Should I take this as a put-down

[Mustex]

I noticed the CFF letters had the words "the one and only, original". Is this attacking TNS, or is it simply saying it's the only original? Don't get me wrong, my letters go out tommorrow, minus the words "one and only".

[jewels]

I think it's trying to differentiate the original (1978) series from the "Scifi original miniseries/series" Scifi likes to claim SG-1 as theirs, Andromeda as theirs, etc. when they weren't the original creators or broadcasters.

Hope that helps.

(some of us could comfortably take that wording word for word, also we are trying to be crystal clear to Mr. Larson and Mr. DeSanto about which show we want a movie of).

Thank you for writing the letters.

[Ioraptor]

I modified my letter to reflect that I enjoyed Ron Moores TV series but that I would enjoy a movie continuation based on the original Battlestar Galactica.

I think its important for Larsen and DeSanto to realize that not only are fans of the old series writing these letters but also fans of the new series. I am a firm believer in the proliferation of all things Battlestar Galactica and I think it would be much better for the BSG mythos to diversify in this manner.

There might be a lingering idea in Larsens and DeSantos heads that only supporters of TOS are in favor of a continuation movie. Lets disabuse them of this notion.

Make it clear that the movie should be a continuation of the original Battlestar Galacticas adventures and give a nod towards RDMs BSG to let them know where you are coming from.

Thats my approach.
And if we are lucky we get BOTH! :) WIN WIN!

[ernie90125]

A very good point is made by Ioraptor, that we must not do anything to give the impression that Glen and Tom only have half a fanbase following them....

But, I couldn't really say what Ioraptor has said about liking both in my letter, because it wouldn't be true....

[thomas7g]

I assume the idea was that there was a certian legitimacy to the old show that can not be negated by the new one. It is slightly defensive in favor of the old show. Its a bit of a rallying call in defense of the old show by fans that feel hurt.

But really... that defensive part is not worth really upset if you like the new show. Do as you are doing. Support the shows you like. That is the best path to walk.

:)

[kingfish]

"One and original." Well this is differentiating our product from the Moore product. What do we want? A CONTINUATION of the Larson product with hopefully Tom DeSanto onboard. Why tell him that? So they (The Studio) don't get confused and give us a big screen version of Moore's show.

[Ioraptor]

Kingfish makes an important point. Maybe someday RDMs version will have its shot at the big screen (if, if, if) but the original BSG deserves its day in the theaters with all that makes it different from the new series.

The CFF effort is all about a Continuation Movie. The continuing adventures of the original rag tag fleet and the fate of its people.

[kingfish]

Thanks Io. Somebody sees the light.

[Antelope]

I think those running CFF inadvertantly take swipes at the mini I but don't think they do it intentionally. We still have many that are routing for Moore's version to die as much as routing for a Continuation.

We are a team when it comes to a TOS Continuation. We definitely aren't a team when it comes to Moore's version.

[kingfish]

I think those running CFF inadvertantly take swipes at the mini I but don't think they do it intentionally. We still have many that are routing for Moore's version to die as much as routing for a Continuation.

We are a team when it comes to a the original Battlestar Galactica series Continuation. We definitely aren't a team when it comes to Moore's version.



I agree that we are a team when it comes to the new show. What bought us together a commonality between tos and Moore's show, RICHARD HATCH.

[Antelope]

I agree that we are a team when it comes to the new show. What bought us together a commonality between the original Battlestar Galactica series and Moore's show, RICHARD HATCH.

My view of Richard Hatch is pretty much the same its been since before he announced he was going to be on the Moore version. I have however watched him be run over like roadkill by some who sung his praises only months before.

From Moore's statements you see his casting Hatch is definitely an attempt to capitalize on Hatch's name recognition among TOS fans for publicity reasons. I will be curious to see after Bastille Day airs if his appearance heals or exacerbates the wounds some TOS only fans have.

[thomas7g]

I don't think its a good practice to judge the good or evil in people by what show's they are on or not on.

;)

[kingfish]

I don't think its a good practice to judge the good or evil in people by what show's they are on or not on.

;)




Hatch is certainly not evil. If it weren't for his efforts BG might have been relegated to the trash barge. Universal sure and hell didn't want anything to do with it after 1980. Hatch saw that there was an interest for a show that lasted one season and made a trailer showing that there was still a story to be made. Adama dead and Apollo with his hands full leading the survivors to Earth. Hatch could have said the hell with it all, moved on and never looked back. Hatch probably would have been a megastar by now. Look at his own creation Great War. I have seen some of the online trailers at richardhatch.com. Richard invented something totally new.

[Dawg]

Paul, it's "The Great War of Magellan". Apparently there are novels, comic books (or 'graphic novels'), and perhaps an animated (CGI?) effort (this is from memory, so check it out for yourselves, folks).

