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jjrakman October 2nd, 2006 07:19 PM

How do you make a fan edit?
 
So you copy a DVD, break it up into parts, and glue it back together again in a different order, maybe leaving some parts out.

How do you do that? What software do you use?

I might want to try my hand at this. Not the fancy graphics DK does, but just a simple recut.

David Kerin October 3rd, 2006 03:45 AM

It's not that difficult. To get the files to the computer for editing you can use a program called DVD Decrypter (free out there on the internet). This copies the video files (.vob files) to your drive.

At that point you can use a program called MPEG Video Wizard (I don't think is free), which is an editing program, to put the files together and edit away. You can then render an mpeg2 file back out when done and set it up to a DVD disk, using a DVD burnng/designing program. Most DVD burners have some way of doing this.

Myself I don't use the Video Wizard program as I like working with Adobe Premiere. For that I have to go through a few more timely hoops because Premiere won't directly read .vob files, so I have to convert them over to avi DV files. I prefer Premiere because of the numerous video/graphic layers that can come in handy. Plus I am very familiar with its interface.

If you do want, or have, to convert the vob to avi there is a program (also free on the internet) called DVD2AVI. This will re-render the vob files to avi files. There are some tricky things to getting this to work right so if you can stay on the MPEG Video Wizard course it would be muh easier. And less frustrating.

I will say that editing can be quite fun. Getting into an episode, seeing how it was edited, and how with the right cut, dissolve, music cue... you can do your own edits and have them look natural and un-noticable. Hopefully at least.

SilentBob October 3rd, 2006 08:52 AM

How do you make a fan edit?

Lock him in a room with an editing machine, an instruction manual, no food, and a cylon centurion with a laser rifle.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

jjrakman October 3rd, 2006 09:44 AM

I'll have to look around for free software. I don't want to spend money on something I only want to play around with.

rjandron October 3rd, 2006 02:44 PM

There is some free editing software available--it all depends on how in-depth you want to be. Here's a list of free editing software copied from 3DBuzz:

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Avid Free DV (Geedie says XP only): Avid Free DV is simply a streamlined version of Avid's professional video editing software and has many limited capabilities. Once you’ve had a chance to familiarize yourself with the Avid editing interface we recommend upgrading to Avid Xpress DV or Avid Xpress Pro where you will benefit dramatically with increased functionality and power.
http://www.avid.com/freedv/features.asp

AVE Visual Editor: enables user without any programming experience to use the power of AviSynth. With AVE Visual Editor you simply connect icons with lines and when graph is complete watch the output.
http://www.avisynth.org/vion11/aveguide.html

AviTricks: is a non-linear, non-destructive AVI video editor with real-time preview. It makes cutting and joining footage easy and includes a wide range of built-in adjustable effects that can be used separately or in combination. The AviTricks Video Editor is still in production.
http://www.bobyte.com/

Cinelerra (Linux only): Unlike most of the Linux solutions out there, Cinelerra requires no emulation of proprietary operating systems, no commercial add-ons, no banner advertizements, no corporate dependancies, no terrorists, just a boring old Linux box.
http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

DDClip: is a professional, non-linear, non-destructive, multitrack, real-time audio and video editor for Windows. It allows you to process and mix up to 32 high-quality audio tracks (24 bit/96 kHz is available) with real-time audio effects (including any DirectX plug-ins) on PC with any Windows-compatible sound card.
http://www.softlab-nsk.com/ddclipro/index.html

Jahshaka: is the worlds first OpenSource Realtime Editing and Effects System. Jahshaka takes advantage of the power of OpenGL and OpenML to give its users exceptional levels of performance. Edit with flexibility and speed, create effects in real time, animate with unlimited features, paint and design on moving video, create music with all the tools the pros use, work in any format at any resolution and more.
http://www.jahshaka.org/

Videocharge: VideoCharge is a multifunction, easy in use software product for conversion of Video, Audio, or Image files sequences!
http://www.videocharge.com/

Virtualdub: VirtualDub is a video capture/processing utility for 32-bit Windows platforms (95/98/ME/NT4/2000/XP), licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It lacks the editing power of a general-purpose editor such as Adobe Premiere, but is streamlined for fast linear operations over video.
http://www.virtualdub.org/

Wax: is a high performance and flexible video compositing and special effects software. The idea for Wax is to be very general purpose and flexible in video compositing and effects, so that you can compose your dream video sequence with ease everytime.
http://www.debugmode.com/wax/

zs4: is video editing and compositing software which aims to provide media experts with a facility to combine a variety of media types (currently photos, videos and audio files) into one (or more) output file(s).
http://www.zs4.net/
That should give you a good starting point.

