Bonnie Hammer Releases Decision :)

[dvo47p]

Originally posted by slider Sci Fi has committed to:

1) 5 Days to Midnight with Timothy Hutton now filming

4) Unknown project with Martin Scorsese

11) Supporting a lawsuit against NASA to force them to turn over UFO evidence

Slider, 5 Days to Midnight with Timothy Hutton, is the Martin Scorsese production.

The Scifi Channel’s last lawsuit against NASA to force them to turn over UFO evidence, ended rather ignominiously. It was a very early version of a Space Shuttle manned glider, the NASA pilot wrote a book about it. It happened in Pennsylvania, Bryant Gumbel is hosting these shows as he is a true believer.

Originally posted by malachi42 " But in response to your post, money aside, will the actors put their career on hold for 60 days to stick around for a series that may or may not be a success. If you were an actor (other than the main two stars) in this mini, would you turn down job offers and not audition for new jobs over a 60 day period in hopes that this would go to series, and then in hopes that the series would be successful?"

malachi42, I would not put much truth in the ever backing up, deadline regarding the greenlighting of that ‘mini’. Hinman web-troll of www.syfyportal.com is in league with www.***banned site*** >. Ergo these rumors start @ Trekweb.com by Ron D. Moore sycophant’s find there way to the now tainted Scifi Wire. It really is sad, look at the resumes of the actor. I perk up when I check out Ronald D. Moore, David Eick & Michael Rymer’s resumes! Btw: Both of David Eick’s USANetwork email address are dead, USA started up The Scifi Channel.

Originally posted by shiningstar I happen to like your avatar dvo

Thanks, The U. S. Navy owns it, but conundrum7g did it, what a guy!

Originally posted by GalacticanCajun Bonnie Hammer's idea of great programming- giant crogs and skeeters.

GalacticanCajun, stop putting such ideas here, as she lurks obsessively!

Originally posted by conundrum7g
BG2005 will be a go as soon as Scifi can submit a new budget. Or as soon as they get a backer.

Hi Tom, seeing how Bonnie was shooting of her Howitzer/Mouth/Bighole/Whatever, “to maintain the franchise” felgercarb, here it is:
http://www.cinescape.com/0/Editorial...e&obj_id=35364

Tom I bet we shall be seeing, oh about the third Tom DeSanto produced Blockbuster HIT ‘Battlestar’ movie, first!

Originally posted by Micheleh Why does everyone post "you have a PM?" It makes me want to try to look over his shoulder and go "What is it what is it lemme see lemmesee..."

Micheleh lemme see lemmesee, that PM from Languatron to Bonnie re: BG: ’03 greenlighted, ok.

Originally posted by oldwardaggit My posts don't go through on the sci fi channels board either. Funny about that. opps I guess I posted this too late. OWD

Shawn, post away, they let me back, really I'm not kidding, go look. This does not bode well for something?

[slider]

This article seems to think Scorsese will be doing The Twelve for Sci Fi Channel.

http://news.awn.com/index.php?ltype=...wsitem_no=8795

Scorsese Signs Onto SCI FI Mini

July 11, 2003

Oscar-nominated director Martin Scorsese (GOODFELLAS), along with producer Barbara DeFina (CASINO), has inked a deal with SCI FI Channel to exec produce the six-hour miniseries entitled THE TWELVE. Scorsese’s first venture into long-form TV will be produced under Cappa/De Fina Prods, in conjunction with Adrian Bate and Zenith Entertainment Ltd. The series is based on an idea by David Pirie (MURDER ROOMS), who originally pitched it to the BBC as an hour-long series. The miniseries follows a string of unexplainable events, which lead an FBI agent to suspect that the end of the world is nigh. SCI FI hopes to premiere the series in December 2005

This deal just adds to SCI FI’s slate of high-profile miniseries projects. Dean Devlin (INDEPENDENCE DAY) and Bryan Singer (X-MEN, X2) will be co-exec producing the eight-hour miniseries TRIANGLE, which will tackle the mysteries of the Bermuda Triangle. Gale Anne Hurd (HULK) has already begun sheparding the six-hour miniseries RED MARS, based on the Kim Stanley Robinson novel. Gregory Widen (HIGHLANDER) wrote the script. Moreover, DreamWorks will follow-up the huge success of their TAKEN mini with another epic miniseries. The December 2002 airing of TAKEN lifted SCI FI to the rank of #1 rated basic cable channel for the week – the first time in its 10-year lifespan.

