Pegasus Movie

[Winemaster]

If Glen Larson announced a Pegasus movie was being made, would CFF support this?
What if it was a Pegasus movie based on elements of TOS but not TOS?

[Titon]

I'd support anything based on the TOS timeline and events although Glen has been already turned down many times concerning a Pegasus storyline. But ya never know.

;)

[Eric Paddon]

"Elements" of TOS would not be acceptable to me. The only movie project I would support would be a true continuation of TOS and only if a Pegasus movie were tied in to TOS in terms of continuity would I give it a chance. After the Moore experience absolutely nothing else will satisfy at this point. The reinventors and "elements only" faction has had their turn, and now it is time for the continuation in the true sense to take place.

[kingfish]

Being a fan of Cain, I would gladly accept a Pegasus movie. As far as elements of tos in it, get Dirk to play Cain. He could pull it off.

[kingfish]

If Glen Larson announced a Pegasus movie was being made, would CFF support this?
What if it was a Pegasus movie based on elements of TOS but not TOS?



At one time I remember an IMAX Pegasus movie being mentioned and a possible trailer being shot.

[braxiss]

living legend are my favorite two episodes. so i would jump at a chance to for cain and the pegasus to return

[amberstar]

Yes I'd support it. I had always thought that TOS hinted toward's Cains return anyway :)

The evil count told Sheba that she would see her father again :)

[thomas7g]

Glen Larson seems to have a slightly stronger legal claim on the Battlestar Pegasus storyline and characters than he does with the Battlestar Galactica story and characters. That would help cause I'm positive Universal would sue to get the profits no matter what movie he tried to make.

I think that's why he wanted to do a Pegasus movie instead. But that's just my guessing.

I would happily take it. I prefer a Battlestar Pegasus to the Moore storyline.

[braxiss]

I would happily take it. I prefer a Battlestar Pegasus to the Moore storyline.


i agree, that ron moore thing is :thumbdown

[KJ]

Same here! By the way, Titon it's been a few years now. Without any sucking up or anything to ya dude. Is there anytime in the future we'd see the conclusion to your KICKASS Battlestar Millenia story.

It was great then and it's still great now. I think it's great, this fanbase own efforts match that of the dreams we all have, of seeing either a DeSanto Galactica or Larson Galactica movie/series.

Seems we fans know, what we want.

KJ

[peter noble]

Personally, I could only watch a Pegasus story if it had an original cast member in, ie Dirk as Starbuck.

IMHO, Dirk is the most recognised actor in the show and people still remember him as Starbuck and Face.

If they did a Pegasus movie he'd be the commander, taking over from the deceased Cain, the Pegasus having rescued him from Planet Starbuck yahrens before.

And yeah, he'd have rebuilt Cy with parts from the destroyed Cylons so you'd still get their repartee over the course of the movie!

Best,

Peter

[Titon]

Jason, i wish i had the time to be honest with you. I really liked that idea but presently with my company and cgi work taking up so much of my time it's nearly impossible to generate anything. I hope to continue it when things die down again.

Thanks for the interest though, i really appreciate it.

:)

[BST]

Personally, I could only watch a Pegasus story if it had an original cast member in, ie Dirk as Starbuck.

IMHO, Dirk is the most recognised actor in the show and people still remember him as Starbuck and Face.

If they did a Pegasus movie he'd be the commander, taking over from the deceased Cain, the Pegasus having rescued him from Planet Starbuck yahrens before.

And yeah, he'd have rebuilt Cy with parts from the destroyed Cylons so you'd still get their repartee over the course of the movie!

Best,

Peter

I agree. Even though he would make an excellent commander of the Pegasus, I would prefer it as Commander Starbuck, NOT as Commander Cain. If Cain is to be re-cast and although Lloyd Bridges gave heart and soul to that role, I could deal with a very thoughtful re-casting of the Cain role. Same as with Adama.

Regarding "Cy", oooooohhhhhhhh, think of the fun, having a Cylon centurion as one of the crew of the Pegasus. If Cain is not re-cast, the "old war daggit" would be spinning in his grave!!

[KJ]

If Rod Haase is still alive and kicking somewhere. Commander Tolan would seem correct wouldn't it. I think that would be the most logical answer. Ironically enough first time poor Tolan took command of the Pegasus it was destroyed in Maximum Press's comics story 'Journey's End' rammed to destruction by dozens of Cylon Raiders.

Tolan is my choice.

