States May Ban Abortion if Roe Overturned

[Rowan]

States May Ban Abortion if Roe Overturned (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/US/abortion_rights_debate/latest_developments/*http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041005/ap_on_re_us/abortion_states_2)
:eek: Wow that is very scary!!!




http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=US&cat=Abortion_Rights_Debate

[bsg1fan1975]

I know. The guy that I initally started helping on his campaign is trying to encourage it. That is one of the reasons I left the campaign. I don't agree with his strategy or the way his issues were slanted. They were basically slanted because of his religion.

Hopefully this doesn't happen!

[Charybdis]

So, you don't want religious thinking to get in the way of the innocent killing of babies in their wombs??

[cranky1c]

In order for there to be an overturning there would need to be a case before the court for a ruling to be made upon. I realize this is a longer term concern, but I'm not seeing anything in the courts calender this year through January. (http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/docket/2004)

"So, you don't want religious thinking to get in the way of the innocent killing of babies in their wombs??"

(Although I'm sure I'm going to regret this, I'm going to respond and be as respectful as I know how of the fact that people of good will disagree about this.)

I would much prefer religious thinking and beliefs getting in the way of a womans decision making abortion than the state making the decision for her. I know honest people of good will disagree on this, but I tend to think the state should have very limited reach (and grasp) over a persons body.

[Charybdis]

That's a good way of putting it, cranky..do we really want the state to be in that much control over us?

Regardless of where you fall on this issue, the less the state is involved, the better off we all are overall!!!

In the end, let's let the people decide, not some judge appointed for life.

[bsg1fan1975]

My view is its woman's body and its her choice. No one else religious leaders or any kind of governement has the right to impose their will on her choice!

[warhammerdriver]

I think it would take a major shift in the compostion of the Court to overturn Roe. That probably won't happen anytime soon.

[Senmut]

Some of the BESt news to come along in a long time. I shall dance on Roe's grave!!!!!!!

[thomas7g]

This is a major reason not to vote for Bush....

[Rowan]

Ouch Sen! :( From a woman's perspective I would like to be able to decide what is or is not done to my own body. Back in 1967 my mother required power of attorney from my father to be allowed to have surgery performed on her body in his absence she required his permission, that was the law in Quebec, I was born in 1964. Women were objects to be owned by men in my lifetime (my mother also had to ask his permission to get a job). Women were not considered persons under the law until 1929 in Canada; my mother was born in 1926. In the USA women are still not equal to men by law the ERA still has never been passed. It is 2004 and women are still not equal and it is men who are still deciding this...

[thomas7g]

In the USA women are still not equal to men by law the ERA still has never been passed. It is 2004 and women are still not equal and it is men who are still deciding this...That's not exactly true. :)

The ERA amendment may not be part of the constitution. But that doesn't mean women don't get fair representation in the US goverment and legal system. After all there is no Equal Rights for Asian amendment either.

Of course there are places and circumstances where people regardless of gender are treated unfairly, but the US does support equal rights for women.

[Rowan]

That's not exactly true. :)

The ERA amendment may not be part of the constitution. But that doesn't mean women don't get fair representation in the US goverment and legal system. After all there is no Equal Rights for Asian amendment either.

Of course there are places and circumstances where people regardless of gender are treated unfairly, but the US does support equal rights for women.Are women allowed in combat? (god I just caught myself still using that word "allowed" I still think that way see?!):wtf:

http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/overview.htm

women comprise 51% of the population...is 51% of the US government women?;) :)


The 15 states that have not ratified the ERA are Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Virginia.

You know for those men out there who want joint custody of their kids this amendment is for you too!




The Equal Rights Amendment affirms that both women and men hold equally all of the rights guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution. It would provide a remedy for sex discrimination for both women and men, and give equal legal status to women for the first time in our country’s history.

The most important effect of the ERA would be to clarify the status of sex discrimination for the courts, whose decisions still show confusion about how to deal with such claims. For the first time, “sex” would be a suspect classification like race. It would require the same high level of “strict scrutiny” and have to meet the same high level of justification – a “necessary” relation to a “compelling” state interest – as the classification of race.

[thomas7g]

They are allowed in combat. In boardrooms, schools, sports, ..... They are even allowed in MALE locker rooms because it would handicap sport reporters if they weren't able to catch the players after a game.
:eek:

Which means men aren't allowed any privacy to dress!

The military is an entirely different animal than the rest of soceity. It is by its nature practicing laws and procedures that would be unethical in normal soceity. It orders people to kill. It punishes people who disobey that order. YOu aren't allowed to quit the job when you want. You have no right to deny doing a job. Or to choose WHERE you want to work. It tells you where you will work and sleep and live. It can tell you who you can and can't talk to. All of these goes against basic rights afforded to most ordinary people.

:D

There is a bias against women in combat. But that doesn't mean american soceity isn't providing equal rights.

[thomas7g]

women comprise 51% of the population...is 51% of the US government women?http://thomas7g.com/battlestar-galactica/smilies/colonial-wink.gif http://thomas7g.com/battlestar-galactica/smilies/colonial-smile.gif
Women are allowed in equal chance at those govermental positions. And a woman can sue if she is denied the position if the decision was based on gender bias.

:)

[Rowan]

Thomas is getting his wish! ;) :D

by I. Moore
Right now, the only constitutionally guaranteed right that women have is the right to vote (19th Amendment). All other "rights and priviledges" American women enjoy are based upon interpretations of the Constitution. These interpretations are subject to the whims of politicians and lawmakers. This is particularly evident right now because many of the gains that women have made over the last few decades are law based and are under attack. Laws can be amended, eroded or repealed, in most states by a single vote. The ERA will establish, once and for all, that equality under the Constitution applies equally to the legal genders.

[thomas7g]

I support Roe V Wade. But The issue of whether it is upheld or not is largely defined by weather or not you support abortion. It has a great effect on women. But that does not mean the US is pursuing anti-female policies or attitudes.


Like I said...there is no Equal Right for Asians Amendment. That does not mean that the US is treating me unfairly.

:)

[Senmut]

This is a major reason not to vote for Bush....


Quite the opposite. The people Bush is likely to appoint to the Supreme Court will most likely have their heads on straight, unlike Kerry's shills.