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koenigrules
August 5th, 2004, 06:20 AM
I have been holding off on this news item, BUT people have been making guesses as to who the TOS actor is for Episode 13 of the new BSG.
Well, rumor has it it's Dirk.
He won't be reprising the role of Starbuck (obviously) or Starbuck's dad or even one of the Galactica crew.
Rather, he might be playing an omnipotent being, possibly god, in the Episode 13 cliffhanger.
More details will be forthcoming as they are relayed to me.
KR

The 14th Colony
August 5th, 2004, 08:05 AM
Some fans already Dirk is God, so it wouldn't be a stretch.

Gemini1999
August 5th, 2004, 08:42 AM
Absolute bollocks.....!

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 08:55 AM
Absolute bollocks.....!

Maybe so.
At the least, I am not jumping on this bandwagon.

But, I would not reflexively discount this from the realm of the possible.
Seems unlikely given statments from DB.
Just like statments from RH indicated it would be highly unlikely that he would participate.

I have seen a few good posts from diehard fans stating that they wouldn't take it too hard if DB were to participate. I think that is a healty attitude to keep.

I suppose that some fans would feel betrayed if it turned out to be true, and I think that is sad. I don't fully appreciate that sentiment, as I do not stand on the ground that hopes DB doesn't grace the new production.

Gemini1999
August 5th, 2004, 09:08 AM
In case someone missed the discussion that was already in progress in the News section.... Tracy has already said that this rumor isn't worth anyone's time:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showpost.php?p=117622&postcount=3

I'll believe her before I believe anyone else's "sources" or speculation. That, or unless DB makes his own announcement...

Crap, pure crap.....!

Marley - I'm kind of surprised.....you're usually someone that is very "fact oriented", or at least someone who researches things thouroughly before taking someone else's word. Are we slipping a bit? Hmmm?

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 09:26 AM
Marley - I'm kind of surprised.....you're usually someone that is very "fact oriented", or at least someone who researches things thouroughly before taking someone else's word. Are we slipping a bit? Hmmm?

I understand.

As stated, I am not jumping on this bandwagon.

As for Tracy's comments, I give it certain weight. I certainly do not think she would lie about this, but if it were true, there might be other reasons that such a thing might not be revealed.

I advocate a cautious optimism for those that are excited by the idea, and cautious pessimism for those that are offended by the idea.

Either way, in a few months, we can all objectively evaluate the veracity of KR's rumors.

That caution is part of my "fact oriented" approach.

koenigrules
August 5th, 2004, 10:42 AM
As I've stated on some other posts, and of course this is all pure speculation, perhaps RDM wants to reintroduce the Beings of Light in the cliffhanger. He has stated that he would like to redo that storyline.
That explains why god/Dirk is inserted into the plot.
KR

Dawg
August 5th, 2004, 10:45 AM
I feel compelled to comment that I won't dignify this rumor with a comment.

:devil: ;)

While not completely outside the realm of possibility, I can't give much credence to this rumor without some credible corroboration - and that's something we just don't have.

So I'm not going to discuss it.

My attitude about the possibility is the same as when we were discussing Richard's situation: more power to him if it's something he wants to do - stunt casting aside.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

Charybdis
August 5th, 2004, 10:52 AM
Well I will comment from my perspective. These actors can do anything they want, far be it from me to tell them what to do with their professional lives, BUT...

it will not change a thing toward my view of the mini and the new series. Richard is now in it and I will not be watching. Dirk may be in it and I still will not be watching...

thomas7g
August 5th, 2004, 12:55 PM
Well... as long as we are believing RUMORS.....Bonnie Hammer has decided to give up her position as Scifi VP of programming for a new role in Moore's Galactica.

Rumors has it she is somehow connected to Kara Thrace. Actually she used to be connected. As a Saimese twin.

Rumor has it......;)

That's what I hate about fanbases. They go shark frenzy over rumors and treat it lke fact. And they argue and get into arguments over these "facts". Like the insanely heated arguments over the miniseries getting a GO for a series.

And I can tell ya, that's the big thing that make the fanbase look stupid to the big guys. Cause they know the truth. And we look like idiots.

And then fans say the big guys have to listen to what the FANS say?

