Just taking a poll. Please select which one is you.

[amberstar]

Tom I don't see any choices...........

Amber

[thomas7g]

I was indecisiive making the options up. :)

[koenigrules]

I would support a continuation/revival of the old, but also LOVE the new.
By the way, nice to see you guys back up!! :)

[Sci-Fi]

I voted for both (TOS and Mini), and would like to see as much as the old cast "Launch When Ready" in their Vipers one or more times. Hope the Mini gets the official greenlight soon. And I also would be supportive/receptive to a Battlestar Pegasus movie too (est in 2006?).
:salute: :superholy

[RommieSG]

I voted for the third option. Looking forward to both productions going forward in their endeavours.

Rommie :cylon:

[Stevew]

Tom
Are we back on line?
:confused:
S

[Jayworld]

I voted for the first option. I certainly don't begrudge anyone if they liked the mini series, and I certainly don't "blame" anyone except for Bonnnie Hammer, Sci-Fi, and Universal for the decision of the mini-series in the first place. The mini-series has done one positive thing for me (a total TOS supporter); it has brought even more name recognition to the Battlestar Galactica franchise. Now I can enjoy the new Rittenhouse card set (very, very impressive), as well as the PS2 game and TOS DVD boxed set.

Looking forward to the new action figures later this year of TOS....

Thanks,
Jayworld

[Lusitan]

Voted first option.
I've been reading too much fanfic to know it could have been done alot better.

[Gemini1999]

I voted for the second option...

I enjoy TOS with the greatest of enthusiasm - the mini didn't thrill me, but I can live with it being out there, I just hope that they make the best of it while it's there. I really want to see a continuation film - I would love to see how it would do at the box office!

Bryan
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[Titon]

I put my vote in for the original, always will be the best in my eyes.

The mini is a shell of the original

[Dawg]

Only one way to vote for me.

Just you guess which. ;)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[jewels]

I voted for the original, with the mini as a ripoff. That's because I see putting the Galactica name on Moore's work as having been done for pure marketing name recognition.

But I have no qualms about the mini going to series if it does. It is a blessing that they deviated so far that the TOS universe was untouched. I'm sure it wasn't meant to happen that way but it gives me hope for a continuation....everything else weird has happened to this property, why not?

I still believe our ships have a phoenix complex and they will return to the screen.

Jewels

[Titon]

I voted for the original, with the mini as a ripoff. That's because I see putting the Galactica name on Moore's work as having been done for pure marketing name recognition.

Amen Sister!

I'm back baby!

;)

[Lurkerzrule]

I not sure "support" the mini-series accurate for what I feel toward it. The new mini, IMHO, had elements that were done well. Also, IMO, It wasn't all it was hyped to be. I believe it is following the trends, that some writers of TV are taking, that you have to write and film all the sex, violence and show it to the viewers because the viewers lack imagination and intelligence to figure out the valid story plotpoints for themselves.

The above being said, I would/will watch the mini to see where they intend to take it. So, my ^ to my vote is : I love the Original Battlestar Galactica, will support a continuation of BSG TOS, but would/will just watch the new mini for now. :)

[Tibbetts]

I think both the old and the new should be made. :D I want to see at least a Continuation Movie and the newBSG series on Sci-Fi Channel in 2004. More fans that find Battlestar Galactica the better!

TO: Don & Tom,

Thanks for bringing back Colonial Fleets. I hope this works out. Bring on Battlestar Galactica in any form! :D

With Utmost Respect,

Dragon Lord Tibbetts :salute:

[repcisg]

The new show is a pain I can live with, the old show is a timeless classic!

[shiningstar]

I think you can guess which way I voted ;)

[Imagination]

I like them both!

[Ethan]

Okay, like I've said before . . .

"I want to say that I like (note the present tense, as if things never really ended) TOS. I also like the Mini. I am also interested in a contiuation, a spin off of the Battlestar Pegasus, and many of the other fan fiction that I have read. As a matter of fact, I would even be open to mixing some of them. Just imagine, The Ships of Light kidnap Tyrol and Sharon, and bring them to TOS universe where Sharon's knowledge of Cylons could prevent Apollo from being Clone bait! Its far fetched, I know, but I have an active imagination."

One of the things that irked me about the new show was that I couldn't feel comfortable sharing it with my 5-year-old son. Besides that, it is just another piece of fan fiction IMO (In My Opinion, right?). What I like the most about CF is that I saw a lot of people supporting each other, even though sometimes they were trying to be supportive despite the negative experiences. I didn't see anything serious until . .

Well, lets not go there. What I like about CF is that it is mostly a positive, upbeat type of place. I think we need more of that. If this site starts focusing one one thing (like art for example), so be it. Just as long as it remains postive.

Thats what I like.

[shiningstar]

Ethan welcome to the fleet. I "LIKE" your imagination :thumbsup:

[bsg1fan1975]

I think a few of you know how I voted!

[shiningstar]

I think so too BSG :thumbsup:

[amberstar]

I can see them now :)

I voted for #1. That's just how I feel, but it doesn't bother me any more that the mini is there. This world is big enough for both.
With time we should soon see Galactica the way it was ment to be, or the way I would love tosee it.
((( Desanto/ Larson))) ;)

Amber

PS Good to see you back Don!

[shiningstar]

Me too Amberstar!

[shiningstar]

By the way Amberstar .......welcome home. :salute: :warrior: :salute:

[amberstar]

It's been too long Shiningstar, Great to see you again!!!!!!!!!

Amberstar

[thomas7g]

interesting poll sofar. :)

Absolutely no votes against the continuation movie being made. I was hoping for that.

[shiningstar]

I like it ........ the poll I mean.

[jewels]

What's interesting too is if you add the ambivelent, the enhs, and the I want boths: you end up with a tie with the mini is a ripoff.

I voted ripoff because to me the content was entirely new, characters essentially new. If the thing goes to series or they somehow do more of it: fine, no worries and no problems from me about that, it can exist. The name is just misfortunately applied. IMO.

All I'm trying to say is those dingleberries in Hollywood have themselves 2 viable franchises: go make more. ;) I love that no one voted against a continuation of some sort.

[BST]

For me, #1 is the only possibility. I can "deal with" the mini having been made and having aired (thanks Katee :rolleyes: ). What I can't agree with is that it's BSG. It's like watching a movie advertised as a "WW II" movie, set in Vietnam, and telling me that the Vietnamese are Germans and Hanoi is Berlin. Granted it's a war movie but, that's where the similarity ends.

[tracyb144]

I chose the first option :)

Tracy

[shiningstar]

Me too Tracyb welcome to the fleets by the way. :thumbsup:

[shiningstar]

I agree with that Bst. As always your posts are concise and to the point!

[thomas7g]

it looks like about half the folks so far didn't like the miniseries, but there is a large proportion of fans that like both.

[Starbuck]

I voted for #1. :girl:

[shiningstar]

me too Starbuck

[avalonmistmoon]

I like TOS but love the mini :thumbsup: Can't wait till the series start. I haven't been this excited about a series since Stargate SG-1.

I look forward to EJO as Commander Adama though Lorne Greene will always have a soft spot in my heart as the original Adama. I think EJO is a more realistic.

Can't wait...can't wait...can't wait..... :)

[Muffit]

I love your moniker avalonmistmoon! Never saw a handle so evocative. Makes me envision the mortally wounded Arthur sailing away into legend...

:muffit:

[Stray Viper]

#2. I don't support the mini, so I can't go with three; and I don't wish to have a strong opinion against the mini itself, because it is working for us in some ways, so I couldn't go with one.

[Gemini1999]

#2. I don't support the mini, so I can't go with three; and I don't wish to have a strong opinion against the mini itself, because it is working for us in some ways, so I couldn't go with one.

Stray Viper -

At last....someone that agrees with me - I was getting all loneley with my choice. I couldn't have worded it better...

Bryan
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[ViperTech]

I voted for #2, just because I enjoyed the mini, but I wish they would have left it at that. Making the mini into a full series is a bummer.

[Ethan]

Ah, Ha! :thumbsup:

This is where I meant to put these comments . . .

Okay, if Titon can 'come clean' about not being 'squeaky clean', . . .

("Now it's time to get "me" back." . . . )

then I can too. Check this out:

I like TOS because is was a TV show that my family watched together. We all enjoyed it. Despite what I like about the Mini, I don't feel comfortable watching it with my 5-year-old son. Battlestar Galactica was sometimes our "Family Home Evening", . . . yeah, thats right, I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Sure I could identify with all the Mormon hints that Glen Larson dropped in the story, but at the same time, ALL my friends liked the show too. Not only is it something like, Science Fiction, but my family liked it and my friends liked it too. I was as if the whole world came together in one big happy convention.

Why would I like and support a continuation? Because I believe that Glen Larson and Richard Hatch and Tom DeSanto would want to make a production that more than one age group could enjoy. I would support a Continuation because I believe that chances are that I could probably sit down with my son to watch some quality entertainment.

So, hows that for "Squeaky Clean"?

And with that being said, I will log off now and go watch The Hand of God with my son. I look forward to seeing what kinds of replies this message will get. I hope that I won't get flamed, or as Michael Savage calls it, assaulted with "verbal arson". I only now have felt medium-comfortable about saying what I feel.

Whew, that was too much. Time for some 'Starbuck time'.

Ethan

Of course since I wrote these words, I have already watched Hand of God. I treasure my 'Starbuck time'. :D

As I asked previously, "So, hows that for "Squeaky Clean"?".

Ethan :cool:

[Titon]

Will, assuming an RDM series happens, fans of that incarnation have a place, or is that something best left for other boards more uniform in their fandom?

I can smell the downy!

:D

[Fingers]

Oh definitely number one.

Just been watching the dvd's (birthday present) and how could Moore et al mess with it like they have done?

Call it something else - anything but not GALACTICA !

Fingers :warrior:

[Muffit]

Hello Fingers! :)

:muffit:

[nccdee]

The mini works for me. If it helps launch Hatch/Larson project, go for it, I'll watch.

nccdee

[shiningstar]

Welcome to the fleets fingers :D

[Antelope]

Thus far the poll pretty much validates what I have though about Battlestar Galactica fans. About half the people like the mini and half don't but more importantly about 80% of the mini fans are TOS fans. If half the regular posters here today came because of the mini you increased your TOS/Continuation internet fan base by 40% thanks to the mini. I call that a very positive development for any continuation effort and the franchise in general. 8 out of 10 newbies are your brothers, many just didn't realize it.

[koenigrules]

Based on these poll results to date, I believe any continuation efforts of TOS will be based on the reactions of fans (and viewers) to the mini, some of which love the original series.
We can't separate out the two groups anymore if we want Galactica in all its forms & incarnations!
So Say We All! and With the Blessings of the Lords of Kobol!

