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[julix]

It is official folks.....The title for the final Star Wars film is ................











Revenge of the Sith

[Rowan]

And here is the link to some pics from that show

http://www.geocities.com/billds9/Star_Wars_Pictures.htm

[julix]

Thanks for the pix again Rowan!!!! :salute:

[Charybdis]

Yup, I finally heard about it today!!! Was off the computer the whole weekend !!

Kind of unimaginative overall since Return of the Jedi was supposed to be called Revenge of the Jedi originally, but it does fit and is not as wacky as Attack of the Clones or The Phantom Menace...

Here is my list for ranking the Star WArs films:

1. Star Wars
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. Attack of the Clones
4. Return of the Jedi
5. The Phantom Menace

The new film might rank in there at number 2 or 3 depending on how it turns out, but I doubt that anything will ever sway my opinion of the original movie and Empire...

[julix]

AH, AH ,AH


Charybdis,


With all due respect let me lead you into the light, yes it is true that Lucas originally was going to call episode six Revenge of the Jedi and some posters etc went out(a good friend of ours has one) but it dawned on GL that Jedi do not take revenge, it is against all things that are Jedi. Thus, the title was changed to Return of the Jedi which is more appropriate. Then yes you can drawn some similarities but that is the reason behind the change :D


P.S. Episode IV is called A New Hope(yes I am a Star Wars Geek-and proud of it!!!)

[Ian_W359]

:blink: Revenge Of The Sith? Come back to me in 12 months, and ask me if I like it then!

But seriously, it took me a while to warm to the naming of 'The Phantom Menace' and 'Attack Of The Clones'. Names I thought were a bit weak at the outset, but in the end, kinda made sense. 'Revenge Of The Sith' however, I'll get back to you on that one......

All the best,
Ian W359
:)

[The 14th Colony]

I love it. I totally love it. It has the dark, ominous tone that I've expected from the third movie. There was Darth Maul's statement in TPM which was never explained (aside from in the novel, and the imagination of fans), "...at last we will have our revenge," and then this title, bringing a close to a concept that was begun in the first episode and culminating in this final storyline. I remember when I first read the Episode I title, after years of speculating what the first film would involve, and following plot and character spoilers for months prior to the revelation, I was shocked like many fans. I thought "The Phantom Menace" was lame, cheesy, and weak as a title. Of course, the more I thought it over, the more it made sense to me, though it still sounded cheesy for quite some time. I later came to really like that title, and finally accepted it and decided I wouldn't want it to be called anything else. With Attack of the Clones, however, it sounded lame and cheesy, and weak at first, and I still don't like it. But Revenge of the Sith sounded great during the long speculation before hand, and sounds even stronger now. In fact, of all the titles I would rate them in the following order of how strong and intriguing they sound and how they touch my intellect. Don't get me wrong, this is not my rating of the quality of each episode's story, but only my rating of the titles themselves.

Revenge of the Sith
The Phantom Menace
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
A New Hope
Attack of the Clones

[BST]

It is official folks.....The title for the final Star Wars film is ................
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Revenge of the Sith


I like it. The only problem with this particular movie is that there is a "whole lot of story that has to be told". Hopefully, it will have a bit longer run-time to accomodate all the pieces that must be put in their proper place. I think it will be a "good" flick but, I'm afraid that it's all going to be a bit "rushed".

Looking forward to it, nonetheless!! :thumbsup:

[julix]

14th Colony...
I agree with the name of the title...I think it is very fitting and will tie many things together. BST..I also agree I can't imagine how Lucas is going to pull it off. The (Star Wars circle of friends)group and I keep joking he would have to do EpisodeIII part A, B, and C.....But if anyone can pull it off it would be Lucas. We shall see :)


P.S. I like the title Attack of the Clones the least as well.

[braxiss]

i don't really care what it's called, i just hope it's better than the last one

[Rowan]

Lucas was just dying I guess to finally use that "revenge" word in one of his movie titles it was initially going to be Revenge of the Jedi but he changed his mind remember because Jedi are not about the dark side and revenge is a dark word. This movie is going to have to be very dark on a lot of story lines. :D It's a good title for a dark story.

