Interesting BSG Episode Titles

[koenigrules]

Some of the new Galactica episode titles sound interesting:
#10. The Hand of God (same title as the last episode of TOS)
#12-13. Kobol's Last Gleaming.
For a complete listing, check out
http://www.galactica.tv/archives/episodes.shtml
KR

[shiningstar]

Thanks for posting the link KoenigRules! :)

[BST]

Thanks for the link, KR.

btw, Ep#9 sounds a little "kinky", eh? ;)

http://www.galactica.tv/archives/109.shtml

[Sept17th]

Flesh and Bone

Tigh me up, Tigh me down

hmmm, sounds hot perhaps a new drinking game when Six performs H. Jobs take a drink.

KR, you know this Purist well enough now. What is my take on The Hand of God?

[Darth Marley]

"Tigh me up, Tigh me down" ???

[Sept17th]

"Tigh me up, Tigh me down" ???

After a heated argument with punches thrown Tigh and Starbuck lock lips. Then proceed to ravage each other where we later find out about Tigh’s copper wire fetish.

:LOL:

[BST]

After a heated argument with punches thrown Tigh and Starbuck lock lips. Then proceed to ravage each other where we later find out about Tigh’s copper wire fetish.

:LOL:


:LOL:

That's about what I figured! ;) :D

[shiningstar]

After a heated argument with punches thrown Tigh and Starbuck lock lips. Then proceed to ravage each other where we later find out about Tigh’s copper wire fetish.

:LOL:

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[cranky1c]

One inferrence/speculation one could generate by the titles of the last two titles would be that some clue to the existance of earth will be found. Imagine the look on Adama's face if he see's that.....

Isn't the hand of god the episode where Apollo's GF dies in TOS?

[shiningstar]

cranky it's War of the Gods not Hand of the Gods in which Iblis appears and
tries to kill Sheba only to have Apollo 'take the shot' instead of her.

[Gemini1999]

Isn't the hand of god the episode where Apollo's GF dies in TOS?

Cranky1C -

You've got it a bit out of whack.... "Hand of God" was the final episode of the first season - in that episode, the Galactica discovers a Cylon Basestar following them, but they notice it before the Basestar notices the Galactica. Adama decides it's time to stop running and take the Basestar head on and destroy it. There is also a neat plot bit about Apollo picking up a transmission that looks like the video feed from one of the moon landings from our time.

The episode where Apollo's wife (not girlfriend), Serina was killed was "Lost Planet of the Gods" it was the 2-part episode that immediately followed the premiere - "Saga of a Star World".

As for the 2 TNS episode titles that mirror those from TOS - I hope that they just used the titles, but not the stories. I would rather TNS follow it's own creative path, rather than continually borrow from TOS to lure in reluctant viewers.

If TNS is supposed to be a "reinvention of the genre", then it should build on it's own creativity and drive, not someone else's any more than it already has.

Best,
Bryan

[shiningstar]

Hand of the Gods is where by use of the navigation dome they get their first
albeit garbled communication with Earth. I just saw your post Bst. Thanks
for the info on the hand of the Gods ep. :thumbsup: :salute: :warrior: :colonial:

[koenigrules]

I have a feeling The Hand of God is in reference to the Cylon version of God perhaps?
I do not think it has anything to do with TOS episode, but of course I could be wrong.
It would not be the first time!
KR

[shiningstar]

I have a feeling The Hand of God is in reference to the Cylon version of God perhaps?
I do not think it has anything to do with TOS episode, but of course I could be wrong.
It would not be the first time!
KR

I was wandering about that title for that particular episode myself. Maybe the
more KNOWLEGDEABLE among us can say WHY that title for that ep?

[cranky1c]

Hand of God, War of the Gods.... I was six when last I saw these. Some credit for 27 years of memory decay? :LOL: ;)

KR's idea about the cylon religion would be more interesting. Hope it's an inside slip rather than speculation.

[Darth Marley]

If TNS is supposed to be a "reinvention of the genre", then it should build on it's own creativity and drive, not someone else's any more than it already has.