Variety estimates Sci Fi Channel spent $15 million on the Andromeda deal.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...from_tribune_1

From Variety

Tribune and Sci Fi declined to discuss license fees, but based on previous deals involving syndication-to-cable transactions, Sci Fi could end up paying a total of about $15 million. The Sci Fi cash is crucial to Tribune because revenues from the European market have softened in the last few years as production costs have gone up.

Sci Fi latest commitments: updated Jan 16, 2004

1) 5 Days to Midnight with Timothy Hutton now filming
2) Earthsea to be done in New Zealand this spring
3) Spielberg’s 3 part Nine Lives
4) The Twelve with Martin Scorsese
5) Stargate SG-1
6) Stargate: Atlantis
7) Bermuda Triangle mini-series with Singer, Devlin 8 hours of episodes
8) Scare Tactics with Shannen Doherty
9) Mad, Mad House with $100,000 prize
10) Tripping the Rift animation series
11) NASA UFO lawsuit
12) Andromeda March 2004, $15 miilion (est) rights to 110 episodes
13) BeastMaster to air sometime in 2004, rights to 66 episodes
14) Red Mars in development with Gale Anne Hurd 6 hour miniseries
15) Dead Lawyers in development
16) Pain Killer Jane in development
17) Total Eclipse

This is a pretty ambitious list for Sci Fi Channel.

[Darth Marley]

Hey,you left out the new BSG at 3 Mil per ep.

[slider]

Yeah, I left BSG off the list for the now. I am sure it is coming real soon now.

What really has me concerned is President Bush’s plan to put a man on Mars is now being called the “Battlestar Galactica” plan.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/tech/nextnews/nexthome.htm

I just hope Bonnie Hammer hasn’t promised President Bush that Sci Fi Channel will fund the Mars expedition. He's gonna be so dissapointed.

Slider

After reading this thread it appears to me that SCIFI is putting on a lot more SCIFI than any other place in the TV world. Maybe they aren't as bad as we think. Personally before I came to the battlestar sites I didn't know or think there was a "SCIFI-Bonnie Hammer" problem.

With this many projects I don't see a money shortage as an issue.

I wonder now if the real question is whether SCIFI believes that either Moore's Galactica or any Galactica for that matter will be a television success. One way or another I think we will know soon.

[BST]

Originally posted by antelope526
With this many projects I don't see a money shortage as an issue.

antelope,

Yes and No.

Yes, Sci-Fi has money.

No, they may not have allocated enough, if any monies, in their 2004 budget, for a BSG series. If they do a series, it may well be at the expense of something else. If that's the case, my personal thinking is that they would cobble together enough funds to get it to series but, not much more, or do it for a very limited run this year.

In all honesty, it probably would be better if they sat on it until 2005 and then, allocated enough in the budget, to do it properly.

BST

You may be right BST. I do think there has to be an issue of starting now because of the Olmos and other actor issues. I can't see how SCIFI could do the mini as a pilot and not have a plan to go into production if it met their "success" criteria. I don't see some of these actors being available a year to 18 months from now. On the other hand I don't think Olmos or anyone else "carries" the show. Maybe they can make the cheaper character based episodes for release at the end of the 2004 season and produce the larger CGI driven space battle epics in the 2005 season.

I hope we see some kind of battlestar in 2005. I leave it to each one of us to decide which one.

[BST]

Good analysis, antelope.

Character-driven episodes are usually very inexpensive to produce and are, generally, the ones that wind up keeping fans with the show.

Sci-Fi would lose alot if they didn't start a series soon...mainly momentum and interest from the mini, not to mention a good chunk of the cast. Those folks are not going to sit around forever, they've got lives to live and there are other roles that will beckon them.

One really has to wonder what Sci-Fi's real intent was.

Was it a one-shot deal, with the mini, like Dune or Taken?
or
Was it a "back-door" pilot, as mentioned by Moore, Eick, and Hammer.

Given Hammer's remarks about moving "away" from space-based science fiction, one has to wonder how and why she decided to do BSG. She sends very conflicting signals and a lot of the time, her signals seem to be crossed. As you can see, I don't think very highly of her stewardship of Sci-Fi.

At any rate, it seems to be the "wait and see what they do" game that they have folks playing now, and I will agree in advance, it's not a fun game to play.

BST

[Darth Marley]

Given that money may be tight,it would make sense to me for them to go ahead with some episodes to trigger the contracts.
Maybe a half season or the like.

If it doesn't get announced in the next 2 weeks,it is unlikely to happen.

