Pegasus Movie

Winemaster · July 17th, 2004, 06:05 AM

If Glen Larson announced a Pegasus movie was being made, would CFF support this?
What if it was a Pegasus movie based on elements of TOS but not TOS?

Titon · July 17th, 2004, 07:59 AM

I'd support anything based on the TOS timeline and events although Glen has been already turned down many times concerning a Pegasus storyline. But ya never know.

Eric Paddon · July 17th, 2004, 09:43 AM

"Elements" of TOS would not be acceptable to me. The only movie project I would support would be a true continuation of TOS and only if a Pegasus movie were tied in to TOS in terms of continuity would I give it a chance. After the Moore experience absolutely nothing else will satisfy at this point. The reinventors and "elements only" faction has had their turn, and now it is time for the continuation in the true sense to take place.

kingfish · July 17th, 2004, 03:12 PM

Being a fan of Cain, I would gladly accept a Pegasus movie. As far as elements of tos in it, get Dirk to play Cain. He could pull it off.

kingfish · July 17th, 2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Winemaster1

If Glen Larson announced a Pegasus movie was being made, would CFF support this?
What if it was a Pegasus movie based on elements of TOS but not TOS?

At one time I remember an IMAX Pegasus movie being mentioned and a possible trailer being shot.

braxiss · July 17th, 2004, 04:00 PM

living legend are my favorite two episodes. so i would jump at a chance to for cain and the pegasus to return

amberstar · July 17th, 2004, 05:04 PM

Yes I'd support it. I had always thought that TOS hinted toward's Cains return anyway

The evil count told Sheba that she would see her father again

thomas7g · July 17th, 2004, 05:16 PM

Glen Larson seems to have a slightly stronger legal claim on the Battlestar Pegasus storyline and characters than he does with the Battlestar Galactica story and characters. That would help cause I'm positive Universal would sue to get the profits no matter what movie he tried to make.

I think that's why he wanted to do a Pegasus movie instead. But that's just my guessing.

I would happily take it. I prefer a Battlestar Pegasus to the Moore storyline.

braxiss · July 18th, 2004, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thomas7g

I would happily take it. I prefer a Battlestar Pegasus to the Moore storyline.

i agree, that ron moore thing is

KJ · July 19th, 2004, 12:54 PM

Same here! By the way, Titon it's been a few years now. Without any sucking up or anything to ya dude. Is there anytime in the future we'd see the conclusion to your KICKASS Battlestar Millenia story.

It was great then and it's still great now. I think it's great, this fanbase own efforts match that of the dreams we all have, of seeing either a DeSanto Galactica or Larson Galactica movie/series.

Seems we fans know, what we want.

KJ

peter noble · July 19th, 2004, 02:33 PM

Personally, I could only watch a Pegasus story if it had an original cast member in, ie Dirk as Starbuck.

IMHO, Dirk is the most recognised actor in the show and people still remember him as Starbuck and Face.

If they did a Pegasus movie he'd be the commander, taking over from the deceased Cain, the Pegasus having rescued him from Planet Starbuck yahrens before.

And yeah, he'd have rebuilt Cy with parts from the destroyed Cylons so you'd still get their repartee over the course of the movie!

Best,

Peter

Titon · July 20th, 2004, 03:25 PM

Jason, i wish i had the time to be honest with you. I really liked that idea but presently with my company and cgi work taking up so much of my time it's nearly impossible to generate anything. I hope to continue it when things die down again.

Thanks for the interest though, i really appreciate it.

BST · July 20th, 2004, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by peter noble

Personally, I could only watch a Pegasus story if it had an original cast member in, ie Dirk as Starbuck.

IMHO, Dirk is the most recognised actor in the show and people still remember him as Starbuck and Face.

If they did a Pegasus movie he'd be the commander, taking over from the deceased Cain, the Pegasus having rescued him from Planet Starbuck yahrens before.

