New Battlestar pic

[gmd3d]

Hi Here is my first picture where I have use a terrain and not space . I used Terragan
to help with the land image .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/taranispics/FLEET/groundattack.jpg

[gmd3d]

This is my first orbit background with Terragen, I have called it Baltars world where he is stranded after the Hand Of God episode TOS in my fanfic. The Engine flares are just for the WIP :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/taranispics/FLEET/6ef1b41f.jpg


Crimson Viper Mk.II BY Dave Charnow & Brandon Bray and the Viper : HGibbens
I changed the colour of the Crimson Viper from ... well crimson to the silver grey because I don't like the colour when rendered in my images.

I updated the picture placing a little dirt on the meshes and I things look a little better :D

[Senmut]

Great pix. Just one tiny nitpick on the Cylon...shouldn't there be some control surfaces be visible on the Raider up and functioning, since it's in an atmosphere?

Where's the terrain, BTW?

[gmd3d]

I don't know what the control surface look like and the planet was designed in terragen , the lake and the land is also designed .
I will try to add some form of control surface is there any picture to help I might be able to draw tham in :D

[Spike The Cylon]

Pretty cool!

[gmd3d]

thanks Spike.
The new prog is a lot of fun and I am happy to be able to work on my own background for space and planets. It give me more control of what I want to depict
in the images.

I also want to do a picture from my fanfic , seeing baltar been left behind on a planet
and watching the departing shuttle etc :)

[Spike The Cylon]

thanks Spike.
The new prog is a lot of fun and I am happy to be able to work on my own background for space and planets. It give me more control of what I want to depict
in the images.

I also want to do a picture from my fanfic , seeing baltar been left behind on a planet
and watching the departing shuttle etc :)

Can't wait to see that one. :thumbsup:

[gmd3d]

I made this while learning how to build . I thought of you spike when I saw the final result :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/taranispics/spikesworld.jpg

[Spike The Cylon]

I made this while learning how to build . I thought of you spike when I saw the final result :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/taranispics/spikesworld.jpg
Cool. There are lots of spikes :D

[gmd3d]

Here we go. In its proper place . :D

Here is a new picture . In this I have used for the first time lens flares and the whole pic is done in TS . hope you like it .. I do and am quite pleased with myself

http://img224.exs.cx/img224/5600/space20dl.th.jpg (http://img224.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img224&image=space20dl.jpg)

We let me know what You think . be kind :D but be honest :LOL:

[Rigel_No_6]

Taranis - these are great. I know it's been mentioned on another thread but what software are you using to create these? I do bits and pieces of production work (logos and such, you can't really call it art) at work and use Illustrator, PSP, and Photoshop but would like to move beyond them.

Keep up the good work and keep posting them here. I think I'm going to use the one with the ships for my wallpaper at home!

Rigel :Nsalute:

[gmd3d]

Rigel I am a Truespace user and the other prog I use are DOGWAFFLE an art program I use to have to add the engine flares later with that one. But I started to use the Lenflare in TS and I am happy with the results .
A little more fine tuneing and I will be a lot better.
My pc is not powerful enough to add lesflares to Stevews Galcatica mesh it has frozen a number of time.

Taranis - these are great. I know it's been mentioned on another thread but what software are you using to create these? I do bits and pieces of production work (logos and such, you can't really call it art) at work and use Illustrator, PSP, and Photoshop but would like to move beyond them.

You can download Truespace3.2 for free if you want to get into this side of thing , but i am still a learner and can only help abit if yor decided to go for it.

http://www.caligari.com/products/truespace/ts3/

http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=fp-tab-web-t-1&ei=ISO-8859-1&p=truespace3.2&meta=vc%3D

you have to register but that ok and the ts forums are handy :D
I would like photoshop myself it seem to be a well used program but I think artforms come in many packages and a few member here have done some great stuff using your tools. If you have done art with them and in the bsg universe please post :D

[Spike The Cylon]

:thumbsup:

[gmd3d]

Keep up the good work and keep posting them here. I think I'm going to use the one with the ships for my wallpaper at home!

Really !! wow thank I am delighted you like it that much :salute: I am

[gmd3d]

Thanks spike .. I am still working on the baltar pic :D

[NOT-WARRIOR]

Looking MUCH better lighting wise on that space pic.