[Rowan]

i don't really care what it's called, i just hope it's better than the last onefor me that would be the last three!:(

[braxiss]

for me that would be the last three!:(
i agree

[julix]

Folks
Those may be fightin words!!!!!No I understand both sides but THOSE MAY BE FIGHTIN WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Rowan]

Folks
Those may be fightin words!!!!!No I understand both sides but THOSE MAY BE FIGHTIN WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DLOL! ((((((((((Julix)))))))))))

my big complaint in the Empire Strikes back is the Ewoks I wanted a planet of Wookies like he initially planned I wanted a tougher less comedic/silly story and I have the same issue with Phantom menace I HATED!!! Jar Jar I don't want slapstick comedy. This is supposed to be an epic galactic tale of the fight between good and evil. The initial title captured my imagination Star Wars a WAR among people in a galaxy far far away fought on many planets. I want to feel the enormity and the implications of such a battle. I wanted it to be tough and gritty. I do love most of the humour in the initial trilogy the sarcastic wit was great but I can't abide the silliness of characters like Jar Jar it just kept distracting me and pulling me out of the story.



Hey we could use an olive branch smilie ;) :D

[julix]

Rowan...
I love ya...you know I could never fight cha(especially after the gift of the triad pictures :D ) Here is the deal about JarJar. He is distracting and anoying...I think Lucas was trying to show that all living things have importance even the smallest ewok could help win freedom and even a silly backwards (not very smart) being could have the key to help....I understand ya!

[Rowan]

Rowan...
I love ya...you know I could never fight cha(especially after the gift of the triad pictures :D ) Here is the deal about JarJar. He is distracting and anoying...I think Lucas was trying to show that all living things have importance even the smallest ewok could help win freedom and even a silly backwards (not very smart) being could have the key to help....I understand ya!

:love: She loves me:D "whew" I'm sure glad I found that pic!! LOL!;) :D
I remember him giving that explanation or one very similar to it about the Ewoks. I understood the rational and agree with the premise but just wasn't happy with the translation to screen.;)

[julix]

Rowan.....
Yes I agree the screen presentation(of JarJar) was not my first choice! I think even Lucas in retrospect has admitted that...the guy is not perfect(just like the rest of us LOL) but I have to hand it to him he does it his way with no interference. I wish we had that for BG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bsg1fan1975]

heard on my local country station that it will be released may 19 of 2005

[Bijou88]

I was hoping episode III would be called "The Painful Death Of Jar Jar Binks." But "Revenge of the Sith" works for me.

[braxiss]

I was hoping episode III would be called "The Painful Death Of Jar Jar Binks." But "Revenge of the Sith" works for me.


maybe even though it's not the title, the death of jar jar will still be in there

[Muffit]

Thanks Julix :)

Gee, and I thought it was gonna be called "Script Wars - yet another confusing script" or "Barney Does Jar-Jar" ;)

Sorry, had to chime in with ya'all!!! :laugh:
I LOVED the original trilogy. The plots were extremely basic and easily understood and fantasized to. In stark contrast, I have NO IDEA what is going on in the latest two movies. Both scripts lost me after the first line of dialogue :wtf:

I would much rather see the original stars in a sequel...

Anwho, THANKS Julix! Hope you love it!!! :thumbsup:
:muffit:

[julix]

Muffit
I hear ya...If you want to ask questions I am here to humbly try to ease the confusion(if I can). I would have loved to see the original stars in a sequel but there again it was not on Lucas's agenda. There are a sereies of books that takes up where Return of the Jedi leaves off. My husband reads them and they are quite good-so he thinks. But there is nothing like seeing your heros on the big screen. SIGH..........I am thinking of BG of course!

[bsg1fan1975]

one can only hope at least in Ep. 2 he was not in there as much as the first!

[Charybdis]

I have to admit, that whole premise of Ep. I of the blockade and trade disputes was really uninspiring for a main plot. Although, of course, the special effects were neat...

At least I got the gist of Ep II and I liked it much better, but the original trilogy is the best...

[julix]

Well, as I see it the trade dispute was just a part of the emperor's grand plan to get to power and take control. That is how he became Chancelor and as we saw in episode two he uses JarJar to utimately get supreme power which is what he wanted all along.

[Charybdis]

What I don't understand is that if Amidala was going to vote against the creation of the Republic Army, why did Jar-Jar propose it?? If he was going to stand in for her, he should have gone along with her wishes, not his own!!!

