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Old October 3rd, 2005, 02:31 PM   #1
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In LPOTG, Apollo and Starbuck's Viper patrol enters a void where no stars can be seen and which plays havoc with their instruments.

Can anything like this be attributable to any known astronomical phenomenon?
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In LPOTG, Apollo and Starbuck's Viper patrol enters a void where no stars can be seen and which plays havoc with their instruments.

Can anything like this be attributable to any known astronomical phenomenon?
I've been giving this some thought...It's the one knock in my "jump-line drive" theory.

What I came up with to mate it to the jump-line idea was that the Kobol system-entry point was on the very rim of the system; within - starting about where Jupiter would be for us - there is a dense cloud of magnetically-charged carbon material, sort of magnetized soot, that sends senors zoomy, at least for a time.

But, the cloud is maybe one to three light seconds thick - say, c.560,000 miles. Within it, unless you close your eyes and barrel straight through on turbo's, you'll end up flying in circles until your fuel exhausts.....
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I've been giving this son thought...It's the one knock in my "jump-line drive" theory.

What I came up with to mate it to the jump-line idea was that the Kobol system-entry point was on the very rim of the system; within - starting about where Jupiter would be for us - there is a dense cloud of magnetically-charged carbon material, sort of magnetized soot, that sends senors zoomy, at least for a time.

But, the cloud is maybe one to three light seconds thick - say, c.560,000 miles. Within it, unless you close your eyes and barrel straight through on turbo's, you'll end up flying in circles until your fuel exhausts.....
Ah, but where did the magnetised soot come from?
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Ah, but where did the magnetised soot come from?
Heheheheheh......Okay, make that: Muhuwahahahahahah:

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm et al

This is a stupidly long article, but well worth the read, even if its nothing but sci-fi.....

Lots of people have trouble with Hoaglund, but this is too good to pass up:

Nobody ever said that the "leaving" of Kobol was 'peaceful'
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Can anything like this be attributable to any known astronomical phenomenon?
They can be attributed to many similar phenomena but of vastly different scales.

There are void areas between stars within our galactic arms, figure a few hundred light years. There are voids *between* the galactic arms, those could be a couple thousand light years (depending on distance from center and other factors). There are voids between galaxies in their respective local clusters, those are from 20K light years (for a local satelite galaxy), to 10's of millions. There are voids between galactic clusters (the biggest ones), anywhere from 10's of millions to 100's of millions of light years across. One of the biggest voids is the one in Bootes. It's a supervoid. Supervoids are at least 100 million LY's in diameter. The Void in Bootes is about 250 million LY's across. Currently, they think it's filled with Dark Matter.

Personally I think the void in LPOTG is either a small scale interstellar void, or an intra-arm void. Any other scale would probably not be navigable by sub-light vehicles in anything under 20,000 years (i.e. the "void" between the Megellantic clouds and the Milky Way for example). Those aren't true voids BTW. True voids are only on the largest measurement scales used in cosmology. They've been compared to the interior of soap bubbles but on a scale measured in 10's of millions of lightyears.

If you want more information, here's a favorite astronomy site of mine with some stuff on it. It's a bit technical in some places, but informative:

http://www.astro.uu.nl/~strous/AA/en/boom/bel.html
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