Some Personal Thoughts

[Mustex]

Originally Posted by Eric Paddon

Mustex, kindly stick to the topic this thread is supposed to be about, because believe me the virtues (or lack thereof as I see it with regard to TOS) of anime is not why I started this thread.

Why do you focus on me, when Kingfish was likewise discussing this topic?

[Eric Paddon]

Because you're the one who turns this thread into a subject of whether anime itself as a medium is being attacked, and that is not the point of this thread, nor is it the point of what anyone else has said. Kingfish, like myself, merely expresses a POV that anime is not a proper medium of continuation for TOS, which has *nothing* to do with whether anime is being attacked or not.

[Mustex]

Originally Posted by Eric Paddon

Because you're the one who turns this thread into a subject of whether anime itself as a medium is being attacked, and that is not the point of this thread. Kingfish, like myself, merely represents a POV that anime is not a proper medium of continuation for TOS, which has *nothing* to do with whether anime is being attacked or not.

I see that very comment as being an attack on anime. If you want to take it somewhere else, start a new thread. Anime is just as capable (in fact, more capable) of handling TOS as (than) live-action.

[Eric Paddon]

Originally Posted by Mustex

I see that very comment as being an attack on anime. If you want to take it somewhere else, start a new thread. Anime is just as capable (in fact, more capable) of handling TOS as (than) live-action.

The fact that you "see" that comment as a general attack doesn't make it so. And if there's anyone who needs to start a new thread on the subject of anime, it isn't me, beacuse this thread that I started, was designed for the purpose of a general discussion on the issues separating TOS from TNS fans and this little tangent of yours doesn't fall into that category.

[Dawg]

Well, until such time as you cannot tell the difference between a live actor and pure anime, give me a live-action continuation any day of the week.

Until such time, they are cartoons. Sophisticated, yes, but cartoons nontheless.

Now - can we get back to the discussion?

Thankyouverymuch.



I am
Dawg

[BST]

STOP
...and please read...

Please refrain from bringing 'off-topic' elements into the conversation unless they are an essential part of your response.

Items like the advantages and disadvantages, etc of anime vs. live-action are best discussed on a wholly separate thread. Please take this opportunity to open a new thread for discussion.

BST

[amberstar]

Originally Posted by Dawg

Well, until such time as you cannot tell the difference between a live actor and pure anime, give me a live-action continuation any day of the week.

Until such time, they are cartoons. Sophisticated, yes, but cartoons nontheless.

Now - can we get back to the discussion?

Thankyouverymuch.



I am
Dawg

Agreed Dawg

[bsg1fan1975]

Originally Posted by amberstar

Agreed Dawg

ditto from me Dawg!

[kingfish]

Originally Posted by Mustex

Sorry, but soon live-action will die forever, and all will be as it should be.

Live-action sucks, live-action has always sucked, live-action will always suck.

TOS' biggest weakness was that it was live action.

TNS' biggest weakness is that it is live action.

STs' biggest weakness was that it was live action.

SWs' biggest weakness was that it was live action.

ect.

Edit: I know this goes against my usual philosophy of not stating your opinion as fact, but the pervading view among the TOS fanbase seems to be that anime is inferior to live-action, and unworthy to touch their precious show, and I can only take that as a slap in the face.

Without actors you have nothing. Look at Nu Galactica. If you didn't have Callis and Hogan the show would be a joke. These two make it worth watching IMHO. Anime and cartoons are great when the stunts would be impossible for a live actor to do and CGI doesn't cut the mustard.

[jewels]

*doesn't think even Pixar has sufficient software or hardware to capture the sheer expressiveness of Callis' face.*

Please start a new thread for the anime vs. live action debate.

Back to the topic, which was replies to EP's opinions of TNS/TOS and has mostly been an excellent discussion....

Jewels

[Eric Paddon]

Originally Posted by BST

Folks,

I want to take this moment to acknowledge a few things:

1- Thank you to Eric for initiating this conversation, continuing the dialogue, and making the effort to understand the opposing points of view;

2- Thank you to everyone else for respecting Eric's original point of view and engaging in conversation which ultimately, it is hoped, will lead to better and broader areas of understanding.


This type of exchange is "what the forums are all about". While we cannot be expected to agree on all points about everything, it is important to keep in mind the respect for another individual is transcendental of anything that we may place into print.


I'm proud of ya! Good job, folks!

BST

Pete, thank you for your kind words. While there have been a few dips along the way in this thread, I think for the most part it has managed to be what I had hoped it would be as an important clearing of the air, and a chance for me to get a lot of pent-up feelings about these recent turn of events out of my system.

As a Galactica fan (important disclaimer so people won't confuse this with a comment on real life happenings), the scars of this experience I feel are never going to completely heal absent some events that I think have to happen if there's ever going to be a positive future for TOS in terms of long-term critical reputation, let alone continuation prospects, and which I don't have much optimism for seeing. But at the very least, there's been a chance to have some dialogue and to provide what I hope is some needed enlightenment into the mindset of a TOS fan whose feelings about this situation are not best expressed in one sentence posts or four letter word denunciations of the person or people we don't have a high regard for.