Basestar or Baseship??

[Phoenix]

Ok guys and gals, which is it really?? I've seen Basestar in text here and there, but hear Baseship on the show. I know they're the same thing, but which title is prefered? :cylon::cylon::cylon:

[amberstar]

Really I think Basestar is from Star wars, and baseship is more Galactica.

[Phoenix]

Really I think Basestar is from Star wars, and baseship is more Galactica.


That's "Deathstar" Amber. I've scoured this net of ours, links, DVD screenshots, anything and everything with BSG I looked at over the past few months and I've seen PDF documents for what looks like a game of some sort and it has Basestar and not Baseship. I know I've read Basestar on more than one occasion, I just wondered why it has 2 names when you only hear one in the show. :salute:

[amberstar]

:eek: Sorry about that, must be having another blonde moment!

Don't tell our Dark Jedi on me :duck:

[Phoenix]

Nah, you're secret's safe with me. :naughty:

[amberstar]

Nah, you're secret's safe with me. :naughty:

Thanks Phoenix! That was a major mess up on my part............
I'm looking around for some info , I''ll see what I can dig up for you ;)

[amberstar]

I found some good links that you may enjoy:

This tech manual is really neat:

http://www.tecr.com/galactica/index.html


another was questions about BSG:

http://www.kobol.com/archives/BG-FAQ.html

This is hosted by John Larocque so I emailed him your question. If anyone would know John might! :)

Hope these may help
Amber

[thomas7g]

Oh Amber amber amber.....

:laugh:

I think Basestar refers to the specific kind of ship it is. While Baseship refers to its function. Its their Base that is a Ship.

Like you may drive an SUV, but its also "the family car".

[Eric Paddon]

I think both terms can be used interchangably in the Galactica universe (as they are in the series) for the same reason that we have multiple terms in the navy for an aircraft carrier. It can be alternately known as a carrier, flattop etc.

[LucianG]

I agree with Eric, both seem to have been used, somewhat interchangably.

I'd have to go back to view specific scenes, but I think the Imperious Leader gives Baltar a "Baseship," but Cain said "BaseStar." I think there were other scenes where Colonials called them Baseships. Perhaps the Cylons actually called them Baseships and the Colonials called them either, since they were used to having Battle"Stars" themselves.

Now, this gives me another good reason to go back and watch those scenes again!

[Titon]

Sorry about that, must be having another blonde moment!


Thanks alot Amber! Now would you mind coming over and cleaning the spit up coffee off of my screen! :D

Cylon Basestar folks.

:)

[amberstar]

Thanks alot Amber! Now would you mind coming over and cleaning the spit up coffee off of my screen! :D

Cylon Basestar folks.

:)

Sorry Don :duck: I'm on my way ................

I really know better, Once for a piece of the pie in triva I got the winning piece because I was the one who knew the last spoken line in Return of the Jedi.

sooooooo Is there any way you all will ever let me live that down? ;)

[BST]

sooooooo Is there any way you all will ever let me live that down? ;)

Hmm, that is going to require some thought. hehehe ;) :D

[amberstar]

Hmm, that is going to require some thought. hehehe ;) :D



:D :nervous: :D

[Antelope]

For Those With the DVD set or a perfect memory (Not me):

In "Saga of A Star World" isn't there a scene where an upset Starbuck tells Athena something to the effect of how beautiful the Galactica looks against the stars until you realize it's your BASESHIP (implying that any ship one is from is a base ship)?

Is the cylon ship officially a Basestar or Baseship? Were the words interchanged by poor script writing or actor mistakes?

Is Titon saying yes it is a BASESTAR not a BASESHIP?

[Dawg]

It's Basestar.

I believe it got changed to base"ship" because of the similarity with the Star Wars "Death Star" and nobody wanted any confusion.

If you watch the scene, Starbuck comments that the Galactica makes a pretty sight etc. when "it's your base ship", meaning it's the ship he's based on.

I thought that under the circumstances the line was a little awkward.

And no, the use of Basestar/Baseship when talking of the Cylon capital ships was not terribly consistent. I chalk it up to the rushed writing in some of the episodes.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[thomas7g]

sooooooo Is there any way you all will ever let me live that down? ;)How about we add to your signature "She who singlehandly killed all the BaseStars in Star Wars"
;)

Antelope- The cylon ship is officially called a BASESTAR.

