The Deep Thoughts of 14th Colony

[The 14th Colony]

I have had a series of deep thoughts that I thought to introduce, and it is about time. Not about time that I do so as if I had been postponing it, but it is about time itself.

This is not an argument to prove that time does not exist, it is merely an exercise in deep thought. I have oft said that God is outside the realm of time, that he exists in the past, the present, and the future at the same time. While not to suggest that we are on the same level as God, I present my deep thought that maybe we too exist in a realm where there is no time, where the past, present, and future exist as one and our definition of “time” is just a translation or analyzation or perception of what we are within.

To understand this strange new concept of time or time-non-existent, we must think for a moment about light and color.

White light is the equal amount of red, green, and blue light. When we look around us outdoors under the sun we see everything illuminated by white light. Daylight is white light. Though it does not appear as "white" to us, it is nonetheless white light. White light is made up equally of the 3 main colors of the light color spectrum, red, green, and blue. Our atmosphere is hit by white light from the sun but it only allows the color blue to pass through, while red and green are deflected. That is why the sky appears blue. You can also look through specific color filters which inhibit one of the colors of white light and then see an object cast in the color of the other colors remaining in the spectrum of white light. So any or more of the primary colors of white light can be blocked to enable us to see the other two colors instead, but without such method it appears as white light and not as 3 separate colors, red, green, and blue. Just white.

We can easily see red on its own, green on its own, and blue on its own, but put them together, as in red, green, and blue light shone on the same point or along the same line, and we see only white light and not the three that comprise it. Ponder this hypothetical:

What if we compared time to color? Let us say that red was the past, green was the present, and blue was the future. In our existence we can see the red(past), green(present), and blue(future) as 3 seperate colors easily distinguishable. But what if in reality, time was like white light, equally comprised of the 3 colors blended together to exist as one? In other words, like within white light, the past, present, and future were three equal things co-existing at the same exact time with no separation, wholly unset apart from each other. But how could that be possible, one might ask? How could one accept something like that anyway? Hold that deep thought.

To understand this strange new concept of time or time-non-existent, we must think for a moment not just about light and color, but of vibration and sound.

If a tree falls in a forest but no ear is around to hear it, does it make a sound? No. The tree falling or hitting the ground makes vibrations, vibrations are detected by eardrums which translate into signals which are sent into the brain where they are understood as sound. So, if a tree falls but no eardrum is around to hear it, it makes plenty of vibrations but simply no sound. When an eardrum receives the vibrations and sends the signals into the brain for translation, the comprehension of the vibrations by the brain is that of sound. No ear to hear, plenty of vibration, absence of sound. You could argue that sound is not real at all, but merely a perception within the mind; the brain’s way of explaining to itself the meaning behind the vibrations.

We have seen that white light is made up of red, green, and blue yet we can see the red, green, or blue parts of the white light only when some natural or human-made device is used to enhance one of the 3 colors or prevent us from seeing the other two. Thus within the white light the 3 colors are indistinguishable without a means to separate them. We have also seen that sound does not exist outside the mind, but that vibrations are translated and understood as sound within the mind, ergo just our imagination. It’s all in the mind.

So to sum up, “sound” is the brain’s way of understanding vibrations, and white light appears as only one color until something is used to separate one primary color from the three to let it be visible to us. So now imagine that “time” is only one present “now” rather than comprised of past, present, and future; and we exist in a space where there is no time behind us and no time in front of us, but only the white light which includes what we understand as the red light(past), green light(present) and blue light(future) all combined as one….while we have the eardrum and brain’s equivalent of intercepting and understanding vibrations into sound; and the light filter’s equivalent of separating and sensing the 3 main colors of white light, that intercept, separate, sense, and understand the combined oneness of time-unmoving. You did not begin reading this post 3 minutes ago (or 14 minutes ago for those who are slower) from now, and you won’t finish it 30 seconds from now. You are reading it now, you began reading it now, and you finished reading it now. But the passage of time was a trick of the mind, a tool or device, to separate the first now and the third now from the present now in order to give the reading meaning. You were born right now. You reached middle age now. You were married now. You turned 16 now. You had a child now. You saw your child graduate college now. You turned 4 years old now. You saw SW:Episode III now. You grew old and lost bladder control now. You died now. A person born “40 years after” you died (now) turned 26 now. Moses saw a burning bush now. President Lincoln was shot now. You brushed your teeth now. You had your first tooth now. You got dentures now. It all happened now, not before, not later, not then, not after, but now. Except that in your mind the now of now is like white light, and there is something that separates the 3 parts of white light into red, green, and blue so that they can be distinguished and enjoyed separately, understood separately. And so time, like the sound that is understood after the vibrations are received and translated, is what is understood by living beings after the now is received and translated and the 3 aspects of it are separated to be understood. Without that understanding, time does not exist.

