View Full Version : Dirk is NOT doing the RDM show.
CommanderTaggart
August 11th, 2004, 11:29 AM
Just got an email from him saying so. Thought folks would like to know.
The 14th Colony
August 11th, 2004, 11:32 AM
Any more details about why? Salary disagreemts, lack of time, or lack of interest in doing a BSG other than the original?
CommanderTaggart
August 11th, 2004, 11:35 AM
Like the avatar, 14th. No details... he just said he hasn't heard from the producers of the RDM show, and no messages from his agent. In his words, "It's a vicious rumor."
tracyb144
August 11th, 2004, 11:38 AM
The quote I received from him this morning states, and I quote:
"Heard rumor I'm in new BSG. FALSE. FALSE. I have heard NOTHING from
anyone connected to the show."
Unquote.
Doesn't get any plainer than that ;)
Moving along.
Tracy
The 14th Colony
August 11th, 2004, 11:39 AM
Ah, so he hasn't gotten a call back. I was wondering if--despite all rumors yay or nay--he actually wanted to do it, if it interested him. I wondered if he wasn't doing it because Sci-Fi wasn't interested, or he wasn't interested.
Yes, my avy is hot, huh? That Adriana is my future wife......in a fantasy alternate reality universe! LOL
jewels
August 11th, 2004, 12:49 PM
The quote I received from him this morning states, and I quote:
"Heard rumor I'm in new BSG. FALSE. FALSE. I have heard NOTHING from
anyone connected to the show."
Unquote.
Doesn't get any plainer than that ;)
Moving along.
TracyIt just doesn't get plainer than that. Thanks for the word Tracy and Bill.
Returns to regular business.
nccdee
August 11th, 2004, 01:00 PM
CommanderTaggard posted this at the Sci-Fi Forum:
"From an email I just received from Dirk:
Quote:
{Anyway...it's all a vicious rumor. I have HEARD NOTHING and have been in touch with this agent of mine and no messages waiting for me so there you have it from horse's mouth.}
And before anyone starts howling, this is legit. Expect a statment to be posted by Tracy at DirkBenedictCentral.com before the day is out."
Here is my response and opinion posted at Sci-Fi,
CommanderTaggart: Your post does not say whether or not he would do if offered. Rumors have been known to create reality. I would not be surprise if Moore's people will be looking at his response, which so far is not a flat out rejection of doing it.
nccdee
thomas7g
August 11th, 2004, 01:13 PM
I'm glad this settles the current little rumor battle.
Battling over rumor sucks.
:D
jewels
August 11th, 2004, 01:20 PM
nccdee:
There has to be an offer before you can consider it. The man's agent hasn't received a call. Dirk's not received a call. There is no offer, no role. And they are probably within their last month or so of shooting for their "13" season. Why would the man even worry about the potential of an offer considering his published take on the show premise was fairly astutely biting?
Gemini1999
August 11th, 2004, 01:22 PM
Here is my response and opinion posted at Sci-Fi,
CommanderTaggart: Your post does not say whether or not he would do if offered. Rumors have been known to create reality. I would not be surprise if Moore's people will be looking at his response, which so far is not a flat out rejection of doing it.
Nccdee -
I would politely suggest that if you are having disagreements with fellow CF members and their posts at other boards, such as the Skiffy board - the disagreements should stay at that respective board and should not carry over onto the Colonial Fleets board.
I'm not taking sides in this matter, but I would agree with Tom, Tracy and Taggart that there is sufficient evidence that the rumor concerning DB's possible appearance on TNS was just that - a rumor.
I would also like to second Tom's statement that since the rumor has been disproved - fighting about it is pointless and has no merit.
Thanks,
Bryan
amberstar
August 11th, 2004, 01:27 PM
Good to hear it Commander and Tracy ;)
amberstar
August 11th, 2004, 01:31 PM
Here is my response and opinion posted at Sci-Fi,
CommanderTaggart: Your post does not say whether or not he would do if offered. Rumors have been known to create reality. I would not be surprise if Moore's people will be looking at his response, which so far is not a flat out rejection of doing it.
nccdee
Nccdee During the tel a thon chat I remember Dirk saying that he would not do a cameo in the mini. I can't remember his exact words.....but that is the impression I got from him that night.