As for that terragin one, use it as a background image and have your Vipers flying in there. Try to match the lighting/shadows up with what the terragin pic has ;)

[gmd3d]

Thanks warrior , :thumbsup: I anm happy with the space pic .
as to the tarregen Its a whole diffrent ball game working in atmosphere :D

[justjackrandom]

Great pix. Just one tiny nitpick on the Cylon...shouldn't there be some control surfaces be visible on the Raider up and functioning, since it's in an atmosphere?


They really are great pix!!! On control surfaces: I used to think they existed as we thought of them as well, but there is no need of mechanical control surfaces on either of the viper or raider.

If we assume that the way they fly in space (as in a fluid) is made possible by somehow using gravitons as resistance, then you would be able to do the same in a deep gravity well. This use of gravity as a resisting media also gives us more understanding as to Tigh and Adama’s admonition to the viper pilots approaching Arcta to stay out of the world’s gravity field.

--JJR

[gmd3d]

Thanks JJR ,

If we assume that the way they fly in space (as in a fluid) is made possible by somehow using gravitons as resistance, then you would be able to do the same in a deep gravity well. This use of gravity as a resisting media also gives us more understanding as to Tigh and Adama’s admonition to the viper pilots approaching Arcta to stay out of the world’s gravity field.

where do you get this stuff .. is it in a book or from your own ideas

[gmd3d]

New BSG pic
http://img221.exs.cx/img221/5339/longpatrol12yx.th.jpg (http://img221.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img221&image=longpatrol12yx.jpg)

[justjackrandom]

Thanks JJR ,
where do you get this stuff .. is it in a book or from your own ideas

Welcome.

Its mostly my own thought. I have been a fan since the show aired, but the real detailed thinking is only about three years old. It all started when I first heard the announcement about TNS. I got into a debate with some friends who thought that the bad science, bad thought, and bad writing that made up a good deal of TOS could stand to be corrected. They challenged me to take one thing, and show scientific plausibility, social justification, and purposeful design on the part of the show’s creators, without contradicting anything else seen or heard in the show. I accepted, and found that the task lead to doing it for the entire show. So, for the last three years, I have poured over every line of dialogue, looked at every scene in detail, and spent hours reading scientific journals and books covering everything from M-Theory to bio-robotics to pulsed-plasma power generation to wine making techniques. My research has been very rewarding, and I've been successful for the most part. I am oh so slowly creating a web site with my conclusions, and who knows, may someday publish it all as a book. Till then I mostly share it here...

-- JJR :salute:

[gmd3d]

I was going to suggest a book or an E-BOOK over the wed perhaps in PDF format

[Stevew]

"T" I just finished a major update on the Big G meshe. I totally redid the mid body and it is much more accurate. I will upload it if you are interested
S :)

[gmd3d]

What COOOLL work a way . do i want it HA :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: .

[Stevew]

I am still making a few adjustments, it is quite big (almost 900K polys) but you can do some nice closeups and it will not fall apart
S

[gmd3d]

is it close to the other Gs

[gmd3d]

when I want to desplay the landing bays internally what would be the best lighting set up . local light or ???

[Stevew]

It is mainly different in the middle
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/SWPIKS/BigG.jpg

[Stevew]

Here is the bottom
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/SWPIKS/BigGU.jpg


http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/downloads/meshesnotforrel/?M=D

BTW the landing bays are hollow and are like clam shells so you can add what ever you want inside

[gmd3d]

God the detail is incredible . I hope my PC will be able to handle the INFO .. I can't wait to get her into some battles . having cylon raiders and Vipers battling it out around . battle damage

[Stevew]

I put the wrong tex on it and am changing it as we speak
S :Nsad:

[gmd3d]

Ok, just go back in to start downloading.
Let me know when you have its done. will the Galactica name be going in at some stage ? on the side of the landing bay hull ..