[koenigrules]

P.S. I am a fan of the original. I purchased the oversized Cylon helmeted DVD set and the 4 volume Galactica CD by Stu Phillips. While $80.00, its worth it. It not only contains the pilot soundtrack, but scores from most of the episodes. You can purchase it at www.footlight.com. Its worth it!!!

[Darth Marley]

My only copy of the Stu Phillips soundtrack is on 8-track tape.

[koenigrules]

There is also a cheaper CD of BSG: TOS pilot which was re-released right before the mini aired. You can also purchase it at www.footlight.com. I believe it is under $19.

[Dawg]

There is also a cheaper CD of BSG: TOS pilot which was re-released right before the mini aired. You can also purchase it at www.footlight.com. I believe it is under $19.

Actually, that's the feature film that was recut from the 3-hour pilot, Saga of a Star World. It was this film that first got released in Europe and Canada (if I'm not mistaken), and around the US. It does not contain all of the footage that can be seen in the pilot on the DVD boxed set.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[jewels]

Me too Tracyb welcome to the fleets by the way. :thumbsup:
Shiningstar, Tracy's the real Starbuck's webmistress. www.dirkbenedictcentral.com She's family. :D

Good to hear from you Tracy. Any word on if Dirk's overcome the inertia between himself and his next bit of writing? (has he set pen to paper or fingers to keyboard yet? Or if you are any closer to the audiobook order for the "Fishing" book?

Jewels

[shiningstar]

Well we can hope Koenigrules.

[emerita]

I voted for the original. The mini bored me enough to turn it off.

[shiningstar]

My mother in law wanted to watch the mini ....... the only problem was
that it's TV14 rating blocked it from her new TV ;)

[thomas7g]

it looks like TWO-THIRDS of BG1 fans didn't like BG03.

BUT A THIRD DID!!!!

:eek:

That's important if you want to support the idea of a continuation movie right?
;)

(Though fan based suppoert don't seem THAT effective)

[repcisg]

How do I like my Galactica?

Well, like a gator on skis ripping through the heavens, with Commander Apollo on her bridge and Colonel Starbuck by his side. Intrepid warriors slipping through the void in their trusty Vipers, seeking that shining planet known as Earth.

Yea, that’s my vision.

[amberstar]

:thumbsup: I like your vision repcisg!!

Amberstar

[callsignfalcon]

Whoooo hoo! Colonial fleets is up and running! :)

I like it all BSG03, BSG:TOS, and i support a movie and a continuation...never seen G80 so no comment on it.

[Muffit]

Welcome back callsignfalcon! Good to have you here! :)

:muffit:

[shiningstar]

Not bad Repcisg..............not a bad vision at all.

[shiningstar]

welcome home call sign falcon :thumbsup:

[callsignfalcon]

thank you! It's good to be back :)

[thomas7g]

Good to have you all back! :D

[ojai22]

I can see only Poll Results. Where is the place to vote?

Thanks....ojai22

[tracyb144]

Shiningstar, Tracy's the real Starbuck's webmistress. www.dirkbenedictcentral.com She's family. :D

Good to hear from you Tracy. Any word on if Dirk's overcome the inertia between himself and his next bit of writing? (has he set pen to paper or fingers to keyboard yet? Or if you are any closer to the audiobook order for the "Fishing" book?

Jewels

Hi Jewels,

Well for those who haven't heard, Dirk's first book "Confessions of a Kamikaze Cowboy" was dropped by Penguin/Putnam which means that, for now, both books are out of print. He's working on lining up another publisher. The news of the book being dropped has given him a new motivation to pick up the pen for book 3 ;) Audio book is still in limbo as he'd have to publish *that* one himself which takes alot of commitment and moolah.

Sorry haven't been around in a long while, but with my getting a new PC, waiting for graphics software so I can update my site with all those gorgeous cruise photos ( droooool, slobber ) and reports, and RL being hectic, I need an extra hour in the day :)

Hope everyone is well on the board :D

Tracy

[Sept17th]

The mini-series was a BiG load of crap...err feldercarb :laugh:

Okay-okay I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself...I'll stop now ;)

[thomas7g]

I can see only Poll Results. Where is the place to vote?

Thanks....ojai22

uhmm.... it should be letting you vote if you haven't voted. There shouldn't be anything stopping you.

:(

[GalacticanCajun]

I liked them both. I really hope that Larson and DeSanto really do get together to meak a continuation movie.

[bsg1fan1975]

Hey trcy long time no see. Give Dirk a big hello from me and my older sis who had a big crush on him then and still does! She said he is the only Starbuck in her eyes!

[emerita]

And a good vision it is.....repcisg.... :warrior:

[Titon]

The mini-series was a BiG load of crap...err feldercarb

I thought it was but hey i also think i got something for the new Starbuck!

GOOD GOD somebody stop me!

;)

[jewels]

STOP THAT right NOW, Titan! HER NAME IS KARA. grrrrrr

Here is something both of us can enjoy, lady on the left is for you and the guy is Starbuck, for us girls. Meh. http://www.colonialfleets.com/gallery/battlestargalacticagallery/battlestargalactica/athenastarbuck.jpg

[Ian_W359]

Erm... do you mind if I hold off on my vote for a couple of days..... just to be sure. I mean, the mini is aired in the UK in a weeks time, and I'd like to see it for what it is....

I'll be back... - Hey, I am back!

All the best,
Ian W359 (& mini-Muffit!)
:) :muffit:

[thomas7g]

My pleasure Ian. :)

[amberstar]

Good to see you back Ian_w359!

Amber:)

[Muffit]

Hi Ian! Welcome back! :D

:muffit:

[martok2112]

I definitely fall into the loved the old show...like the new one, let's get em both going category.

Respectfully to all, LONG LIVE BOTH GALACTICAS,
Martok2112

[nccdee]

Hi Conundrum7g,

The way I read the poll is 38.58 percent are fans of the new BG and an additional 8.57 percent are potential fans (I am taking "enh" to mean they could go either way). My little positive spin on things....and boy am I dizzy. :)

nccdee

[shiningstar]

Well said nccdee

[Hito]

Liked the old show, and I like the new one too! Lets have both go into production in 2004!

[Titon]

Hey Hito, welcome back.

:)

[Muffit]

Hi Hito! :)

:muffit:

[shiningstar]

Welcome back Hito! :salute:

[The Rain]

"Old show okay and would support its revival but Love the NEW show!"

I was being generous towards the old show. It made me smile when I was 12.

:salute:

[Ioraptor]

Hmmmmm, I think there might be a bit of a misconception concerning the results of the poll. People who really like the series just dont post here very much. I hope a high quality revival movie is produced but for me there is no comparison between the old show and the new. The old was a wonderful space fantasy with characters which reflected the 1970s entertainment industry. The new series is hard scifi inspired by authors like Bruce Sterling, Ken MacLeod, and Gregory Benford, and the characters reflect the entertainment industry of 2003 rather than 1970.
Fans of the new series have gotten over the hurdle of waiting for confirmation, the tension was horrible on the pro-mini boards. That cant compare to the tension of fans who have been waiting decades for the word on a revival production! And darn it, now I am interested in a revival too, and have to deal with the tension again! :cry:
But heck, its just fantasy. If we have to wait another ten years the technology will be so advanced we can make our own revival movies on our PCs! :salute:

[oldwardaggit]

Should I side with Battlestar Galactica or a show that calls it's self Battlestar Galactica or maybe even both. To be honest I just have no interest in the mini no mater what they call it. The fact that we waited 25 years to get a slap in the face, has me picking number 1.

I am happy for those that fell in love with the mini because they are now getting more of it. Just because I dislike it, it doesn't mean others should too. :)

I mean no disrespect to the mini supporters but I got kind of a chuckle after reading posts on the sci fi board about how the mini fans kept the faith and it paid off.

The only reason why I chuckled is because we the original fans have kept the Battlestar Galactica faith for 25 years. So much so that it became feasible to bring the show back once more but sci fi decides to turn their backs on the very people that made the buzz to bring it back in the first place.

But that's water under the bridge. I hope the series based on the mini turns out to be the great show that those fans want.

I on the other hand am focusing on a continuation. If we keep doing all the work we have been doing for the last 25 years, Maybe this time next year we will be rewarded with a gardening show or a Galactica cook book. LMAO.

OWD

[Muffit]

OWD! You old war daggit! :muffit:

So glad to see you! Where have ya been? Sure nice to hear from you again. :)

:muffit:

[The 14th Colony]

How do I like Battlestar Galactica?
Medium rare with the excess fat trimmed off, and potatoes.

[shiningstar]

Love your sense of humour 14th colony! :thumbsup:

[bsg1fan1975]

This is how I like BSG. Like a fine vintage wine :salute: !

[shiningstar]

This is how I like BSG. Like a fine vintage wine :salute: !

DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

[oldwardaggit]

Thank you Muffit my friend. :)

I've been working on the second half of the Galactica audio continuation ( Return of a hero ) I have about 5 scenes done and another 3 or 4 laid out to add voice actors. I hope it's worth the wait for all. I suppose I should do an up date soon but I guess I just did. lol

OWD

[AlphaNova]

I put off watching the new version for as long as I would. I only watched it out of a desire to discuss it with other fans. I didn't care for the new version at all. I couldn't see it as any kind of an improvement over the original, nor did it have any of the magic and wonder the original had for me.

[shiningstar]

welcome to the fleets alphanova .........glad to have you.

[bsg1fan1975]

Welcome Alphanova!

[Muffit]

Welcome back AlphaNova :)
:muffit:

[braxiss]

:devil: origanal always and forever

[shiningstar]

welcome to the fleet Braxiss ..........I TOTALLY Agree!

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets Braxxis! :D

:muffit:

[braxiss]

thanks it's good to be here!

[shiningstar]

Well I for one am happy to see you here! Enjoy the fleets Braxiss :thumbsup:

[trwnew]

:thumbsup:

["T"]

Hey Everyone Noob to the BSG community here started watching when I was little but never got into BSG untill recently!

Watched the new show and the old show (got the old show now on DVD) I like both the New Galactica (seems fitting for the time its been filmed in) and the old one has some nice Touches It might have been an idea for the new series to have the old style BSG still, and the new Battlestars as the ones that got mullered :)

Still Its nice to see vipers shooting around again its a pity that what seems like an Active community is being ripped into two distinct parts those who wish to "pull" the new one, and destroy all evidence! :) and those that think the old Series is yesterdays news and we should move on.