And, no - you can't fault Richard for appearing, since the role was probably written with him in mind. A challenge to an actor, and a paycheck. Any animosity I feel towards his appearing is directed solely at RDM for blatant stunt-casting, in order to further muddy the waters in this fandom and perhaps "win over" some of the borderline fans.

Of course, the episodes he's in will probably be the best of the series.... ;)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[Mustex]

I think those running CFF inadvertantly take swipes at the mini I but don't think they do it intentionally. We still have many that are routing for Moore's version to die as much as routing for a Continuation.

We are a team when it comes to a the original Battlestar Galactica series Continuation. We definitely aren't a team when it comes to Moore's version.

Unfortunately, that's not entirely true. There was some psycho on the Scifi Bboards claiming first that Richard Hatch had prostate cancer (later changed it to Dirks Benedict), and then that he was arrested for cocaine use. He made some other claims, but I don't remember them. He ended all his posts with some comment about how there were too many cast members dead to continue the story, and we should all rally behind Moore. :erk:

[Mustex]

My view of Richard Hatch is pretty much the same its been since before he announced he was going to be on the Moore version. I have however watched him be run over like roadkill by some who sung his praises only months before.

From Moore's statements you see his casting Hatch is definitely an attempt to capitalize on Hatch's name recognition among the original Battlestar Galactica series fans for publicity reasons. I will be curious to see after Bastille Day airs if his appearance heals or exacerbates the wounds some the original Battlestar Galactica series only fans have.

I just hope they come up with a reason for Hatch to say "The opposite of war is often slavery." I don't know why, but for some reason that line sticks in my mind right up there with "SO SAY WE ALL!" and "May the Force be with you."

[Reverend Dr Syn]

I noticed the CFF letters had the words "the one and only, original". Is this attacking the Ron Moore Battlestar Galactica series , or is it simply saying it's the only original? Don't get me wrong, my letters go out tommorrow, minus the words "one and only".


Dude. Lighten up. We know youve got this consuming fascination of the show. God knows youve made that more than clear. Thats just how THEY feel. They arent claiming to speak for you or all fans. Their campaign, their letters, their buisness. Really now, to make a point of this looks really hypersensitive.

Someone here made a page dedicated to the new series. By your standards there I could take that as an affront to TOS, But I didnt. I certainly didnt feel like making an issue out of such a pointless little notion that may well NEVER factored into the sites creation at all. I just chalked it up to that person liking the new show, and moved on with my life.

[Mustex]

Dude. Lighten up. We know youve got this consuming fascination of the show. God knows youve made that more than clear. Thats just how THEY feel. They arent claiming to speak for you or all fans. Their campaign, their letters, their buisness. Really now, to make a point of this looks really hypersensitive.

Someone here made a page dedicated to the new series. By your standards there I could take that as an affront to the original Battlestar Galactica series , But I didnt. I certainly didnt feel like making an issue out of such a pointless little notion that may well NEVER factored into the sites creation at all. I just chalked it up to that person liking the new show, and moved on with my life.

Sorry if this sounded rude. I wasn't saying they WERE taking a shot at the new show, it was just that I wasn't sure how to take it (for instance are they saying that show was "one of a kind", which it certainly was? :blush: ).

[bsg1fan1975]

Kingfish makes an important point. Maybe someday RDMs version will have its shot at the big screen (if, if, if) but the original BSG deserves its day in the theaters with all that makes it different from the new series.

The CFF effort is all about a Continuation Movie. The continuing adventures of the original rag tag fleet and the fate of its people.


Ioraptor, I am in agreement with you. We have waited far too long to see our old friends again! :colonial:

[Antelope]

Unfortunately, that's not entirely true. There was some psycho on the Scifi Bboards claiming first that Richard Hatch had prostate cancer (later changed it to Dirks Benedict), and then that he was arrested for cocaine use. He made some other claims, but I don't remember them. He ended all his posts with some comment about how there were too many cast members dead to continue the story, and we should all rally behind Moore. :erk:

I think your key word was PSYCHO!

Unlike the major Battlestar boards the scifi board has been and continues to be today filled with trolls. There are some nice people there but there are a significant number of people (or handles) that are just there to rile people up. I think its best to ignore what people say on the scifi board unless the person is a regular on a major battlestar board also (CF, BGClub, Cylon Alliance). The trolls at scifi come in all stripes--TOS haters and mini haters. I suspect some of them post on different handles flaming both sides.

Recently I saw a scifi board rumor by a troll getting a lot of talk on some major Battlestar boards. Unfortunately sometimes even the original Battlestar Galactica series -only fans help these trolls when they hear the news they want to hear.

My advice: If you aren't familar with the handle don't spread the rumor or discuss it. You're only encouraging the trolls on.

[thomas7g]

wise words.

:D

I hate the skiffy board. Its filled with people who lack social skills. Unfortunately they are constantly able to provoke the good people into being idiots too. Its llike nobody can learn to take a step back over there.

You have that problem on any popular board. But its magnified when you don't have mods there. :D