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February 16th, 2005, 03:29 PM
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Are We Being jammed ?
I found something very interesting. I taped the G 1980 marathon that aired the same day as the Nu BG premiere at 9PM. I had taped the episode a year or so back but they didn't come that great so I figured I would make another copy to transfer to my new DVD recorder. Ironically the tape I made on January14th couldn't be transfered [it said copyright protected but I taped it off my television]. I guess they don't want us making Nu Galactica dvds.
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February 16th, 2005, 03:46 PM
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Cable or dish?
Dish I have had no prob recording nuBG to VHS (Don't have a DVD recorder).
Maybe it's your settings? Have you tested them on other channels or programs from SciFi?
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February 16th, 2005, 05:10 PM
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I have cable. I did test it on other shows I previously recorded off of sci fi to VHS which including the BG marathon that ran for a week where the episodes were remastered for our enjoyment and had no problems transferring it to the dvd.
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February 16th, 2005, 05:40 PM
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Why does this go under criticism? While I understand people getting mad about not being allowed to file-share after recording an episode, when a broadcast is made that can be right-protected isn't it the owners of the property's right to do so? Just like it's their right to right-protect their DVDs. You don't seriously mean this as a criticism do you? If they wanted they could shelf it forever and we'd NEVER be able to make copies or even watch it.
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February 16th, 2005, 05:43 PM
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Well considering I purchased 2 os DVD sets and Galactica 1980 isn't slated for release on DVD format, I wanted to make myself and I say myself dvds of 1980.
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February 16th, 2005, 05:45 PM
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Mustex,
Criticism can mean many things to many people.
If a person chooses to voice this as a criticism, it is his or her prerogative.
BST
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February 16th, 2005, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfish
Well considering I purchased 2 os DVD sets and Galactica 1980 isn't slated for release on DVD format, I wanted to make myself and I say myself dvds of 1980.
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You actually WANT G80 DVDs (with the exception of ROST, in which case I can understand)?
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February 16th, 2005, 06:20 PM
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...and the problem with that is... what?
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February 16th, 2005, 06:36 PM
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Same could be said about nuBG, and no doubt some say the same about osBG 
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"Respect the past. It brought you the present."
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February 16th, 2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrior
Same could be said about nuBG, and no doubt some say the same about osBG 
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If G80 fans exist (minus ROST) please inform me of them and I'll stop bashing it.

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February 16th, 2005, 06:44 PM
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Me. SteveW. Kingfish. I know there is a few others out and about too.
As for me liking it, there's certain aspects I like.
Superscouts and anything involving them I can do without. Same for Z.
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"If not for the original Battlestar Galactica series , then there would be no new show."
"If not for the original ST series, then there would be no ST movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager or 'Enterprise'."
"Legends never die... They just get new Captains."
"Respect the past. It brought you the present."
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February 17th, 2005, 01:53 AM
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G80 is a must for any "completist" fan.
While it has its trying moments, it is a product of its time and budget.
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February 17th, 2005, 05:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustex
Wanting G80 DVDs means you want to waste precious DVD space saving copies that you probably want to waste brain-cells watching.

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Well since personal attacks are allowed at a site I used to love I guess I will leave. Good luck to all.
Regards,
Paul
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February 17th, 2005, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrior
Me. SteveW. Kingfish. I know there is a few others out and about too.
As for me liking it, there's certain aspects I like.
Superscouts and anything involving them I can do without. Same for Z.
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Add me to the list of a fan of G80. 
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February 17th, 2005, 10:25 AM
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I, too, am a fan of Galactica 1980. After the cancellation of the original series, it was all "we" had, even though it was very different. It did have Herb Jefferson, albeit in Colonel Tight's role, and the "Return of Starbuck" episode is classic. I did enjoy meeting and talking extensively with Ken McCord at an area collectible show a few years back concerning Galactica 1980; he had some interesting things to say about where "1980" was heading but was never realized because of the cancellation.....
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February 17th, 2005, 11:00 AM
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I remember watching Galactica 1980 back in 1979. I did watch the series every week, I liked the Turbines (flying bikes) and some of the new characters, but found the earthbound theme very limiting. I liked "Galactica Discovers Earth" for the most part, but I found the Colonials being portrayed as quite ignorant when it came to the "primitive" nature of Earth society an in-joke that was played too often. I also wasn't fond of the fact that the Colonials hid from their Terran brothers and tried to advance human society from the sidelines.
Like I said, I did watch every week and I was only 19 at the time, didn't question the show very much, but still missed the more dynamic and familiar characters of the original Battlestar Galactica. I remember looking forward to "The Night the Cylons Landed", which basically degraded into a Halloween themed story with Wolfman Jack, a human looking Cylon and Centurion that was called "Centuri". It could have been a lot better and I would have liked to see the Colonials intervene in somthing better than a taxicab and stolen white tailcoats and tall hats.
"The Return of Starbuck" was easily the highlight of the series - they must have known the end was coming for the series, which gave them time to put together an episode that Galactica fans could actually watch and enjoy. I really need to buy a tape of this episode so I can see it again!
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February 17th, 2005, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
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If G80 fans exist (minus ROST) please inform me of them and I'll stop bashing it.