I dont think they see that each feeds off each other the injection of new fans to the BSG community is somthing every community needs (Star trek forums are in a bad way right now) BSG is unique and althoguh I am new to this community all the fighting on the other sites seems completely crazy at teh end of the day re-runs of teh original series will stop and no new fans will come and BSG will die completely thats something no one wants to happen, and so the pilot hacked a lot of people off, Sel a Vie (SP) hope the new 13 episodes improve and enjoy the fact that there is a new spin on an almost 30 odd year old idea! :)

(Please dont flame this was an observation, this Forum seems to be the most friendly forum ive seen about the others are ripping at each other! and I dont want to go hacking off pro-mini and pro-TOS already !! :))

-"T"-

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets "T" ;)

:muffit:

["T"]

Thanks mate Been looking over all the BSG sites as I said previously this one does not seem to be as ready to kill any one who enjoyed the new Mini-series! :)

Just before I watched it when I read some of the comments people were writing, I thought it would have been as bad as that B5 spin off!! :)

-"T"-

[Stevew]

As Muffet says Welcome to CF "T"
S :thumbsup:

[shiningstar]

welcome to the fleets T

[braxiss]

welcome from braxiss as well.

[Ian_W359]

Pardon me for asking, but what is 'enh'?

All the best,
Ian W359
:confused:

[Gemini1999]

Pardon me for asking, but what is 'enh'?

All the best,
Ian W359
:confused:

Ian -

"Enh" is basically American slang for "so-so"..... It doesn't work so well in written form IMHO.

Hope that helps a bit!

Cheers mate,
Bryan
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[belle78]

:salute: It's not that the New Galactica was that bad it just wasn't Battlestar Galactica. They change too much of the core story so the only thing that resembled the original was the names.

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets Belle78! :D And about your post, I couldn't agree with you more. ;)

:muffit:

[belle78]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets Belle78! :D And about your post, I couldn't agree with you more. ;)

:muffit:

Thanks, I'm from New Zealand and they just played the new one here, most people I talked to thought the same thing. And whats with making starbuck and woman he's such a mans man, appollo was the sensitive one I think if they were going to make anyone a woman it should have been him, I could go on but I say just one more thing, making Bommer a woman and a cylon was sacrilege :rolleyes:

[shiningstar]

Welcome to the fleets Belle.

[LucianG]

Don and Tom,

Thanks for reopening CF! Glad to see you're back!

As for the poll, the first option is the only one right for me.

Thanks again, and good luck!

Tony

[shiningstar]

Don and Tom,

Thanks for reopening CF! Glad to see you're back!

As for the poll, the first option is the only one right for me.

Thanks again, and good luck!

Tony
Tony welcome Home. It's good to see YOU again. :thumbsup:

[kingfish]

There can only be one Galactica. Remember the Sinatra song Love and Marriage? The main lyrics were "Love and marriage you can't have one without the other." The old show was LOVE the new MARRIAGE. Well there is no love from this fan for the new show. In other words these two versions can't live happily ever after. Galactica 1980 has more of a chance and is superior in many ways. At least it was Glen's work.

["T"]

Galactica 1980 was PANTS the new Show is 2X better than that utter garbage! :)

Love and marriage ok......Well maybe the New Galactica is the lovers tiff? :)

-"T"-

[shiningstar]

There can only be one Galactica. Remember the Sinatra song Love and Marriage? The main lyrics were "Love and marriage you can't have one without the other." The old show was LOVE the new MARRIAGE. Well there is no love from this fan for the new show. In other words these two versions can't live happily ever after. Galactica 1980 has more of a chance and is superior in many ways. At least it was Glen's work.

Well said Kingfish .........well said.

[Ian_W359]

Now having seen all the mini - I'm not sure what to vote for exactly, my head and my heart seem to have different ideas.....

I tried to watch the show as something new. Okay, I'll admit that part 2 was better than part 1 - (nice to see some good old ships back :thumbsup: thanks to you know who) but overall, despite the show being technically competent in places, I still personally feel that there was something lacking, compared to the original. I didn't feel overly emotional watching the mini - except some shock & surprise in parts.

So I think I'll go with #1 - while I won't hold it against anyone if they enjoy the mini & follow-up series, it just won't have the same recipe that kept the original Galactica's memory alive for the past 25 years.

All the best - with respect,
Ian W359
:salute:

[shiningstar]

Now having seen all the mini - I'm not sure what to vote for exactly, my head and my heart seem to have different ideas.....

I tried to watch the show as something new. Okay, I'll admit that part 2 was better than part 1 - (nice to see some good old ships back :thumbsup: thanks to you know who) but overall, despite the show being technically competent in places, I still personally feel that there was something lacking, compared to the original. I didn't feel overly emotional watching the mini - except some shock & surprise in parts.

So I think I'll go with #1 - while I won't hold it against anyone if they enjoy the mini & follow-up series, it just won't have the same recipe that kept the original Galactica's memory alive for the past 25 years.

All the best - with respect,
Ian W359
:salute:

Thanks for your input Ian ........it is MUCH appreciated :thumbsup:

[thomas7g]

Don and Tom,

Thanks for reopening CF! Glad to see you're back!

As for the poll, the first option is the only one right for me.

Thanks again, and good luck!

Tony
Hey LucianG!!!

Glad to have you back!!!!

[shiningstar]

welcome home Lucian! :thumbsup:

[Rowan]

“Something lacking” Has anyone considered the possibility that we don’t feel the same way about it because we are not the same people we were 25 yrs ago, we were kids impressionable, wide eyed, full of imagination, now that we are older we can see the flaws easily and right away we don’t have wait to grow up and look back and then critique and even when we do it’s with nostalgia and somewhat rose coloured glasses, who wants to pick apart their childhood heroes? just a thought

[shiningstar]

“Something lacking” Has anyone considered the possibility that we don’t feel the same way about it because we are not the same people we were 25 yrs ago, we were kids impressionable, wide eyed, full of imagination, now that we are older we can see the flaws easily and right away we don’t have wait to grow up and look back and then critique and even when we do it’s with nostalgia and somewhat rose coloured glasses, who wants to pick apart their childhood heroes? just a thought

You made a good Point Gaelen .............however .
that being said .............if those scenes had been
in the TOS...........then MY PARENTS would not
have let me watch it. It is because there were
no scenes along that calibre that I "WAS" allowed
to watch it and why I grew to love the program
so.

And with............. two little girls 8 and 6 ........
of my own....I made the decision NOT to watch the MINI due to the TV14
rating ..........and the POOR SCRIPT............Poor plot .............etc.

I was almost willing to watch the Mini .........
then someone pm'd me and sent me the script they downloaded.

Seeing the hand job, baltar writhing in his chair, the baby killing ...........
the numerous sex scenes besides the afore mentioned themes..........
that was enough for me.

I have two young girls to raise.
They need to realize that there's more to them
then what MTV and Moore and Hammer are
trying to push on them.

I want them to be able to stand on their own
by their deeds and actions. I can't be a good
example to them if I allow them to see TV14
programs that only promote Sex and violance.

They need to see that there is a better way
and as a Parent I am responsible for pointing
them in the right direction............and away
from programs that any person with commen
sense can see is inappropiate for children and
even some teenagers to see.

[Rowan]

I whole heartedly agree with you, as a child I wasn’t even aloud to watch Batman and Robin because my mother felt it was too violent. I have equally strong feelings about children viewing such things, and certainly this rendition is not for kids which is definitely sad because I would very much like to see a new generation of kids growing up with their own Sci fi shows, making their own memories. There was no need for all the Baltar/Cylon action they could have made it sexy without going all the way, we would have gotten the idea no one needed to take their clothes off, except that they had just hired a supermodel and probably felt they need to get their moneys worth, have you seen her portfolio?!

[shiningstar]

I whole heartedly agree with you, as a child I wasn’t even aloud to watch Batman and Robin because my mother felt it was too violent. I have equally strong feelings about children viewing such things, and certainly this rendition is not for kids which is definitely sad because I would very much like to see a new generation of kids growing up with their own Sci fi shows, making their own memories. There was no need for all the Baltar/Cylon action they could have made it sexy without going all the way, we would have gotten the idea no one needed to take their clothes off, except that they had just hired a supermodel and probably felt they need to get their moneys worth, have you seen her portfolio?!

I haven 't seen her portfolio .........although from the reviews that she's had
I'm sure she is a good actress ...........just not 'GOOD ENOUGH" for 'my'
children to see ................. in the MINI anyway.

[Rowan]

I find it interesting to observe that I’m still struggling to accept the new Battlestar Galactica despite having loved it. The similarities and differences are bugging me so my brain keeps trying to rationalise it so that I can like it without it bugging me

Someone else said something similar I’m elaborating/ fleshing it out

The latest idea that I’ve come up with is this.

Many years before the first Cylon attack in the OS there was a difference of opinion amongst the 12 colonies there were those who did not believe… they did not agree with the way their society was structured were not religious and were more militaristic. Now this group of dissidents decide to leave the twelve colonies and find their own planetary system to colonize and never look back. they all shared the same cultural backgrounds which had some traditions they liked and kept. One of these was the use of call sings which in their culture are passed down and reused like hockey jersey numbers there were many Apollo’s and Starbucks (not on the same ship though) and the names of Battleships. Of course (like us) many family names were common like Adama and Baltar. But there were other aspects of their culture that they wanted changed and to help create their own identity and culture they changed some terminology like time references (centon, yarn , sp?etc.) over time they became a distinct society with their own identity similar but different than their ancestors (tos). After the cylons attacked the twelve colonies they went in search of other humans and planets and came across this new group of humans (mini) now they knew from experience that the trick to killing humans was to get inside their defences, but they had to try a different tactic than the one they used on the other Baltar (tos) this Baltar had a different weakness so they exploited it just the same with the same results and we pick up in the new series and follow what happened to these people we all ready know what happened to the twelve colonies and the other Galactica and when the continuation series starts well be able to find out what happened to them since we last saw them. How does that do? Does that work? I know I feel better for now, unless they actually adopt that take it’s going to niggle at my brain.

[shiningstar]

I find it interesting to observe that I’m still struggling to accept the new Battlestar Galactica despite having loved it. The similarities and differences are bugging me so my brain keeps trying to rationalise it so that I can like it without it bugging me

Someone else said something similar I’m elaborating/ fleshing it out

The latest idea that I’ve come up with is this.

Many years before the first Cylon attack in the OS there was a difference of opinion amongst the 12 colonies there were those who did not believe… they did not agree with the way their society was structured were not religious and were more militaristic. Now this group of dissidents decide to leave the twelve colonies and find their own planetary system to colonize and never look back. they all shared the same cultural backgrounds which had some traditions they liked and kept. One of these was the use of call sings which in their culture are passed down and reused like hockey jersey numbers there were many Apollo’s and Starbucks (not on the same ship though) and the names of Battleships. Of course (like us) many family names were common like Adama and Baltar. But there were other aspects of their culture that they wanted changed and to help create their own identity and culture they changed some terminology like time references (centon, yarn , sp?etc.) over time they became a distinct society with their own identity similar but different than their ancestors (tos). After the cylons attacked the twelve colonies they went in search of other humans and planets and came across this new group of humans (mini) now they knew from experience that the trick to killing humans was to get inside their defences, but they had to try a different tactic than the one they used on the other Baltar (tos) this Baltar had a different weakness so they exploited it just the same with the same results and we pick up in the new series and follow what happened to these people we all ready know what happened to the twelve colonies and the other Galactica and when the continuation series starts well be able to find out what happened to them since we last saw them. How does that do? Does that work? I know I feel better for now, unless they actually adopt that take it’s going to niggle at my brain.