I asked him that same night during the chat if he would be a part of a continuation Movie....and he said YES to that.
Amber
martok2112
August 11th, 2004, 01:32 PM
(Doing my best Charlie Chan)
Confuscious say: "Gossip is joke with keen sense of rumor."
Ah, so.
Martok2112
:D <------------bows
bsg1fan1975
August 11th, 2004, 01:46 PM
wonderful news!
thomas7g
August 11th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Nccdee During the tel a thon chat I remember Dirk saying that he would not do a cameo in the mini. I can't remember his exact words.....but that is the impression I got from him that night.
I asked him that same night during the chat if he would be a part of a continuation Movie....and he said YES to that.
AmberNCCDee, I guess that answers that. :D
nccdee
August 11th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Is it the final answer? Didn't Richard Hatch say "no" over a year ago and now has he not only done one episode but a second one as well.
And Dirk Benedict has only say he has not heard about being offered anything. I also notice what he didn't say, a flat out rejection. Maybe he is willing to listen to what they have to offer (if an actual offer is going to be made).
Isn't what this rumor is about...someone at RM office is interested in offering Benedict a role? If the rumor is true, someone could have jumped the gun and leaked the information before Dirk Benedict of contacted (as mention before, he is out of the country).
I believe this is just a rumor and it would be unfortunate if it has put Benedict on the defense. I for one look forward to seeing him again in any project.
BTW: Any word what the film project is about that Benedict is working on?
nccdee
Dawg
August 11th, 2004, 03:29 PM
It's foregone conclusion that RDM wants as many of the original actors on his show as he can get, for two reasons:
1. To try to bring in as many TOS fans as he can, which would give the appearance that the TOS actors have bought in to his vision; and
2. To scuttle the chances of TOS rearing it's ugly head and sinking his show in a backwash of fan scorn and dirision.
:blink: :laugh:
Well, it sounded good, anyway.
Seriously, though, it simply makes sense that if he calls his show "Battlestar Galactica", it stands to reason he'd like as many of the actors from the 1978 show of that name to appear in it. The fact that there's been so much TOS fan rejection to date simply makes it more attractive to stunt cast.
Richard, BTW, never said "no" to anything other than the cheap-shot cameo he was offered for the mini. As far as it was concerned, he pointed out he didn't like some of what he saw, he appreciated other things he saw. A role was offered he thought he could sink his teeth into, so he accepted it - he's an actor, after all.
Dirk never struck me as someone who would let outsiders make his decisions for him. He's on record as disliking - rather significantly - what the Moore production did under the marquee of "Battlestar Galactica". My gut says he'd refuse a role in a production he didn't like unless the money was extraordinary - or, like Richard, the role was a major part for any actor. Since we know they had to run to England for series money..... Draw your own conclusions.
We'll see what happens.
I am
Dawg
:warrior:
thomas7g
August 11th, 2004, 03:45 PM
Actually.... I'm getting a different view of this....
Hatch doesn't like the changes. But he see a job as a job. And if they offer him a good role, woth some aspect that he can find some interested in, then he'll take the role. Its like me. I hate Disney movies, they company is unethical at times, but if they offer me a good paying interesting job, I'll take it! Wouldn't you?
:)
I assume the same is with most folks including Benedict. He seems a very reasonable gent. But sofar from Tracy and Bill he's said that he hasn't heard anything from THEM. I'm sure that's not a slight. Just they are busy doing their own thing and aren't looking to make a role for him right now. Afterall, a new show, they may have ideas for all their seasons episode already.
That beautiful woman who played the Goa'uld Osiris isn't going to be in the final season. She has expressed interest in returning. The producers have expressed that they would like to do another final cap to her story. Its just that they already have plotted out the remaining episodes and they won't be able to fit her in.