[Bijou88]

What I don't understand is that if Amidala was going to vote against the creation of the Republic Army, why did Jar-Jar propose it?? If he was going to stand in for her, he should have gone along with her wishes, not his own!!!


It's very simple. Jar Jar is an IDIOT! Lucas, what were you thinking when you created the most annoying, pointless character in the history of cinema?

[julix]

Jar Jar was manipulated by the emperor(then chancelor)so that he could get supreme power. He planted the seed in JarJar's head to call for the vote for emergency powers in a conversation he had before the vote. It went something like ...if only there were someone brave enough to pupose this resolution. This was in reference to Padme being gone and using her absence and JarJar need to be important. It was all part of the grand plan. He wanted the army so he could eventually get rid of the Jedi.

[Charybdis]

I think I have to rewatch AOTC...

[The 14th Colony]

What I don't understand is that if Amidala was going to vote against the creation of the Republic Army, why did Jar-Jar propose it?? If he was going to stand in for her, he should have gone along with her wishes, not his own!!!
Sure Amidala was dead set against the Republic having an army because she was sure that it would provoke the Seperatists into war. But it became obvious toward the end of the film that the Seperatists wanted war anyway; that war was unavoidable. When the new Clone army showed up in the nick of time to save her butt and that of the surviving Jedi in the arena, she didn't say, "No, no, this isn't right, we should talk not fight", she fought alongside the army that she had opposed (though she hadn't known about any clone army when she returned to Coruscant for the vote.) Likewise, it was clear to the senators in Palpatine's office after hearing Obi-Wan's report that war was unavoidable, that the Seperatists were preparing to attack the Republic. So it was just as clear to Jar Jar that at that point war was necessary.

[The 14th Colony]

I have to admit, that whole premise of Ep. I of the blockade and trade disputes was really uninspiring for a main plot. Although, of course, the special effects were neat...

At least I got the gist of Ep II and I liked it much better, but the original trilogy is the best...
Well, as I see it the trade dispute was just a part of the emperor's grand plan to get to power and take control. That is how he became Chancelor and as we saw in episode two he uses JarJar to utimately get supreme power which is what he wanted all along.
Yes, yes, to Julix you listen! The cave, remember your...never mind the cave. Funny thing is, during tonight's speech by John Kerry, he made a statement about when he is president, he won't let the government be run by big corporations, and I immediately recalled the Trade Federation and the corrupt Galactic Senate.

[julix]

It is funny how politicans and coruptness go hand in hand...in fact when you hear some would be politican give the "I am just a regular guy" speech it makes you wonder. For example here in Colorado Pete Coors is running for office(I can't remember which) and says we do not need another "politican" in the senate(or whatever) elect me. Of course he is a big bussiness man and heir(one of them ) to the Coors fortune. I am sure grew up with way more advantages then most of us here .......anyway you get my drift. I am not speaking about where some of these people stand on the issues just thought it was interesting. Many people can't handle the power..............Darth"If you only knew the POWER"

[PlaidSquadron]

I am looking forward to the Revenge of the Sith (and I like the name too)

But it should be a real down movie. It has to end with the creation of Vader, the destruction of the Jedi and the rise of the Emperor. That is the trouble with presenting the story out of order. Its like watching a movie about WWII and ending it when Hitler takes power. You know its going to end all right, but I really don't see how this movie can be "uplifting"

[Charybdis]

Yup. It sure is not going to be uplifting, unless the last scenes are of the twin babies, Luke and Leia, then you know that all will be right in the end...

I don't know, although it won't be uplifting knowing all these things will pass, you have to admit that the power of the story in this case does work with this kind of "impending doom" ending...

[julix]

It is true that Episode III will be very dark...Lucas has warned the fans of this. As far as the order Lucas did the films in, it was because A New Hope was the most marketable film that he could get done. He really couldn't have done another other one movie in 1977. He had no way, nor did anyone have of knowing how sucessful it would be. That is why he got to get control of the whole franchise(because of the money it made) and go ahead and do episode 5 and 6. Then of course he went back and did prequels because everyone wanted to know how Anakin became Vader and how the Jedi were wiped out etc.......and he wanted to tell those stories. He claims when this is done he is done with Star Wars and is moving on..............

