BG-02: Lost Planet Of The Gods

[Flamingo Girl]

Apollo and Starbuck discover a magnetic void ahead of the fleet. Jolly and Boomer bring back a viral plague from their scouting mission to a Cylon asteroid which infects all of the Viper squadron pilots--and cripples their military capabilities. As Baltar and the Cylons threaten the fleet as the Colonials scramble to train new pilots to defend the fleet, while Dr. Salik searches desperately for a cure to the mysterious illness. The Galactica and her fleet are led by a lone star in the magnetic void to a dead planet which may contain the key to the Colonials' salvation. Starbuck is captured by the Cylons. Apollo and Serina "seal" as a lone star appears within the void. Adama believes the planet is Kobol, the world "where life began." The Colonials survey the dead world. Baltar appears to bargain with the Colonials; Adama finds proof of the exodus with insights into the Thirteenth Tribe's wherabouts. The Cylons betray Baltar's plans and attack the fleet and Kobol; the new pilots face destruction as they are outnumbered. The ill pilots recover, thanks to Dr. Salik's medical work, and bolster the Colonial defenses. Starbuck is returned, but Serina is killed.


Series stars; Richard Hatch as Apollo, Dirk Benedict as Starbuck, Herb Jefferson Jr. as Boomer, Lorne Greene as Adama, Terry Carter as Colonel Tigh, Maren Jensen as Athena, Tony Swartz as Jolly, Laurette Spang as Cassiopia, Noah Hathaway as Boxey, Sarah Rush as Rigel, David Greenan as Omega, and John Colicos as Baltar.



(Thanks to Michael Faries Battlestar Galactica.com (http://www.battlestargalactica.com/about/index.html ))

[shiningstar]

I almost forgot about this episode .......it's been so long
since it's aired. But it was a great one.

[Belloby]

This episode has special meaning for me because it was the first time that girls were seen as warriors.( I know in the piolet that Athena was a warrior, but we actually never saw her in combat.)

Seeing the women shuttle piolets really made me feel good...almost special. I was a young, shy 13-year-old at the time who did little but read and study. By watching those young women do something cool and important, gave me the courage to strike out and do something on my own.

To this day, I still pop in that episode when I'm feeling down.

Thanks, BSG.

[Muffit]

I just watched this again tonight. Wow, what a moving episode. There is /so much/ going on. Apollo's wedding, Baltar's trickery, sickness among the pilots, female cadets trying to cope, the magnetic void, and something very, very interesting. (see below).

I just got my Indy DVD set too. I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark just before Lost Planet of the Gods. Let people say BSG copies from others. Even more shows copy from BSG. You've gotta get a chill watching the laser-like beam of light in the tomb bounce off the gems, and realize Indy's map room scene is almost identical! Thing is, it's not so unique -- the Egyptians incredibly built temples like Abu Simbel for just that purpose -- one day of the year the sun would pierce an aperture and light up something important way at the back of the temple/tomb. But BSG did it 3 years before Indy. Pretty cool!

Richard's mourning is a piece of incredible acting! Most series actors take 6 or seven eps to really fall into their character. Richard did it right off the mark. (Dirk too). The only other sci fi series actor I ever saw nail his part right off the bat was Bill Shatner in Star Trek TOS. Day 1 line 1 he /was/ the quintessential Kirk (to borrow a Klingon phrase). :)

The devastating damage to the wall frieze about the 13th tribe just as they found it was a great piece of writing. It actually sparked the same feeling of bitter dissapointment and irony in me. So close! My personal opinion is the BSG writers did an awesome job in the limited time allotted. Weaving all those plots together with an ongoing mysterious mythos took more talent than I think most folks give them credit for.

Great ep!!!
:muffit:

[Charybdis]

You know, watching the scenes of Serina's sickness on the DVD set made me really wish that they had left her scenes in the original movie. They were really something and very emotional. I thought that her regular death in Lost Planet was a tear-jerker (I still can't watch that episode without getting a bit teary-eyed) but if they had left her dying scenes in, that would have really put it over the top.

And I agree, Richard was a heck of an actor. I think I like him best when he disagrees with somethign and gets emotional. he shines when he acts. That deleted scene from the pilot when he confronts Adama is great!

[shiningstar]

I agree Charybdis. I haven't gotten my dvd's yet but I'm
really looking forward to seeing the scenes I keep hearing so
much about.