And yeah, he'd have rebuilt Cy with parts from the destroyed Cylons so you'd still get their repartee over the course of the movie!

Best,

Peter

I agree. Even though he would make an excellent commander of the Pegasus, I would prefer it as Commander Starbuck, NOT as Commander Cain. If Cain is to be re-cast and although Lloyd Bridges gave heart and soul to that role, I could deal with a very thoughtful re-casting of the Cain role. Same as with Adama.

Regarding "Cy", oooooohhhhhhhh, think of the fun, having a Cylon centurion as one of the crew of the Pegasus. If Cain is not re-cast, the "old war daggit" would be spinning in his grave!!

KJ · July 21st, 2004, 01:07 PM

If Rod Haase is still alive and kicking somewhere. Commander Tolan would seem correct wouldn't it. I think that would be the most logical answer. Ironically enough first time poor Tolan took command of the Pegasus it was destroyed in Maximum Press's comics story 'Journey's End' rammed to destruction by dozens of Cylon Raiders.

Tolan is my choice.

If the role of Cain were to be recast though. Gene Hackman as Commander Cain wouldn't seem half bad at all. Hackman is one of those actors that can't be typecasted or pigeonholed into any role he does. He is also one of those actors who has played military types before because he once did so, himself serve in the military.

Lloyd Bridges role as Cain was very powerful. Even if the Battlestar Galactica series back in 1978 wasn't cancelled and had lasted 4 or 5 seasons untill 1982-83. And Cain had made several appearances. His first appearance was iconic, thus if the role MUST be recasted, only a powerful actor like Gene Hackman can/could step into his shoes.

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If Glen Larson announced a Pegasus movie was being made, would CFF support this? What if it was a Pegasus movie based on elements of TOS but not TOS?

Larson could adapt Maximum Press's 'War Of Eden' story and reverse the Galactica finding Earth 'part' and make it the Pegasus instead. Or Adam Stacey's fictional, second season stories (involving the Pegasus)

There are sooo... many avenues to go down, hundreds of ideas! It's like Robert Zemeckis's quote in the 'Back To The Future' DVD documentary. Once you've done a successful film everyone's done the sequel in their minds/heads! (Not the exact quote but near enough.)

This popular series has given birth to countless movie/TV ideas so a 'Pegasus' movie spinoff direction is almost endless.

KJ

kingfish · July 21st, 2004, 03:00 PM

Jason, I believe they intended for Cain to find Earth after he destroyed the two Basestars at the end of LL.

KJ · July 22nd, 2004, 12:31 PM

Yeah but the Pegasus was left in Gamoray space (kryillain star system to be exact) How did Cain bypassed all those Cylon outposts and get to Earth before the Galactica. That would be too convenient for the Pegasus spinoff storyline. But then again maybe a Pegasus movie should have most of the story focus on the adventure through 90% of the movie and have the ship reach earth in the last 25 minutes for the end of the picture.

Like i said if they were to recast the right actor in the lead role of Cain. Yeah we'd all see a Pegasus movie spin off done that way. But if Larson didn't recast Cain. Then the rightful next commander of the sister ship of the Galactica should be 'Colonel Tolan'.

Starbuck, Sheba and maybe even Bo -Jay have all been named somewhat as the Battlestar Pegasus next Commander. I just happen to like, strict continuity is all.

Even Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto didn't follow continuity or have a strong chain-of-command type of link in their story, by having Sheba be the Pegasus commander just because it's her father ship. It's like DeSanto saying he'd have Orin i.e. Boxey be the Commander of the Galactica in his version. That i didn't agree on at all. (maybe it was done because, Universal didn't want to use Richard Hatch?)

Yeah i'd love to see a DeSanto BG more than anything or a Hatch BG:SC or Larson Pegasus movie, in light of the crapola on offer right now!. But i'd like to see some logic in a revival or spin off, not just popular characters in command positions just because a family member had a top high ranking command position is all.