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There are several and they deserve as much respect as TNS fans. More appreciate it now as it didn't completely wipe out the premise or mythos of TOS as TNS did with "the cylons were created by man". We're also adults now and understand the politics of what the network timeslot did to the stories presented.
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February 17th, 2005, 11:49 AM
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Julie -
Where's Peter at? He's the biggest Galactica 1980 fan I can think of! I know that he'd have something to say in defense of it...
Best,
Bryan
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February 17th, 2005, 12:29 PM
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Don't know.
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February 17th, 2005, 01:23 PM
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February 17th, 2005, 01:27 PM
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February 17th, 2005, 01:47 PM
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February 17th, 2005, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
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Peter -
Who knew that Cylons had a sense of humour.....!
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February 17th, 2005, 02:08 PM
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Does your viper do time travel as well Gemini ? I always presumed that Galactica 1980 was released in 1980 ??? Then again, what would I know I wasn't even born in 1980 !
Return of Starbuck is of course the highlight of G80 in my view, and probably most other people's views as well. It is ironic that an episode that was part of the G80 spin-off series, could be one of the main inspirations of plotlines to most Continuations of the TOS, including Richard's Second Coming.
For that episode alone, the series is worthwhile.
During my first time of watching Galactica 1980 (those paying attention will realise that would have to be a re-run) I did enjoy the series, and to be honest still do. I thought the turbines were great, and would love to see them in a Continuation.
Aside from some of the science being a little far fetched (invisble people or time travelling vipers ?) I enjoyed it because that did not do anything to contradict the Original Series. It was also FUN to watch !
And I think that sentiment is something that we should all remember, considering the reprocussions this thread has already had - this is meant to be FUN....
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February 17th, 2005, 03:02 PM
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The highlight of G'80 is the Space Croppers and the unfilmed script The Wheel of Fire.
The first episode of Galactica Discovers Earth was broadcast on January 27, 1980.
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February 17th, 2005, 03:25 PM
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Oh, my, Peter said the high point of a series was an unfilmed script!
That one is going in to the permanent file.
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February 17th, 2005, 03:32 PM
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Back on topic...
Paul, have you found out any more information in regards to your recordings?
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February 17th, 2005, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
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Back on topic...
Paul, have you found out any more information in regards to your recordings?
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Darrell -
Is Paul still around? I got the impression he wasn't coming back..
Bryan
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February 17th, 2005, 07:31 PM
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This thread says a lot more about TNS than G80 when you think about it. It really puts into perspective how much some of us dislike the new series that we're having a fond nostalgic discussion about what used to be the red-headed stepchild of Galactica fandom.
G80 might not have ignored what happened in TOS like the new show does, but it did something worse. It made it a punchline. The deadly vipers from the original series were reduced to being essentially shuttles to ferry the characters to Earth and back. The white uniforms became emblematic (inexplicably) of time travel. And the colonial sidearm, so legendary in The Lost Warrior is replaced by a freeze ray! Hell, CHiPs even showed up in a episode. (kinda)
I suppose its cute, and has its place... but do we really have to invest it with some kind of validity?
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February 17th, 2005, 09:01 PM
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Hey, at least as bad as Galactica 1980 was, it is still theoretically possible to salvage it. When I read a brilliant piece of fanfic that attempted to reconcile G80 to the original series it inspired me to write my own set of G80 stories that did likewise, and I found that I could have fun taking the basic G80 universe and reconciling it to the original series in good storytelling. You can NEVER do that with TNS, and that to me is the ultimate difference.
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