[Muffit]

Poor Shiningstar! Hope you get yours soon! You know what I'm watching tonight!!! :)
:muffit:

[LucianG]

Has anyone noticed that when Starbuck enters the void to find Apollo, stars are visible during portions of their 180 degree turn and part of their return flight? The darkness combined with the magnetic anomoly caused Apollo to get lost, and when Starbuck turns them around, he said he was following the tip of his nose. If the darkness and void was only ahead and behind, it would have been simple for Apollo to fly laterally out of the void, and then make his way back to the Galactica, or he could have used some of those stars to get a bearing to fly back out in approximately the direction from which he'd come. Of course, depending on how far he'd traveled, that might have been tough, but it sure didn't seem all that long, especially when Starbuck was counting on the return trip.

Actually, I believe this may have been due to lack of money to rework the background and refilm so they probably reused other footage as they did in so many other scenes. It's possible it was just overlooked by the production team, or maybe they didn't know there would eventually be really picky BG fans watching their DVDs....

[Domiano]

@LucianG The effects suffered due to lack of a budget. I saw several scenes that I could nitpick to death.

Anyone remember Colonel Tigh and Adama talking in Adama's Quarters? There is a little window behind Tigh and you can clearly see stars in the background when Tigh and Adama are talking. I thought a void meant total darkness too. They could have atleast put a black cloth over the window if they could not have changed the background set. Serina's death was a shock and I cried. Even today it touches me. Anyways, this being one of the longer episodes it was well done.

[Muffit]

Welcome to Colonial FLeets, Domiano! :)
:muffit:

[Domiano]

Thank you Muffit. I feel like I have a new home. I am so glad to see so many people still love BSG.

[shiningstar]

Welcome to the family Domiano

[ViperTech]

This was actually the first BG episode I ever saw. I missed the Movie orginailly. My friends were ranting and raving about this new show on TV, so I decided to watch the next week.

The first half of this episode is awesome.
I love Jane Seymour. She's so beautiful and her scenes with Hatch are great in this episode. Great banter!
The women warrior's are great and I love the scene when Rigel exclaims "Blue Squadron has launched!" followed by huge cheers on the bridge after the women-piloted Vipers launch. The action is fantastic and Adama's confrontation with Baltar is dramatic.

Starbuck's using the Centurion for a light of his Cigar while on Baltar's Basestar is hilarious.

I hate watching Serina die, so I don't like to watch this one over and over like some of others. Every time Boxey loses it in that final scene, I lose it, too. I was about Noah's age when the show was first run. Tough ending.

[shiningstar]

I know that scene was a real tear jerker. Very well
acted.

[originalsinner]

And this is why BSG is like family to me

[shiningstar]

Me too original sinner me too

[WARDAGGIT73]

***

It has it's strong moments and weaker moments...

[shiningstar]

I really liked this episode ...............:thumbsup:

[launchcruiser7]

in saga the cylon says that over 200 warriors are on carilon way then to peaple think there is only 75 vipers on battlestar you could fit 100 vipersw on alphav bay alone with the pegasus airwing on bourd there are 400 vipers in fleet in hand of god tigh says they have 150 vipers the rest?? cadets and lower class fighters assiened to fleet defense in experiment adama says they are leaving 2 sqrds to defend the fleet 150 planes 2 per shudle bay per ship in fleet esnien class or lower pilots long live battlestar hawkeye out :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :popcorn: :girl: :confused: :salute: :warrior:

[Antelope]

I don't know if they ever defined the word "warrior" in TOS. At a minimum I believe the word warrior implied not just viper pilots but other officers (Adama, Tigh, Omega, and Athena on the bridge are good examples). In addition it may be a generic military term like our use of soldier, sailor, or marine that could mean that every military person on the Galactica is a "warrior". Since Tigh was handing out uniforms to non-viper pilots in Saga of A Star World anything the cylons said relative to the number of warriors on Carillon is probably meaningless in trying to figure out how many pilots the Galactica had. Personally I thought "warrior" meant either specifically officers (most likely) or was a generic term for all colonial military people.

[Bombadil]

in Saga the cylon says that over 200 warriors are on Carilon why then do people think there is only 75 Vipers on a battlestar? You could fit 100 vipers on alpha bay alone. With the Pegasus airwing on board there are 400 Vipers in the fleet. In Hand of God Tigh says they have 150 Vipers. Where are the rest??
:cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :girl: :confused: :salute: :warrior:

Others have pointed out that there were some technical details that were just sort of "thrown out there" that may not have been carefully thought through, and which probably weren't intended to be pushed on.

I think I recall that after the Cylon ambush was over, the Galactica recovered a total of only 67 Vipers. But we can assume that they have been able to build new ones. So how many Vipers can the Galactica hold at maximum? I keep hearing the number 150. 75 in each bay. But hold on a minute. Let's do just a rough and dirty calculation.