KJ

shiningstar · July 23rd, 2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Kingjason

Yeah but the Pegasus was left in Gamoray space (kryillain star system to be exact) How did Cain bypassed all those Cylon outposts and get to Earth before the Galactica. That would be too convenient for the Pegasus spinoff storyline. But then again maybe a Pegasus movie should have most of the story focus on the adventure through 90% of the movie and have the ship reach earth in the last 25 minutes for the end of the picture.

Like i said if they were to recast the right actor in the lead role of Cain. Yeah we'd all see a Pegasus movie spin off done that way. But if Larson didn't recast Cain. Then the rightful next commander of the sister ship of the Galactica should be 'Colonel Tolan'.

Starbuck, Sheba and maybe even Bo -Jay have all been named somewhat as the Battlestar Pegasus next Commander. I just happen to like, strict continuity is all.

Even Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto didn't follow continuity or have a strong chain-of-command type of link in their story, by having Sheba be the Pegasus commander just because it's her father ship. It's like DeSanto saying he'd have Orin i.e. Boxey be the Commander of the Galactica in his version. That i didn't agree on at all. (maybe it was done because, Universal didn't want to use Richard Hatch?)

Yeah i'd love to see a DeSanto BG more than anything or a Hatch BG:SC or Larson Pegasus movie, in light of the crapola on offer right now!. But i'd like to see some logic in a revival or spin off, not just popular characters in command positions just because a family member had a top high ranking command position is all.

KJ

I agree with Colonel Tolan being the rightful commander of the Pegasus if
they don't recast Cain. Personally I think Dennis Hopper would make
a TERRIFIC commander Cain.

KJ · July 24th, 2004, 10:02 AM

If anything Larson, really should have released his Battlestar Atlantis trailer which involves the Pegasus finding Earth (before the Galactica somehow) and finding the Battlestar Atlantis. The fans would have gotten a idea at his version of a Galactica spin off. Had he shown it to the Galactica fans. By making it downloadable online or showing it a convention like ComicCon, Wizardworld or DragonCon event even!

The year 2000 wasn't that long ago, does the trailer still exist somewhere?

Maybe with enough prodding Larson will cough up the goods. Then again, with Larson getting hold of Lost footage isn't easy, i.e. the deleted Cloven Hooves footage, Starbuck storms the Galactica bridge during the pilot, Starbuck catching Apollo at the end of "Hand Of God" etc.

Why wasn't or why didn't Larson play the Atlantis trailer at Galacticon last year! Is it actually good enough to be shown, is it long enough (i heard it only a minute long) or is Glen Larson redoing the trailer and saving it for a later use.

Perhaps yet another issue the Battlestar Galactica fanbase at "CFF" should take up hmmm?

KJ

shiningstar · July 24th, 2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Kingjason

If anything Larson, really should have released his Battlestar Atlantis trailer which involves the Pegasus finding Earth (before the Galactica somehow) and finding the Battlestar Atlantis. The fans would have gotten a idea at his version of a Galactica spin off. Had he shown it to the Galactica fans. By making it downloadable online or showing it a convention like ComicCon, Wizardworld or DragonCon event even!

The year 2000 wasn't that long ago, does the trailer still exist somewhere?

Maybe with enough prodding Larson will cough up the goods. Then again, with Larson getting hold of Lost footage isn't easy, i.e. the deleted Cloven Hooves footage, Starbuck storms the Galactica bridge during the pilot, Starbuck catching Apollo at the end of "Hand Of God" etc.

Why wasn't or why didn't Larson play the Atlantis trailer at Galacticon last year! Is it actually good enough to be shown, is it long enough (i heard it only a minute long) or is Glen Larson redoing the trailer and saving it for a later use.

Perhaps yet another issue the Battlestar Galactica fanbase at "CFF" should take up hmmm?