If the role of Cain were to be recast though. Gene Hackman as Commander Cain wouldn't seem half bad at all. Hackman is one of those actors that can't be typecasted or pigeonholed into any role he does. He is also one of those actors who has played military types before because he once did so, himself serve in the military.

Lloyd Bridges role as Cain was very powerful. Even if the Battlestar Galactica series back in 1978 wasn't cancelled and had lasted 4 or 5 seasons untill 1982-83. And Cain had made several appearances. His first appearance was iconic, thus if the role MUST be recasted, only a powerful actor like Gene Hackman can/could step into his shoes.

If Glen Larson announced a Pegasus movie was being made, would CFF support this? What if it was a Pegasus movie based on elements of TOS but not TOS?

Larson could adapt Maximum Press's 'War Of Eden' story and reverse the Galactica finding Earth 'part' and make it the Pegasus instead. Or Adam Stacey's fictional, second season stories (involving the Pegasus)

There are sooo... many avenues to go down, hundreds of ideas! It's like Robert Zemeckis's quote in the 'Back To The Future' DVD documentary. Once you've done a successful film everyone's done the sequel in their minds/heads! (Not the exact quote but near enough.)

This popular series has given birth to countless movie/TV ideas so a 'Pegasus' movie spinoff direction is almost endless.

KJ

:cool:

[kingfish]

Jason, I believe they intended for Cain to find Earth after he destroyed the two Basestars at the end of LL.

[KJ]

Yeah but the Pegasus was left in Gamoray space (kryillain star system to be exact) How did Cain bypassed all those Cylon outposts and get to Earth before the Galactica. That would be too convenient for the Pegasus spinoff storyline. But then again maybe a Pegasus movie should have most of the story focus on the adventure through 90% of the movie and have the ship reach earth in the last 25 minutes for the end of the picture.

Like i said if they were to recast the right actor in the lead role of Cain. Yeah we'd all see a Pegasus movie spin off done that way. But if Larson didn't recast Cain. Then the rightful next commander of the sister ship of the Galactica should be 'Colonel Tolan'.

Starbuck, Sheba and maybe even Bo -Jay have all been named somewhat as the Battlestar Pegasus next Commander. I just happen to like, strict continuity is all.

Even Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto didn't follow continuity or have a strong chain-of-command type of link in their story, by having Sheba be the Pegasus commander just because it's her father ship. It's like DeSanto saying he'd have Orin i.e. Boxey be the Commander of the Galactica in his version. That i didn't agree on at all. (maybe it was done because, Universal didn't want to use Richard Hatch?)

Yeah i'd love to see a DeSanto BG more than anything or a Hatch BG:SC or Larson Pegasus movie, in light of the crapola on offer right now!. But i'd like to see some logic in a revival or spin off, not just popular characters in command positions just because a family member had a top high ranking command position is all.

KJ

:salute:

[shiningstar]

Yeah but the Pegasus was left in Gamoray space (kryillain star system to be exact) How did Cain bypassed all those Cylon outposts and get to Earth before the Galactica. That would be too convenient for the Pegasus spinoff storyline. But then again maybe a Pegasus movie should have most of the story focus on the adventure through 90% of the movie and have the ship reach earth in the last 25 minutes for the end of the picture.

Like i said if they were to recast the right actor in the lead role of Cain. Yeah we'd all see a Pegasus movie spin off done that way. But if Larson didn't recast Cain. Then the rightful next commander of the sister ship of the Galactica should be 'Colonel Tolan'.

Starbuck, Sheba and maybe even Bo -Jay have all been named somewhat as the Battlestar Pegasus next Commander. I just happen to like, strict continuity is all.

Even Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto didn't follow continuity or have a strong chain-of-command type of link in their story, by having Sheba be the Pegasus commander just because it's her father ship. It's like DeSanto saying he'd have Orin i.e. Boxey be the Commander of the Galactica in his version. That i didn't agree on at all. (maybe it was done because, Universal didn't want to use Richard Hatch?)

Yeah i'd love to see a DeSanto BG more than anything or a Hatch BG:SC or Larson Pegasus movie, in light of the crapola on offer right now!. But i'd like to see some logic in a revival or spin off, not just popular characters in command positions just because a family member had a top high ranking command position is all.

KJ

:salute:

I agree with Colonel Tolan being the rightful commander of the Pegasus if
they don't recast Cain. Personally I think Dennis Hopper would make
a TERRIFIC commander Cain.

