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Mustex January 2nd, 2005 06:23 PM

15 Yahren?
 
O.k., if I have this right there was a "15 Yahren Convention" in 1993. But that was 15 years after TOS. I thought a Yahren was 250 days. I did the math and that would make it about 22 yahren. :wtf:

Muffit January 2nd, 2005 08:45 PM

Hi Mustex! Actually, I think a yahren is an exaggerated tale spun by old warriors around a campfire...

:D

amberstar January 2nd, 2005 09:06 PM

lol muffut :D

I just assumed it was the colonial year
(obviously shorter than earth years) ;)

thomas7g January 2nd, 2005 09:09 PM

I would ask Kitty how long a yarn is.

:)

amberstar January 2nd, 2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas7g
I would ask Kitty how long a yarn is.

:)

Good idea Tom ;)

Darrell Lawrence January 3rd, 2005 12:35 PM

Where'd the info come from that a yahren was only 250 days?

...and has anyone asked Kitty how long the yarn is? ;)

Gemini1999 January 3rd, 2005 12:58 PM

As far as the 250-day calendar for the Colonial measurement of a "Yahren", that comes from Richard Hatch's novels, not from the series. I suppose it depends on the reader if they want to take that reference as "canon" or not.

The word, "Yahren" is also the German word for "Year". As far as the Convention title goes, if you speak German, it's correct. Iit seems a bit illogical holding them to an obscure reference in a book that was written well after the Convention was held.

I mean, Trek fans interpret the "stardate" reference so they can use it to get current dates out of it - it's not real, just a fictional reference.

Best,
Bryan

BST January 3rd, 2005 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini1999
I mean, Trek fans interpret the "stardate" reference so they can use it to get current dates out of it - it's not real, just a fictional reference.

Best,
Bryan

The idea of a stardate was to standardize time across Federation space with all member planets, systems following the "same calendar". Granted, it was an invention for a fictitious show.

:)

Mustex January 3rd, 2005 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrior
Where'd the info come from that a yahren was only 250 days?

...and has anyone asked Kitty how long the yarn is? ;)

Armageddon. I assumed it was backed up from somewhere.

Mustex January 3rd, 2005 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini1999
As far as the 250-day calendar for the Colonial measurement of a "Yahren", that comes from Richard Hatch's novels, not from the series. I suppose it depends on the reader if they want to take that reference as "canon" or not.

The word, "Yahren" is also the German word for "Year". As far as the Convention title goes, if you speak German, it's correct. Iit seems a bit illogical holding them to an obscure reference in a book that was written well after the Convention was held.

I mean, Trek fans interpret the "stardate" reference so they can use it to get current dates out of it - it's not real, just a fictional reference.

Best,
Bryan

Opps, didn't realize Hatch made it up.

dilbertman January 3rd, 2005 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BST
The idea of a stardate was to standardize time across Federation space with all member planets, systems following the "same calendar". Granted, it was an invention for a fictitious show.

:)

Maybe 'Yahren' is the same for Galactica. A standardize time across the 12 planets, following the "same calendar"? Both in the pilot and 1980 you hear 'year' used.

Jim :salute:

jewels January 4th, 2005 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustex
Armageddon. I assumed it was backed up from somewhere.

I have a weird suspicion (I never remember to ask Richard) that he might have just used some math on a statement Adama makes about colonials living 200 yahrens (LPOTG) and divided that by 120 or 130 of our years (there's a thing in the old testament Bible that says that men would be limited to 120 or 130 year long lives, Adam lived 900+, I think the extra long lives went on until at least the flood.)
That would make a colonial yahren about 2/3 of an earth year. Most of the time earth times are used it is a writing mistake in the series.

larocque6689 January 28th, 2005 04:19 PM

Richard used a bunch of material from the Colonial Warriors Technical Manual, which he placed at the end of one of his novels. For that act alone he got a mauling from certain quarters of fandom.

http://www.kobol.com/archives/timeunit.html

Personally, having invested (or wasted if you prefer) the time into figuring out the Colonial System merely reinforced my opinion that the sooner these Colonialisms were flushed out "canon", the better.

Note - there was no "day" in TOS, although you might have gotten away with time cycle.


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