[Bijou88]

It is a bummer that Lucas has abandoned his original plans for 9 Star Wars movies. It feels like all of us fans were mugged out of three movies!

[PlaidSquadron]

Yup. It sure is not going to be uplifting, unless the last scenes are of the twin babies, Luke and Leia, then you know that all will be right in the end...


I think it would be wrong to end with that shot. If you think of the 6 movies as one story, then the recognition in Empire, where Yoda says "there is another one" of the revelation in Jedi that Luke and Leia are related becomes minimized.

I think it will end with a pregnant Amadalla (sorry for the spelling) and Aniken thinking he will have a son. Amadalla may even tell him as much, with an aid saying something like "aren't you going to tell the truth?" That way the following movies (which we have already seen) still has a "twist" when viewed in the correct order

[julix]

Plaidsquadron............

It is hard to know how Lucas will end it of course...but there is debate as to whether Anakin/Vader ever knew he had children. Certainly, he never knew about Leia and says as much as he tells Luke "You have a sister, Obi-one was wise to hide her from me" In A new Hope he never mentions Luke as his son...the debate goes...he may have put it together after trying to figure out who the one was that destroyed the death star and why the force was strong with him. Or perhaps Padme does tell "Anakin" but when he falls to the dark side into Vader all the good in him gone(well untill Luke confronts him) he no longer remembers....It will be interesting to see. I also want to see how she turns to Bail Organa for help, which we know is the person Leia refers to as father.

[BST]

Most likely, the show will lead up to the conclusion with the death of Padme and her death will push Anakin "over the edge" and begin his journey to the Dark Side. I would suspect the actual "end scenes" to show Anakin being outfitted as Vader (with Palpatine smiling in the background) and Obi-Wan spiriting away Luke and Leia.

[julix]

BST..........
That is likely...but Leia does tell Luke when he asks about their mother, that she was allways sad(or something like that) which leads me to believe Padme dies when Leia is at least 4 or 5. My daughter is five and remembers somethings from 4. I guess she could remember things earlier since she is force sensitive. It has also long been thought "anakin" gets fitted with Vader suit after his fight with Obi-one when he falls in the acid vat and is horribly disfigured.

[BST]

Interesting, Julix. Another possibility is that Leia's sadness is from not knowing her mother. I'm not familiar with Anakin's fall into the acid vat -- I've only followed SW through the films. Was that from a novel and is it considered "canon"?

[The 14th Colony]

BST, only some of the serious spoiler hounds know for sure at this point what Anakin falls into in the movie, but it has been known for many years that he falls into a volcano...or does he? Waaaa-aaay back in 1977 after Star Wars became a hit, several fans like myself read in Starlog magazine that Vader suffered his burns and disfigurement when at the end of a duel with Obi-Wan, he fell into lava. I don't remember if the Return of the Jedi novel verified or disputed that, but for all these years I've known that Lucas originally determined that the duel would take place atop an active volcano and that Vader survived a fall into lava. However, from a reality perspective, how could anyone survive even a mere moment emersed in melted rock? So I don't think that it will be lava, though lava is what many fans have expected it to be for all these years, and after the droid factory scene in AOTC, I speculated that it would be in such a factory that Vader would be severely burnt. But who knows yet? Lava, acid, melted steel? All I know for sure is that I can't wait for May 19, 2005. I already know too much about the next movie and after spoiling myself for the last 3 episodes I had vowed to remain spoiler free for this one. Shows you how weak I am. Maybe I'll go to a hypnotist before seeing Revenge of the Sith to have him erase from my memory everything that I know about the film so I'll be surprised.

[julix]

14th colony....It is funny you are trying to remain spoiler free, my hubby is doing the same thing(not me). Although being a SW fan and being on the boards he gets some info anyway not as much as we both did for the last two movies. I read the book for episode two before the movie because I was tempted by the dark side!!!Ha Ha.The book is very good by the way. I have actually never heard the valcano story, I have always heard it was lava. BST It is not from a book that I know of, just a common belief amongst fans...if you guys look you can see pictures that Rowan posted that look like Hayden and it looks like he had fallen in something. 14th let me know how the hypnotism goes.......... :D

[Charybdis]

I do have a bit of news about the revealing of Luke to Vader. Supposedly, in the Special Special Edition of the trilogy that will be released on DVD this September, the scene in Empire STrikes Back where Vader talks to the Emperor aboard his Star Destroyer has been redone using Ian McDairmid as the Emperor. (Ian was the Emperor in Return of the Jedi and the rest of the movies). IN this new scene, he tells Vader that the rebel who destroyed the Death Star is none other than Luke Skywalker, Vader's son! That's how Vader confirms that he does have a son...