I also have a request .. could you up load on of the the landbays on its own so I can
work with it and use the internal areas ... I will try to build the runway

[Stevew]

It is there
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/downloads/meshesnotforrel/?M=D
All you have to do is seperate the bays, they are in pieces, do one them mirror.
They have the object axes set to the 0/0 point so when you finish just mirror
S :)

[gmd3d]

Ok thank I am starting to download now

[Stevew]

Look forward to DS9 as well
S :D :D

[gmd3d]

Coming soon to a BSG web site near you DS9 GETS A visit from the BSG :thumbsup:

[gmd3d]

All you have to do is seperate the bays, they are in pieces, do one them mirror.
They have the object axes set to the 0/0 point so when you finish just mirror

OK I will try . I want to have the bay seperate so I can work easer with it

[Stevew]

As I said the bays can be seperated and are a clam shell so you can work on it from the inside
S

[gmd3d]

I have been exploring in inside working out how I can try and I mean TRY to fill it with stuff . :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Stevew]

There is a top and bottom, just copy each and add what you wish from the inside and replace them. Keep the object axes always on the 00 and normalize position when finished and it should just fall back into place
S

[gmd3d]

How can I get just the area that I want to copie and use . I want to get this right

[Stevew]

In TS just use the arrow keys to go up and down the pieces, always save a copy
S

[gmd3d]

Ok S, i Will give it a go and will let you know how I get on .. :D
I hope the student is not fustrating the master builder

[Stevew]

We all started from the begining at some point
S :D :D :D

[gmd3d]

Oh thats good. I don't want to be locked in the coal bunker alnight again..

[Stevew]

SHHHHHH the PC police will be after me again
:LOL:

[gmd3d]

Does that mean you will unlock the ball and chain soon :D

[Stevew]

Never til I see a DS9 :)

[gmd3d]

:cry: :cry: swine Ok I will have one tomorrow OK ok .

But this time leave some food

[gmd3d]

Here is a background I did and I have placed the DS9 to give you an idea there is no lightingyet

http://img182.exs.cx/img182/7209/ds9q4et.th.jpg (http://img182.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img182&image=ds9q4et.jpg)

[Stevew]

Cool Looks like you are missing some texes
:LOL: :D :LOL:

[gmd3d]

Just one or two ... :) :salute: :D

[Spike The Cylon]

Here is a background I did and I have placed the DS9 to give you an idea there is no lightingyet

http://img182.exs.cx/img182/7209/ds9q4et.th.jpg (http://img182.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img182&image=ds9q4et.jpg)
Awesome!

[gmd3d]

Thanks spike . the DS9 mesh is cool and easy to work with ... I will be adding the mighty G later :)

[gmd3d]

Here is the DS9 and Galactica and a few other ships thrown in for luck :salute: http://i154.exs.cx/img154/3742/wip2xr.th.jpg (http://img154.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img154&image=wip2xr.jpg)

[Stevew]

I think the G is too big, lots of stuff there. Are you going to use the latest G meshe? I see you got the texes as well. Could be a great pik
S :D

[gmd3d]

I think the G is too big, lots of stuff there. Are you going to use the latest G meshe? I see you got the texes as well. Could be a great pik.

Your right about the size. I will correct later . I have tryed to your the new mesh but for some reason I get the message about the vertual memory running out . I am try to change that . I will keep you posted :salute:
Can you unlock the ball and chain now??? :warrior: :D

[Stevew]

You might have to set your virtual memory settings higher. The meshe is 40M by itself. When I was rendering it the Task Manager was up to 1.9G of memory used and sometimes it gives me an out of memory msg and I have 1.5G of RAM, cuess I need more
S

[gmd3d]

Ok ..but my Pc is starting to blow respberries at me when I as it to do things :P: . I am starting to get nervous . :LOL:

[Stevew]

They are huge files :D

[gmd3d]

any future thoughts of designing smaller Galactica's for puny PC like mine ... in the 10 mgs range ???

[Stevew]

I believe you have all the meshes that I have done
:D

[gmd3d]

Yes my PC is starting to develop a bulge ... :LOL: .

[gmd3d]

Is this any better for scaling .. never mind the lighting it was only a quicky :D
http://img180.exs.cx/img180/6042/mak115qx.th.jpg (http://img180.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img180&image=mak115qx.jpg)

[Stevew]

Yes but for some reason G looks like it is over DS9, there seems to be no depth of field
s

[gmd3d]

depth of field " can you explain that system to me a little. I use it but don't full understand how to get the best out of it

[Fragmentary]

Is there a way to change the colors of the ships so that when one is front of the other its' easier to tell them apart? Like giving DS9 a brown tint and making the Ent E brighter than say Galactica? Might help.