If you like the Mini and the Original that's fine.
I think you're posts are insightful whether or not I agree with you.

[Rowan]

If you like the Mini and the Original that's fine.
I think you're posts are insightful whether or not I agree with you.I was hopping it would make you feel a little better (picture a little sad face here)

[Antelope]

[QUOTE=Gaelen]I find it interesting to observe that I’m still struggling to accept the new Battlestar Galactica despite having loved it. The similarities and differences are bugging me so my brain keeps trying to rationalise it so that I can like it without it bugging me ---End Quote---


I think this is the thought that many Galactica fans can't get past. I like a lot of your concepts. Personally I think the easiest think for me as a TOS and mini fan to accept is that the mini universe is an "alternate history". To me it says: what would happen if the armistice at the start of Saga of a Star World was real, not a ruse. I accept that the names of the characters are common names in the colonies and that mini Commander Adama, Lee Adama, Kara Thrace, etc. are totally different individuals from their namesakes in TOS. In the alternate history of the mini the TOS charcaters have long since retired from the military. The original Adama is long since dead and Apollo and Starbuck if alive would be in their late 60's. The last name Adama may be common or the Adamas of the mini would be some kind of distant relatives. It is even theoretically possible that the mini Adama is TOS Apollo's son and Lee his grandson. The mini would be like reading the fantasy novels you see where the South won the Civil War or the Nazis World War II. The only issue that doesn't fit neatly into an alternate history is the origin of the cylons. Since it doesn't impact the actual story however it is not an issue in my mind. I think if some of the "purist" could view the mini this way it would reduce the anger some still harbor.

Many look at BSG1980 as an alternate history that never happened. As such however you can still enjoy the "Return of Starbuck" episode in its own right without being concerned about its impact on the TOS universe.

[Fedaykin]

Hi all,

Just had a shower so I am all warm and fluffy, just wanted to throw a few thoughts to the mix.

I noticed that a few people posting that the mini had a poor script/story, in the end thats their view but I justed wanted to say that there are many people like myself who thought the new script/story is fantastic. I think that people need to be sensative to the fact that this is a web forum for all fans, if people don't like the new version they don't need to constantly go on about it.

Another thing that comes to mind is the common line from fans "I read the script and didn't like it hence I won't watch the new show". After reading this many times I'm getting tired of it. A script posted on the web is often wrong or a poor representation of the actual show - nuff said!

As for the more adult level of story that the mini is showing I'm really pleased. I'm an adult and I'm fed up of all TV having to be censored to the hilt. I feel that they should be congratulated for taking a risk. This takes me to a further point people who have read a script and not watched the show often site some certain scenes as the reason why it shouldn't be watched because of their shocking nature. In each case either the scene was not actually in the show or blown out of all proportion.

1)There was no handjob in the Mini - I know what one looks like and I didn't see it in the mini!

2)Baltar Writhing in a chair - no writhing in a chair I'm afraid, there was a moment where we see No 6 pushing Baltar onto a bed and her climbing onto him which was rather sexy. And that was it nothing more they cut to the next scene, whilst I agree that a child younger 13 shouldn't be allowed to watch it a teenager would have seen more in an Episode of Friends. Which brings me back to the point why should I have to suffer because a 6 year old who should be in bed is watching it. This also doesn't count the fact that as a European I had sex education lessons at the age of eleven at my Primary School so truly don't understand America's prudish and backwards outlook at all things sexual.

3)The baby killing scene - Yes this did happen but it has been blown out of all proportion. The scene needs to be taken in context, the impression people give is that the baby was bashed to death by a Cylon gore and all! This isn't true you don't actually see the baby being killed. In the scene No 6 is walking through a Plaza and sees a baby in a pram, as she leans over the proud mother allows No 6 to hold the baby (No 6 makes a comment along the lines of how fragile it looks and how the mother won't have to worry soon). The baby is placed back in the pram and that's the last we see of it. The mother is then distracted by the father who calls her to another part of the plaza. With the mother away the camera angle changes to a back angle of the pram and we see No 6 reach into followed by a quiet click. No 6 then walks away and the mother returns, she looks into the pram and screams for help. We can't see into the pram ourselves when this happens and the scene ends with No 6 walking into the crowd. In the context of the scene firstly this is the first time No 6 has seen a baby and is surprised by it's size. Through the entire scene No 6 expresses no hostility towards the baby or mother and in her backwards Cylon way of thinking is doing them both a favour. When I first watched the scene it took me a second or two to realise that the baby had been killed and any child watching the scene wouldn't even realise this had happened. A none event in the end as anybody would of realised if they had watched it happen!

In the end I feel people are just trying to create excuses not to watch the mini, if you don't want to watch it DON'T WATCH IT! Just stop posting all sorts of silly justifications on spurious evidence. I'm not forcing you to watch it (your loss in my opinion but fair enough this is the free world) but the "I'm not watching it because....." line is getting tiresome. It boils down to personal taste and I'm tired of people saying that something that I really enjoyed is Bad when I enjoyed it.

Please understand I'm not trying to get at anyone and I'm having alot of fun discussing the new show on Colonial fleets with other fans but some of the arguments are getting self defeating and slightly childish.

[emerita]

*whew* that was a mouthful and I respect your opinion. I gave the mini a chance but I became bored with it. I am one of the Americans that have had sex on TV and in the movies shoved down my throat everytime I went to a movie or turned on a TV and I just wanted to see the action as in the original series with the sexual content staying subliminal. I will give the TV series a chance also, because having BSG in any form is better than not at all. I am just hoping that the action over shadows the sex. Action ,I can't get in reality...sex I can. But the ones that whine about the mini also have the right to say it and I respect their opinions also..... that is what this forum is for....the freedom to voice.

[Rowan]

Hi all,


In the end I feel people are just trying to create excuses not to watch the mini, if you don't want to watch it DON'T WATCH IT! Just stop posting all sorts of silly justifications on spurious evidence. I'm not forcing you to watch it (your loss in my opinion but fair enough this is the free world) but the "I'm not watching it because....." line is getting tiresome. It boils down to personal taste and I'm tired of people saying that something that I really enjoyed is Bad when I enjoyed it.

Please understand I'm not trying to get at anyone and I'm having alot of fun discussing the new show on Colonial fleets with other fans but some of the arguments are getting self defeating and slightly childish.
Hi Fedaykin

I’ve read the draft and watched the mini and your right about the draft script
being very different than the mini. For one thing Starbuck has a fair relationship with the xo there is understanding between them and in my opinion Starbuck is far more likable in the script. I agree with most of your description of the scenes you list here. But I feel uncomfortable when someone tells someone else what they should or should not be saying with regards to their feelings, especially when it is qualified with derogatory adjectives. It makes for an unpleasant atmosphere and alienates everyone. I’m pleased that you enjoy posting here but please remember you can express yourself and your opinion without stepping on someone else’s. We are turning over a new leaf here and aiming for good manners and courtesy. Hope to here more good posts from you:)

[emerita]

I agree Gaelen. We need to try and turn over a new leaf here. I know that with 28 posts Fedaykin was not here during the war which ensued with the hate and negativity that almost destroyed this board. The mini was made and there is no changing that, but still everyone has their beliefs and, here, we want everyone to feel comfortable to talk about them...and that means letting them say their thoughts without name calling. This is just a reminder that no one here is childish in their feelings and we cherish each and everyone of you. There are plenty of places to go here to discuss without feeling you are trapped to post in certain threads......and Fedaykin I am not picking on you personally but since your last post was construed in a negative light, I am using it as an example. There is enough variety in the threads here to satisfy everyone.You need to know that this board almost closed because of this sort of thing. We have a place here to come and feel safe from all the negativity that goes on in other boards. We are fans of Galactica plain and simple...mini or original, it doesn't matter...We are very glad that you are here and we hope that you stay around for a long time. Get to know everybody. We are all different, but the one thing that brings us here is Galactica.......

Em

[Fedaykin]

Hi,

In many ways the intention of my last post was to get thing's off my chest, I agree that this web forum is very much about turning a new leaf. I know I wasn't on this forum when things were at it's hottest but things are done now.

Its just I feel (and I'm not picking anyone out here) a them and us complex amongst some posters (and I do understand that some are trying to avoid this - but it comes over anyway) and whilst I do feel people should be free to be critiacal of the mini and even dislike it I am tired of people using the same circular arguments about it.

It doesent help anyone saying that you hated the script or despise Ron Moore twenty times, that point has been covered over and over and over again. Also in the end it really bugs me when people make in depth critical comments about a show (any show not just BSG)when they haven't even watched it. Especially when scenes are mentioned as shocking or unacceptable when this simply isn't the case.

The sex and violence is not just a matter of BSG but covers the whole media industry, personally I'm with the group of thought that dislikes censorship and restrictions on content (Obviously within reason I'm not saying porno should be shown on childrens TV). I want to see TV made by adults for adults hence my excitement about the new BSG.

I want to see a happy web community but I do feel that there needs to be a bit of soul searching.

[Dawg]

And now you know why Em was a moderator here for such a long time. :salute: :love:

One of the things we do not want to do is dismiss anyone's feelings as irrelevant. That leads to angry words and a level of conflict we don't want here. Fedaykin may not have been offended by the graphic nature and content of some of the scenes, but there were many people who were; everyone is free to express how they felt about it, as long as they don't do so by attacking.

We have "turned over a new leaf" here - we aren't going to permit the kind of slams, flames, or fighting that came before. If you want to talk about BSG in any of its incarnations, that's why we're here, but don't expect to be able to just come in and bash. Come in and praise, compare, even critique, but do so in a positive, constructive manner - or you could find two or three mods breathing down the back of your neck.

For the record, I found Fedaykin's post to be within the "rules of conduct" that have been set up, even if I wish he had phrased a couple of things differently. He did express himself well, overall. The responses to him have been good and positive expressions of opinion. There is no malice expressed or taken in this exchange, which is exactly how grownups are supposed to act - particularly during a discussion about a TV show.

;)

Well done. :salute:

(Fedaykin - "soul searching" can be described as doing exactly what we're doing here - expressing ourselves, conversing, sharing opinions, shaping our own perceptions with the help of others. It does not help the process to suggest that the basis for those opinions is tired or uses circular logic; that only fuels resentment. For example, the basis for my opinion is my dislike of the script; are you helping my opinion to evolve by telling me I should not discuss it anymore because "the script" is a tired issue?

Another "By The Way", my friend: I read the leaked script and there was little change between it and the final product. It may be a tired issue to you, but it is, to me, still very relevant.)

