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November 2nd, 2006, 04:40 AM
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Imperious Leader
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OK, so now we know. People make mistakes. Mike should have communicated more. I think that is clear enough.
I also recognize that if I were busy with a lot of issues (which I am) and had people suggesting I was a thief that I'd be showing a bit of the dark side of the force as well. I think its also noteworthy to point out that Mike doesn't have the built up scar tissue most of the rest of us have from our BBoard experiences. He should have taken a more level approach when he responded but IMO, he shouldn't have been having to respond to attacks on his integrity. This isn't the Skiffy board and IMO, these issues are usually handled a lot better by the Fleets' membership. I think this communication failure is the responsibility of more than just one person.
Personally, I have mixed feelings about Peter's suggestion. On one hand, I can see strong merit in the approach. On the other, I'm a bit reluctant to hamper anything that helps promote the real Battlestar Galactica series. The conversation has kept some additional focus on DeSanto's efforts and I see that as a good thing.
Regardless, I want to see people's build-ups in the art in progress section.
Russell
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November 2nd, 2006, 05:17 AM
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Strike Leader
| Co-Founder | | Colonial Fan Force | | Co-Owner | | TombsofKobol.com |
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Derby, England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoBrainedCylon
Personally, I have mixed feelings about Peter's suggestion. On one hand, I can see strong merit in the approach. On the other, I'm a bit reluctant to hamper anything that helps promote the real Battlestar Galactica series. The conversation has kept some additional focus on DeSanto's efforts and I see that as a good thing.
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I agree, it's not perfect. I was looking at it from a modding/owners perspective as the dispute would have really nothing to do with the site other than that those involved are members (and it being a potential pain the backside to deal with). At the same time like you said, you don't want to stifle the endeavour either, especially if the vendor hasn't got their own website, it maybe the only way to get their project noticed.
Best,
Peter
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November 2nd, 2006, 04:17 PM
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Bad Email Address
Join Date: May 2006
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I also think everybody involved as learned something from the experience and things should run much more smoothly for project two.
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Ok, what is project two ?
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November 2nd, 2006, 04:26 PM
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Well, If I remember correctly, it s a Desanto Raider.
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November 2nd, 2006, 05:47 PM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by z28barry
Well, If I remember correctly, it s a Desanto Raider.
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You are correct Young Warrior!
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November 2nd, 2006, 09:19 PM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Roseville, MI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueSquad2001
You are correct Young Warrior!
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BTW, you done with that yet???
Jim
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November 6th, 2006, 08:49 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilbertman
BTW, you done with that yet???
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NO......I AIN"T!!!! But will be sending the badass Colonial Blaster tomorrow!
I'll be posting a list of all the vipers that have shipped and what is about to be shipped int he next day or so. As soon as we have time to go through everything, and Terri asnd I are not so swamped with regular work and home repair guys. I don't have time post more detail now as I'm on a tight schedule, with things to get molded, painted, and shipped, this means your vipers also. So the less I talk here the better I can concentrate. Leave me alone. Nicely said of course.
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November 10th, 2006, 04:34 PM
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Bad Email Address
Join Date: May 2006
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I love a happy squadron!
Well, back to swabbing the decks!
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November 14th, 2006, 12:30 AM
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Warrior
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Some Where Beyond The Heavens
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You got that right Starmanmm.
It's another Tueday....and still no updated list...or anything at the door.
Ho...hummmmmm
Well, while we wait.... here's some more of what I'm working on.
For all who might not have seen it in the other thread. This is my Monogram Raider that I've been accurizing. It's finally painted, (Automotive Medium Gray)
the canopy and engine cowling have been painted dark gray. Panel lines have been picked out with a drafting pencil. will be wshing it with acrylic oily black next after painting on the markings.
Hope you enjoy.
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November 14th, 2006, 12:34 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Roseville, MI
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Hey Mike you still with us?
Jim
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November 14th, 2006, 07:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueSquad2001
I'll be posting a list of all the vipers that have shipped and what is about to be shipped int he next day or so.
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Hey Mike I think it's been a few days or so.
What's happening with the list, inquiring minds want to know.
later, Barry.
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November 14th, 2006, 05:19 PM
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Bad Email Address
Join Date: May 2006
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Viper 1, what you have done there looks great.
Buuut, it's the enemy and all, but it still looks great!
Looking forward to how it looks after the wash.
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November 14th, 2006, 11:46 PM
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Warrior
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Some Where Beyond The Heavens
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Thanks there Starmanmm,
If you look back a few posts ago you'll see a Recon Viper I did.
So I'm not just showing you guys the enemy.
And it looks like good ol Mike has pulled another disapearing trick on us.
It'll probably take another e-mail and PM from the Admin to get him to answer again.
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November 20th, 2006, 12:57 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Is there any update on the vipers shipping?? How many are still waiting? Is there any news? I have sent some emails, but no reply as yet. Does anyone know anything? Going insane and losing interest......