[gmd3d]

I think I can do that by rendering the ships when thay are alone and using other coloured lights .. I will give it a go now

[gmd3d]

Heres another with depth of field ..needs some tweking
http://img211.exs.cx/img211/6103/test00018ql.th.jpg (http://img211.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img211&image=test00018ql.jpg)

[Spike The Cylon]

Heres another with depth of field ..needs some tweking
http://img211.exs.cx/img211/6103/test00018ql.th.jpg (http://img211.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img211&image=test00018ql.jpg)
Awesome, as always :thumbsup:

[Stevew]

Much better, You might try a more overhead view to seperate them
S :)

[gmd3d]

Thanks Spike , :thumbsup:
I will change the angle next time steve . :D

[gmd3d]

Here is another pic , there is a slight light differance on DS9. Frag is this any better or what your thinking off???

http://img185.exs.cx/img185/4445/galds018bc.th.jpg (http://img185.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img185&image=galds018bc.jpg)

[Stevew]

I would look down from the top more
S

[gmd3d]

the top of DS9 ? and the G in the same angle?

[gmd3d]

Does anyone now the size of DS9 ?

[Stevew]

Yes I thought it was about a mile
S

[gmd3d]

A mile , that big ...Ok then I never really thought about it before ,,, the TNG Enterprise was about 2000ft or so ???

[gmd3d]

Steve could you build the viper cockpit some thing like this so we can add the control designed by JJR ?

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/355/cockpit16co.th.jpg (http://img217.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img217&image=cockpit16co.jpg)

[gmd3d]

I pasted in one of his pics I does not do his pic justice

[gmd3d]

Here is another angle ..
http://img193.exs.cx/img193/7889/cockpit4zo.th.jpg (http://img193.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img193&image=cockpit4zo.jpg)

[gmd3d]

Here is my first rendering of stevew Atlantis mesh .. I have yet to get his new one


http://img101.exs.cx/img101/1239/stevewatl14zk.th.jpg (http://img101.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img101&image=stevewatl14zk.jpg)

[Stevew]

Can I live there?
:D :D :D

[gmd3d]

Sure .. top appartment room with a view :salute: :D

[Stevew]

Works for me :)
S

[gmd3d]

How many room would the gentle man require for his use ... we have very reasonable prices for any one wishing to live in some prime real estate :D :salute:

[Stevew]

3 bderooms sleep, play and studio :)

[justjackrandom]

Does anyone now the size of DS9 ?

I have my tech manual at home. I'll look it up and post it for you tomorow.

--JJR

[gmd3d]

Thanks JJR :thumbsup:

[Tanky]

Sorry to tell you but there is no definate size to DS9. Trust me, the arguements have been raging back and forth for years. The DS9 Tech Mannual is also horrendously wrong with most ships sizes. Visual evidence in the show also varies almost week to week. One of Treks big downfalls is inconsistant FX. For example the Klingon Bird-of-Prey has been seen any where from 50m to 700m long :Nsad:

This site is probably the best place to get an answer http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ or the people on this forum http://scn.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x can help you out. Show them some of your work and Im sure they'll go out of their way to help, though their very helpful all the time. They'd love to see some great renders like yours :Nsalute:

Keep up the good work.

[Stevew]

"T" you might fing thie page interesting
http://www.merzo.net/index.html
S :)

[Tanky]

Yeh, I've seen it. I'm just warning you all that if you use some offical dimentions, it still may not look right.

If you look at this page you'll see what I mean http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop-size.htm

Here is a whole sub-directory on problems like that one. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles.htm

I'm just a Trekkie trying to warn you of sizing problems in Trek. And the best people to talk to about them are on that forum I posted above (PS I wasnt trying to advertise that forum, just help you out. If its Trek, they know it)

And thanks Steve that is a great site, just like most sites, the Trek sizing may not be right.

[Stevew]

I love this site. I had heard a long time ago it was about a mile or so and if you look at the prominade and compare the people inside, it seems about right. When I did the model I tried to find out but that was all I could find out
S

[gmd3d]

Thanks Tanky and steve: I will keep the work going and expanding what I can do.
Galactica and Trek are my fav universes ..

[justjackrandom]

Sorry to tell you but there is no definate size to DS9. Trust me, the arguements have been raging back and forth for years. The DS9 Tech Mannual is also horrendously wrong with most ships sizes. Visual evidence in the show also varies almost week to week. One of Treks big downfalls is inconsistant FX. For example the Klingon Bird-of-Prey has been seen any where from 50m to 700m long.