;) :salute:

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[emerita]

Thank you Dawg....You always know how to make a girl blush..... :girl:

[Fedaykin]

Thanx Dawg,

I would hate to feel that anyone was being offended i'm to much of a nice guy for that kind of thing. I did want to be forceful on certain aspects as I felt that the show was getting short shrift from the script which did the rounds. I never read the script as whilst I could of it would have spoilt my enjoyment. When I watched the show and enjoyed it all the stuff about the script tends to grate after a while.

On the grand scale of things the mini wasn't that explicit the age rating's it got in the UK were about right (12 for the first episode and 15 for the second).

I suppose what get's me het up is when somebody appears on the forum posts something like "TOS is the only GALACTICA and the mini is sh*t". As I'm a fan of both new and old it's frustrating and it does still happen I noticed some posts along that line on other threads.

Looking back I feel I should of phrased the final part of my original post better (bit too much of grinding the axe me thinks) but I do stand by saying that certain aspects of the script have been blown out of proportion to what actually happened in the show or some case's didn't happen. I also feel that there are some circular arguments going on driven by a fact that not all people have actually watched the show. It's not a nice thing to bring up and I probably won't go on about it any further. I feel that talking about the script only upsets the people who really wanted a continuation as it keeps everything fresh in the mind and frustrates people who enjoyed the new show (but didn't read any script).

[Ninja]

Well, this being my first post I dont really have much to say.
Plenty of reading to do though :)
I put my hand up as another vote for the first option.
I admit to not knowing much about the new BG on the sci-fi channel except for what I've seen in the small trailer that was TOS DVD Boxset... and what I saw didn't impress me one bit. I guess I just love TOS too much to see the Battlestar Galactica name treated this way.
In my mind, it's nothing but a marketing gimmick.

[emerita]

As much as I love the original series, I have to sit back and look at what is going on. I am beginning to think that Moore's heart was in the right place.(no...not up his A**) I don't think he thought that he was doing anything wrong. He never realized that not only did we love the concept on the original, but that we would also have loyality to the original cast. I personally thought it had to many sexual scenes in it . I am an action gal and when I watch an outer space flick, that is what I want to see. I think it is sad that Moore and his writers think that all they have to do is throw some nudity and foreplay around and they will bring in new fans. I think it should have been a challenge for them to do it as a completely action film that would have stood on the writing and the special effects. I think I might have enjoyed it more. So I am waiting for the right one to come along...and this is still only one opinion.

[Fedaykin]

In the end the sexy stuff has to be taken in the context of the pilot, there wasn't that much and I doubt it will play any great part of the series. They needed to establish Baltar as a womaniser, something which has backfired on him and now he will spend his time being literally haunted by No6. I don't think our new Rag Tag fleet will have much time for the steamy stuff. If they peg any romance at the same level of Worf's and Dax's romance in DS9 I will be happy.

P.S. I didn't see any nakedness and the foreplay talked about was short lived and no more than other prime time shows.

[Gemini1999]

Well, this being my first post I dont really have much to say.
Plenty of reading to do though :)
I put my hand up as another vote for the first option.
I admit to not knowing much about the new BG on the sci-fi channel except for what I've seen in the small trailer that was TOS DVD Boxset... and what I saw didn't impress me one bit. I guess I just love TOS too much to see the Battlestar Galactica name treated this way.
In my mind, it's nothing but a marketing gimmick.


Ninja -

I would have to agree with you. I did watch the miniseries - I didn't hate it, but it just didn't really do anything for me. I love watching TOS even still after 25 years - I don't watch it every day, but once in a while I pop in one of the DVDs and watch an episode.

I really am kind of ambivalent about the miniseries - it just didn't make me feel anything the first time I saw it. There were some good SFX action scenes and some very short character bits that I liked, but they all showed up in the second half! If they want to get me to watch the new series, they'll have to do a lot better...

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[emerita]

I didn't see any nakedness and the foreplay talked about was short lived and no more than other prime time shows.


I guess it is that seeing it on BSG kind of made an impact. Maybe I am old fashioned...... like I said before, sex is all around in reality. I want action in my fantasy shows . It makes me sort of sad to think that Moore thinks sex is what draw in fans.... I wonder if they are not comfortable in their own writing.....oh well...water under the bridge. I am worried about it and he is laughing all the way to the bank.... I shall not worry about it any longer..... :thumbsup:

[shiningstar]

And now you know why Em was a moderator here for such a long time. :salute: :love:

One of the things we do not want to do is dismiss anyone's feelings as irrelevant. That leads to angry words and a level of conflict we don't want here. Fedaykin may not have been offended by the graphic nature and content of some of the scenes, but there were many people who were; everyone is free to express how they felt about it, as long as they don't do so by attacking.

We have "turned over a new leaf" here - we aren't going to permit the kind of slams, flames, or fighting that came before. If you want to talk about BSG in any of its incarnations, that's why we're here, but don't expect to be able to just come in and bash. Come in and praise, compare, even critique, but do so in a positive, constructive manner - or you could find two or three mods breathing down the back of your neck.

For the record, I found Fedaykin's post to be within the "rules of conduct" that have been set up, even if I wish he had phrased a couple of things differently. He did express himself well, overall. The responses to him have been good and positive expressions of opinion. There is no malice expressed or taken in this exchange, which is exactly how grownups are supposed to act - particularly during a discussion about a TV show.

;)

Well done. :salute:

(Fedaykin - "soul searching" can be described as doing exactly what we're doing here - expressing ourselves, conversing, sharing opinions, shaping our own perceptions with the help of others. It does not help the process to suggest that the basis for those opinions is tired or uses circular logic; that only fuels resentment. For example, the basis for my opinion is my dislike of the script; are you helping my opinion to evolve by telling me I should not discuss it anymore because "the script" is a tired issue?

Another "By The Way", my friend: I read the leaked script and there was little change between it and the final product. It may be a tired issue to you, but it is, to me, still very relevant.)

;) :salute:

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

Well said Dawg. While there were a couple of phrases that should have been
phrased 'differently' ........I too found Fredeykins post to be WITHIN approved
conduct peremiters. I also read the leaked script, the innumerable reviews
of people who both loved and hated the mini and found there to be little
change in the final product.............. and as for people who hate the fact that
I do not like it therefore I will not be watching it ............. too bad.

The fact is I do NOT like it and therefore WILL NOT BE watching it.

That in itself is NOT an attack on anyone here ............it is my OPINION of
the MINI and to me it will NEVER be the BSG ................ I watch.

[Fedaykin]

Hi Shiningstar,

As Dawg said I didn't break any rules and as I later posted I feel that aspects of my earlier post should of been better phrased. On the other hand I felt certain things had to be cleared up and it was as good a time as any. I feel that in the end that the new mini was not the complete disaster which some like to portray it as. In fact for a new Sci-Fi show it was commercially sucessful and went down well with audiences. This is truly amazing for any new science fiction/fantasy show and just shows that Glen Larsons original concept can still speak to people given time and money. I hope that they can continue the show with an eye to quality. There is a degree of TV industry politics in all this considering that Sci-Fi channel and her parent companies really want a show that they can turn into a franchise and go toe to toe with UPN's Star Trek. I completely respect anyones choice not to watch it as everyone has different tastes. If the new show is given a chance by the suits with wallets and allowed to grow and develop (which sadly is a hard thing to predict - many a decent show has died an early death) I wouldn't be surprised if some of the even most die hard no watchers might dip a toe and watch it a few series down the line (even you Shiningstar :)). The best thing for me to do is to continue to post about aspects of the new show be critical of it when I should do and supportive when it's good. I will give short shrift to anyone who is unnecessarly critical of any version of BSG (even galactica 80 had it's good points).

P.S. I don't envy your job DAWG! moderator must be a nightmare. I'm a Scout master and it's bad enough keeping control of a bunch of six year olds let alone a crowd of science fiction fans.

[emerita]

[P.S. I don't envy your job DAWG! moderator must be a nightmare. I'm a Scout master and it's bad enough keeping control of a bunch of six year olds let alone a crowd of science fiction fans.]

especially when you can't get your hands on us!!!....LOL

[Rowan]

Oh Dear! Let me make myself clear I never for an instant thought anyone was breaking any "rules of conduct"! By the looks of things I have unintentionally turned what everyone seems to consider a non issue into an issue, my apologies. I’ve enjoyed many of Fedaykin posts before, and do not wish to alienate.

I simply was not comfortable with the use of certain adjectives, and wished that it had been said differently, I was concerned for the feelings of others. I believe it is possible to criticize, even passionately and negatively… the material, without going any further. In the future I’ll keep my concerns to myself as I see now how easily things can be misconstrued.:blush:
Sorry for the headache Dawg:(

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets, Ninja! :)
:muffit:

[shiningstar]

Oh Dear! Let me make myself clear I never for an instant thought anyone was breaking any "rules of conduct"! By the looks of things I have unintentionally turned what everyone seems to consider a non issue into an issue, my apologies. I’ve enjoyed many of Fedaykin posts before, and do not wish to alienate.

I simply was not comfortable with the use of certain adjectives, and wished that it had been said differently, I was concerned for the feelings of others. I believe it is possible to criticize, even passionately and negatively… the material, without going any further. In the future I’ll keep my concerns to myself as I see now how easily things can be misconstrued.:blush:
Sorry for the headache Dawg:(

(((((((((((GAELEN))))))))))))))))))))) I don't think anyone thought you were
making a NONISSUE into an Issue.

Never be afraid to say what you think. Even I and Dawg said that we thought
certain phrases could have been rephrased. THere's no problem. :)

[shiningstar]

Welcome to the fleet Ninja .........the more the merrier :thumbsup:

[shiningstar]

Dawg :salute:

Just wanted to say I think you're doing a great job :thumbsup

[Dawg]

Thanks, all, but I'm not the only mod here - give BST and Gemini1999 a pat on the back when you see them, too.

And don't forget Titon (and Tom), either. ;) :D

Don't apologize, Gaelen, because I don't think you have anything to apologize for. I thought you expressed yourself very well. I did not see any of this as a problem, but as an opportunity to emphasize a couple of points. I think you guys deserve a pat on the back, in fact.

We don't have a pat-on-the-back smiley, do we?

:hack: No, that's not it.

Here: :milk: :cookie: :oreo: :cookie: :oreo: :salute:

That'll have to do for now.

;)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[belle78]

There can only be one Galactica. Remember the Sinatra song Love and Marriage? The main lyrics were "Love and marriage you can't have one without the other." The old show was LOVE the new MARRIAGE. Well there is no love from this fan for the new show. In other words these two versions can't live happily ever after. Galactica 1980 has more of a chance and is superior in many ways. At least it was Glen's work.


Couldn't agree more!!!!