It is a no win situation for RDM.
First, he does a remake that many thought bore little resemblance to the original.
Next, he is criticised for perhaps taking too much from the original series.

[julix]

It is a no win situation for RDM.
First, he does a remake that many thought bore little resemblance to the original.
Next, he is criticised for perhaps taking too much from the original series.




I agree with you to some extent Darth...perhaps if he had handeled the whole situation better it may be different ....then again maybe not.

[PlaidSquadron]

It is a no win situation for RDM.
First, he does a remake that many thought bore little resemblance to the original.
Next, he is criticised for perhaps taking too much from the original series.

I think its too early to say he has or hasn't lifted anything (aside from titles) from the original.

That said - they did make a dramatic departure from the TOS. Why go back to the old storylines? Break fresh ground!

[BST]

It is a no win situation for RDM.
First, he does a remake that many thought bore little resemblance to the original.
Next, he is criticised for perhaps taking too much from the original series.

It didn't have to be this way, Darth. Just "lucky" I guess, eh?

;)

[Gemini1999]

It is a no win situation for RDM.
First, he does a remake that many thought bore little resemblance to the original.
Next, he is criticised for perhaps taking too much from the original series.

Darth -

The thing is - why should he be worried about "winning anyone over" that wasn't already won over when the mini aired? The fact that it bore only a slight resemblance to TOS didn't seem to bother the people that liked it and clamored for a series.

Now, either he was right in making a serious departure and it's working for the show, or the concept isn't working as well as expected and is now resorting to harvesting more "tried and true" elements to make the show more viable to insure it's survivability and to gain a larger audience.

The reason that I brought up the comment about the "reinventing the genre" was the fact that Ron Moore said that's what he was going to do with the mini. I just re-watched the mini last night and the only thing that I saw that impressed me was the VFX done by Zoic. The storytelling style wasn't revolutionary - the camera techniques weren't revolutionary and neither were the characters.

The mini wasn't all that bad, but in my mind, it was only "good", not "revolutionary". Maybe TNS will be an improvement as they now are aware of what people thought of it - what concepts worked and what didn't. I hope that the series turns out to be good - I'd rather see improvement than 13 episodes of the same level of storytelling in the mini.

Trek fans have been criticizing the franchise all the way through Voyager and Enterprise about the shows being a wasted oppertunity when it comes to breaking new ground. I would like to see Ron Moore follow the "road untaken" and break some new ground (as someone else said further upthread). It is something that he said he set out to do from the beginning. He's the one that made that statment and he's the only one that can either live up to it, or not.

I would rather see him live up to it, instead of falling back on someone else's show to support his own.

We'll see what's what very soon....

Best to all (even Marley),
Bryan

[julix]

Good points Bryan....

[shiningstar]

Darth -

The thing is - why should he be worried about "winning anyone over" that wasn't already won over when the mini aired? The fact that it bore only a slight resemblance to TOS didn't seem to bother the people that liked it and clamored for a series.

Now, either he was right in making a serious departure and it's working for the show, or the concept isn't working as well as expected and is now resorting to harvesting more "tried and true" elements to make the show more viable to insure it's survivability and to gain a larger audience.

The reason that I brought up the comment about the "reinventing the genre" was the fact that Ron Moore said that's what he was going to do with the mini. I just re-watched the mini last night and the only thing that I saw that impressed me was the VFX done by Zoic. The storytelling style wasn't revolutionary - the camera techniques weren't revolutionary and neither were the characters.

The mini wasn't all that bad, but in my mind, it was only "good", not "revolutionary". Maybe TNS will be an improvement as they now are aware of what people thought of it - what concepts worked and what didn't. I hope that the series turns out to be good - I'd rather see improvement than 13 episodes of the same level of storytelling in the mini.

Trek fans have been criticizing the franchise all the way through Voyager and Enterprise about the shows being a wasted oppertunity when it comes to breaking new ground. I would like to see Ron Moore follow the "road untaken" and break some new ground (as someone else said further upthread). It is something that he said he set out to do from the beginning. He's the one that made that statment and he's the only one that can either live up to it, or not.

