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November 10th, 2003, 03:55 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Galactica-Internal Continuity Changes
I've noticed more than one instance where Battlestar:Galacticas internal history changed within the first season.
For example-the destruction of Caprica-Adamas home.
In the pilot, all the colonies were wiped out in a single massive attack.
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In "The Living Legend" when facing the fighters of three baseships Adama tells Commander Cain, "they didn't have much more than three basestars when they wiped out our whole fleet at Caprica".
We KNOW this refers to the destruction of Caprica rather than an earlier battle since just seconds earlier Adama says something to the effect "thats more ships than I've seen since the destruction of Caprica".
And in the Season finale "The Hand of God". Starbuck says after being informed that the Viper pilots will be outnumbered two to one, "Thats no worse than the odds we had at Caprica". to which Boomer replies "We lost Caprica".
These two exchanges in two of the highest regarded episodes gives the idea that the destruction of Caprica was a hard fought battle with the planet defended by a large fleet of ships rather than a bolt from the blue ambush.
Whats the deal?
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November 10th, 2003, 06:03 PM
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I don't know, although they could just be lumping the big battle that wiped out the fleet and the rest of the colonies with the destruction of Caprica.
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November 10th, 2003, 07:53 PM
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I always thought that it was interesting that the characters on the show were very Caprica-centric. All the main characters (except Cassiopea) were Capricans. It could be that Caprica was the largest and most technologically advanced colony. The other colonies were smaller outposts or not as influential. It could also be that a large part of the colonial fleet was based at Caprica. If same thing were to theoretically happen to the U.S. Fleet, It would be like saying "they didn't use more than three baseships when they wiped out the fleet at Norfolk."
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November 10th, 2003, 08:38 PM
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Stablemaster, Livery Ship
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I always thought the peace conference @ Cimtar had to be fairly close to Caprica in some ways: Adama wanting to go down to the surface immediately after watching it get wiped out on the civilian transmissions. It would make sense for the raiders that destroyed the fleet to have been "dropped off" with their tankers near the old moon at Cimtar (think like our in air fighter and bomber refueling) and the basestars to go on into the settled colonies with a still substantial force of raiders to handle their attack.
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November 10th, 2003, 10:23 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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It always made sense that most of the characters would be Capricans in the series given that Adama returned to Caprica first and devised is "flight across the stars" strategy there.
With the Capricans being first to hear Adamas plan and the Galactica being overhead, it makes sense that more of them would be saved than on other colonies.
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November 10th, 2003, 11:01 PM
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I am pretty sure the several references to Caprica being wiped out by the 3 basestars is meant to be a group reference to the surprise attack in the pilot, both of the fleet and eventually the planet itself. It's just a convenient way of labeling the incident, imho.
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November 11th, 2003, 07:45 AM
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The mistake is naming it the Battle of Caprica
If they had said Battle of Cimtar it would have been better. It's probably a writters mistake. To my knowledge, Sagitara was the most heavily defended colony (i.e. space and land based defenses), which explains why Adama asked "What about Sagitara?"
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November 12th, 2003, 08:47 PM
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Clunky Man In Suit
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bijou88
I always thought that it was interesting that the characters on the show were very Caprica-centric. All the main characters (except Cassiopea) were Capricans.
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I got from watching the series that Galactica was Caprica's Battlestar and that at one time or another every colony had a battlestar. *can of worms opening*
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November 13th, 2003, 06:13 AM
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Battlestar Callisto
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Phhhtt!!!
There goes the can of worms!!!!
The idea that there were 12 Battlestars (one for each colony) came from the Battlestar Encyclopaedia published early in 1979. Author Bruce Kraus says in the listing for Battlestar there were 12, one for each planet. Where he got that, I have no idea...
is there any other source for this info?
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November 13th, 2003, 09:47 AM
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Bad Email Address
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He made it up because it sounded good. Larson and the production company never said how many there were.
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November 13th, 2003, 06:49 PM
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out there somewhere
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Remember guys, this was done in the days before vcrs. When a show aired, you wouldn't see all the flaws that come out when you watch an episode over and over. Or compare them.
You saw an episode once, than maybe again two months later.
Shows back then were not made to be repackaged in syndication. If they made money in reruns-great, but nothing was planned for repeat viewings.
So attention to precision was not necesary back then.
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November 14th, 2003, 06:57 AM
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Battlestar Callisto
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VCRs...
Actually, the home consumer market model of Sony's Betamax VCR was released in 1976 with JVC's VHS model released the following year in 1977.
In fact, we had one of those big desktop models and for several years afterward, I had the VCR home tape of the original airing of Saga of a Star World!!!!!
A few years later, in a fit of desperation, my mom took my VHS and taped a soap opera over it!!!!! Boy what would I give to have that tape back...
Talk about being mad!!!!!
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November 14th, 2003, 07:19 AM
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I'm 100% female
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A friend of mine had a VCR back then and taped the original 3 hour premiere for me. Now that I have a crisp, clear DVD copy, that 25 year old tape has now been retired!
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