:)

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 01:07 PM
This really makes me miss Slide'r' posts so much.

We really need some input from his source "Deep Trash" on this rumor.

I wonder if he left his PM to notify by email?

Gemini1999
August 5th, 2004, 01:16 PM
Well... as long as we are believing RUMORS.....Bonnie Hammer has decided to give up her position as Scifi VP of programming for a new role in Moore's Galactica.

Rumors has it she is somehow connected to Kara Thrace. Actually she used to be connected. As a Siamese twin.

Rumor has it......;)

Tom -

I have one question - Can your sources confirm this or not....? I'm tellin' ya - we need a "Rumor Has It" section to the forum, so folks can decide if they want to bother to read and discuss this felgercarb or not. It's hardly news if there aren't any facts to back it up and it isn't a discussion unless there is something to actually discuss. Otherwise, it's just a waste of keystrokes and time....

I, for one, would like to say that if there is news about TNS, it's a bit dissappointing that the best that folks can get is rumors. I wouldn't mind hearing some actual news pieces or seeing some new production stuff.

Hey, I've got one.... There's a rumor going around that there's gonna be a BSG continuation film announcement to coincide with the release of the CFF ads. Don't you think it's odd, that they picked that particular month to do it???

You can see how if someone says "I heard something" and spreads it around, what the result could be....

Best to all,
Bryan

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 01:23 PM
"Rumor" tells you right away to take it with a grain of salt, or a few beers as the case may be.

All will be made plain in time.

I think everyone can understand that if there is a good source, he would want to protect it.
And, if it turns out that this is bogus, there is always the "ignore" function.

thomas7g
August 5th, 2004, 01:34 PM
LOL! Yes! I heard that rumor too! And just a few seconds ago! Its an AMAZING COINCIDENCE! It MUST BE TRUE!

Oh that is silly. But worth a good laugh! Sure why not. Though we may be making our own Frankenstein that we can't control.

:D

Regarding rumors, its free speech to go nuts over a rumor we like ...or hate... And people like free speech. But at the same time we tend to look a little ridiculous.

Its just ironic how often the fans DEMAND that they be listened to. But then there are so many instances where people yell and pound there keyboards over facts that later prove ephemeral. Gone with the wind. And fans scream YOU MUST PAY ATTENTION TO US!!!!!

My GOD. I hope at times they AREN'T paying attention to us!!!:D

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Take a look back at my old rumor thread:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6065

koenigrules
August 5th, 2004, 01:39 PM
I agree with Darth.
Take this with a grain of salt.
But I think it's better you know what's floating around on the BSG set!
KR

thomas7g
August 5th, 2004, 01:55 PM
"Rumor" tells you right away to take it with a grain of salt, or a few beers as the case may be.

All will be made plain in time.

I think everyone can understand that if there is a good source, he would want to protect it.
And, if it turns out that this is bogus, there is always the "ignore" function.
I think Ive said that a million times over... to no real effect. ;)

thomas7g
August 5th, 2004, 02:10 PM
btw I heard this topic is pretty rabid on other forums before I commented. At least that is what I'm told. I don't forum alot lately outside of CF
:)

kingfish
August 5th, 2004, 02:22 PM
btw I heard this topic is pretty rabid on other forums before I commented. At least that is what I'm told. I don't forum alot lately outside of CF
:)



Kingfish looks at Thomas, "Could you drive me to the hospital, I haven't had me rabbies shot yet." :D :laugh:

koenigrules
August 5th, 2004, 04:45 PM
I hope it isn't Kingdom Hospital!

thomas7g
August 5th, 2004, 04:45 PM
if you haven't had your shot...then I'm not driving you. Who knows what you may have.


:D :laugh:

jewels
August 5th, 2004, 04:47 PM
I agree with Darth.
Take this with a grain of salt.
But I think it's better you know what's floating around on the BSG set!
KR
KR, Dirk cancelled two cons, one in August and one in Sept. because he's filming a movie in Europe--Germany, I believe he said in his chat. Do not, I repeat, do not hold your breath.

