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March 4th, 2005, 05:08 PM
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out there somewhere
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Last Call for Tom
Hey everyone! Its time for Tom to head off in the sunset.
I've really enjoyed meeting and having fun with alot of fellow fans. And I have made many new friends here. But its time for a last call. I've been thinking of retiring for a looong while. Almost since the very start of admining I was thinking of my own exit. Before I started admining, there was a huge amound of hate and anger and pain. The forums were no longer a place to have fun. It was more focused on hating the new galactica than enjoying the old one.
My one major goal was to have the forums survive the hate that the miniseries and scifi would create, and to bring the forums to be a place where people posted more about having fun than how much hate they had. I always thought it was better to be happy and optomistic, than angry for a prolonged period of time. And when you get down to it, all of this is just fiction. And how much a person enjoys a single day of life is overwhelmingly more important than hate of any tv show.
I have to admit, I'm a little dissapointed. I would hope that the arguing would end. And for a very large part of it it has. But I still hear ultimatums and yellings and HUGE amounts of anger on occassion that I have to deal with. Its not everyday. But its neverending. Which was odd, cause I always came her wanting to enjoy a show, not to have do deal with people's anger. And that effects me. Both since I care about the people, and the forums. And selfishly, the huge amounts of time I put into it and not seeing it fall apart over and over. And in the end, it decreases my energy for creating art. Which is horrible since art is money to me.
So I'm going to be leaving the universe of battlestar galactica for an indefinite amount of time. No more forums. No more art. And I'm going to focus on other endeavers. I may be back to help Muffit with her dream project. I would like to not dissapoint her. I care about her quite alot. And I'll pop in on chat. And will be accessible on the net.
But I'm signing off with this post.
There are a few last thoughts I would like to say. The old show may never be continued, but how you deal with it is a measure of character. And Its a good thing to have hope in darkest times. And to express love with warmth to others and not hate. There is nothing that turns off the masses to the fanbase more than seeing fans hate each other. And the differences between any groups of fans are petty. And showing respect AND friendship for ALL people is a sign of nobleness.
And with those words, and a few images that will never be finished, this is Major Tom signing off....
I wish you all my best!
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March 4th, 2005, 05:24 PM
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Snowball, My Angel Baby
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My friend, this is not totally unexpected but, it doesn't make it any easier.
You have been a truly honest, loyal, and generous friend. I couldn't possibly explain in words what that means to me. All that I can do is to employ some of that very sage counsel with which you provided me. You WERE correct, then, and you ARE correct, now.
What you're describing, though, is not something solitary. Each of us travels a path trying to find happiness. Sometimes finding that happiness is very easy and sometimes one needs to travel quite a distance on that path to find it. Nonetheless, when you find happiness, the trip is deemed worthwhile regardless of the length of time spent on the path.
I am genuinely sorry that your quest will take you out of our field of vision but, I wish you well on your journey.
Ground Control to Major Tom - "We'll leave a light on for you."
Take care and keep in touch when you're able,
BST
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March 4th, 2005, 05:26 PM
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Dang shame.
Be well.
Drop by when you can.
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March 4th, 2005, 06:18 PM
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First Muffit, now you Tom? I'm sad to see you go, and I think this place will lose a lot with you gone, but I can't say I don't understand your burnout. Live long and prosper, and may the force of inspiration be with you. ![salute](http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/images/smilies/colonial-salute.gif)
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March 4th, 2005, 07:17 PM
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Sad to you see you go. Even more sad to know that it was a result of things that happened within the fandom. I hope you can recharge your batteries and poke your head back in down the road.
Things won't be the same here without you.
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March 4th, 2005, 07:33 PM
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My Dearest Tom![love](http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/images/smilies/colonial-love.gif)
I know this is the best choice for you but without you CF will just not be like home anymore .........I will truly miss you
You have given this fandom so much, and I know that you've put in an endless amount of time into CF. Thank you my dear friend for all you've done.
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March 4th, 2005, 07:37 PM
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Formerly Warrior The Lone Wolf
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Tom, much has already been said on ICQ, so I won't go into it again here. Someone may mistake the mushy for mushie
Be well, old friend. Be seeing ya elswhere ![wink](http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/images/smilies/colonial-wink.gif)
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"If not for the original ST series, then there would be no ST movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager or 'Enterprise'."
"Legends never die... They just get new Captains."
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March 5th, 2005, 05:48 AM
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Retired or am I?
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Interesting how this silly television show has caused so much pain and grief. It's to a point it's almost laughable. I cannot understand why we all get so wrapped up in such a thing but i guess it goes to the old saying that it's human nature to have conflict in our lives. Conflicting over a tv show has got to be the most wasted conflict of them all.
In the end there's always going to be goings and leavings. Like you told me Tom a while back you'd never shut the door no matter how much i begged you to close it for me. Same goes here. You know my feelings about this tv show and how i feel that it is still unrealized. And your right it quite possibly may never see it's true calling.