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November 20th, 2006, 10:54 AM
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I've emailed Mike & Teri 3 days ago and still no response.
I'm coming to the end of my line with this project and all its empty promises and delay after delay after delay.
Mike, I’m getting painfully close to asking for my money back.
You can't keep telling people it's on its way and then go silent without any kind of information or confirmation emails stating it has been shipped.
Lets put the shoe on the other foot.
How would Mike like it if he sent his artwork out to a buyer that kept making excuses as to why the payment hasn't arrived.
I'm more then sure Mike would not be too happy.
Now you kind of understand how we feel, please end the delays or give me a refund.
Thanks, Barry.
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November 20th, 2006, 11:51 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by z28barry
I've emailed Mike & Teri 3 days ago and still no response.
I'm coming to the end of my line with this project and all its empty promises and delay after delay after delay.
Mike, I’m getting painfully close to asking for my money back.
You can't keep telling people it's on its way and then go silent without any kind of information or confirmation emails stating it has been shipped.
Lets put the shoe on the other foot.
How would Mike like it if he sent his artwork out to a buyer that kept making excuses as to why the payment hasn't arrived.
I'm more then sure Mike would not be too happy.
Now you kind of understand how we feel, please end the delays or give me a refund.
Thanks, Barry.
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Do not post any problems here. Send me an e-mail with your phone number, I'll call later today. Do not start anything here and create a problem. Bring your problem to me. I'll handle it.
No More Problems addressed here, period.
Mike
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November 20th, 2006, 01:47 PM
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Strike Leader
| Fleet Moderator | | Colonial Fleets |
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Location: Citrus Heights, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by z28barry
I've emailed Mike & Teri 3 days ago and still no response.
I'm coming to the end of my line with this project and all its empty promises and delay after delay after delay.
Mike, I’m getting painfully close to asking for my money back.
You can't keep telling people it's on its way and then go silent without any kind of information or confirmation emails stating it has been shipped.
Lets put the shoe on the other foot.
How would Mike like it if he sent his artwork out to a buyer that kept making excuses as to why the payment hasn't arrived.
I'm more then sure Mike would not be too happy.
Now you kind of understand how we feel, please end the delays or give me a refund.
Thanks, Barry.
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Barry -
As we've pointed out earlier in this thread. Colonial Fleets is not a commercial site and we've asked folks that have placed orders with Mike & Terry (or any other vendors posting on this site) to take their business discussions away from CF and the discussion forums and contact the vendor directly.
Any further complaints, gripes, grumbles or what have you that appear in this thread will be summarily deleted without discussion or debate and the offending poster will receive a formal warning.
This is the last time we're gonna address this issue in this thread - I mean it this time!
Regards,
Gemini1999
Colonial Fleets Moderator
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"If you love long enough, wish hard enough, anything is possible" - From The Boy Who Could Fly
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November 20th, 2006, 11:52 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Mike, I live in Australia, so it is a bit hard to give you a call. I have emailed you a couple of times. Can you please shoot me an email and let me know what is going on?
fistius@hotmail.com
Thanks mate, Chris
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November 21st, 2006, 08:21 AM
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Strike Leader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussieviper
Mike, I live in Australia, so it is a bit hard to give you a call. I have emailed you a couple of times. Can you please shoot me an email and let me know what is going on?
fistius@hotmail.com
Thanks mate, Chris
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Chris (and everyone else) -
As I pointed out, Colonial Fleets is not supposed to be a "contact list" for Mike, Terri and the items they are producing. I asked people to take their comments, problems and questions regarding their orders off of the board to either email or PM, but that doesn't seem to sink in very well.
I'm going to close the thread to further comments until either Mike and Terri have updates regarding their progress producing new BSG related material or at least something closer to the topic of this thread.
Note to Mike and Terri - PM me or one of the other staff members when you have updates and we will consider re-opening the thread so you can post them.
Regards,
Gemini1999
Colonial Fleets Moderator
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"If you love long enough, wish hard enough, anything is possible" - From The Boy Who Could Fly
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November 26th, 2006, 10:12 AM
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Strike Leader
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Okay.....
I've received a request from Mike to reopen the thread. He stated that he and Terri have updates, pics and other items of discussion that are relevant to the topic of the thread. I have one proviso - and this goes for both sides.....NO discussion of individual orders, complaints about orders, responses to complaints about orders, etc....
This topic thread is for discussing the devleopment of the items that Mike and Terri are producing. Unless you have something relevant in that vein of discussion, DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD. If you have questions that aren't relevant to the discussion at hand, such inquiries should be made either by PM or email. Oh, and a non-response to either does not mean you have permission to post about it in-thread either. As I said before, Colonial Fleets is not a commercial site and we do not want to get dragged into the middle of such a venture.
Any off topic posts will be deleted without discussion - if there is a continuing rash of posts that are off topic, I will have no other recourse but to close the thread permanently.
