The Philadelphia Experiment

[thomas7g]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/

Did anyone see the Philadelphia Experiment(1984) with Michael Pare?

This is an old... well its almost as old as galactica..but its a good little movie I liked back then. I turned on the tv and saw it on bravo just now.

Michael Pare, an underated actor from Streets of Fire, and Greatest American Hero, stars as David Herdeg as your ordinary sailor on a WWII destroyer. A group of scientists try to alter the magnetic field of the ship but instead plunge Herdeg on a wild journy through time to modern day...er 1984.

Its a good flick. Similiar to The Final Countdown, but in reverse.

[amberstar]

Yes I saw this one years ago.........it is really good! I keep getting the title confused with another movie.......
The one I confuse it with is Where a modren day aricraft carrier goes into the past ((WW2)) and has to decide if they are going to stop D Day or let it happen. I remember that one crew member stays behiend and is at port when the carrier comes back. He is now an old man.
Is that Final Count Down????????

Final Countdown was the movie where the modern aircraft carrier ends up back in time a few days before Pearl Harbor. The Commander must decide whether to alter history and prevent the attack. He ultimately decides that his job is to defend America whereever or WHENever. As he launches his aircraft to defend Hawaii the "storm" returns and he ends up unable to change history after all.

Philadelphia Experiment is very loosely (only marginally similar) based on the book with the same name. The book and the story which was supposedly true has since been proven false. I good documantary on how the story ever got started and the proof that it is false was on the History Channel.

[amberstar]

Originally Posted by Warrior

Michael Pare is also known as Eddie from the two Eddie and the Cruisers movies

That movie is a classic in my book! I loved Eddie and the Cruisers......didn't know there was a second one made!

[thomas7g]

Amber, you and I are both West Wing fans. Martin Sheen, who plays the president, was the star of Final Countdown in his younger days. Also starring was Kirk Douglas as the captain of the ship. Charles Durning as the Senator from 1941, and his aide was the beautiful Katherine Ross.

[BST]

Yes, I enjoyed the Philadelphia Experiment. Haven't seen it in a while, though. Since you mentioned the movie, it occurred to me that I just might have it on VHS (home-made tape). Can't remember which one though -- I used to make tapes and just called them Movies-vol 1, vol 2, etc. That way, if I decided to tape over something, I didn't have to make a new label for the tape. Now, I've got some searching to do!

(As a matter of fact, I enjoyed ALL of the movies mentioned on this thread, thus far. Darrell, you're absolutely right, some AWESOME music in the 2 EC movies!



The "2nd EC album" was 'Season in Hell', right?

[Gemini1999]

Tom -

They've been showing The Philadelphia Experiment this month on the Bravo channel. I've seen it a couple of times this month. I've always loved that film - it grabbed me for some reason. The late 70's/early 80's was an interesting time for Sci Fi films - they seemed to be braver with low budget films like this one. An interesting story, some decent acting by relatively unknown actors and a dash of SFX thrown in to top it off. I know that The Philadelphia Experiment is available on DVD, but I don't own a copy.

After I saw the film, I remember running out and getting a copy of the book. It was very interesting reading, but kinda scary as the people researching the book kept running into dead ends while following leads to write it. Kind of made me think about the cover up surrounding the Roswell incident.

There's a story there.....

Bryan
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[Test]

ya know... while we are talking about books, my friend gave me his very old copy of the book for Final Countdown. its very similiar, but at the very end Martin Sheen was taken to the see Tideman's industry. And he found out that all these years, the commander that was left back in 1941 had influenced world events. And his main project, was to build the time machine that sent the ship back in time!

[gmd3d]

Now there is two film I have not seen in years the Philadelphia Experiment and
Final Countdown I really enjoyed those film the second philadelphia film I never saw it any good??

[Gemini1999]

Originally Posted by potemkin72000

Now there is two film I have not seen in years the Philadelphia Experiment and
Final Countdown I really enjoyed those film the second philadelphia film I never saw it any good??

Potemkin -

Don't bother with The Philadelphia Experiment 2.... It wasn't a very good follow-up film and doesn't even qualify as a sequel. The story had almost nothing to do with the original and non of the actors reprise their roles either. Here's a summary of the plot:

Philadelphia Experiment II (1993)

David Herdeg's participation in a failed 1943 experiment in radar invisibility has propelled him 40 years into the future. An aberration in his genetic makeup enabled him to pass through the portal of time. It has also made him sensitive to any alteration to the time continuum. Another disasterous experiment in 1993 sends a stealth aircraft through the time portal, into 1943 Germany. Simultaneously, Herdeg is pulled into the portal, and finds himself in the terrifying 1993 that resulted from a Nazi victory in World War II.