[KJ]

If anything Larson, really should have released his Battlestar Atlantis trailer which involves the Pegasus finding Earth (before the Galactica somehow) and finding the Battlestar Atlantis. The fans would have gotten a idea at his version of a Galactica spin off. Had he shown it to the Galactica fans. By making it downloadable online or showing it a convention like ComicCon, Wizardworld or DragonCon event even!

The year 2000 wasn't that long ago, does the trailer still exist somewhere?

Maybe with enough prodding Larson will cough up the goods. Then again, with Larson getting hold of Lost footage isn't easy, i.e. the deleted Cloven Hooves footage, Starbuck storms the Galactica bridge during the pilot, Starbuck catching Apollo at the end of "Hand Of God" etc.

Why wasn't or why didn't Larson play the Atlantis trailer at Galacticon last year! Is it actually good enough to be shown, is it long enough (i heard it only a minute long) or is Glen Larson redoing the trailer and saving it for a later use.

Perhaps yet another issue the Battlestar Galactica fanbase at "CFF" should take up hmmm?

KJ

[shiningstar]

If anything Larson, really should have released his Battlestar Atlantis trailer which involves the Pegasus finding Earth (before the Galactica somehow) and finding the Battlestar Atlantis. The fans would have gotten a idea at his version of a Galactica spin off. Had he shown it to the Galactica fans. By making it downloadable online or showing it a convention like ComicCon, Wizardworld or DragonCon event even!

The year 2000 wasn't that long ago, does the trailer still exist somewhere?

Maybe with enough prodding Larson will cough up the goods. Then again, with Larson getting hold of Lost footage isn't easy, i.e. the deleted Cloven Hooves footage, Starbuck storms the Galactica bridge during the pilot, Starbuck catching Apollo at the end of "Hand Of God" etc.

Why wasn't or why didn't Larson play the Atlantis trailer at Galacticon last year! Is it actually good enough to be shown, is it long enough (i heard it only a minute long) or is Glen Larson redoing the trailer and saving it for a later use.

Perhaps yet another issue the Battlestar Galactica fanbase at "CFF" should take up hmmm?

KJ

I so agree KJ

[Winemaster]

I wonder if copyright issues with Todd Moyer prevents him from showing the trailer.
Does anyone know if the Pegasus was to make contact with Earth leaders and do the people of Earth get involed in the recovery of the Battlestar Atlantis?

[shiningstar]

I wonder if copyright issues with Todd Moyer prevents him from showing the trailer.
Does anyone know if the Pegasus was to make contact with Earth leaders and do the people of Earth get involed in the recovery of the Battlestar Atlantis?

The people of EARTH would want to be involved in the recovery of
the Battlestar Atlantis. I know if it were me who the crew of
the Pegasus made contact with ..........I'd go after the battlestar Atlantis
and have it manned by a EARTH crew so the people on EARTH would
(without knowing or necessarily believing the colonials) have their
own battlestar and therefore being on a equal footing with our 'Allies
or would be conquerors'.

[Archangel]

The people of EARTH would want to be involved in the recovery of
the Battlestar Atlantis. I know if it were me who the crew of
the Pegasus made contact with ..........I'd go after the battlestar Atlantis
and have it manned by a EARTH crew so the people on EARTH would
(without knowing or necessarily believing the colonials) have their
own battlestar and therefore being on a equal footing with our 'Allies
or would be conquerors'.
So you would have a ship manned by a bunch of people are from a society that is the technological equivelent of Cro-Magnons? An earth-human would probably have as good of chance of blowing it up than getting it to fly straight. :D

[kingfish]

I agree with Colonel Tolan being the rightful commander of the Pegasus if
they don't recast Cain. Personally I think Dennis Hopper would make
a TERRIFIC commander Cain.


Dennis Hopper. :eek:

[shiningstar]

Dennis Hopper. :eek:

OKKKKKKKKKKKKK ;)

WHO would you LIKE? :D

[Winemaster]

It doesn't have to be earth of our present. It could be a future Earth

[shiningstar]

It doesn't have to be earth of our present. It could be a future Earth

That sounds good too Winemaster!

[Stray Viper]

My thoughts on Pegasus reaching Earth before the Galactica: the Cylons are pursuing the Galactica, the Pegasus is presumed destroyed. They are not chasing it. Also, the Pegasus can cruise at full speed; the Galactica was always held back by the slowest ships in the rag-tag fleet. I think those two factors alone would be enough reasoning to suggest that the Pegasus, unharassed and alone, can find Earth first and prepare it for the coming war.