[slider]

I question Sci Fi Channel buying Andromeda for $15 million while looking for money to do Battlestar Galactica. If they have the money then why don’t they announce it before people lose interest? Sci Fi loves to announce projects.

I am also skeptical about BSG’s future. Sci Fi Channel built buzz for the miniseries using controversy. Bonnie Hammer and Ron Moore went out of their way to publicize the controversial changes they made. This was a cheap, easy way to get viewers for a pilot. Viewers would tune in to see the controversial female Starbuck. It is a bad strategy for a long-term series. The controversy polarized the viewing audience into “loved it” and “hated it” factions. A high cost science fiction series needs a large loyal fan base to watch every week and buy merchandise. I think the miniseries is doomed to a long, slow, lingering death. I doubt they will ever generate the fan base to properly fund it.

I wish they would make a miniseries that would appeal to more people. I am afraid they will make a cheap, crappy version that no one will like. I do hope I am wrong. It won’t make me happy to see other science fiction fans disappointed.

[Gemini1999]

Even though I wasn't all that over the mini (there was stuff I liked and some I didnt...), it really seems like poor judgement for Skiffy to pay 15 big ones to buy the rights to a series that was on its way out.... I would much rather see Skiffy spend that money on another BSG miniseries or at least use that money to develop the original mini into a weekly series. With a weekly series - even if it's not what most bargained for, there is always room to evolve the characters and the story to draw in more viewers (did I just say that?).

If I were one of those strongly championing the mini - I would be writing some fiery letters and sending them to Ms. Hammer. It seems like Skiffy fought hard to gain some kind of audience for the BSG mini and offering them something else instead. This is all supposition on my part, so...just take it as my opnions - not fact.

Best regards,
Bryan
________
Teen japanese

[Darth Marley]

Originally posted by Gemini1999
If I were one of those strongly championing the mini - I would be writing some fiery letters and sending them to Ms. Hammer.

We don't want to increase Deep Trash's work load.

[jewels]

Originally posted by slider
Good news for all you fans of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica (or fans of the baby killing version as some TOS fans affectionately call you).

Slider, quit that, now.

My source, Deep Trash, says he has come across evidence that BSG is now close to going into production. It is next to receive funding on Sci Fi’s budget right after the slurpee machines and the Girls Gone Wild videos.

Hope this helps.

Slider

Counting the seconds before the mods delete this post.

The second joke is OK. Slurpee machines? And ... Eeeewww! didn't think Bonnie's taste ran....that way.

[Darth Marley]

I don't think any of us mini fans object to sliders humor.

[slider]

My posts should never be taken seriously as a general rule. I certainly don’t want to offend anyone.

I would like to apologize to any baby ki… err…,excuse me.

I would like to apologize to any fans of the reimagined Battlestar Galactica I might have offended.

Hope this helps.

Slider

[jewels]

Wasn't taking it seriously, but I do think that a fan of the mini has as much right to be abhored by "that scene with 6 and the baby" as the next person. Hence you got the hand-slap and the "bad". Lest they think that we actually think that of them.

So to meet Deep Trash do you tape an X on your window or just meet in a nearly deserted downtown parking garage? :z:

[Darth Marley]

No,you dump your trash outside the dumpster of a nameless office building,and wait with a brown bagged bottle in your hand.

[slider]

The easiest way for me to contact Deep Trash is to just kick on the door of his trailer until he regains consciousness. This can take a while but is good excercise.

Sci Fi is showing their big bug festival this weekend. Skeeter is on right now. I bet Martin Scorsese was thrilled to do a project for Sci Fi.

[koenigrules]

Hey- to see such notables as Dean Stockwell & Mitch Pileggi in rubbish like this brings these movies to a new level of entertainment.
I am personally enjoying the marathon.
See if you can keep on eating after you see these bugs tear up the insides of animals & humans.
Bet you can't.

[slider]

I got both my TV’s tuned to Skeeter. Matter of fact all my neighbors in the trailer park are watching Skeeter too with the sound turned up. This is much better than George Lucas's THX surround sound. Trailer park surround sound is so real it's like being in the movie.

[shiningstar]

Jewels thanks for posting. I always like your posts.

[slider]

I would like to congratulate the mini supporters on the start of production. You may commence with your happy dances in the happy parade.

One of the bright points about Sci Fi Channel going ahead is it will employ animators and other artists, some of whom are members of this forum. It is good to see these talented people getting a paycheck. They do some incredible work.

Congratulations to Tyrol (Aaron Douglas) who was a bright spot in the mini along with Olmos, McDonnell, and others. Tyrol is one of those genuinely nice guys and I am sure he will be one of the stars of the new series.