[belle78]

Hi Shiningstar,

As Dawg said I didn't break any rules and as I later posted I feel that aspects of my earlier post should of been better phrased. On the other hand I felt certain things had to be cleared up and it was as good a time as any. I feel that in the end that the new mini was not the complete disaster which some like to portray it as. In fact for a new Sci-Fi show it was commercially sucessful and went down well with audiences. This is truly amazing for any new science fiction/fantasy show and just shows that Glen Larsons original concept can still speak to people given time and money. I hope that they can continue the show with an eye to quality. There is a degree of TV industry politics in all this considering that Sci-Fi channel and her parent companies really want a show that they can turn into a franchise and go toe to toe with UPN's Star Trek. I completely respect anyones choice not to watch it as everyone has different tastes. If the new show is given a chance by the suits with wallets and allowed to grow and develop (which sadly is a hard thing to predict - many a decent show has died an early death) I wouldn't be surprised if some of the even most die hard no watchers might dip a toe and watch it a few series down the line (even you Shiningstar :)). The best thing for me to do is to continue to post about aspects of the new show be critical of it when I should do and supportive when it's good. I will give short shrift to anyone who is unnecessarly critical of any version of BSG (even galactica 80 had it's good points).

P.S. I don't envy your job DAWG! moderator must be a nightmare. I'm a Scout master and it's bad enough keeping control of a bunch of six year olds let alone a crowd of science fiction fans.


It was a good show it just wasn't Battle Star anymore they change too much!!!

PS Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion!!!

[shiningstar]

It was a good show it just wasn't Battle Star anymore they change too much!!!

PS Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion!!!

Yes they certainly are. By the way Belle .........welcome to the fleet :thumbsup:

[Baltar]

Just taking a poll. Please select which one is you.

I went with the second to last option, though my opinion isn't really represented that well by any of the choices. I appreciate the old show but don't see the need for a continuation. I LOVE the new show.

[shiningstar]

I went with the second to last option, though my opinion isn't really represented that well by any of the choices. I appreciate the old show but don't see the need for a continuation. I LOVE the new show.

You're more then welcome to your opinion.................

I for one welcome a TRUE continuation.

[belle78]

Yes they certainly are. By the way Belle .........welcome to the fleet :thumbsup:


Thankyou :)

[shiningstar]

Thankyou :)

:blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:

[Muffit]

Belle78, you must be proud of your land's showing at the Oscars! I liked the part when they said "everybody in New Zealand who can be thanked has been thanked", and then, when they won another award, "looks like people are moving to New Zealand just to get thanked". :D

Such a beautiful land. :)
:muffit:

[shiningstar]

Belle78, you must be proud of your land's showing at the Oscars! I liked the part when they said "everybody in New Zealand who can be thanked has been thanked", and then, when they won another award, "looks like people are moving to New Zealand just to get thanked". :D

Such a beautiful land. :)
:muffit:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[belle78]

Belle78, you must be proud of your land's showing at the Oscars! I liked the part when they said "everybody in New Zealand who can be thanked has been thanked", and then, when they won another award, "looks like people are moving to New Zealand just to get thanked". :D

Such a beautiful land. :)
:muffit:
Yes it was great that Peter finally got Best Director!! Everyone must be sick of NZ being thanked but we are proud of Peter Jackson, he is very talented. we are just starting to realise our potentail in the movie biz, it's cool having all these big stars coming over here and giving such recomendations, should be good for tourism!!! :)

[shiningstar]

Yes it was great that Peter finally got Best Director!! Everyone must be sick of NZ being thanked but we are proud of Peter Jackson, he is very talented. we are just starting to realise our potentail in the movie biz, it's cool having all these big stars coming over here and giving such recomendations, should be good for tourism!!! :)

I'm glad that Peter got best Director.

I think that's LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
over DUE .........but better late then never.

I think it's sad that in Lorne Greene's lifetime he
never won an award and he was a great ACTOR. :(

[belle78]

I'm glad that Peter got best Director.

I think that's LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
over DUE .........but better late then never.

I think it's sad that in Lorne Greene's lifetime he
never won an award and he was a great ACTOR. :(

Yeah that sucks, I work in TV and I hope that if I get a chance to create something great that I'd get awarded for it!!! :D

[shiningstar]

Yeah that sucks, I work in TV and I hope that if I get a chance to create something great that I'd get awarded for it!!! :D

I agree 100% you would think with as many people who remember him
that they would give an award to him ...........and let one of his children
or his wife accept it.

I agree that if you create something great you should be rewarded for it.

[Phoenix]

I prefer the original series (you guys call it TOS??) to the 1980 series (watch 1-4 shows, realized it wasn't near as good and haven't seen anything BG related since) but now that I'm grown, I welcome any new BG shows! I look at it this way, ANY is better than NONE!

[CaptainApollo]

Hello folkes, :)

Captain Apollo here,
I haven't been here for while eh,
I missed this place :)

I voted for
The original show was great, the new show is a ripoff


I promised Muffit I wouldn't watch the "new" BSG,
and I almost didn't,

Some bad in-real-life came up,
and I felt quite down in Jan 2004,
(they showed it up here in Canada on Jan 17 2004),

So I thought "I'll give it a try",


I wasn't expecting anything,
and that IMHO is what I got,....


anyways,
How do you folkes feel about the "new" Boomer being a Cylon sleeper....?



Take care, :)
CaptainApollo

[shiningstar]

Hello folkes, :)

Captain Apollo here,
I haven't been here for while eh,
I missed this place :)

I voted for
The original show was great, the new show is a ripoff


I promised Muffit I wouldn't watch the "new" BSG,
and I almost didn't,

Some bad in-real-life came up,
and I felt quite down in Jan 2004,
(they showed it up here in Canada on Jan 17 2004),

So I thought "I'll give it a try",


I wasn't expecting anything,
and that IMHO is what I got,....


anyways,
How do you folkes feel about the "new" Boomer being a Cylon sleeper....?





Take care, :)
CaptainApollo

When I read the script and saw that ......about Boomer.....I 'choked' on my water.

Let's just say That Edward James Olmos was RIGHT.

:rolleyes:

[Muffit]

Hi Capt Apollo! Welcome back! :)
:muffit:

[shiningstar]

By the way Captain Apollo ...........welcome home :thumbsup:

[CaptainApollo]

Hello everyone, :)

Thanks alot for the kind welcome back,
I appreciate it alot indeed :)

Yaa,
the original BSG will always be my number one, all time favourite,
I alyways enjoy watching an episode,
for me there is something magical about it,
that I can not describe, that struck a deep cord inside me,

Adama, Apollo, Starbuck, Boomer, Sheba, Cassiopa,
and even ole Count Baltar,
"... I know who you are Count Iblius,..."

Yep,
even Baltar :)


Take care, :)
CaptainApollo

[shiningstar]

Hello everyone, :)

Thanks alot for the kind welcome back,
I appreciate it alot indeed :)

Yaa,
the original BSG will always be my number one, all time favourite,
I alyways enjoy watching an episode,
for me there is something magical about it,
that I can not describe, that struck a deep cord inside me,

Adama, Apollo, Starbuck, Boomer, Sheba, Cassiopa,
and even ole Count Baltar,
"... I know who you are Count Iblius,..."

Yep,
even Baltar :)


Take care, :)
CaptainApollo

The original BSG is my all time favourite too.

I loved that line that Baltar gave to Iblis! One of my alltime favorite lines
of the series :thumbsup:

[Bombadil]

(((((((((((GAELEN))))))))))))))))))))) I don't think anyone thought you were
making a NONISSUE into an Issue.

Never be afraid to say what you think. Even I and Dawg said that we thought
certain phrases could have been rephrased. THere's no problem. :)

Uh, is Gaelen Rowan?

[shiningstar]

Uh, is Gaelen Rowan?

Yes she is :nervous:

[skycom]

Hello All & Greetings To All My Sisters & Brothers courtesy this 2nd Millenium of Time :salute: ........whereby our Beloved Galatica Cast continue to press on as we do, in the hopes of even better times to come. I had no idea this Forum even existed, and feel an overwhelming relief to learn so many followers are continuing this noble quest. Time off from my busy schedule over this past year is generously given me time to look in on Battlestar Galactica original series sites on the web, and i am not disappointed in the least i must say. Ah Cheers for the Chicago gathering. I only wish i could be there. It is a history making event for those who, as i, are faithful followers & supporters of a Living Legend! Now i've assigned myself to staying in touch via the web, i can never waver again or neglect my deepest feelings i will always have thanks to the enormous generosity of our devoted original cast members, who performed with perfection & left an indelible mark and appreciation for us all. Keep up the good work and efforts. Thanks.

[shiningstar]

Hello All & Greetings To All My Sisters & Brothers courtesy this 2nd Millenium of Time :salute: ........whereby our Beloved Galatica Cast continue to press on as we do, in the hopes of even better times to come. I had no idea this Forum even existed, and feel an overwhelming relief to learn so many followers are continuing this noble quest. Time off from my busy schedule over this past year is generously given me time to look in on Battlestar Galactica original series sites on the web, and i am not disappointed in the least i must say. Ah Cheers for the Chicago gathering. I only wish i could be there. It is a history making event for those who, as i, are faithful followers & supporters of a Living Legend! Now i've assigned myself to staying in touch via the web, i can never waver again or neglect my deepest feelings i will always have thanks to the enormous generosity of our devoted original cast members, who performed with perfection & left an indelible mark and appreciation for us all. Keep up the good work and efforts. Thanks.

Welcome to the fleets skycom. I'm glad you chose to join us :thumbsup:

:warrior:

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets, Skycom!!! :D
:muffit:

[shiningstar]

Captain Apollo I've missed your posts I hope you keep posting.

I look forward to reading what you have to say :thumbsup:

[Eric Paddon]

This is my first session as a full-fledged poster to this board, and my vote is without hesitation for the miniseries as "ripoff" though for me personally, there's more that can be said about it as well that aren't presented as choices.

Since the miniseries aired though, there's been the wave of expended energy and all other emotions associated with the minseries, that I don't anticipate the need to express that negativity any longer in the way I and so many others felt compelled to do when it aired and what we saw was from our standpoint a betrayal of what Galactica has always stood for and ultimately the triumph of those who had run down the original series from the beginning. It's been aired, it's done and the real world is such that we as fans of the original series have to stay focused on promoting the greatness of the original and let those who chose to like the miniseries occupy their own niche.

My opinion of Ron Moore has not altered no matter what kind of donation he makes to the effort to show interest in a TOS feature revival, but barring any new public comments by him, there's little point in rehashing the old wounds there as well.

I would also like to say to those who know me from another board and who are familiar with the unpleasant circumstances of how I came to leave that board, that I have joined this board in the hopes of starting with a clean slate when it comes to Galactica discussion. Things got out of hand at that other place in part because I feel things were structured in a way to invite far too much in the way of OT discussion and threads on things that don't have anything to do with the things that cause us to look for Galactica discussion in the first place. I am impressed by the structure of this board to see so much diversity of topic and structure that's Galactica related that whatever niche there is for OT discussion is so small that I can easily steer clear of it, and I shall. The posts that I make in this place will be entirely about Galactica, and I hope that even those who may not have reason to think highly of me because of what's happened over OT threads in the past will be able to share that sense of a clean slate as well when interacting with me.