I've taken a different approach to it lately. I don't watch the new series but i've given up badgering it since it won't do me any good anyways. Instead i've refocused my energy to the one project that makes me smile, art. You've always said that art can be great in healing what ailes you.
In the end Tom practice what you preach. This forum is dedicated to BG but like i said earlier has become a community to alot of people. I don't have a idea where this place is going or for that matter BG but i do know that you can't stay away anymore than i could. So good luck my friend, you've always been a shinning light.
Don
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March 5th, 2005, 07:22 AM
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Major
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Sorry to see you leave tom . Its a sad day good luck ![thumbs up](http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbup.gif)
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March 5th, 2005, 10:04 AM
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Strike Leader
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Thomas,
You're a very talented guy and a thoroughly decent person, be safe, be well and be happy!
All the very best,
Peter
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March 5th, 2005, 02:00 PM
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Bad Email Address
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Hi,
Best of luck to you, Tom. You will be missed here, along with your top rate Battlestar Galactica artwork. I hope you make loads of cubits and return to us when you are ready.
Regards,
Nathan
P.S.
Darrell, I agree with Sandy's assessment. I hope you decide to step up to the plate and resume your role as owner and mod-in-chief for Colonial Fleets.
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March 5th, 2005, 02:57 PM
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Formerly Warrior The Lone Wolf
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Whoa... slow down here.
I am *not* taking over ownership or anything of the like.
I am assisting a friend while she is away, and that is all.
When she returns, Fleets is still hers.
There is also another new Admin onboard, who I believe can do a great job- repcisg.
In fact, once he gets his feet wet and is moving around in the water ok, then hopefully I'll be able to step back a bit and let him do the main portion of the job ![wink](http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/images/smilies/colonial-wink.gif)
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"If not for the original Battlestar Galactica series , then there would be no new show."
"If not for the original ST series, then there would be no ST movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager or 'Enterprise'."
"Legends never die... They just get new Captains."
"Respect the past. It brought you the present."
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March 5th, 2005, 04:07 PM
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Captain
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I always enjoyed reading your posts, and it saddens me that I will no longer be able to read them, or see your wonderful artwork.
As someone once told me, take care of yourself, and take cover when needed.
Devin
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March 5th, 2005, 04:24 PM
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March 5th, 2005, 06:17 PM
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While our paths haven't crossed much, you've always seemed like a good man and I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way. Best wishes and peace of mind.
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March 5th, 2005, 07:53 PM
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Thom,
What can I say that hasn't already been said. You have a home here.
I understand to need to move on to new projects. Been there and done that my self.
Just the same, I'll leave a light on for.
Best of luck.
Robert
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March 6th, 2005, 12:35 PM
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Wish you the best and I'm very sad to see you go. It have really been an honor to read your posts and see your art. You're very talented and have definitely contribute in this forum to increase the love I have for BG and the fandom. So I suppose everyone need a vacation some time, I'm going to see it as a vacation and hope to see you in the future again bringing us a lot of splendid BG things. Take care and good luck. ![salute](http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/images/smilies/colonial-salute.gif)
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March 6th, 2005, 01:00 PM
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Great Wise Guru
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Tom:
You are my friend. You not posting doesn't change that.
But I expect you'll be back, eventually. (I expect all my friends who are stepping away are just taking well-deserved and needed breaks.)
Until then, I'll see you elsewhere.
I am
Dawg
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March 6th, 2005, 09:12 PM
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Stablemaster, Livery Ship
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Tom,
Was out this weekend, so no idea if you will actually read this.
I was quiet about you wanting to go, because I knew I wanted you to stay. You are still one of my best online buddies. But your art matters most.
Be at peace, find restoration for that battle-wearied soul of yours. You did a lot to create the community and family that exist here. Your efforts were not in vain and your vision was what all visions are: a step ahead of where we are at the moment in time where the vision's given. The community has still been forged. Please go with the knowledge that you were a catalyst in making that happen.
It was worth doing. You did change some hearts to see others behind the words that disagreed. There is victory in those small things.
Be at Peace.
Now go create some art that serves you, even better than you've served us.
Fleet comline alpha....signal disengaged.
Jewels
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March 6th, 2005, 11:22 PM
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EDIT: THis is NOT the post I spent a great deal of time trying to write last night. It was motivated SOLELY by my concern over some remarks Tom had made in leaving that I felt needed addressing, and I now discover that my remarks, which I went to a great deal of trouble to see to it were expressed fairly and with no slams at Tom or anyone else, have been censored for a reason I regard as not valid in the least bit.
Tom started this thread to announce he was leaving and now I take this opportunity to once again say I am outta here and this time it's for good because I will not remain part of a place where people can suggest that critics of TNS at this stage are somehow lacking in character or possessors of "hate" rather than "Hope" and those remarks are allowed to stand but a response to that is considered out of bounds.