Assume that the Galactica is about a mile long (for a really detailed discussion of this, see the thread regarding the size of the Galactica). That makes the landing bays about 2000 feet long. That about twice the length of a modern navy aircraft carier. And there are two landing bays.

A Viper is about the size of a large fighter jet. A carrier holds between 80 and 100 jets. Therefore two landing bays, each twice the length of a carrier, should be able to hold between 320 and 400 Vipers. And that's without considering any increase in width or depth. So a stated capacity of 150 Vipers is just a wee bit on the small side.

:salute:

[Antelope]

The issue may have nothing to do with the run way space but with launcher and storage capacity. In addition no matter how many vipers the Galactica started with, assuming it had a full complement at the start of Saga of A Star World who knows how many actually have survived the various battles and returned to the Galactica. The same can be said for the Pegasus. Her entire fleet was destroyed at the Battle of Molachy so I highly doubt they have anywhere near a full complement either.

[Bombadil]

The issue may have nothing to do with the run way space but with launcher and storage capacity. In addition no matter how many vipers the Galactica started with, assuming it had a full complement at the start of Saga of A Star World who knows how many actually have survived the various battles and returned to the Galactica. The same can be said for the Pegasus. Her entire fleet was destroyed at the Battle of Molachy so I highly doubt they have anywhere near a full complement either.

Good observation. But I think we can assume that they are building new Vipers, even though I don't think that has ever been specifically stated. And you're right, hangar deck space is more critical than runway space. But I still think that the landing bays are large enough to service 400 or more Vipers. The writers just never stopped to work it out carefully.

By the way, the same consideration holds true for number of crew (and passengers). If the Galactica is roughly five times the length of a Nimitz class carrier, five time the average width (I think it's more, but let's use five), and five times the height, then it ought to be able to accommodate 125 times the human complement. A Nimitz carrier has about 5000 souls on board. So the Galactica ought to be able to comfortably accommodate 625,000 people. Even if you trim that a lot, you can still fit the entire population of survivors (50,000 according to the mini) on board the Galactica alone, with lots of leftover space for making echos.

I think somebody just thought that 50,000 was a lot of people, and didn't really do the math.

:salute:

[skippercollecto]

Thanks to the DVD, which shows some deleted scenes and also allows me easily pause and replay, I have begun to match up the names with the faces off the female warriors listed in the closing credits. If you go to the deleted scenes segment of "Lost Planet of the Gods," there is a different wedding scene from what was actually shown in the episode. Serina walks down the steps of the council chambers, past all her bridesmaids.
Starting at the top left, and going clockwise down the steps, you see:
1. A black woman with short black curly hair--Gay Thomas, the third girl warrior in the first half.
2. A woman with long medium brown hair, whom I haven't identified yet.
3. Leann Hunley, with her long blonde hair, is easily recognizable. She's listed as the first girl warrior in the closing credits and is named Carrie in the novelization "The Tombs of Kobol," and several other Galactica novels.
4. Sheila DeWindt/Lt. Dietra
5. Sarah Rush/Rigel
6. Janet Louise Johnson/Sgt. Brie
7. Laurette Spang/Cassiopeia
8. Maren Jensen/Athena
9. A woman with long straight almost-black hair. This is Jennifer Joseph, and in one of the deleted scenes she is referred to as Gemi/Jamie.
10. A woman with long ash-brown hair.
11. A woman with a brown pageboy.
There are two woman listed in the closing credits that I have yet to figure out what she looks like. One of them is Janet Lynn Curtis. In the closing credits of both the first and second episodes, she's listed as Sorell; however, no one ever addresses anyone by that name in any scene, and there is no character by that name in the novelization. I looked up Curtis on imdb.com, and learned she had a regular role as Margaret Ellen in another Glen Larson series, "The Misadventures of Sheriff Lobo." So perhaps if any of you remember this character (or will admit to having watched Lobo!), you could tell us what she looked like, and hence, which character she was on Galactica.
In the second episode, there is a different "third girl warrior" listed. Her name is Millicent Crisp. I don't have any information on her at all.

Can any of you help?

Mary

[skippercollecto]

The whole story of the medical shuttle going back to the asteroid to look for virus samples is ignored in the episode. I can't help but wonder if there originally had been a storyline planned regarding the shuttle, Apollo and Starbuck, and the new women warriors once they landed on the asteroid, but was discarded because it would have made the episode too long. I've always assumed that Dr. Salik, Cassiopeia and some of the other medical staff and maybe a scientist (Dr. Wilker?) were on that shuttle.
Of course, this is an idea for fan fiction for any of you!