[The 14th Colony]

14th colony....It is funny you are trying to remain spoiler free, my hubby is doing the same thing(not me). Although being a SW fan and being on the boards he gets some info anyway not as much as we both did for the last two movies. I read the book for episode two before the movie because I was tempted by the dark side!!!Ha Ha.The book is very good by the way. I have actually never heard the valcano story, I have always heard it was lava. BST It is not from a book that I know of, just a common belief amongst fans...if you guys look you can see pictures that Rowan posted that look like Hayden and it looks like he had fallen in something. 14th let me know how the hypnotism goes.......... :D
I have actually never heard the valcano story, I have always heard it was lava.
Silly girl, volcanos spew lava! :laugh: ;)
I have never gotten to see a SW movie unspoiled and I so wish I could. When ANH came out I had to read the book first because my parents procrastinated taking me to see it. Before I saw TESB my dang art teacher ruined it for me by informing me that Vader was Luke's deadbeat dad (no, Homer Simpson was not my art teacher). Then after waiting on the edge of my seat for ROTJ to come out, the night before opening day I purchased Ralph McQuarrie's art book, the photo storybook, and the novel. By the next day I knew enough about the film to be spoiled completely. So, for 16 years I vowed that I would go into the new SW episode unspoiled, though in the 9 months before TPM I found out way too much and went into that film knowing the main points, characters, and locations of the film. Afterward I vowed that for Episode II I would achieve my goal of going in not knowing what to expect. But alas, the internet message boards (Jedinet, to be exact) made it too easy to find out the main points of the story. This time, however, I was determined to stay away from plot points. This is the only episode in 24 years that most people know pretty much what is going to happen for certain, but still, I want to avoid the fine details as much as I can. Alas, the dark side, the quick and easy path, beckons to me despite my willpower. :eek:

But frak! I already know how the film is going to end, what new characters are involved, how one of the baddest assed Jedi in history is going to meet his end, what major new(?) starship is going to play a major role, how the film is going to begin, and at least what 2 big story elements are going to be. :wtf:

[The 14th Colony]

I do have a bit of news about the revealing of Luke to Vader. Supposedly, in the Special Special Edition of the trilogy that will be released on DVD this September, the scene in Empire STrikes Back where Vader talks to the Emperor aboard his Star Destroyer has been redone using Ian McDairmid as the Emperor. (Ian was the Emperor in Return of the Jedi and the rest of the movies). IN this new scene, he tells Vader that the rebel who destroyed the Death Star is none other than Luke Skywalker, Vader's son! That's how Vader confirms that he does have a son...
I've read this as well. But I still wonder if prior to that conversation, that Vader already knew regardless.

[The 14th Colony]

Here is a good discussion regarding the new DVDs and all the changes that are being done with the Ultimate Editions:
http://www.galacticsenate.com/index.php?showtopic=7566&st=40

[julix]

!4th....."silly girl volcanos spew lava".............................All I can say is :blush: :blush: :blush: whoops! I had also heard all the details on the special edition of Star Wars trilogy and I know quite a bit about episode three. I think if you are a fan and you are alive you are gonna hear details! :D

[Raymar3d]

All I hope is that if they call it "Revenge of the Sith" that we learn why they were seeking revenge, perhaps some actual backstory that isn't about trade disputes.... LOL.

Seriously though, my prediction is Darth Vader will appear in the last five minutes of the film. No Vader hunting down and destroying the Jedi, at least not the Vader as we know him. If anything, it will be Anakin doing it until Obi-Wan beats him at the end and he wakes up on the operating table and sees his fate.

That's my prediction.

What I hope for is that that stuff happens earlier in the film and we get some serious Darth Vader classic time.

Time will tell.

Ken

Humorous alternative: Darth-Darth Binks and Anakin in the Emperor's chamber....

"Strike him down, and take your place at my side!"

"But, Massa, Meesa did what you said!"