I disagree with personifing this to "they hate Dirk" or want to exploit his appeal to us. Cause it doesn't seem to be the case. At least not right now it ain't. And even if they did want him, its perfectly normal for any show to want to take advantage of a star's appeal.
tracyb144
August 11th, 2004, 03:51 PM
BTW: Any word what the film project is about that Benedict is working on?
nccdee
I don't have anything more specific at the moment other than the name of the film is "STRIKE!" and it's being filmed in Germany starting next week until later in the year. The film's director is named Peter Thorwarth. I looked under his name at the IMDB and the film is listed there under it's german title, but not much info there yet other than the film is listed as a "comedy".
Tracy
nccdee
August 11th, 2004, 05:38 PM
Thanks Tracy: A Comedy? Cool. I'll be looking for it. I alway enjoyed his character on the A-Team, playing on a lighter-side without being the clown. Dwight Schultz was great playing that part but I was glad to see him playing Barclay in Star Trek (I just found out that Schultz played a voice in the new Battlestar Galactica game).
I like seeing "old" stars return, even in just guest spots. One good example was seeing Ricardo Montalban in Spy Kids (2nd & 3rd movie). I guess I just getting old.
Having like the mini, I want to give the series a chance. Yes, my interest has "increased even more" because of Richard Hatch being in episode #3. Seeing him would be great and I hope his has a really good role to play. I won't deny that RM is play with my or other fans emotion with guest appearance but that is nothing new to television. That's part of games of getting viewers.
Good luck to Dirk Benedict, to what ever he decide to do.
nccdee
bsg1fan1975
August 13th, 2004, 12:11 PM
Thanks Tracy I'll keep my eye open for that one!
nccdee
August 16th, 2004, 02:41 PM
Tracy144, you need to add the www. to the link for dirkdenedictcentral.com. Without it, it will take you to another site. Thanks for the news flash.
http://www.dirkbenedictcentral.com/newsflash.html
nccdee
Reverend Dr Syn
August 18th, 2004, 05:00 PM
Praise the Lord and pass the credits!
BST
August 18th, 2004, 06:00 PM
Praise the Lord and pass the credits!
:D
Reverend Dr Syn
September 8th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Actually.... I'm getting a different view of this....
Hatch doesn't like the changes. But he see a job as a job. And if they offer him a good role, woth some aspect that he can find some interested in, then he'll take the role. Its like me. I hate Disney movies, they company is unethical at times, but if they offer me a good paying interesting job, I'll take it! Wouldn't you?
:)
.
No, I stick to my ethics. There's no point in having them if you say one thing and then turn around and do the opposite. Resolve needs to be absolute and unwavering. Even if it might get inconvenient. Thats the price you pay for personal honor. It ain't SUPPOSED to be easy all the time.
Rowan
September 8th, 2004, 12:53 AM
ethics: morraly correct
principle: a personal code of right conduct
Hello Reverend :) I think you were refering to principles not ethics.
And it sounds like a pretty big assumption to make... perhaps for Thomas and Mr. Hatch it was more a matter of opinion and not priciples in which case they are free to change their minds as new information becomes available, that is after all how we grow as human beings, by being open to change and new ideas.
No, I stick to my ethics. There's no point in having them if you say one thing and then turn around and do the opposite. Resolve needs to be absolute and unwavering. Even if it might get inconvenient. Thats the price you pay for personal honor. It ain't SUPPOSED to be easy all the time.You sound just like Bombadil with this remark! LOL ...Are you a real Reverend?
thomas7g
September 8th, 2004, 01:37 AM
No, I stick to my ethics. There's no point in having them if you say one thing and then turn around and do the opposite. Resolve needs to be absolute and unwavering. Even if it might get inconvenient. Thats the price you pay for personal honor. It ain't SUPPOSED to be easy all the time.Yes. I think that one should take a stand. For beliefs regarding segregations, against predjudice, abortion or prochoice, or corporate criminal acts. I would never take a job from the KKK even if I was hungry and couldn't afford a meal. I would never take a job that undermines my country or harms another person.