Mary

[Eric Paddon]

The one drawback of the deleted scenes supplement on the DVD for this episode is that it leaves out a scene that was included the syndicated "telemovie" version of the episode. In this scene on Kobol as Adama, Apollo and Serina go through the ruins, Adama talks about how Kobol died through their contamination of the planet's resources, and he also mentions that those who settled the Colonies destroyed their technology as a sign of repentance. To my knowledge this is the only "telemovie" scene from the two part episodes not included in any of the supplements.

[Senmut]

Bummer. If it was shot, it should be included.

[Eric Paddon]

It's the only blemish as far as the deleted scenes supplements go in the DVD set. Fortunately those who have the telemovie can see it edited back into the episode itself, and it really works well there.

[Senmut]

I have often wondered about the void that Kobol's solar system is in. It cannot always have been there. Did it have something to do with Kobol dying, and the damping of its sun?

[CmdrCain]

In this scene on Kobol as Adama, Apollo and Serina go through the ruins, Adama talks about how Kobol died through their contamination of the planet's resources, and he also mentions that those who settled the Colonies destroyed their technology as a sign of repentance. To my knowledge this is the only "telemovie" scene from the two part episodes not included in any of the supplements.

That's interesting. I don't think I'd ever come across that bit of dialogue before.

One thing I wondered about while viewing this episode was why it was that Kobol didn't seem to have any modern cities. I suppose that such cities could have been destroyed in some cataclysm, leaving only the more ancient dwellings; although it still seems odd that Adama would believe that the answer to the location of the 13th tribe would be found in an ancient pyramid. It would seem more logical to look for that information in the ruins of an old spaceport or a command-and-control facility.

Then again...

If I remember correctly, the 12 worlds were colonized first, and the the 13th tribe didn't migrate until much later. It could be that Kobol had repented its technology, dismantled most of it, and returned to its more primitive ways by the time the 13th tribe set off. Maybe the 13th tribe was composed of the last technological hold-outs who were finally forced to flee.

I may be forgetting some canon here, but it's fun to speculate. :)

[Captain Morgan]

I just watched the 1st episode today and thought it was great!I liked it way more than the pilot the beginning of the show is just like CHiPS!

[Captain Morgan]

I watched part 2 today after work kind of a let down from the great part 1.
also this is the first time I watched the extras on the DVD,I'm not sure
what I think of this stuff,I mean it's nice to have but I would like more info
about the making of the series.This is all new to me I haven't watched this
show since I was a kid,and I,m really enjoying it! :warrior:

[kingfish]

Tombs of Kobol.

I just started rereading this one. I owned a copy of it many yahrens ago but gave it away. I bought the reprint last year. As an adult I can really appreciate this magnificent work. The prologue tells of how Baltar's life was spared and also why he couldn't stand Adama. They were both cadets at the academy and of all things Baltar was jealous of Adama's singing ability. Also Adama was quite the ladies man. This made Baltar choose a career in politics which he was also bad at.



The book is fantastic. Lucifer has actually achieved conciousness and strives for more than a third brain. Lucifer also has a soul which he created himself. Lucifer also believes that the Cylon race is flawed. They can't beat the Colonials because they use archaic battle plans. Another interesting fact is that Jolly and Boomer were wearing both breathing gear and gloves when they landed on the asteroid. The terrain was so harsh that they had to remove their gloves and were greeted with a gooey/watery substance on the rocks they had to crawl and climb over to go undetected. The things that we fail to appreciate as children.

[Eric Paddon]

I never found the episode novelizations satisfying, in part because they went afield from the way things were done in the broadcasts. While I understand the thinking behind keeping the Cylons living beings as they were originally conceived, this meant losing some important things later on, particularly with regard to Iblis's voice as Imperious Leader, which is dispensed with completely in the "War Of The Gods" novelization (and more incredibly, the Ship Of Lights returns Baltar to his baseship at the end of the book but then without explanation he's a prisoner again when adapting "Baltar's Escape"). It also didn't help that "Hand Of God" was never adapted since that is the strongest episode of the series overall.

One reason why I went back and did my own fanfic adaptations of all the original series episodes (I have now done 12 of the 17 stories, not in sequence) was because I felt the stories could use expanding/adjusting/foreshadowing but to do it without harming the integrity of what was broadcast so that reading them would be like experiencing an expanded version of the actual episodes. The novelizations, much like Hatch's novels, too often offer the same characters not speaking in familiar voices to me.