It's not available on DVD, but if you hunt around, you might find it on VHS if you are really curious.

Best,
Bryan
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[thomas7g]

dejavu!

Originally Posted by Gemini1999

Tom -

After I saw the film, I remember running out and getting a copy of the book. It was very interesting reading, but kinda scary as the people researching the book kept running into dead ends while following leads to write it. Kind of made me think about the cover up surrounding the Roswell incident.

There's a story there.....

Bryan

Watch the Philadelphia Experiment documentary as part of History's Mysteries on the History Channel. It uncovers the dead ends. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your view of things) it shows that there is no reality to the "Philadelphia Experiment" rumor. It is very interesting however to see how the rumor got started and how the story took on a life of its own for many years. It also shows how once these things get out in the public there are vested interest that do not publish information that reputes these rumors.

Watch the similar documentary on the "Roswell Incident" on the History Channel. You can see how that story took a life of its own also.

I read books on both subjects in my younger days. They go a long way in proving in my mind that a little knowledge is dangerous. I went from knowing nothing on each subject to being fairly well versed and a believer in Roswell and a believer that something happened in the Philadelphia Experiment. Now years later with much more information I am not a believer in either one.

In the UFOs are aliens realm I have gone from being a true believer to an alien agnostic with a lot of questions.

[thomas7g]

or perhaps the History Channe too is part of the conspiracy to conceal information!!!!

[Gemini1999]

Since we've been talking about the movie and Antelope mentioned a History Channel program concerning the myth surrounding the "dissappearance" of the U.S.S. Eldridge in 1943, I did some reading online of my own. I found a website that is focused on The Philadelphia Experiment. It has a number of links and lists all of the books, articles & TV programs on the subject. The guy's site has won 7 awards! It's pretty informative... Here's the link:

The Philaldelphia Experiment from A to Z

Have fun!

Bryan

[Gemini1999]

Even better! I found a website called "The Philadelphia Experiment: What They Didn't Want You To Know".

There is some very cool reading there and if anything, it makes you wonder if the whole thing didn't really happen....(or not). I won't try and summarize it all, but you can read it on the website:

The Philadelphia Experiment: What They Didn't Want You To Know

It looks like the mystery is still around.....

Bryan

Originally Posted by thomas7g

or perhaps the History Channe too is part of the conspiracy to conceal information!!!!

:laugh: :laugh:

I am a big believer in the conspiracy of the stupid to cover their ass!

Conspiracy theories sell a lot more books than the truth! I think people think the government is a lot more powerful and secretive then it is. As a former military officer specializing in chemical and nuclear warfare I can say that despite all the secret briefings I attended over the years I learned almost nothing that I hadn't read in the free media. I usually knew more than the people giving the lectures and presentations because I was much more widely read on the subjects. Once while at the Chemical warfare school then at Fort McClellen, AL I spoke with a Phd lecturer after a secret briefing. I told this lecturer she was mistaken on the subject presented. When I told her what I believed to be reality she became very concerned about how I knew what I knew. I explained I read many media reports and pieced it together. I could tell she didn't believe me and thought I had a friend who told me things I was not authorized to know.

The government doesn't do well at hiding anything. The way they get away with things is simply by ignoring them. Unless the mainstream media picks up the subject everything out there disappears into the background noise.

You can read a lot about the Kennedy assasination but when you get into the nuts and bolts without an ax to grind or book to sell it turns out that Lee Harvey Oswald had no problem doing what he did the way he did it all by himself. The fact that a lot of people in various government agencies stepped on each other or had people in high pay grades that weren't competent to do the jobs they did fuels all the speculation we have today.

When you believe that the U.S. government, military, and CIA are all powerful organizations that know everything out there you have to turn to conspiracy theory because it's just too hard to admit most of the people running our country are no smarter than you are, just as lazy, and want to get home at the end of the work day. Most went to work for the government because the pay and benefits are good. None will admit it but despite what they say they aren't looking for work somewhere else. The government employees howl (usually state employees/when do they ever lay off non-military federal employees?) whenever there is an employee reduction. You would think they would just step into those high paying private sector jobs they always selflessly claim they are passing up on to be a civil servant.

We think the Muslims are fools for believing that Israel and the CIA pulled off 9/11 but many of the same people who laugh at them think the CIA shot Kennedy and the military has aliens in cold storage.