Though you are right, you can refer to your "baseship". And you are right, in that Starbuck did call the galactica his "baseship". And it really don't seem like an error.

Like in Star Trek they never created a class of ship called "flagship", but the Enterprise-D is the flagship of the Federation. And there is no specific plane called Air Force One. Its just whatever craft the US president is flying in at the time. If he is in a helicopter that helo is Air Force One.

[kingfish]

In Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Athena refers to them as Cylon Battlestars.

[thomas7g]

In Gun on Ice Planet Zero, Athena refers to them as Cylon Battlestars.
Well, that one is just plain weird. :D

[BST]

Just to add another fly to the ointment:

There was another scene, in "Living Legend", when Adama contacted Cain and tried to convince him NOT to attack the Cylons single-handedly...

Adama: "You're steering right into the heart of the Cylon baseships!"

[thomas7g]

I looked at the original movie just now, and it seems to be mostly BASESHIP. And not BaseSTAR. It could be that they started out using Baseship as a generic term for any big ship with fighters on it. Then somewhere in the series they decided to call it BASESTAR. Anyone got the first time they said BASESTAR?

[Phoenix]

Holy moley this topic got hot quick! I'm enjoying all the reading you all, thank you for your replies!

[jewels]

How about we add to your signature "She who singlehandly killed all the BaseStars in Star Wars"
;)
Ooooooo! we could do that you know! heheheheehee. Thomas is going to learn not to leave me any keys :D ever again. Don't worry Amber I won't add to your sig. ;)

Like in Star Trek they never created a class of ship called "flagship", but the Enterprise-D is the flagship of the Federation. And there is no specific plane called Air Force One. Its just whatever craft the US president is flying in at the time. If he is in a helicopter that helo is Air Force One. Thomas the Helos are usually MARINES helos so they are Marine One. (Don't ever confuse the 2 if a Marine's anywhere around). When Pres. Bush caught a ride out to that carrier on a Navy jet it was Navy One. Whether the Air Force plane is his 747 or a little Lear or Gulfstream, as soon as the president boards it, it becomes Air Force One.

<<<has read too many Tom Clancy novels.

[thomas7g]

That's odd. that's not how I heard it. Though I could be wrong. :)

:D

[amberstar]

[QUOTE=thomas7g]How about we add to your signature "She who singlehandly killed all the BaseStars in Star Wars"
;)

LoL Tom! :D After thinking about it ......... that's something I think Ill pass on. ;)

[Antelope]

Jewels is correct on the Air Force One/Marine One observation. Often the President will fly in Marine One to Andrews AFB and then get on Air Force One.

Thanks for all the Basestar/Baseship answers. It helped to explain that my confusion on the issue seems about as normal as Glen Larson's.

[Charybdis]

And here's another one for you: I think it was in Living Legend during the briefing scene in the war room, Apollo actually says "basestar" if you read his lips, but he has dubbed in "baseship" over it!! Lorne Greene does it too if my memory is correct.

I think the Death Star analogy is accurate. They wanted to avoid anything similar to Star Wars. Same reason they changed the name of Imperious Leader. Originally, I read that it was Imperial Leader, but that was the same as the Imperials in Star Wars....

[jewels]

Imperious sounds much better anyway. ;)

[Muffit]

Ok guys and gals, which is it really?? I've seen Basestar in text here and there, but hear Baseship on the show. I know they're the same thing, but which title is prefered? :cylon::cylon::cylon:I believe the politically correct phrase is, "Base Person"... http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/lilly/hmm3grin2orange.gif

[Senmut]

I have always preferred "BaseShip", myself. It was the first reference to the Cylon carriers that we heard in the pilot movie, and makes more sense. In a hurried or garbled communication, "Battlestar" and "Basestar" could be confused, somewhat like the old "starboard" and "larboard", for righ and left. So it seems best to stick to BaseShip.
Oh, just in case anyone wonders, I write it out in that odd way, because it is a word that, TMK, didn't exist pre-BSG. So, I use a unique spelling formation, for that reason.