If successful, a story like this can generate pressure on TPTB to get the Galactica TOS storyline and make it happen.

[amberstar]

My thoughts on Pegasus reaching Earth before the Galactica: the Cylons are pursuing the Galactica, the Pegasus is presumed destroyed. They are not chasing it. Also, the Pegasus can cruise at full speed; the Galactica was always held back by the slowest ships in the rag-tag fleet. I think those two factors alone would be enough reasoning to suggest that the Pegasus, unharassed and alone, can find Earth first and prepare it for the coming war.

If successful, a story like this can generate pressure on TPTB to get the Galactica TOS storyline and make it happen.

Sounds good to me :D

[shiningstar]

My thoughts on Pegasus reaching Earth before the Galactica: the Cylons are pursuing the Galactica, the Pegasus is presumed destroyed. They are not chasing it. Also, the Pegasus can cruise at full speed; the Galactica was always held back by the slowest ships in the rag-tag fleet. I think those two factors alone would be enough reasoning to suggest that the Pegasus, unharassed and alone, can find Earth first and prepare it for the coming war.

If successful, a story like this can generate pressure on TPTB to get the Galactica TOS storyline and make it happen.

I agree with you. On this. I think Pegasus would do well to find Earth First.

[KJ]

Damn forgot about that little fact Stray Viper. Thanks for the reminder.

kJ

[shiningstar]

I just wanted to say KingJason .........I just love your Darth Maul Avatar:thumbsup:

[Stray Viper]

And won't that just be awesome: the Pegasus storyline, finding Earth, overcoming obstacles, perhaps even facing new enemies; and preparing Earth for the coming war. All this leading up to the grand moment when the Galactica at last arrives. Can you imagine the preview? A brief glimpse of the approaching Galactica, Apollo and Starbuck on the bridge ... the music ... awesome! And the Cylons come on the heels of the Galactica and the war rages on!

[The 14th Colony]

If anything Larson, really should have released his Battlestar Atlantis trailer which involves the Pegasus finding Earth (before the Galactica somehow) and finding the Battlestar Atlantis. The fans would have gotten a idea at his version of a Galactica spin off. Had he shown it to the Galactica fans. By making it downloadable online or showing it a convention like ComicCon, Wizardworld or DragonCon event even!

The year 2000 wasn't that long ago, does the trailer still exist somewhere?

Maybe with enough prodding Larson will cough up the goods. Then again, with Larson getting hold of Lost footage isn't easy, i.e. the deleted Cloven Hooves footage, Starbuck storms the Galactica bridge during the pilot, Starbuck catching Apollo at the end of "Hand Of God" etc.

Why wasn't or why didn't Larson play the Atlantis trailer at Galacticon last year! Is it actually good enough to be shown, is it long enough (i heard it only a minute long) or is Glen Larson redoing the trailer and saving it for a later use.

Perhaps yet another issue the Battlestar Galactica fanbase at "CFF" should take up hmmm?

KJ
How could the Atantis be found? It was destroyed along with the rest of the fleet. Adama never saw the Pegasus destroyed in the first Cylon attack so it was a nice surprise when it later turned up intact. But he did see the Atlantis blown to pieces as did we.

[shiningstar]

How could the Atantis be found? It was destroyed along with the rest of the fleet. Adama never saw the Pegasus destroyed in the first Cylon attack so it was a nice surprise when it later turned up intact. But he did see the Atlantis blown to pieces as did we.

I think he's trying to say that there are two Atlantis's .....although
unless the Atlantis that was destroyed before our eyes was in fact
Atlantis "I" .......then it should have been labled Atlantis "I" instead
of just Atlantis.

So I can see BOTH points of view here ;)

[Dawg]

Sorry to disrupt the discussion, boys and girls, but it was the Atlantia that was destroyed in Saga. Not the Atlantis.

Perhaps if the Atlantis was the battlestar that accompanied the 13th tribe to Earth...........

:blink:

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[shiningstar]

Sorry to disrupt the discussion, boys and girls, but it was the Atlantia that was destroyed in Saga. Not the Atlantis.

Perhaps if the Atlantis was the battlestar that accompanied the 13th tribe to Earth...........