That said, "Tombs Of Kobol" is one of the better ones in the series beacuse Robert Thurston was the best of the writers hired for these. He had to come up with a pretty good way of getting Baltar alive again since his novelization of "Saga" has a scene of a centurion telling Imperious Leader that Baltar had been beheaded and the body disposed of.

[Senmut]

Which just goes to show that, surprise!!! Cylons can lie!

[BRG]

4 out of 5 for this episode, I enjoyed it as much as the opening 3 parter.

The link between the Colonies and Earth through some ancient civilisation was always one of my favourite parts of Galactica. I loved the whole sequence where Adama, Apollo & Serina are searching the ancient ruins for clues on the 13th Tribe.(although the the 'on location' shots from Egypt are clearly of some dude in Adama's outfit with a overly white hairpiece! :LOL: ) A lot of the stuff from this episode in repeated in the Indiana Jones films & Tomb Raider computer games, and Adama's medallion acting a a key is also similar to the 'puzzle box' from The Mummy, and the hexagonal disc from Smallville. Also, the way Adama & Baltar behave in the tomb is well done. Both hold the sacred medallion, but while Adama knows what it can be used for, and knows the responeabillity taht goes with entering the Tomb, Baltar just considers the medallion as a symbol of power, and his action lead to his apparent doom when he sets of the booby-trap.

The first part of the episode was great, with the pilots falling ill, and the shuttle pilots having to step up to combat pilots. Although I thoght it was maybe a wee bit out of date and sexist in 2004. That all the new fighter pilots are hot women, who are all standing around in skin tight 'pressure suits' while Apollo & Starbuck run them through the basics. :drool: It reminded me of the crap old sit com 'On The Buses' when it proved women coud do the job as well as men. But as I said, in 2004 we have women fighter pilots in all major airforces, so it looks aou of date.

Why was the medical subplot dropped for part 2? I assume for time, but still it should have been concluded. And the main down point was that the space battle in the void suddenly became a starfield! :eek:

Serina's death was a shock. :( But it gave us some great acting, espicially from Richard Hatch. A very sad & moving scene.
BRG

ps- George Murdock, who played Dr Salik, had a fine guest apperance as a Freak of the Week in an episode of Smallville. It was season 1 episode "Hourglass", and is one of the best episodes of the show(IMO). Any Superman fans may want to check in out. :thumbsup:

[BST]

Finally got a chance to sit down and watch an episode from the DVD set and chose this one. This has always been one of my favorite episodes. I love the setting on Kobol and the pyramid link between the Colonies and Earth. I truly enjoyed Apollo's and Serina's sealing ceremony - the candlelit service was a nice touch as was the reference to Boxey as the "protector of Serina".

I absolutely loved Adama's reaction when Baltar entered the burial chamber. It was beautiful!!

;)

Speaking of Adama, it was interesting to see him as a simple explorer, inspecting the various writings, etc within the ruins. What I found a bit disturbing, though, was how seemingly easy it was for Adama to tell Baltar exactly what his plan was regarding the journey (hopefully to Earth). That part didn't make sense to me, no matter how well Baltar "pitched" his story about being a victim and about conquering the Cylon homeworld.


With regards to the present day "discussion" about female Viper pilots and women's "capabilities", given the real-life conditions in the '70's, it could be said that Galactica was actually "forward-thinking" with the idea of having female pilots engaged in combat situations.



Ah well, it was a joy to watch it again!

BST

[Eric Paddon]

"What I found a bit disturbing, though, was how seemingly easy it was for Adama to tell Baltar exactly what his plan was regarding the journey (hopefully to Earth). That part didn't make sense to me"

It does in this context. Adama at this point regards Baltar as his prisoner, and he isn't thinking of a possibility of Baltar ending up free again to use that kind of information. Also, Adama up to the very moment of Baltar's appearance in the tomb hasn't been aware that Baltar is still alive, let alone in command of a baseship, so it can also be said that he hasn't had time to digest that variable as well.

[BST]

"What I found a bit disturbing, though, was how seemingly easy it was for Adama to tell Baltar exactly what his plan was regarding the journey (hopefully to Earth). That part didn't make sense to me"

It does in this context. Adama at this point regards Baltar as his prisoner, and he isn't thinking of a possibility of Baltar ending up free again to use that kind of information. Also, Adama up to the very moment of Baltar's appearance in the tomb hasn't been aware that Baltar is still alive, let alone in command of a baseship, so it can also be said that he hasn't had time to digest that variable as well.


Well, now, I didn't think of that. :eek:

[Eric Paddon]

The other point that bears this out is when later he says with annoyance to Apollo, "I thought I ordered you to remove him to the Galactica."