Now, play nice and stick to the rules of this thread....
Sincerely,
Gemini1999
Colonial Fleets Moderator
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November 28th, 2006, 07:57 PM
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Warrior
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Some Where Beyond The Heavens
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Ok........???????
Gemini.... thank you for opening the thread again.
I know we're all waiting to see more updates of the DeSanto Vipers.....
(I know that I'm still waiting for the postman to show up)
But where are the up-dates???
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November 28th, 2006, 09:18 PM
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Strike Leader
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Originally Posted by Viper 1
Gemini.... thank you for opening the thread again.
I know we're all waiting to see more updates of the DeSanto Vipers.....
But where are the up-dates???
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Actually, I'm waiting for the same thing - that's what I re-opened the thread for.....
Bryan
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November 28th, 2006, 11:01 PM
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Warrior
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Some Where Beyond The Heavens
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Ahhhh...Huhhhhh.
And Mike is not to be heard from.....????
Go figure.
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November 29th, 2006, 07:04 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viper 1
Ahhhh...Huhhhhh.
And Mike is not to be heard from.....????
Go figure.
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I'm just real busy. And in TERRIBLE pain. Have not slept for a few days.
But yes, you bet, there's gonna be lots of pics and build-up answers and progress with lighting as the next few days unfold. I'm getting ready to light one for Dilbertman, and that'll be cool for you all to follow and be part of. I'm working, but on codone and anti-biotics, with a dental appointment today, to fix the problem.
But, just in a haze, and have'nt thought about posting. I'm sorry Troy.
Mike
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November 29th, 2006, 07:07 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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By the way, I don't know if I said this, and I'm too spacey on pain-killers to search my past postings, but we got a new minolta with like 12x zoom and the pics'll be clear and much better.
Talk to you all soon.
Take care.
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November 29th, 2006, 07:10 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemini1999
Actually, I'm waiting for the same thing - that's what I re-opened the thread for.....
Bryan
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I'm just so busy, just signed a new contract with an art representitive, and working on this stuff as well as being awake for days now because of pain, I just forget to check the boards. I'll be posting some new stuff soon.
And Troy, have you started your build-up yet? PICS PLEASE!
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November 29th, 2006, 07:12 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Originally Posted by Viper 1
Ahhhh...Huhhhhh.
And Mike is not to be heard from.....????
Go figure.
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Oh and since these pills have got me acting in a strange manner. Here ya go.
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November 29th, 2006, 11:48 PM
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Warrior
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Some Where Beyond The Heavens
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Well......
This is all well and good Mike. Thank you for your explanations and all....
Now, could you post a list of who's kits have been sent.....who's are still pending...
And the up-dates of pics on the build-ups
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November 30th, 2006, 06:06 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Originally Posted by Viper 1
Well......
This is all well and good Mike. Thank you for your explanations and all....
Now, could you post a list of who's kits have been sent.....who's are still pending...
And the up-dates of pics on the build-ups
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NO! And you're not going to be told again. You were clearly told and ordered by Brian "Gemini 1999" To speak NO LONGER ABOUT THIS, and I'm sorry but the consequences will fall on you only for breaking this rule. This thread is about building, and sharing of information about the model. NO ORDERS DISCUSSED !
Bryan, I have reminded him, and simply will not pay heed to warning.
Will p.m. you this a.m..
This person you should deal with privately, and without repercussions to the thread.
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November 30th, 2006, 06:55 AM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: N.Little Rock,Ark
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Originally Posted by Viper 1
Well......
This is all well and good Mike. Thank you for your explanations and all....
Now, could you post a list of who's kits have been sent.....who's are still pending...
And the up-dates of pics on the build-ups
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Here you go, here's your answer. When weather permits, I'll be back in the shop working towards completion of the Lit-Viper model. And as for you not understanding the rules of the thread, I'm posting what Gemini "SO ORDERED" above when he re-opened the thread.
PAY ATTENTION!
Okay.....
I've received a request from Mike to reopen the thread. He stated that he and Terri have updates, pics and other items of discussion that are relevant to the topic of the thread. I have one proviso - and this goes for both sides.....NO discussion of individual orders, complaints about orders, responses to complaints about orders, etc....
This topic thread is for discussing the devleopment of the items that Mike and Terri are producing. Unless you have something relevant in that vein of discussion, DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD. If you have questions that aren't relevant to the discussion at hand, such inquiries should be made either by PM or email. Oh, and a non-response to either does not mean you have permission to post about it in-thread either. As I said before, Colonial Fleets is not a commercial site and we do not want to get dragged into the middle of such a venture.
Any off topic posts will be deleted without discussion - if there is a continuing rash of posts that are off topic, I will have no other recourse but to close the thread permanently.
Now, play nice and stick to the rules of this thread....
Sincerely,
Gemini1999
Colonial Fleets Moderator
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