I just wish we could bribe Tyrol to leave Starbuck’s Viper only partially fueled so she got stranded. Starbuck could have a fancy military funeral with 21 gun salute. Tigh could give a really touching eulogy. Just an idea but I am sure it would win an Emmy. I know I would watch.

Slider

[dvo47p]

THE SCI FI Wire is an entity of The Scifi Channel, YA RECON IT WOULD KNOW WHAT THE SCFI CHANNEL WAS DOING?

Originally posted by slider I would like to congratulate the mini supporters on the start of production.

Congratulations to Tyrol (Aaron Douglas) who was a bright spot in the mini along with Olmos, McDonnell, and others. Tyrol is one of those genuinely nice guys and I am sure he will be one of the stars of the new series.

Congratulations for what series production, Slider?

This is it Re: BG: 2003 making it as a series, as of 5:45 EST JAN 19TH

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-s...1/05/11.45.sfc

This one?
Ronald D. Moore, executive producer of SCI FI Channel's hit miniseries Battlestar Galactica, told the SyFy Portal Web site that he's prepping a proposed series, but that no decision has been made on whether it will go forward. The "jury is still out" on whether SCI FI will pick up the highly rated miniseries as a full-blown series, Moore told the site.

"We're still in discussions with the network," Moore said. "The actors' contracts have been extended until the end of January (that is the time period in which their options for series can be picked up), and I've been working on the show bible and the first few episodes in anticipation of a possible order." He added, "It's a complicated, ambitious show, and SCI FI Channel wants to understand all the economic implications before going to series—pretty standard network procedure—but I'm hopeful we'll get the pickup."

Moore also confirmed comments he previously made to IGN FilmForce that he will not be returning as a producer of HBO's fantasy series Carnivale, the site reported. "I won't be returning to Carnivale for its second season, as I decided to concentrate on development and hopefully a BSG series," Moore said.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-s...2/11/12.00.sfc

[slider]

Well, congratulations may have been premature in light of today’s letter from Ron Moore posted by larocque6689.

They are still crunching numbers. The decision on making a series apparently depends on Sci Fi Channel executives calculating pi to the last decimal point. Or maybe they are recounting the hanging chads on the Florida ballots.


It looks like we are back to the original "indecision".

[slider]

Mediasharx contacted Sci Fi about recent rumors regarding the series being approved for 6 episodes. Sci Fi says there is no greenlight

http://www.mediasharx.com/index.php/news/581

Mediasharx contacted the Sci Fi Channel for a comment on the rumor. SFC rep Lana Kim only had this to say, "Though discussions are on-going, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA has not been greenlit for series."

It is amazing how rumors get started.

I do feel sorry for the actors.

[Darth Marley]

Now,now, slider, indecision is such a harsh word.
Lets just play nice and say they are "re-imagining" their decision to go to series.

[slider]

No matter how hard I try I always seem to be offending someone. Maybe I should just go back to my doublewide mobile home and hang out with Deep Trash.

Deep Trash may have caused some trouble at work. He got drunk and starting sending out memos again using Bonnie Hammer’s stationary. Seems he told some teamsters to get off their lazy behinds and to start getting ready for the new Battlestar Galactica series. Then Deep Trash called a reporter and told him six episodes had been greenlighted.

Deep Trash had a brilliant plan to unite both groups of Battlestar Galactica fans by making a few script changes. He turned Starbuck back into a man to make the fans of the original Battlestar Galactica happy. He made the rest of the Battlestar Galactica cast female to make Ron Moore's fans happy. He wants to play Starbuck and have Playboy Playmates for all the female roles. I just don’t know if this will be the science fiction blockbuster he thinks it will be.

He came home drunk and laughing his head off. He didn’t think anything he did would cause any problems. I am not so sure.

[Darth Marley]

Slider, where have you gone.
I need my Deep Trash fix.

Originally Posted by jewels

Wasn't taking it seriously, but I do think that a fan of the mini has as much right to be abhored by "that scene with 6 and the baby" as the next person. Hence you got the hand-slap and the "bad". Lest they think that we actually think that of them.

Well, as a fan of the mini, I thought that scene with 6 and the baby was just over the top wrong. It was supposed to be a bitter pill, but it was a little too much so for me. Of course RDM was trying to stir controversy and this definitely did the trick.

[Darth Marley]

Oh, it is traditional for someone to say "Welcome to the fleets" when someone posts the first post.
So, welcome to the fleets.