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March 7th, 2005, 09:03 AM
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Formerly Warrior The Lone Wolf
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Actually, Eric, your "post" has been preserved.
The reason it's edited here (and a PM sent to you by the Moderator that acted on it) is because of certain aspects of it.
That portion of it should have been taken to PM to Tom directly, or to the Beefs forum.
No one is telling you that you cannot post what you posted. BUT there is a proper place for it, and this wasn't it.
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"If not for the original Battlestar Galactica series , then there would be no new show."
"If not for the original ST series, then there would be no ST movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager or 'Enterprise'."
"Legends never die... They just get new Captains."
"Respect the past. It brought you the present."
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March 7th, 2005, 06:15 PM
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I haven't said goodbye to Tom yet....
It's hard saying goodbye to all these people and yet one more...!
Tom - I'll miss the amazing artwork, I'll miss all the fun discussions regarding what Anime shows we have in common, I'll miss the introspective BSG chats we've had, but most of all, I will miss you....
You've been a good friend, you've been a good leader at times and you've been one of the most amazing people that I've met during my time at Fleets. It's not gonna be the same place without you, mate. Even though you can get someone else to admin the forum, you can't replace the person. There is a big hole where Tom used to be....
I don't know what else to say, this is so difficult and that's why it's taken me a few days to get it together, but I still don't feel like it's enough.
I would like to say something to everyone while I'm doing this. This website we hang out at, Colonial Fleets, it's more than a place to talk about Battlestar Galactica or SciFi, or whatever else. Most of all, it's a community. A place, where if you are lucky enough, you will make a connection with the people here and it will become your internet home away from home, not just a place to post your thoughts or play head games with one another.
We might come here because of a shared interest, but the reason for staying is the people that make up the membership. It's one of the things that keeps me around even though we have those ugly days, or have a fit about how someone isn't seeing eye to eye with you that afternoon. I've had a tantrum or two of my own and made mistakes modding from time to time, but even if I gave up the job part of it, I would never leave this place. I just couldn't.
I'm glad I'm a part of this place and I couldn't think of a better place or better people to spend my free time with.
Tom - we will all miss you very much and hope that you come back to your "family" one day...
Best regards always,
Bryan
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March 7th, 2005, 06:52 PM
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Snowball, My Angel Baby
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Beautiful words, Bryan.
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Lay down
Your sweet and weary head
The night is falling
You have come to journey's end
Sleep now
And dream of the ones who came before
They are calling
From across the distant shore .
Children are a message that we send
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March 7th, 2005, 06:56 PM
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What can I say that hasn't already been said?
Good luck and God Bless. You will be sorely missed.
Mike
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March 7th, 2005, 08:36 PM
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Formerly Warrior The Lone Wolf
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemini1999
We might come here because of a shared interest, but the reason for staying is the people that make up the membership.
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Beautiful words, Bryan.
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"If not for the original Battlestar Galactica series , then there would be no new show."
"If not for the original ST series, then there would be no ST movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager or 'Enterprise'."
"Legends never die... They just get new Captains."
"Respect the past. It brought you the present."
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March 8th, 2005, 12:30 AM
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Major
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well said Gemini and right on
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March 8th, 2005, 04:57 AM
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Warrior
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Indeed, very well said Bryan.
I can't do anything else but repeat what most have already said. I'm sorry you are leaving Tom, we will miss you, and we hope you return someday.
Your friend.
BRG
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I came here in a time machine that you invented.
Now I need your help to get back to the year 1985.....
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March 8th, 2005, 08:13 AM
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well what more is there to say that has not already been said. tom you know you are loved and will be greatly missed by everyone here, myself included. since i first came to this bboard you were a person that always had something nice to say to all newbies. you made us feel welcome and i was always thankfull for that.
over the years many have come and gone but your leaving is the most shocking. i dont know the pressure of running /admin a bboard. i can guess that it is alot of work and headaches. please know that the time you spent here had meaning. i will always think of you and fleets as being one. it is hard to imagine a fleets without you in it.
i will leave you with a quote and wish you a happy and full life.
"If you're going through hell, keep going."
--Sir Winston Churchill
peace and friendship
nightscape/robert
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Mesmerises one of the wedding guests
Stay here and listen to the nightmares of the sea.
And the music plays on, as the bride passes by
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taken from "the rime of the ancient mariner" by iron maiden
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March 8th, 2005, 10:53 AM
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Ditto, Ditto, Ditto...
-JJR
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March 8th, 2005, 01:49 PM
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Good luck Tom. Drop by when you get some free time. Put this all in perspective. Make your foraways here a fun moment. Thanks for all the art and kind words. I hope to bump into you once in a while over time. You don't need to be here everyday to be a member of the family.
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