Audience cheers, "Do it!!!!"

Anakin strikes down the evil reincarnated spirit of Darth Maul, now residing inside the body of Jar-Jar Binks.

[Rowan]

Ken I have to say I love your avatar it's one of my most favorite!

I love your idea for the humorous alternative that made me laugh! ;) :D

[Raymar3d]

Ken I have to say I love your avatar it's one of my most favorite!


Why, thank you!

That's my suit of armor. If you're into fantasy, check out my website. I'm trying to make a film, plus get a Neverwinter Nights playable computer game module/persistent world up and running on a regular basis, but I will be needing players.

I'm glad you liked the darth-darth binks gag. I was also thinking of turning Yoda to the dark side.

Darth Small

LOL,

Ken

[Rowan]

Why, thank you! Your very welcome! I kept hoping you'd show up so I could tell you that it was just a matter of being patient! ;) :D

That's my suit of armor.You mean it's a real suit of armor? If you're into fantasy, I love fantasy I spend half my time living in my head ;) check out my website. I did very cool! I had no idea who I was talking to, your very talented Ken! I'm as much of a fan of those who make my fantasy worlds come to life as I am of the actors who star in them! I don't know what I'd do without my Sci-Fi/Fantasy! I'm trying to make a film, plus get a Neverwinter Nights playable computer game module/persistent world up and running on a regular basis, but I will be needing players.:eek: ok you lost me there! LOL!

I'm glad you liked the darth-darth binks gag. I was also thinking of turning Yoda to the dark side. I did I was laughing quite at bit at that one!:D

Darth Small LOL! poor Yoda!

LOL,

Ken

[julix]

Ken, there is a back story to the sith/jedi dispute...but I will have to ask hubby he is my main source of detailed info.......I will find out! I will also have my hubby check out your website he is a big PC gammer!

[Raymar3d]

Rowan,

Here's a link to my info about the game mod I'm working on: http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4870

In a nutshell, Neverwinter Nights is a computer version of Dungeons and Dragons, in which players can assume the role of a character that is a fighter or a sorceror or a druid or a cleric (healer/priest) or other types of careers. Very much in the vein of Lord of the Rings. Much of Dungeons and Dragons was originally based on Lord of the Rings.

The cool thing about Neverwinter Nights, or NWN is that players can also be what is called a Dungeon Master, someone who controls all the creatures and plot of the game. And, you can create your own art and storyline and make your own 'mods' which are basically maps and fill them with monsters.

It's a ton of fun. I've been really hoping some people from here would take some interest, there are a lot of people I've known here for years that I've talked with about Demonslayers, and now I'm trying to show off some of it, so I'm hoping (hint, hint) that they'll come see what it's all about, LOL!

I've even posted some of the storyline.

Sincerely,

Ken

P.S. This is a Star Wars thread, so just so I stay on topic, I even made a Star Wars film in 1978, called "Star Wars: The Return of Darth Vader." Technically, it would be Episode 4.1 in sequence, because it takes place right after Vader spins off away from the Death Star. I'll save the rest of that story for later.

[Rowan]

Rowan,

Here's a link to my info about the game mod I'm working on: http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4870
Cool, thank you very much I'll check it out!

In a nutshell, Neverwinter Nights is a computer version of Dungeons and Dragons, in which players can assume the role of a character that is a fighter or a sorceror or a druid or a cleric (healer/priest) or other types of careers. ah, ok Very much in the vein of Lord of the Rings. Much of Dungeons and Dragons was originally based on Lord of the Rings.I didn't realise this.

The cool thing about Neverwinter Nights, or NWN is that players can also be what is called a Dungeon Master, someone who controls all the creatures and plot of the game. And, you can create your own art and storyline and make your own 'mods' which are basically maps and fill them with monsters. Ok the dungeon master thing I've never quit understood how that works but have been curious about it for years. I'll have to make the effort to look into it and learn a little more.

It's a ton of fun. I've been really hoping some people from here would take some interest, there are a lot of people I've known here for years that I've talked with about Demonslayers, and now I'm trying to show off some of it, so I'm hoping (hint, hint) that they'll come see what it's all about, LOL!;) ok I'll take your hint and come see

I've even posted some of the storyline.

Sincerely,

Ken
Thanks Ken :D