[shiningstar]

This is my first session as a full-fledged poster to this board, and my vote is without hesitation for the miniseries as "ripoff" though for me personally, there's more that can be said about it as well that aren't presented as choices.

Since the miniseries aired though, there's been the wave of expended energy and all other emotions associated with the minseries, that I don't anticipate the need to express that negativity any longer in the way I and so many others felt compelled to do when it aired and what we saw was from our standpoint a betrayal of what Galactica has always stood for and ultimately the triumph of those who had run down the original series from the beginning. It's been aired, it's done and the real world is such that we as fans of the original series have to stay focused on promoting the greatness of the original and let those who chose to like the miniseries occupy their own niche.

My opinion of Ron Moore has not altered no matter what kind of donation he makes to the effort to show interest in a TOS feature revival, but barring any new public comments by him, there's little point in rehashing the old wounds there as well.

I would also like to say to those who know me from another board and who are familiar with the unpleasant circumstances of how I came to leave that board, that I have joined this board in the hopes of starting with a clean slate when it comes to Galactica discussion. Things got out of hand at that other place in part because I feel things were structured in a way to invite far too much in the way of OT discussion and threads on things that don't have anything to do with the things that cause us to look for Galactica discussion in the first place. I am impressed by the structure of this board to see so much diversity of topic and structure that's Galactica related that whatever niche there is for OT discussion is so small that I can easily steer clear of it, and I shall. The posts that I make in this place will be entirely about Galactica, and I hope that even those who may not have reason to think highly of me because of what's happened over OT threads in the past will be able to share that sense of a clean slate as well when interacting with me.

Welcome to the fleets Eric :warrior:

Glad to have you here :salute:

[Muffit]

Hi Eric! SO glad to see ya here! CF is truly an oasis in the desert. No matter what you're looking for, it's probably here. And the people are just too nice!

Welcome! :D
:muffit:

[Tibbetts]

Welcome Eric! :D

Dragon Lord Tibbetts :salute:

[Eric Paddon]

Hi Eric! SO glad to see ya here! CF is truly an oasis in the desert. No matter what you're looking for, it's probably here. And the people are just too nice!

Welcome! :D
:muffit:

And thank you for the kind welcome! I am looking forward to having a good time posting here.

In the meantime, while I am aware of the increasing library of fanfic available for reading here and will be giving them a look, I hope the members of CF will find time to check out the 300 plus stories of all kinds available here at Robert Hanczyk's site:

http://www.galacticafanfic.com/bsg-page.html

[bsg1fan1975]

welcome all ye new arrivals!

[betacloth]

Hi,

I just joined and I am trying to get the hang of this forum. I am kind of new to this forum thing. I did enjoy the BG remake and am glad they are making a series out of it.

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets BetaCloth! :)
:muffit:

[shiningstar]

Hi,

I just joined and I am trying to get the hang of this forum. I am kind of new to this forum thing. I did enjoy the BG remake and am glad they are making a series out of it.

welcome to the fleet betacloth ........enjoy you'll get the 'hang of this forum' soon
enough ;)

[betacloth]

Thanks for the welcome. I hope to "see" you around.

Does anyone know what that thing that is under my name that looks like a cherry?

[Dawg]

It's a cherry.

;)

Welcome to the Fleets, betacloth.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[Tibbetts]

Welcome to Fleets betacloth!

Dragon Lord Tibbetts :salute:

[betacloth]

It's a cherry.

;)

Welcome to the Fleets, betacloth.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

Yes, a cherry, thanks. But why is it there? :)

[kitty]

Yes, a cherry, thanks. But why is it there? :)
Hi,
I was a cherry only a few days ago.
Everyone was very friendly and offered advice.
Dont worry, you will soon lose it. :)

[jewels]

welcome betacloth: the cherry just means you're new. In a few post's it's gone and you get a title. (and sometime you can customize the title but I don't know when: Like mine is because someone told me there were horses and unicorns on the BSG livery ship, I assume to herd the cattle if they could ever let those graze on a planetary stopover.)

Did anyone tell beta to watch out for the Blue Koolaid? and not to drink anything that the beavers might be offering in the Cafe?

[Muffit]

Yes Beta! Watch out for the beavers!!! :beaver: :beaver:

:D :muffit:

[jewels]

*points at Muffit*

chief writer of beaver antics. :D

[Muffit]

LOL Jewels!!!

My tombstone will probably read:

" I never met a beaver I didn't like"

:D :D :D
:mufit:

[Vonstadt]

TOS hands down ...

:salute:

Vons

[betacloth]

*points at Muffit*

chief writer of beaver antics. :D

Thanks for the Info!! I will definintly look out for beavers. This seems like a nice place, everyone has been very friendly.

[shiningstar]

TOS hands down ...

:salute:

Vons

welcome to the fleets Vonstadt :salute:

[shiningstar]

Thanks for the Info!! I will definintly look out for beavers. This seems like a nice place, everyone has been very friendly.

Welcome to the fleets Betacloth! I love your nickname :D

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial Fleets Vonstadt!! :D

:muffit:

[Ioraptor]

There are......... :duck: (gulp) 'beavers' here? With buck teeth? That can chew through wood?


:wtf:

[doc834]

The third choice was the best answer, for me. I did love the original, and I liked the nwe one, too. But I don't think they need to make both. It should be one or the other. I just hope its the original. :) :thumbsup:

[jewels]

There are......... :duck: (gulp) 'beavers' here? With buck teeth? That can chew through wood?


:wtf:
Worse than their penchant for wood is their sometimes alliances with the Cylons and their penchant for passing off something yellow in a bucket for yellow koolaid (see threads in the Rejuvenation Center for more info).
Blue Koolaid is OK in moderation, anything Gnawty and Harry :beaver: offer you is generally to be run from, post haste. :eek:

Welcome to the fleets!
Jewels

[Muffit]

Welcome doc834! :D

:muffit:

[Apollon]

For me, the original Battlestar Galactica is and always will be the best. While I'd love to see Battlestar Galactica reborn with the original cast (or at least the original story), I did watch the SciFi Channel's version knowing that it is just a "re-imagined" Galactica. I simply look at it as a "what if" version or an alternate universe Galactica. That said, I will watch the series and see how their characters develop, but as a fan of the original it will probably be a hard pill to swallow.

Hey, my fourth post. I just lost my cherry!! :D

[JustinB]

:warrior: As far as I am concerned, the original Battlestar Galactica is and always will be the bestof the two. I'd would love to see Battlestar Galactica made along Richard Hatch's concept with the original cast. :cool:

[LucianG]

Unfortunately, between work, issues at home, and a computer that cuts out so often that I could scream, I haven't had time to follow this thread recently. Wow! In the period of my inattention, we have a veritable host of new members! Welcome to all of you! Also, thanks to shiningstar and Thomas for your welcomes to me on my return after finding that CF was operational once more.

Great discussion in this thread. While the new series may grow and possibly even prosper to become a bigger financial success than the original (hey, I said "may" and "possibly"), TOS will be the one I always consider as Battlestar Galactica, cut down by the ABC execs and beancounters before it could reach the success that was possible. Hopefully, we'll have at least a continuation movie sometime in the near future that may give us a hint of the wonderful possibilities that may still come.

[bsg1fan1975]

I still support the only BSG and that is the TOS

[oldwardaggit]

Me too.

OWD

[Muffit]

Hi OWD! Long time no see! :D

:muffit:

[bsg1fan1975]

OWD!!!!!!!!!!!! My big brother, its been ages since we saw you last!

[oldwardaggit]

bsg1fan1975,Muffit , I miss you both and will be back soon.
The bad news is that there is a project I'm doing along with many others and it's taking me away from posting at many sites like this one. The good news is the project is an audio Galactica continuation and it's really close to being done. It will end up as an hour and a half cut up into 3 peices.

Thank you both for the kind words and here I thought I wasn't missed. :):):)
I am touched. :):):):)
You made my day.
OWD

[Muffit]

bsg1fan1975,Muffit , I miss you both and will be back soon.
The bad news is that there is a project I'm doing along with many others and it's taking me away from posting at many sites like this one. The good news is the project is an audio Galactica continuation and it's really close to being done. It will end up as an hour and a half cut up into 3 peices.

Thank you both for the kind words and here I thought I wasn't missed. :):):)
I am touched. :):):):)
You made my day.
OWD
OWD, you are DEFINITELY missed!!! :heart:
Can't wait to hear your audio continuation! It will be a landmark work in BSG fandom!!!

Affectionately,
Muffit

[bsg1fan1975]

hurry back big brother! You are always missed!

[oldwardaggit]

bsg1fan1975, Thank you so much. I'm proud to be your big bro. :)


Muffit, I'm hoping that the fans like it, because it's for the fans, done by the fans.
It may be added on to in the future with Half an hour episodes. We will see but first I want to have this one in the bag with a 3 parter. An hour and a half.

I have all the scenes lined out with all the audio but I have about 6 left to piece together with Stu's great music from the original ,plus new and old sound effects.

I've been talking about this for so long, I will be more then happy to see it out on the net for download. :)

This time tomorrow night, I will be down to 4 scenes left to piece together.
There are around 12 scenes completely done and ready to go. Darrell (Warrior) and I are making some last minute changes on some of the scenes and that's what I have been doing for the last week or so but tomorrow two more scenes will be done.

(Hint)
Starbuck (the real Starbuck) is in them both. :):):):)

OWD

[shiningstar]

bsg1fan1975, Thank you so much. I'm proud to be your big bro. :)


Muffit, I'm hoping that the fans like it, because it's for the fans, done by the fans.
It may be added on to in the future with Half an hour episodes. We will see but first I want to have this one in the bag with a 3 parter. An hour and a half.

I have all the scenes lined out with all the audio but I have about 6 left to piece together with Stu's great music from the original ,plus new and old sound effects.

I've been talking about this for so long, I will be more then happy to see it out on the net for download. :)

This time tomorrow night, I will be down to 4 scenes left to piece together.
There are around 12 scenes completely done and ready to go. Darrell (Warrior) and I are making some last minute changes on some of the scenes and that's what I have been doing for the last week or so but tomorrow two more scenes will be done.

(Hint)
Starbuck (the real Starbuck) is in them both. :):):):)

OWD

THat's fantastic! I look forward to 'seeing' them ;)

[emerita]

You'll get to hear me and Amberstar too.. we are in the last fight scene :blush:

[shiningstar]

You'll get to hear me and Amberstar too.. we are in the last fight scene :blush:

That is sooooooooooooooooooooo COOL :eek: :)

[CaptainTux]

The original show always will be the only BSG I will ever recognize onscreen unless we get our heart's desire and see the old girl continued.