The same problems exist in Galactica. The issue is particularly bad in shows and films that used the old multi shot composite method to create the ships, which is where the issue of the Bird-of-Prey comes in (all shows before 3rd season of ST:TNG). My problem with Trek is that for years, even after they had gone totally digital, they still seemed to have problems with this. B-5 really pioneered space effects with structured model sizes that accruately interacted.

--JJR

[Stevew]

"T" I thought I would repost this. Fabio did such a great job with some of my early meshes.
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/SWPIKS/libranpatrol.jpg

S :)

[gmd3d]

WOW .. THAT IS GREAT.. the texs are differant

[gmd3d]

is Fabio a turespace user

[Stevew]

Fab's is great and he uses LW
S :)

[gmd3d]

I would love to use those meshes on your "Galactica"

[Stevew]

I believe they are all on the meshe link
S :)

[gmd3d]

your mesh link

[Stevew]

http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/downloads/meshesnotforrel/?M=D

[gmd3d]

Whats kentarus I don't know if i have seen that one before

[Stevew]

Just another ship I did
S

[gmd3d]

A new one ?? I think I must have it :)

[Stevew]

I am sure, they all should be there
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/SWPIKS/kentarus.jpg

[gmd3d]

I don't have that one ...I will soon change that :) :salute: :D

[Stevew]

You might want to look thru all the piks
S

[justjackrandom]

You might want to look thru all the piks
S

Wow! ... And I say again... Wow!

-JJR :salute: :salute:

[gmd3d]

I checked I don't have it .. have started to down load ,

[Stevew]

Thanks J

[gmd3d]

Here is a new BSG picture . I am trying to alter the lighting without killing my PC :D

Let me know what you think . :D

http://img110.echo.cx/img110/3591/fleet27fs.th.jpg (http://img110.echo.cx/my.php?image=fleet27fs.jpg)

[gmd3d]

Here is one of Stevew's Galactica meshes and pixeltek excellent Viper .. I hope you like it :salute:
http://img179.echo.cx/img179/3282/landing1by.th.jpg (http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=landing1by.jpg)

[Stevew]

"T" I would love to see more light from the right, just enough to see some detail
sorta like this one that Fab's did
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/SWPIKS/BSG/Destroyer.jpg

[gmd3d]

Thats one cool picture : have to learn how he got that weathered look on the hull

[Stevew]

Ask Fab's, he did it
:D

[Fragmentary]

Here is one of Stevew's Galactica meshes and pixeltek excellent Viper .. I hope you like it :salute:
I missed the vipers the first time I looked at this. Maybe you could drop them a little so that they are angeling up toward the landing. Or Steve's suggestion about more light might do the trick. Nice work all the same. :salute:

[gmd3d]

Will do .. When I ordered LW I foolishly went for the one without the hardcopie manual and went for the disc copie ... And I hate having to read it on the pc...I will have to order a hard copie.

[Senmut]

They really are great pix!!! On control surfaces: I used to think they existed as we thought of them as well, but there is no need of mechanical control surfaces on either of the viper or raider.

If we assume that the way they fly in space (as in a fluid) is made possible by somehow using gravitons as resistance, then you would be able to do the same in a deep gravity well. This use of gravity as a resisting media also gives us more understanding as to Tigh and Adama’s admonition to the viper pilots approaching Arcta to stay out of the world’s gravity field.

--JJR

Both craft look as if they are equipped with control surfaces. Maybe as back-up in an atmosphere if the primary system should fail?

[Senmut]

"T" I would love to see more light from the right, just enough to see some detail
sorta like this one that Fab's did
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/SWPIKS/BSG/Destroyer.jpg


Cool. Early model Battlestar? Looks derelict, to moi.

[Lexar]

Outstanding use of textures and lighting!

[mikala]

Wow! These are Lightwave meshes? If they are or not is irrelevant...as they are just amazing!
I am enjoying the renders throughout this thread! Great job.

[Stevew]

Thank you M Those were done in Truspace and converted to LW bu Fab's and Darrell. They did a great job. Everything I do io now is in Solidworks
S :)

[gmd3d]

I am still only the apprantice ... steves models are the true stars of my work ,, sometimes i think I under use them ..not enough light but I am getting better..

[Stevew]

Thanks "T" but it is guys like you that make them look good
S :salute:

[madmikeee]

Very nice.

[Vladimir]

excellent work,as always :)