:blink:

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

DAWG ......you didn't DISRUPT the discussion ........You resolved it ;)

Thanks I get the Atlantia and Atlantis mixed up all the time :P:

[The 14th Colony]

DAWG ......you didn't DISRUPT the discussion ........You resolved it ;)

Thanks I get the Atlantia and Atlantis mixed up all the time :P:
It's the first mix up for me. I didn't know there were two ships with similar names. So, Atlantis was a battlestar that brought the 13th tribe to Earth? Is that from the novel, or mentioned in the series?

[KJ]

Perhaps if the Atlantis was the battlestar that accompanied the 13th tribe to Earth...........

Strange, because Battlestars weren't built until the war with the Cylons? The Galactica itself wasn't bulit until 500 years into the war (See: The Hand of God) Or Battlestars themselves weren't built until 500 during the war with the Cylon Empire.

Also the journey to Earth wasn't discussed in Living Legend. So Cain and his crew, are not aware of the co-ordinates to Earth, which were given to Apollo, Starbuck and Sheba in "War Of The Gods".

If we were to get a Pegasus movie, i'd just like a strong sense of continuity is all! How many times have we seen a great movie but there is always glaring continuity errors? like Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan? Chekov wasn't in season 1 of ST:TOS but Khan said he saw him. Even Nicholas Meyer said he goofed up on that.

It's the first mix up for me. I didn't know there were two ships with similar names. So, Atlantis was a battlestar that brought the 13th tribe to Earth? Is that from the novel, or mentioned in the series?

Just Larson's plot point idea he created for his movie concept, 14th colony.

[justjackrandom]

If we were to get a Pegasus movie, i'd just like a strong sense of continuity is all! How many times have we seen a great movie but there is always glaring continuity errors? like Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan? Chekov wasn't in season 1 of ST:TOS but Khan said he saw him. Even Nicholas Meyer said he goofed up on that.

And we probably won't get good continuity. That's why I have a love/hate relationship with the idea of a continuation. I desperately want one, but am probably not going to be happy with it...

JJR

[KJ]

True, sometimes it's right to avoid it but other times you just wish it was there, being ever present.

I, Robot is a good film but only uses the loose framework of the Asimov i, Robot short story books! even the Trek films have continuity goofs. (see ST: First Contact about the first Human/Vulcan meeting?)


I desperately want one, but am probably not going to be happy with it...

You, me and millions of other Galactica fans the world over! you know, the ones Universal execs would have everyone else believe, don't exist.

KJ

P.S. Nice avatar, if it's a fan made Battlestar insignia. Which Battlestar would you have it be? One with a Galactica emblem but with a sword, nice touch.

:salute:

[KJ]

I also like Dawg's avatar. even though, SFX were done to show the other Battlestars in the window of that shot. i can't help feeling Colla's deleted other 3 hours worth of footage would have shown, the other Battlestars in simlar shots before and during the 'Battle of Cimtar'. Colla version of the pilot was interupted by Larson and ABC for colla left after 28 days on the pilot.

After all, there are still many continuity errors within the pilot. Why have background dialog of the other ships names and not show them? why does Omega state the Galactica is the last Battlestar mere moments after the audience sees the Galactica leave the Triton, Pacifica and Acropolis to go to Caprica.

Maybe it's just me, but like alot of fans. I see on little thing and try to draw many conclusions from it. It's a beautiful shot and great scene when Adama and Adar gaze out the window to see the fleet of battlestars.

Nice avatar, Dawg.

KJ

[justjackrandom]

P.S. Nice avatar, if it's a fan made Battlestar insignia. Which Battlestar would you have it be? One with a Galactica emblem but with a sword, nice touch.

Thanks. After seeing what is being hailed as the Atlantia's emblem being one kind of design over another, I decided that this would work for some of the other Battlestars as well. Following the costumers lead, I combined the Galactica’s patch with a modified patch of the U.S. Army’s Maneuver Support Center.

Its either for Red Squadron of the Pacifica or the Triton, I haven’t decided…or maybe one of the “missing” battlestars. It’s a preliminary idea for the fan continuation project I’m working on. I’m also playing with designs for the other patches.

JJR

[goldcenturian]

Hi all!
I found a story line at Adam Stacey's site that does make Starbuck a part of the PEGASUS crew and then a commander in his own right of a new Battlestar, the MILLENNIA. The fanfic stories are titled The Undefeated: A Hero Reborn, The Lost Battlestar and Against the Odds.
If anyone's interested the address is www.msu.edu/user/stacey/Galactica/gal-fanfic.htm

Good story. The characters are identifiable and the writing's good.
My .02 worth,
Carolyn