I feel much better having said that. :)

koenigrules
August 5th, 2004, 05:13 PM
Even with Dirk's busy schedule, there are several ways he can still do BSG.
One is being the voice of god; they can simply record what he has to say without his committing to a week or so of filming.
He could only be in the final minutes of the cliffhanger, again keeping his commitment at a minimum.
Bottom line, if the money is worth it, Dirk can adjust his schedule.
I won't hold my breath- but I would not discount his appearance either.
KR

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Ah, the notion of phoning in the performance...not appetizing.

I really would hope that it would be worth the hype, rather than some silly stunt casting element, if it were to pan out.

kingfish
August 5th, 2004, 05:21 PM
Even with Dirk's busy schedule, there are several ways he can still do BSG.
One is being the voice of god; they can simply record what he has to say without his committing to a week or so of filming.
He could only be in the final minutes of the cliffhanger, again keeping his commitment at a minimum.
Bottom line, if the money is worth it, Dirk can adjust his schedule.
I won't hold my breath- but I would not discount his appearance either.
KR



The voice of God. :laugh: I believe George Murdock already did that in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.

kingfish
August 5th, 2004, 05:23 PM
I hope it isn't Kingdom Hospital!



Actually it is the hospital for rabid beavers. :beaver: :beaver: :beaver:

thomas7g
August 5th, 2004, 06:14 PM
Was that our doctor in that one?

BST
August 5th, 2004, 06:28 PM
Was that our doctor in that one?


From imdb:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098382/

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (1989)

Cast overview, first billed only:

William Shatner .... Captain James T. Kirk
Leonard Nimoy .... Captain Spock
DeForest Kelley .... Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy
James Doohan .... Capt. Montgomery "Scotty" Scott
Walter Koenig .... Commander Pavel Chekov
Nichelle Nichols .... Commander Nyota Uhura
George Takei .... Commander Hikaru Sulu
David Warner .... St. John Talbot
Laurence Luckinbill .... Sybok
Charles Cooper .... General Korrd
Cynthia Gouw .... Caithlin Dar
Todd Bryant .... Captain Klaa
Spice Williams .... Vixis
Rex Holman .... J'onn
George Murdock .... God

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 06:48 PM
Who's idea was it to let Shatner direct?

koenigrules
August 5th, 2004, 06:59 PM
It was Shatner's idea. After all, he is the God of Star Trek!

jewels
August 5th, 2004, 07:04 PM
No! you missed it in that IMDB listing: George Murdock (better known here as Dr. Salik) was the God in Star Trek. :laugh:

Now if you are referring to Shatner's 'tude...well, I'll refrain from commenting there.... ;)

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 07:06 PM
Keep Kirk Dead!

koenigrules
August 5th, 2004, 07:07 PM
You mean God is Dead!
I'm experiencing a faith crisis now...

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 07:16 PM
If it weren't for those evil Talosians, we would have had Jeff Archer as Christopher Pike instead of that hack, Shatner.

Gemini1999
August 5th, 2004, 08:00 PM
If it weren't for those evil Talosians, we would have had Jeff Archer as Christopher Pike instead of that hack, Shatner.

Marley -

Jeff Archer?? Who the hell is Jeff Archer? You mean Jeffrey Hunter, don't you? The reason that we didn't Jeffrey Hunter and wound up with Bill Shatner was due to the fact that Hunter's wife thought the role was "too small" for her rising star husband. Hoo boy, if she only knew what Trek would do for an actor.....!

Best,
Bryan

Darth Marley
August 5th, 2004, 08:04 PM
My mistake.
I really only remember the name from the "Stewie" monologue in the Family Guy" X-mas ep.

I really despise Shatner as Kirk though.

thomas7g
August 5th, 2004, 11:14 PM
You just mixed up your captains that's all. Captain Archer is Scott Bakula. :D

BTW- Getting Trek wouldn't have done Jeffrey Hunter any good. Trek killed the careers of the main cast for over a decade. They were all frustrated at being stereotyped.

And sadly Jeffrey Hunter died in 1969, way before Trek would see paydirt.:(

CommanderTaggart
August 6th, 2004, 10:16 AM
Bring Back Kirk! But don't let him direct.

julix
August 6th, 2004, 10:22 AM
I loved Kirk in TOS didn't know what a weirdo he was...but hey I have come to SOMEWHAT accept him. He did a role on the practice which is spining off to a new series. I thought he did pretty good(James Spader so rocks!!!) But pease yes don't let him direct!!!!!!! Note...I did love the actor that play Pike.....