[kingfish]

Sadly the only two telemovies available in the USA are Conquest of Earth and Mission Galactica. I wish they would put all of the telemovies out on dvd.


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[SpyOne]

...although it still seems odd that Adama would believe that the answer to the location of the 13th tribe would be found in an ancient pyramid. It would seem more logical to look for that information in the ruins of an old spaceport or a command-and-control facility.
I imagine you've learned this elsewhere by now, but just in case (and for newcomers to this thread), I thought I'd answer that for you:

I believe Adama says that the tomb in question is that of the "Ninth Lord of Kobol", and that he was the last ruler of Kobol.
Thus, that tomb is the most modern building on the planet, as it is probably the last thing that was built before folks left.

As for why it all looked so ruin-y, remember that the Colonies have been at war for 1000 years with the Cylons, and their exodus from Kobol was considerably before that. Imagine what Earth would look like if we all moved out for over a dozen centuries.
:)

[martok2112]

An excellent episode, with a tear jerker of an ending. And no I am not being facetious, because I tell you truthfully, I CRIED at the end of it.

Beautiful acting between Richard Hatch, Jane Seymour, and Noah Hathaway.

A gem of an episode.

Respectfully,
Martok2112

[Haveke]

An excellent episode, with a tear jerker of an ending. And no I am not being facetious, because I tell you truthfully, I CRIED at the end of it.

Beautiful acting between Richard Hatch, Jane Seymour, and Noah Hathaway.

A gem of an episode.

Respectfully,
Martok2112

Hey, I Spent Over a Decade Trying to Find That Episode Of Battlestar Galactia... Last Year, I Was Able to Aquire it On e-Bay for a VERY Reasonible Price if I Might Say So. :) :salute:

And Yes, I Still Shed Tears Myself at the Great Loss Apollo is Faced With. Losing the Great Love Of His Life: Serina...


Those Two Episodes Where What Set Battlestar Galactia Apart from the Other Scfi Shows During that time... If ONLY The Big Wigs Over at ABC Would've Kept them in their Orginal Time slot, Perhaps We Would've Seen a Much Different Ending ... Maybe even Had Some Sort of Closure on the Series...

Now, Here Something I Have always thought: Baltar's Legs Were Basically Crushed When the Tomb Started to Collapse... After the Colonial Warriors Drove Back the Cylons & the Fleet Made Good their Escape... I Figure the Cylons Found Baltar & Had to "Repair" Him... Anyone Besides Me Ever Notice How Baltar Always Seemed to Wear Those Green Leather Gloves All the Time...(Personally, If I Were Adama... I Would've Shot Baltar) and When He Would Leave His Throne... he Walked More Like a Cylon Centorian. :rolleyes:

I'm Trying to See About Picking Up the Battlestar Galactia Series On DVD... After I Finish Up With All my Posts & Replies, Got to Double Check My Bills, and then See Where I Can Go From There... ;)

:warrior: :warrior: :colonial: :thumbsup:

[Haveke]

Sadly the only two telemovies available in the USA are Conquest of Earth and Mission Galactica. I wish they would put all of the telemovies out on dvd.


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I was Wondering If There is a Way to Upload an Image to the Forums, But the Image is on My Computer, Not on a Website... I've Collected So MANY Great Battelstar Galactia Images Over these Past Years, I've LOST Track of Where Most of 'em Came From.

If Anyone Can Please Assist Me With This Procedure, Then I'll Try & Put Together a Little Galactia Humor "Haveke" Style...

As far as Telemovies Go, I guess You Could Kinda Call The Lost Planet Of The Gods Pt. I & II a Movie... :/:

My Best Advice Would Be To Just Keep Questing for the Brass Ring... Thats Kinda What I Had to do to Finally Locate My Copy Of The Lost Planet Of The Gods. :salute:

:warrior: :warrior: :colonial:

Always Stay With Your Wingman...

[martok2112]

With my new computer, I intend on burning Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack, and Conquest of the Earth to DVD. :)

Respectfully,
Martok2112 :salute: :Nsalute:

[SpyOne]

Sadly, step 1 would be to find someone to host it on the internet. For instace, my connection comes with 5mb of web page space. (I'm using mine, or i'd offer to help you store images.)
There are a bunch of free website places out there, but most of them prohibit linking directly to images (which is what you'd have to do to put it in a post).

Once you have the space to put them in, I can be helpful in the "just how do I move files from my computer to that website" part.