KJ

I so agree KJ

Winemaster · July 24th, 2004, 02:59 PM

I wonder if copyright issues with Todd Moyer prevents him from showing the trailer.
Does anyone know if the Pegasus was to make contact with Earth leaders and do the people of Earth get involed in the recovery of the Battlestar Atlantis?

shiningstar · July 26th, 2004, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Winemaster1

I wonder if copyright issues with Todd Moyer prevents him from showing the trailer.
Does anyone know if the Pegasus was to make contact with Earth leaders and do the people of Earth get involed in the recovery of the Battlestar Atlantis?

The people of EARTH would want to be involved in the recovery of
the Battlestar Atlantis. I know if it were me who the crew of
the Pegasus made contact with ..........I'd go after the battlestar Atlantis
and have it manned by a EARTH crew so the people on EARTH would
(without knowing or necessarily believing the colonials) have their
own battlestar and therefore being on a equal footing with our 'Allies
or would be conquerors'.

Archangel · July 26th, 2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shiningstar

The people of EARTH would want to be involved in the recovery of
the Battlestar Atlantis. I know if it were me who the crew of
the Pegasus made contact with ..........I'd go after the battlestar Atlantis
and have it manned by a EARTH crew so the people on EARTH would
(without knowing or necessarily believing the colonials) have their
own battlestar and therefore being on a equal footing with our 'Allies
or would be conquerors'.

So you would have a ship manned by a bunch of people are from a society that is the technological equivelent of Cro-Magnons? An earth-human would probably have as good of chance of blowing it up than getting it to fly straight.

kingfish · July 26th, 2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shiningstar

I agree with Colonel Tolan being the rightful commander of the Pegasus if
they don't recast Cain. Personally I think Dennis Hopper would make
a TERRIFIC commander Cain.

Dennis Hopper.

shiningstar · August 1st, 2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfish

Dennis Hopper.

OKKKKKKKKKKKKK

WHO would you LIKE?

Winemaster · August 2nd, 2004, 08:41 AM

It doesn't have to be earth of our present. It could be a future Earth

shiningstar · August 2nd, 2004, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Winemaster1

It doesn't have to be earth of our present. It could be a future Earth

That sounds good too Winemaster!

Stray Viper · August 7th, 2004, 06:59 PM

My thoughts on Pegasus reaching Earth before the Galactica: the Cylons are pursuing the Galactica, the Pegasus is presumed destroyed. They are not chasing it. Also, the Pegasus can cruise at full speed; the Galactica was always held back by the slowest ships in the rag-tag fleet. I think those two factors alone would be enough reasoning to suggest that the Pegasus, unharassed and alone, can find Earth first and prepare it for the coming war.

If successful, a story like this can generate pressure on TPTB to get the Galactica TOS storyline and make it happen.

amberstar · August 7th, 2004, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stray Viper

My thoughts on Pegasus reaching Earth before the Galactica: the Cylons are pursuing the Galactica, the Pegasus is presumed destroyed. They are not chasing it. Also, the Pegasus can cruise at full speed; the Galactica was always held back by the slowest ships in the rag-tag fleet. I think those two factors alone would be enough reasoning to suggest that the Pegasus, unharassed and alone, can find Earth first and prepare it for the coming war.

If successful, a story like this can generate pressure on TPTB to get the Galactica TOS storyline and make it happen.

Sounds good to me

shiningstar · August 8th, 2004, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stray Viper

My thoughts on Pegasus reaching Earth before the Galactica: the Cylons are pursuing the Galactica, the Pegasus is presumed destroyed. They are not chasing it. Also, the Pegasus can cruise at full speed; the Galactica was always held back by the slowest ships in the rag-tag fleet. I think those two factors alone would be enough reasoning to suggest that the Pegasus, unharassed and alone, can find Earth first and prepare it for the coming war.

If successful, a story like this can generate pressure on TPTB to get the Galactica TOS storyline and make it happen.

I agree with you. On this. I think Pegasus would do well to find Earth First.

KJ · August 8th, 2004, 09:04 AM

Damn forgot about that little fact Stray Viper. Thanks for the reminder.

kJ