CommanderTaggart
August 6th, 2004, 10:57 AM
How could Dirk be back in Battlestar Galactica, anyway? Did someone greenlight the continuation movie and nobody told me!?!?!?!

jewels
August 6th, 2004, 12:37 PM
How could Dirk be back in Battlestar Galactica, anyway? Did someone greenlight the continuation movie and nobody told me!?!?!?!
*basks in the 2 second fantasy*

That was nice, thank you!

Psst, Tag, after that transforming robot movie, perhaps. "there are always....possibilities."

thomas7g
August 6th, 2004, 12:56 PM
Bring Back Kirk! But don't let him direct.
Oh God Yeah! On both parts!

Though I think on looking back... the pacing and editing and performance off the characters weren't so bad.... But the script...oh man that sucked! Spocks Mind Control Brother who wants to meet God?!?!?!?

;)

thomas7g
August 6th, 2004, 01:00 PM
How could Dirk be back in Battlestar Galactica, anyway? Did someone greenlight the continuation movie and nobody told me!?!?!?!Ya know... you and me and a few others may get a whiff of this a little ahead of the public. But really, the big players will have greenlit BG months ahead of when we know it. Because when this forum and yours knows it, it will have already become public knowledge for the whole world to know.

So there will be a time when this project is greenlit and we are clueless.

I look forward to those days. If they aren't already here. :D

Sept17th
August 7th, 2004, 12:23 PM
I have been holding off on this news item, BUT people have been making guesses as to who the TOS actor is for Episode 13 of the new BSG.
Well, rumor has it it's Dirk.

OH THERE IS ANOTHER ACTOR coming on board you just have the wrong one. Its Bearded Guy from TOS.

amberstar
August 7th, 2004, 04:58 PM
I look forward to those days. If they aren't already here. :D


I'm looking forward to that day too :D

By the way Tom..............

If you get an early thumbs up you just have to let me know too.....I can keep secrets! ;)

koenigrules
August 7th, 2004, 05:01 PM
I also hear Smoking Man from the X-Files is signing on too.
And he's got one of Dirk's cigars!
Ha! :D

jewels
August 7th, 2004, 05:33 PM
I saw Cancer Man on another series just this last week. It was a little disconcerting since I instantly was suspicious of him due to that lovely, creepy, conspiratorial X-files role!

Anyway Cancer Man is still working, he's familiar with those folks in BC (X-files shot up there too) and that's a rumor I could believe. haha! :laugh::cry: :laugh:

koenigrules
August 8th, 2004, 01:58 PM
Apothis had this to say over at MB today:

I know KR is taking a bath in this rumor at the moment since it has yet to be finalized. The facts on the matter are simple:

The early draft of episode 13 has a godlike role.
The new BSG would like Dirk Benedict to play the role.
The new BSG has offered the role to Dirk Benedict.
The deal is far from finalized but it is 50/50 at the moment.

As for posting it now when the initial offer is made is KR's eternal optimism that Dirk will take the role just like Hatch took the role he was offered. KR is an optimist and I know in the past our website would prefer things to be finalized before making it available for public consumption. However, one must enjoy the fact that KR is enthusiastic to share the inside information as quickly as he receives. I applaud him for that and I enjoy the fact he updates are News Section too. Way to go KR!!!


At least Apothis indicates Dirk has been approached re: the role.
Whether he accepts or not, only time will tell.
This may not change your views towards Dirk's involvement, but it at least indicates that the rumor is not foundless.
KR

BST
August 8th, 2004, 02:09 PM
Apothis had this to say over at MB today:

I know KR is taking a bath in this rumor at the moment since it has yet to be finalized. The facts on the matter are simple:

The early draft of episode 13 has a godlike role.
The new BSG would like Dirk Benedict to play the role.
The new BSG has offered the role to Dirk Benedict.
The deal is far from finalized but it is 50/50 at the moment.