[Muffit]

Hi Capt. Tux!! Long time no see!!!!!!!! ;)


:muffit:

[shiningstar]

The original show always will be the only BSG I will ever recognize onscreen unless we get our heart's desire and see the old girl continued.

DITTO!!!

[Tibbetts]

I like both meself. :D

Dragon Lord Tibbetts

:salute:

[repcisg]

There realy is only one Battlestar, and we all know which one it is.

[Tibbetts]

There is only one? hmmm.... I think not:

Battlestar Galactica(TOS)
Galactica:80
Battlestar Galactica(Remake)

So that's at least three(3) that I know of.

Dragon Lord Tibbetts

[oldwardaggit]

It's all in the mater of opinion. Mine is that the original was great, Galactica 80 was a cheap product of a studio wanting to cash in on the letter writting campaign that took place at the time to bring the original back and if memory serves me correctly, the first Galactica 80 3 part movie had huge rattings too but once all the fans clued into the fact that they were had, it was down hill from there.

My opinion of the new one is that they once again wanted to cash in on the name Battlestar Galactica after Richard Hatch got the fans all fired up for a continuation and Tom Desanto along with Brian singer , got the rest of the indistry and casual fans seriously looking at it.

The only thing is that Ronald D Moore who is a good writter but isn't a fan of the show enough to want to add to it , has approached this as someone who will creat a brand new show and use just enough of the original to justify using the name Battlestar Galactica.

I also think that they know that even though the sci fi channel got good ratings for the mini, they may realise that just as many people hated it as did like or loved it and that's another reason to bring Richard Hatch in for the first episode and it's working because there are original fans that say they are going to watch because of it.

Now that's not to say that the new show sucks because this world is full of different opinions and the trick in my book is to respect other opinions instead of shooting them down just because they differ. I respect those that love the mini and are excited about the new series because it's what they want. I honestly hope they enjoy it and I don't blame Richard for taking the part even though I still won't watch because I'm just not interested.

It's just not what I and many others want and that's why we are fighting for a continuation on the big screen.

So even though I respect the opinion that there are 3 versions of Battlestar Galactica, in My opinion, there is only one. The original and to add on to that while ignoring some of the boo boo's in the original, Would make an Awesome movie for the big screen.

OWD

[Tibbetts]

It's all in the mater of opinion. - OWD

OWD:

Someone here in this thread said that there was only one Galactica, which, in fact, there are three(3) on television.

The Original.

Galactica: 80

and, The Remake.

It's only a matter of opinion on the one you prefer to watch.

As for me, I like'em all. That's my opinion. I like some better than others, but, I still like to watch them when they are on. I'll also be watching the new series in January on Sci-Fi. I will be reserving my opinion on that until it begin's airing.

Sorry if it looks a bit condiscening or whatever, I just was trying to distinguish "fact" from "opinion".

Fact: The three Galactica's as listed above.

Opinion: I prefer watching TOS and not watch the others.

With Respect,

Dragon Lord Tibbetts

*steps behind the nearest Cylon for cover and awaits for folks to start throwin' stuff at him*

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[oldwardaggit]

I agree Dragon Lord that there is 3 different versions of Battlestar Galactica and your right however even though I've known repcisg for about 4 years now and Know that he can speak for him self, I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean that there is literally just one show. I took it as an opinion right from the start instead of him stating an actual fact but I also understand that we all don't read these boards in the same way so if I came off harsh in my response, I apologias.

I'm all for anyone posting where ever and saying that the mini is the most awesome show they have ever seen if that's the way they feel and I totally respect that. I even respect those that say they really didn't like the original as long as no one takes it personal when I say that Ron Moore's version has very little to do with Battlestar Galactica .

I've been around these boards for quite a while now and I've seen how two different sides posting to each other ,can turn into a pretty hefty argument. In my opinion it's all in how a person conducts them selves when posting. Letting both sides have their opinion as long as it's conducted in a non harsh way. You conduct your self quite well and That is the reason why I like to post a reply to you. Others who call fans of the original, die hards that are close minded, won't get as much as a boo from me.

Later
OWD

[Tibbetts]

I agree Dragon Lord that there is 3 different versions of Battlestar Galactica and your right however even though I've known repcisg for about 4 years now and Know that he can speak for him self, I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean that there is literally just one show. I took it as an opinion right from the start instead of him stating an actual fact but I also understand that we all don't read these boards in the same way so if I came off harsh in my response, I apologias.

Sorry if I took what he said literally. Sometimes that happens. Sorry 'bout that.

I'm all for anyone posting where ever and saying that the mini is the most awesome show they have ever seen if that's the way they feel and I totally respect that. I even respect those that say they really didn't like the original as long as no one takes it personal when I say that Ron Moore's version has very little to do with Battlestar Galactica.

I'm not gonna say that the new BG is "awesome", because, I rarely ever say that a show is awesome. But, for me atleast, it is entertaining(atleast the mini is, not sure about the tv series itself yet) enough for me to sit down and watch.

Same for TOS and G80, they aren't awesome, but, it's good enough for me to watch whenever it airs on Sci-Fi.

I've been around these boards for quite a while now and I've seen how two different sides posting to each other ,can turn into a pretty hefty argument. In my opinion it's all in how a person conducts them selves when posting. Letting both sides have their opinion as long as it's conducted in a non harsh way. You conduct your self quite well and That is the reason why I like to post a reply to you. Others who call fans of the original, die hards that are close minded, won't get as much as a boo from me.

Later
OWD

Thanks! :D I know everyone has an opinion and folks many times don't agree with mine, but, I like going to boards where folks allow such diverse opinion.

Oh, yeah, I was wondering if you, or, anyone here,(besides me, that is) gonna watch the first few eps to see if they like the feel of the new show?

With Respect,

Dragon Lord Tibbetts

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[Dawg]

Hey, Tibbetts, can you guess my answer to that question?

;) :laugh:

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[oldwardaggit]

Sorry if I took what he said literally. Sometimes that happens. Sorry 'bout that.

No need to opologise my friend. Like I said, we all read these boards differently and I totally understand that. :)


I'm not gonna say that the new BG is "awesome", because, I rarely ever say that a show is awesome. But, for me atleast, it is entertaining(atleast the mini is, not sure about the tv series itself yet) enough for me to sit down and watch.

I hear ya. I rarely say that a show is awesome either. :)


Same for TOS and G80, they aren't awesome, but, it's good enough for me to watch whenever it airs on Sci-Fi.

I agree. Every thing means something different to each indavidual.


Thanks! :D I know everyone has an opinion and folks many times don't agree with mine, but, I like going to boards where folks allow such diverse opinion.

I guess we are in the same club because there are many that don't agree with me at times either but it's cool how you and I can express our opinions in a maner that doesn't come off as threatning to any one.

Oh, yeah, I was wondering if you, or, anyone here,(besides me, that is) gonna watch the first few eps to see if they like the feel of the new show?

With Respect,

Dragon Lord Tibbetts

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To be honest, I'm not planning on watching. I have never seen the mini because all the things that made Galactica my favorite show in the first place, were changed and it just didn't interest me enough to watch, although I did promiss a friend on another board that I would eventually give it a look.

Law and order is a show that has many of fans and I hear all the time how great it is. I respect that but I have never seen an episode because it just doesn't interest me.

So even though I disagree with some of the things that Ron Moore has said towards the fans, For me it really comes down to just not being interested enough to watch it. It's nothing personal and I wish Ron all the best with it because he is a gifted writer.

Must be lots of spelling misstakes in my post because it's late and I'm typing with my eyes shut. lol

Talk to ya soon. :)
OWD

[oldwardaggit]

Half of my reply was withing the quote. Guess I still don't have the hang of this posting thing. LOL

OWD

[Rowan]

Oh, yeah, I was wondering if you, or, anyone here,(besides me, that is) gonna watch the first few eps to see if they like the feel of the new show?

With Respect,

Dragon Lord Tibbetts

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I will be watching the first few episodes to see what I think. I always watch anything Sci Fi to start then it either grows on me or it doesn't. :)

[braxiss]

i have no plan or desire to watch the new series, although i resect the decision of others to do so

[repcisg]

Boy oh boy did I kick over an ant hill or what.

OWD has it right, I was speaking an opinion not fact. For me, I consider TOS and G80 as on in the same, G80 was a continuation of sorts for TOS. Original actors, original ships, original theme and original Universe.

The Moore version is to me a very pedestrian rewrite of TOS. A cheap knock off designed initially to rest control and ownership of the property away from Larson. Having failed, TOS elements were tossed in late in development to try and tone down the Fan anger. But in the end I see the new series as ABS “Armadillo on Bent Skis”.


From the Sunnybrook Sanitarium,
this is repcisg :laugh:

[Tibbetts]

Hey, Tibbetts, can you guess my answer to that question?

;) :laugh:

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

Nope. Can't guess what-so-ever. ;)

Dragon Lord

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[Tibbetts]

I will be watching the first few episodes to see what I think. I always watch anything Sci Fi to start then it either grows on me or it doesn't. :)

Indeed. There are a few shows on Sci-Fi that didn't grab me and I've tried sitting through it twice. *shivers* It was horrible. I'm talkin' about Scare Tactics of course. :D

Have to run! See ya! :)

Dragon Lord

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[oldwardaggit]

Repcisg, Hope you don't mind me stepping in to say a few words. You know that I usually don't do that sort of thing but I know that your busy with the writting and all.

By the way, How is that coming along ? I'm very interested in how things turn out.

For all who don't know, Repcisg is one of those rare type of writers that can hook you in the very first chapter and make you forget that you are reading a book.

OWD

[shiningstar]

But in the end I see the new series as ABS “Armadillo on Bent Skis”.


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[Charybdis]

My favorite show of all time is the original Battlestar Galactica.

That's great that some like the new show and can get fired up about it, but even with Richard Hatch in it, I will not be watching.

It's just not BSG to me...

[repcisg]

OWD,

Thank you my friend, I have worked on quite a bit of it. Also expanded the universe a bit. Because of the copyright issues I have been working on a version based on the EDF universe. That has slowed things a bit as I have had to build a background story to support it.

Would you like to see some of it?

[Stevew]

They should have done like SG1 and given it a different name and let it stand on its own
S :)

[shiningstar]

My favorite show of all time is the original Battlestar Galactica.

That's great that some like the new show and can get fired up about it, but even with Richard Hatch in it, I will not be watching.

It's just not BSG to me...

I feel the same way Charybdis.

[shiningstar]

OWD,

Thank you my friend, I have worked on quite a bit of it. Also expanded the universe a bit. Because of the copyright issues I have been working on a version based on the EDF universe. That has slowed things a bit as I have had to build a background story to support it.

Would you like to see some of it?

Wait ..........can you explain what the EDF universe is? :wtf:

[shiningstar]

They should have done like SG1 and given it a different name and let it stand on its own
S :)

You know Steve I have to agree with that.