David Kerin October 3rd, 2006 02:45 PM

You know there is the Movie Maker program that comes with windows. Not sure what it's full capacities are, but it could be used as well and would be free. Don't think it reads vob files through so youwould have to convert them to avi.

Another program to convert vob to avi is AutoGoridian Knot, which I believe is also a freebee.

So with DVD Decrypter, AutoGoridian Knot (which transcodes the video from vob to avi) and windows Movie Maker, you may be set to go.

jjrakman October 3rd, 2006 02:52 PM

I'll have to check them out later. As far as how in depth I want to get, not much.

Basically I've done the same sort of thing years ago with two VCR's to make an ultimate DUNE cut combining the TV version and theatrical into one. I just want to recut a film. Nothing more.

jjrakman October 3rd, 2006 08:09 PM

By the way DK, thanks much for the links.

Also I was wondering, have you thought of putting this back in somewhere:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ffq43Ow_s

In the description Bishop says it was from Experiment in Terra, which is kind of odd since the Cylons don't even appear there. It almost might be more appropriate in the pilot, but not sure.

I wonder if anyone has a clear copy of it.

David Kerin October 4th, 2006 06:22 PM

Well first, not wanting to steal credit of any sort, I didn't post all those links... rjrandon did. And in all honesty a good collection that I will be browsing through myself. Thanks a ton RJ

Secondly, I did see that before. It was from the syndicated tv movie version of EIT and thought it was interesting that after the series they actually produced that for the syndicated package. The shots with the astronaut were rediculous, but the paintings depicting the Cylons were beautiful. I wonder if they exist anywhere out there today. I don't have any good quality versions of that so I probably will not include it, but it would be cool to use if I did.

Charybdis October 5th, 2006 08:12 AM

I began my very amatuer career in video editing and making fanfilms (the Battlestar Callisto series) using the supplied Windows Movie Maker program.

All you do is connect up a DVD player to your computer and capture it into the program. From there, you can edit it all you want. It can be a very easy thing if you just have the right video card/cables connected to your computer and that simple editing program...

KJ October 18th, 2006 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Kerin
Well first, not wanting to steal credit of any sort, I didn't post all those links... rjrandon did. And in all honesty a good collection that I will be browsing through myself. Thanks a ton RJ

Secondly, I did see that before. It was from the syndicated tv movie version of EIT and thought it was interesting that after the series they actually produced that for the syndicated package. The shots with the astronaut were rediculous, but the paintings depicting the Cylons were beautiful. I wonder if they exist anywhere out there today. I don't have any good quality versions of that so I probably will not include it, but it would be cool to use if I did.

You might not, but i would?

Hopefully one day as a holographic kind of recording, which Apollo shows to Boxey during the pilot episode when he is talking about the Cylon's origin etc! Or simply add it onto a fan made Galactica DVD as a 'Telemovie' clip in the extras scene selection menu that shows odds bits and bobs from BG's past and whatnot.

KJ

jjrakman October 18th, 2006 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charybdis
I began my very amatuer career in video editing and making fanfilms (the Battlestar Callisto series) using the supplied Windows Movie Maker program.

All you do is connect up a DVD player to your computer and capture it into the program. From there, you can edit it all you want. It can be a very easy thing if you just have the right video card/cables connected to your computer and that simple editing program...

What about a DVD burner/drive?

melvinjoe December 13th, 2020 09:13 PM

Re: How do you make a fan edit?
 
Use image editing and video editing software to make fan art. Today we have a lot of techniques to change our creativity into art !!

Senmut December 13th, 2020 09:54 PM

Re: How do you make a fan edit?
 
Make a fan edit? Give him some footage and an editing machine. Usually works...

Charybdis December 14th, 2020 01:20 PM

Re: How do you make a fan edit?
 
I would say it's a lot easier now. You can very easily connect DVD players to your laptop to input the video signal and record it. Then, just open it up in your editing software.

As for DVD authoring, most editing software comes with that as part of it so you can make menus, etc. for your DVD ...

Eric Paddon December 14th, 2020 02:25 PM

Re: How do you make a fan edit?
 
I've been ripping the Blu-Rays and making new edits of the episodes by putting the telemovie and other deleted scenes footage back in. If you have a good program for ripping the Blu-Rays like DVDFab and also have Movie Maker it's actually pretty easy. This way I don't have to watch the entire low-quality telemovie version of "Living Legend" just to see the key cut scene of Apollo and Sheba in the launch bay and can see the rest of the episode in top quality (the cut footage will never look as good as the episode proper).


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