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Senmut October 28th, 2004 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Charybdis
Judging from the info given on the show, was Charybdis on Caprica? or was he ever on the Atlantia with Baltar?

The episode says he was on Caprica sabotaging the defense computers that night, so he could not have been with Baltar on the Atlantia. But it does give one pause to think that if Charybdis was in on it, how many others were too???


Boomer calls him "Baltar's pilot". Since Baltar says he was caught by the Cylons "between the President's Battlestar and my own", he must have been in a shuttle. Of course, he is lying, but someone must have flown him home. Charybdis is our only suspect at this point.

bsg1fan1975 December 1st, 2004 11:38 AM

just loved those triad outfits. The crush I had on Dirk and Richard escalated due to this episode. Still drool over those tiny little outfits even to this day!

julix December 1st, 2004 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bsg1fan1975
just loved those triad outfits. The crush I had on Dirk and Richard escalated due to this episode. Still drool over those tiny little outfits even to this day!



BSG I am with ya 100% on this :P: :love: :blush:

Eric Paddon December 1st, 2004 09:16 PM

What would the costumes have been like if there'd been a women's triad league in the Fleet? :D

Spike The Cylon March 19th, 2005 04:35 AM

To me, this episode has always been a slow one, but it , like "Man with Nine Lives" shows how the fleet has other thngs to do besides fight Cylons.


:colonial: :warrior: :cylon: :viper:

Senmut October 15th, 2006 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charybdis
Judging from the info given on the show, was Charybdis on Caprica? or was he ever on the Atlantia with Baltar?

The episode says he was on Caprica sabotaging the defense computers that night, so he could not have been with Baltar on the Atlantia. But it does give one pause to think that if Charybdis was in on it, how many others were too???


Since each Colony was hit, we have to assume it was a Colonies-wide sabotage. Since it would have been impossible for Charybdis to have been on all 12 planets in the timeframe required, he probably used a virue or tapeworm program, to make sure all the defense systems went down at the proper time. Hence, he could have both sabotaged the defense computers, and flown Baltar where he needed to go.

Eric Paddon October 15th, 2006 10:54 AM

I think it more likely that Charybdis sabotaged the computers *before* piloting Baltar to the Atlantia and then getting him off safely before the attack began.

Senmut May 11th, 2011 10:46 PM

Re: BG-12: Murder On The Rising Star
 
You admire the triad players for their minds, right?

Benedict May 11th, 2011 11:11 PM

Re: BG-12: Murder On The Rising Star
 
Do like Benedict's mention of the uniforms on the documentary.. "We were like pieces of meat", joking of course. Murder's a good little episode though the story behind one scene, where Lockhart and Spang wedgied Benedict and Hatch.

Oh and seeing Brock Peters in Galactica wasn't too bad.

Croft2018 March 21st, 2020 04:17 AM

Re: BG-12: Murder On The Rising Star
 
A rival of Starbuck's, Ortega (Frank Ashmore) is found dead and evidence says he did it; Apollo takes on his defence (his Protector) in the legal case but he lacks experience. Boomer and Apollo investigate and find that circumstantial evidence indicates that the killer is one Karibdis, the man who helped disable the Caprican defence systems for Baltar and thus allow the Cylon forces to attack ... who is now living in the fleet under an alias. Baltar is recruited from the Prison Barge as he's the only one who can spot Karibdis.

Usually considered one of the weakest BG episodes and and it's thumpingly obvious that Starbuck isn't a murderer from the off, but the script, production and performances are good enough to distract from the fact that the resolution is a foregone conclusion. Throw in two other suspects with secrets to hide and given that the writers had only two days to get this script done, it's surprisingly engaging.

This is still a filler episode and a minor entry in the sense of the series taken overall but I found that I enjoyed it much more than previously with this viewing. There are several nice little aspects to this episode that indicate the wider Colonial culture like the broadcasts, the Triad game and the fact that many in the fleet follow the sport (also seen in War of the Gods).

It's also interesting in how it portrays Ortega as a blackmailer; a sound bit of depth to a Colonial Warrior that we hadn't had before; a shame he hadn't been a semi regular. I also found the depiction of the Colonial legal system interesting; it would've been good to see that explored in the further seasons.

Of course the 2003-09 remake did explore the darker, negative side of the premise to the hilt; sadly, it didn't deal with the positive side much.

Croft2018 November 18th, 2020 02:53 PM

Re: BG-12: Murder On The Rising Star
 
I would be good to have a graphic novel of Saga of a Star World that incorporated more of the Baltar-Karybdis plot to sabotage the colonies.

Senmut November 18th, 2020 04:37 PM

Re: BG-12: Murder On The Rising Star
 
Yes. Pulling off the utter surprise of the Cylon attack obviously took a great deal of planning and agents in place. More of that would have been good.


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