[skippercollecto]

It occurred to me this morning that the Colonials are not as "camera-obsessed" as we Earthlings are. Our technology regarding photographing and taping is far ahead of the Colonials, and must have been that way even 25 yahrens ago.
If it had been us on Kobol, at least several people would have had a video camera, or just a plain old film camera, and would have taken it with us when we went into the pyramids. It occurred to me that one of the Warriors, particularly Adama, who was so into history, should have taken some kind of recording machine with him so that he could study it later. And he'd have had time to get one or two shots of the directions to Earth before they were destroyed.
Mary

[Senmut]

Yes, but recall that alot of electronic devices did not work inside the void. It may be that small portable scanners would not function down on Kobol.

[AJMarks]

Well I just finished watching these two episodes again, and aside from the cute felmale warriors, Brie, Rigel, Athena, Serina, etc, I thought about the time that BSG was written, 1978. They were showing females in leading warrior positions and doing as well as a man (They just lacked full training). Even now our society is still trying to come to grips with females in the military and they wrote in the females piloting fighters and doing very well.

[Lara]

Well I just finished watching these two episodes again, and aside from the cute felmale warriors, Brie, Rigel, Athena, Serina, etc, I thought about the time that BSG was written, 1978. They were showing females in leading warrior positions and doing as well as a man (They just lacked full training). Even now our society is still trying to come to grips with females in the military and they wrote in the females piloting fighters and doing very well.

if you compare it to other network shows of the time it was light years ahead...I caught an ep of Quincy the other day and literally cringed when he told the female investigator from the CDC sent to track the origin of a food poisoning outbreak at a stadium that it was going to be a treat working with such a good looking girl and how did such a looker get a job with so much responsibility and she took it without so much as an eye roll...eehwww!!

(BTW the actress playing the investigator was the one who has subsequently played senior officers in Trek....she'd seen some changes!)

Cheers,
Lara

[AJMarks]

One thing that I find interesting is that I've heard over and over again by TNS fans that TOS started every episode with a 'clean slate' so to speak. That's not exactly true, you see several of the female fighters from this episode launching in the next couple of episodes. Also in the next episide Baltar walks with a limp from an injury that he receives in this episode.

[Eric Paddon]

Galactica was in fact the first regular sci-fi show to be mindful of what had happened previously since the first few episodes of "Lost In Space." The very idea of the continuing story arc in a sci-fi series started with TOS.

Another example is how one week after Apollo loses his wife in this episode, that fact is mentioned not once but *twice* in "The Lost Warrior." A giant step forward from the days of Star Trek when Kirk would "forget" all about his past week's romances without any Vulcan mind melds.

[BST]

if you compare it to other network shows of the time it was light years ahead...I caught an ep of Quincy the other day and literally cringed when he told the female investigator from the CDC sent to track the origin of a food poisoning outbreak at a stadium that it was going to be a treat working with such a good looking girl and how did such a looker get a job with so much responsibility and she took it without so much as an eye roll...eehwww!!

(BTW the actress playing the investigator was the one who has subsequently played senior officers in Trek....she'd seen some changes!)

Cheers,
Lara


Lara,

Was the episode entitled "Deadly Arena" and was the actress, Diana Muldaur?


If so, she played Dr. Miranda Jones in the ST:TOS episode, "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" and she also played Dr. Kate Pulaski on ST:TNG, replacing Gates McFadden (and Dr. Crusher), for a year.

BST

[BST]

Galactica was in fact the first regular sci-fi show to be mindful of what had happened previously since the first few episodes of "Lost In Space." The very idea of the continuing story arc in a sci-fi series started with TOS.

Another example is how one week after Apollo loses his wife in this episode, that fact is mentioned not once but *twice* in "The Lost Warrior." A giant step forward from the days of Star Trek when Kirk would "forget" all about his past week's romances without any Vulcan mind melds.


Something to also consider is that prior to the very late '70's, nearly all television shows were episodic in nature. About the only shows that followed a somewhat rigid 'continuity' were the daytime soaps. Now, with the advent of prime-time soaps such as "Dallas", "Dynasty", "Falcon Crest", etc, as well as the various mini-series, serialized storytelling began to take off. Based on the rather high ratings that these shows garnered, it may be safe to say that folks preferred storytelling with an ongoing/continuing storyline.

[Lara]

Lara,

Was the episode entitled "Deadly Arena" and was the actress, Diana Muldaur?


If so, she played Dr. Miranda Jones in the ST:TOS episode, "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" and she also played Dr. Kate Pulaski on ST:TNG, replacing Gates McFadden (and Dr. Crusher), for a year.

BST

yes, spot on..