As for posting it now when the initial offer is made is KR's eternal optimism that Dirk will take the role just like Hatch took the role he was offered. KR is an optimist and I know in the past our website would prefer things to be finalized before making it available for public consumption. However, one must enjoy the fact that KR is enthusiastic to share the inside information as quickly as he receives. I applaud him for that and I enjoy the fact he updates are News Section too. Way to go KR!!!


At least Apothis indicates Dirk has been approached re: the role.
Whether he accepts or not, only time will tell.
This may not change your views towards Dirk's involvement, but it at least indicates that the rumor is not foundless.
KR

KR,

Whether Dirk is considering it or not, I could care less. However, I will be more willing to believe if it came from his webmistress, Tracy. I don't give ONE OUNCE of credence to ANYTHING stated by Apothis. As far as I'm concerned he AND his words are "persona non grata". Period. If you want to report "possibilities", that's fine. I would consider a different source, for your reports, however.

koenigrules
August 8th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Just to set the record straight,
Apothis is not my source.
He has ones of his own who have verified what mine has stated.
Whether you choose to support our sources or not is your choice.
KR

BST
August 8th, 2004, 02:20 PM
Thanks.

kingfish
August 8th, 2004, 02:26 PM
Just to set the record straight,
Apothis is not my source.
He has ones of his own who have verified what mine has stated.
Whether you choose to support our sources or not is your choice.
KR


Apothis, enough said. he might not be the source but we all know his track record. :thumbdown

CommanderTaggart
August 8th, 2004, 02:34 PM
What Apothis has said is not too far off from what I have been told, but I have heard it a bit differently. It's still all idle, not to mention useless, speculation to me until I have the skinny straight from Dirk.

thomas7g
August 8th, 2004, 03:14 PM
I'm not happy or upset that Dirk may be in the new show. But like my feelings for Hatch I wish Benedict the best and I am glad to hear opportunities are still knocking at his door.


I do find it kinda odd....I'm getting the impressioin that the same folks who condemned his acting in the original as out of date,chauvanistic, and 2dimensional are now applauding him now that he is "on their side".

I'm not talking about you or specifically even Apothis. That's just the impression I am getting.

But regarding him. I sincerely hope he is having fun on MB and I hope that he enjoys his prefered Galactica. But I don't respect him after all the dirty internet attacking he has done. And well... quoting him kinda makes ya look bad KR when you get down to it. Its like quoting Kobe Bryant in Denver Colorado.
:/:

koenigrules
August 8th, 2004, 03:18 PM
Well, I for one respect Apothis.
And I feel glad to be quoting him if he can verify some of what I stated.
It's a shame that others are now coming out of the woodwork and saying my story is not so far-fetched as when it first was posted.
It's nice to have a friend like Apothis when all the others turn against you or are curiously silent & let you go it alone for the long haul.
By the way, my comments are not directed to anyone in particular.
It's just the way I have been feeling based on the initial reactions on this board.
In any case, I will continue to post what I hear.
If you like, fine; if not, fine too.
Let the chips fall where they may.
KR

thomas7g
August 8th, 2004, 03:23 PM
attacking people on the internet is a disgusting act.

And well... I'm not willing to see this thread go farther and argue apothis's reputation.

So thread closed.



feel free to talk about Dirk or other guest stars, but please use a new thread.


And feel free to use PMs to debate Apothis with KR instead of public threads. :)

BST
August 8th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Well, I for one respect Apothis.
And I feel glad to be quoting him if he can verify some of what I stated.
It's a shame that others are now coming out of the woodwork and saying my story is not so far-fetched as when it first was posted.
It's nice to have a friend like Apothis when all the others turn against you or are curiously silent & let you go it alone for the long haul.
Just the way I feel.
In any case, I will continue to post what I hear.
If you like, fine; if not, fine too.
Let the chips fall where they may.
KR

KR,

If you respect Apothis then, you just lost mine. Not that it may have meant much to you but, you lost it nonetheless.

Stating that SCI-FI would love to have DB on the show is not exactly an earth-shattering event. That's been common knowledge for quite some time.

I'm willing to let the chips fall where they may. After they've fallen, you may find that you have more in common with us than you did previously.

BST