TwoBrainedCylon
September 16th, 2004, 08:55 AM
[[[Reposted from Skiffy]]
From my e-mail I gather that a pair of troublemakers are trying to reinvigorate the Clone Wars. With the handy IGNORE feature of the new Skiffy board this isn't going to be much of a hassle for me since those stirring up trouble will simply cease to exist the moment they become a problem, as I can cease to exist for so many others when they tire of me. (I LOVE that feature!!!)
Until then, I'd like to make a few points to others.
1. The Clone Warriors Have Retired: If you weren't a victim or participaint of the Clone Wars you don't really have a reason to be involved in it. Your feelings weren't hurt. You weren't harmed. You weren't attacked. You didn't commit any acts that you should apologize for. Further, you don't have the knowledge or experience needed to fairly judge anyone involved in it. So, simply, stay out of it.
2. Remember the TrekLord Poll: The first round of the Clone Wars began with unsubstantiated rumors from questionable sources trying to rile up people who would otherwise have gone happily on their way. In most cases, the person pointing out the offense and encouraging you to get upset about it ARE THEMSELVES THE PROBLEM. If you want a peaceful fandom, tell those insisting on pointing out the offenses of the past or present to leave you alone. Robert Miller says he got upset after reading John's list of past activities and was inspired on his crusade. Presuming that's true, the person providing that list is as responsible for the present instability in fandom as those who committed the original acts. Its far easier and far more proper to tell people "I don't care" when they try to get you upset about something you weren't invovled in the first place. As I've noted, the troublemakers only power is to get a reaction from you.
3. Qualify opinions: Before accepting advise on how to react to anything in this fandom, whether it be another poster, Ron Moore, the new series, or whatever, ensure that you are listening to someone worth listening to. This varies from person to person but I strongly suggest that you not be pursuaded by someone who hasn't earned your respect or who has demonstrated questionable characteristics. One aspect common to the twerps who have caused all of the trouble in the past is that they've asked others to engage in some moderately questionable activity for some "greater good". This has ranged from certifying that they might have seen something they didn't see or joining in to attack someone "who really deserved it".
4. Check Your Facts: A catalyst in the Clone Wars was that people accepted information that wasn't valid. Much of this fell apart under modest scrutiny. I sense much the same going on now. In the Clone Wars, we dealt with identity thieves and frauds. When something doesn't pass the smell test, it probably shouldn't. This ranged from an internet poll that some guy at Universal was secretly conducting to guage fan reaction to well known people supposedly being driven away from fandom by backroom deals to cover up unfavorable comments they made on an actor's baby book. Before launching an attack or starting a campaign to forward or denounce a certain point of view, make sure you really know the situation.
Those wanting to renew such games pose as your friends but do not have your best intentions at heart. In general, they will present a great need or crisis you didn't know about and want you to support their actions, which would otherwise be totally out of line.
Use some common sense and tell those wanting to stir up trouble to shut up.
... and then use the IGNORE option.
Sandy
From my e-mail I gather that a pair of troublemakers are trying to reinvigorate the Clone Wars. With the handy IGNORE feature of the new Skiffy board this isn't going to be much of a hassle for me since those stirring up trouble will simply cease to exist the moment they become a problem, as I can cease to exist for so many others when they tire of me. (I LOVE that feature!!!)
Until then, I'd like to make a few points to others.
1. The Clone Warriors Have Retired: If you weren't a victim or participaint of the Clone Wars you don't really have a reason to be involved in it. Your feelings weren't hurt. You weren't harmed. You weren't attacked. You didn't commit any acts that you should apologize for. Further, you don't have the knowledge or experience needed to fairly judge anyone involved in it. So, simply, stay out of it.
2. Remember the TrekLord Poll: The first round of the Clone Wars began with unsubstantiated rumors from questionable sources trying to rile up people who would otherwise have gone happily on their way. In most cases, the person pointing out the offense and encouraging you to get upset about it ARE THEMSELVES THE PROBLEM. If you want a peaceful fandom, tell those insisting on pointing out the offenses of the past or present to leave you alone. Robert Miller says he got upset after reading John's list of past activities and was inspired on his crusade. Presuming that's true, the person providing that list is as responsible for the present instability in fandom as those who committed the original acts. Its far easier and far more proper to tell people "I don't care" when they try to get you upset about something you weren't invovled in the first place. As I've noted, the troublemakers only power is to get a reaction from you.
3. Qualify opinions: Before accepting advise on how to react to anything in this fandom, whether it be another poster, Ron Moore, the new series, or whatever, ensure that you are listening to someone worth listening to. This varies from person to person but I strongly suggest that you not be pursuaded by someone who hasn't earned your respect or who has demonstrated questionable characteristics. One aspect common to the twerps who have caused all of the trouble in the past is that they've asked others to engage in some moderately questionable activity for some "greater good". This has ranged from certifying that they might have seen something they didn't see or joining in to attack someone "who really deserved it".
4. Check Your Facts: A catalyst in the Clone Wars was that people accepted information that wasn't valid. Much of this fell apart under modest scrutiny. I sense much the same going on now. In the Clone Wars, we dealt with identity thieves and frauds. When something doesn't pass the smell test, it probably shouldn't. This ranged from an internet poll that some guy at Universal was secretly conducting to guage fan reaction to well known people supposedly being driven away from fandom by backroom deals to cover up unfavorable comments they made on an actor's baby book. Before launching an attack or starting a campaign to forward or denounce a certain point of view, make sure you really know the situation.
Those wanting to renew such games pose as your friends but do not have your best intentions at heart. In general, they will present a great need or crisis you didn't know about and want you to support their actions, which would otherwise be totally out of line.
Use some common sense and tell those wanting to stir up trouble to shut up.
... and then use the IGNORE option.
Sandy