I didn't remember her name and couldn't recall if she'd played an 'admiral' as well as a Doctor or two!! Just remembered the look and teh voice from Trek

But then I'm hopeless with names, and only get to see the Quincy eps when I'm home sick..

Thanks,
Cheers,
Lara

[bsg1fan1975]

I thought the high point of this episode was how Apollo comforted Boxey after Serina died. It showed that we can feel pain and love for the loss of a fellow human at the same time.

[Wildcard]

Galactica was in fact the first regular sci-fi show to be mindful of what had happened previously since the first few episodes of "Lost In Space." The very idea of the continuing story arc in a sci-fi series started with TOS.

Another example is how one week after Apollo loses his wife in this episode, that fact is mentioned not once but *twice* in "The Lost Warrior." A giant step forward from the days of Star Trek when Kirk would "forget" all about his past week's romances without any Vulcan mind melds.

paticularly when you consider how many 2 part episodes they did in the single season, it truly was the first sci-fi series that had something approaching a story arc, thus laying the groundwork for shows like B5.

[skippercollecto]

What is carbide? Is it carbon dioxide?
Years ago there was a company here on Earth called Union Carbide, but I don't know if it is even still in business.

[Kronus]

What is carbide? Is it carbon dioxide?
Years ago there was a company here on Earth called Union Carbide, but I don't know if it is even still in business.
From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbide
In chemistry, a carbide is a compound composed of carbon and a less electronegative element. Carbides can be generally classified by chemical bonding type as follows: salt-like, covalent compounds, interstitial compounds, and "intermediate" transition metal carbides. Examples include calcium carbide, silicon carbide, tungsten carbide (often called simply carbide), and cementite, each used in key industrial applications.

[Gundark]

Watched the DVD of parts 1 & 2 ( yet again) while studying the minutiae in the course of writing a fanfic. Because Gundy does her homework diligently, even at this old age.

Random musings:

Lucifer's gold boots bring to mind "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys". Which is a totally freaking groovy tune at 2am, in the dark, with a mellow buzz. I recommend Fleetwood Mac's "Hypnotized" in equal measure.

Adama was weaponed up on Kobol - nice to see Ben Cartwright wearing his sidearm.

You have to watch extremely closely, but I believe (and correct me if I'm wrong) Maren was wearing an ankle bracelet in the money shot of the female Viper pilots in the pressure suits.

Baltar: "I have been to the Cylon seat of power. It is in chaos". I love that line, but it also sounds like "a" Cylon seat of power versus "the". Cannot discern.

"Lieutenant, you obviously can't even stand". "The Viper is flown from the seated position, sir". Warriors - 'nuff said.

When I watched this on television at the tender age of 15, I was in love with Apollo & Serina being in love. Then Serina died and I bawled my eyes out. I still bawl my eyes out every time. Apollo's complete helplessness in having to let her go, literally shattered, then having to instantly man up to be strong for Boxey. Brutal, that. I'm bearing my soul on that one, folks.

This is in my top 5 favorite episodes.

[Eric Paddon]

When I watched this on television at the tender age of 15, I was in love with Apollo & Serina being in love. Then Serina died and I bawled my eyes out. I still bawl my eyes out every time. Apollo's complete helplessness in having to let her go, literally shattered, then having to instantly man up to be strong for Boxey. Brutal, that. I'm bearing my soul on that one, folks.



We're very fortunate Jane Seymour gave in and agreed to come back for one more episode. The way she was supposed to be killed off in Saga, where she would die from radiation sickness and we would see her at the end of the episode quietly leave the room to go off to die and leaving Boxey with Apollo would have been far less effective than having Apollo and Serina become married and providing a more definitive bond to each other that makes Apollo's subsequent raising of Boxey have a valid context.

[Gundark]

I've watched the deleted scenes where they filmed the part of Serina receiving the news about her illness from the Galactica's doctor. It did not resonate with me whatsoever and I'm glad they did not pursue that angle of her death. Being shot by a Cylon, when they were nearly making good their escape from Kobol makes far more of a statement than having her fade away from what I deduced to be pluton poisoning - yes ? It wasn't mentioned by name, but that was my assumption. Since Boxey wasn't "eating", he did not get sick.

Thoughts ?

[Eric Paddon]

I'm in complete agreement that the "Serina dying" subplot doesn't come off convincingly in terms of the footage that is available to us in the supplements. In fairness, this may not have been the only footage shot of that subplot. But overall, I don't think it was coming off as particularly well-executed.

The footage that does survive does at least show why John Fink as Dr. Paye had such prominent billing in the pilot yet in the final cut is only on-screen for about fifteen seconds! (when he treats Cassie's broken arm).