I would rather see him live up to it, instead of falling back on someone else's show to support his own.

We'll see what's what very soon....

Best to all (even Marley),
Bryan

Thanks for your input Bryan ;)

[justjackrandom]

Once the series was greenlighted, RDM said (in one of the many interviews he has given) he thought several of TOS episodes would be worth revisiting in the story line, although he doubted they would do it in the first short season. The eps I remember being mentioned were LL and WOTG. I don't remember HOG being mentioned, but it would be a good one to do.

JJR

[shiningstar]

Once the series was greenlighted, RDM said (in one of the many interviews he has given) he thought several of TOS episodes would be worth revisiting in the story line, although he doubted they would do it in the first short season. The eps I remember being mentioned were LL and WOTG. I don't remember HOG being mentioned, but it would be a good one to do.

JJR

Well since The RDM Commander Adama doesn't actually have a clue as to
where he is going I don't think that HOG would be a good one for them to do.

[Antelope]

Just some idle speculation:

Season finale: Two part episode based on the Pegasus episodes from TOS. Kobol's Last Gleaming refers to the name of Commander Caine's ship (or the name of the Caine figure himself) in the new series. Title is based on the Battle of Fort McHenry in the War of 1812 giving us the star spangled banner national anthem.

Bastille Day: Prisoner uprising with Richard Hatch.

Litmus/Six Degrees of Separartion/Flesh and Bone: Story arc that will resolve the "Boomer" issue. She will die saving the Galactica on the Flesh and Bone episode or turn 100% to the human cause if they plan to keep her character around for season 2.

The Hand of God: Title created to create a buzz (already working). The god of the cylons will be revealed. I also think this will be the episode Boxey is revealed to be a cylon.

[Antelope]

Kobol's Last Gleaming may refer to the destruction of the homeworld of Kobol in the final two episodes but I still bet it will be part of a Living Legend type storyline.

I bet the weakest story will be Bastille Day. I think it is more designed as a stunt to bring in TOS fans to see Richard Hatch than it is a part of the story arc. It will be a stand alone like Magnificent Warriors or Long Patrol. It may be good in its own right but it will probably be one of the ones you can miss but still be up to speed on the series.

[Charybdis]

OK, the original series had some pretty lame titles for their episodes (The Magnificent Warriors, The Young Lords), but these titles for episodes of the new Galactica are totally playing on sex and innuendo. I don't like that..

[justjackrandom]

"Kobol’s Last Gleaming" reminds me of the movie “Twilight’s Last Gleaming” (1977 - Burt Lancaster, Richard Widmark). Probably no correlation, but it would be interesting if there was. ;)

JJR

[Dawg]

Well, if it was a second-rate WWII flick, it just might be related...............................

:blink: ;)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[Gemini1999]

"Kobol’s Last Gleaming" reminds me of the movie “Twilight’s Last Gleaming” (1977 - Burt Lancaster, Richard Widmark). Probably no correlation, but it would be interesting if there was. ;)

JJR

JJR (I love your name!) -

In a discussion at the SciFi BSG forum, some were speculating that the 2-part episode - "Kobol's Last Gleaming" could possibly be a remake of "Lost Planet of the Gods"... If you think about the original story, if not for Jane Seymour not wanting to stay on with the series, LPOTG could have taken place anytime during the 24 episode run of TOS. It wouldn't even be out of place at the END of the first season. I wonder how much merit that there actually is to that thought....

Best,
Bryan

[justjackrandom]

Thanks!

That would be very cool if it was their take on LPG.

-JJR

Come back heow, you wascaly daggit!!! :viper2: :muffit:

[Eric Paddon]

Well, if it was a second-rate WWII flick, it just might be related...............................:blink: ;)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:


Actually, it was a third-rate movie about a mad general threatening to start WWIII unless the government admitted to war crimes about Vietnam.