I am a extremely moral and ethical person. I have avoided lies all my life and am actually bad at the telling of a lie. I always tell the truth even though it gets me into trouble. And I have suffered GREATLY cause of that trait. Hell... I don't hardly ever say the F word. I avoid that kind of cussing. And I believe in keeping your word.
But Battlestar Galactica is a TV SHOW. And I believe in treating it like a tv show and not a life or a religious cause.
Richard never said he WOULDN'T take a part on the new show. He just said he didn't like the changes. He still believes that the old show was alot better and should be continued. That is not a contradiction.
Richard is a good person. So am I.
:erk:
martok2112
September 8th, 2004, 01:42 AM
Thomas and Rowan,
HEAR HEAR!!!
Martok2112
Reverend Dr Syn
September 16th, 2004, 03:11 AM
Yes. I think that one should take a stand. For beliefs regarding segregations, against predjudice, abortion or prochoice, or corporate criminal acts. I would never take a job from the KKK even if I was hungry and couldn't afford a meal. I would never take a job that undermines my country or harms another person.
I am a extremely moral and ethical person. I have avoided lies all my life and am actually bad at the telling of a lie. I always tell the truth even though it gets me into trouble. And I have suffered GREATLY cause of that trait. Hell... I don't hardly ever say the F word. I avoid that kind of cussing. And I believe in keeping your word.
But Battlestar Galactica is a TV SHOW. And I believe in treating it like a tv show and not a life or a religious cause.
Richard never said he WOULDN'T take a part on the new show. He just said he didn't like the changes. He still believes that the old show was alot better and should be continued. That is not a contradiction.
Richard is a good person. So am I.
:erk:
I like to think Im a good person too you know.
And if he said he didnt like the changes, then turns around and appears on the show, how can it possibly NOT look like the changes are now okay to him? If he beleives the old show is better, then why is he embracing what is essentially its antithesis and the biggest roadblock to his project getting made?
that is after all how we grow as human beings, by being open to change and new ideas.
Of course Im open to change and new ideas. And stuff like Starbuck and Boomer being women are BAD changes. A drunken white guy Tigh is a BAD change. Hatch had plenty of good changes in store for his revival. Red Vipers, return of the Cylon race. Dont ever think Im someone who is against the concept of change and that Im not hating RDMs version simply for it's own sake. I feel my reasons are quite valid.
You sound just like Bombadil with this remark! LOL ...Are you a real Reverend?
Who? I do hope that isnt an insult. I take my ideals pretty seriously. And no Im not a member of the clergy. Its an LoEG reference. And yes, the irony that it's another work of RDM is not lost upon me. Even the great Stan Lee, the man who almost single-handedly revolutionized the comics industry wrote the disastrous "Just Imagine" miniseries for DC comics. So I *DO* like some of Moore's work. But it isnt a standard I apply unilaterally just because his name is on it. In fact Im still annoyed at him for getting the proposed WATCHMEN figures cancelled.
I can however do a pretty good Rev Jim impression.
bsg1fan1975
September 16th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Yes. I think that one should take a stand. For beliefs regarding segregations, against predjudice, abortion or prochoice, or corporate criminal acts. I would never take a job from the KKK even if I was hungry and couldn't afford a meal. I would never take a job that undermines my country or harms another person.
I am a extremely moral and ethical person. I have avoided lies all my life and am actually bad at the telling of a lie. I always tell the truth even though it gets me into trouble. And I have suffered GREATLY cause of that trait. Hell... I don't hardly ever say the F word. I avoid that kind of cussing. And I believe in keeping your word.
But Battlestar Galactica is a TV SHOW. And I believe in treating it like a tv show and not a life or a religious cause.
Richard never said he WOULDN'T take a part on the new show. He just said he didn't like the changes. He still believes that the old show was alot better and should be continued. That is not a contradiction.
Richard is a good person. So am I.
:erk:
well put my dear brother! I do so agree! You have to stick to your viewpoint!
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