I conclude with another way to view this concept of absense of time in the true universe. It is sure to conjur a Spaceballs joke, but oh well. Take a video tape of a movie. You have the start of the movie, the middle, and the end. While watching the middle of the story, the beginning was the past, and the end is the future. The story told in the movie has a timeline just like real life, with a past, present, and future. But turn the tape off, eject it, and step back and look at the video in your hand. The past, present, and future in the movie all exist at the same time right before your eyes. In fact, looking at the tape alone, it has no past, present, and future. It only has the NOW which exists at the same time in front of you. It is only when you watch the movie that the seperation between past, present, and future takes on meaning; otherwise it all blends together. Now imagine that that video is the universe itself, life and existance as we know it. Now imagine stopping the film, ejecting the tape, and holding it in your hand. Right there is the past, present, and future existing at once, as NOW. Like plugging into the Matrix, you turn on your awareness of time movement only when it is translated via some device. Otherwise, it is just NOW.

Eject the tape and stare at it. See it in your mind, the beginning, middle, and end; past, present, and future, existing as now, as one.

That is all for now. See you later. Or now. It’s only a matter of time. Or is it? That was my deep thought for today. Or for now. In another time I will post another of my deep thoughts, but that I will save for another time, a time to come later. Or now. Or before.

:light:

[Rowan]

OMG I need to grab a cup of tea first hang on!;)

[BST]

Get 2 cups, Rowan!

...and throw me a rope, NOW, and I mean NOW, not LATER!! ;)

[The 14th Colony]

LOL. Was that deep thought a bit too deep, hence the need for a rope? :salute:

[Darth Marley]

You should check out the exciting field of "quantum chromodynamics."

[BST]

LOL. Was that deep thought a bit too deep, hence the need for a rope? :salute:

Oh, it was deep alright but, I actually understood what you were saying, then and now and I will in the future which, I could have condensed and just said, "NOW".

;)

[jewels]

BST, I understood 14th too.

14th that was totally cool! I want to see your theory on lightships and the dimensions they move in, sometime. I've always thought that was fun, though Madeline L'Engle is a favorite author of mine.

14th try this one: CS Lewis described how God can interact with individuals at specific moments in time: his omniprescence and omniscience really, sort of like this (forgive me, I read this in college in the late 80s so this is highly paraphrased):

God exists outside of time. He is infinate, time is finite; therefore he is outside it, over it. Eternity is larger than time as it existed before time began and will exist after it ends. To see how God can both know the future perfectly and not dictate our decisions look at time like this: Eternity is an infinite geometric plane. Time is a finite line on that plane. God overlooks the plane and can see the entire span of time. He can see each person's beginning, life and end. Better yet: because he is outside of and not limited by time he can interact with any point on that line all the way down to the levels of the atoms that make up the line--the milliseconds of one person's life.

Did you follow that? If anyone did, I'm still trying to figure out how he squished himself (infinate, and outside time) down to a single cell start in Mary's womb. I know why he did it but the "how" is just mind-bending to me.

Anyway, that's my little bit of time theory. Unless you want to know my completely untheological theory of "when" God's Eternal Kingdom starts. Hehe. It has a lot to do with God being outside time.

[jewels]

Oh, on a totally different philosophical plane, my favorite passage from Jonathan Livingston Seagull is Jonathan's parting words to Sullivan Seagull:
"If we overcome Space and Time all we will have left is Here and Now. And in the middle of Here and Now, don't you think two friends would find each other again?" (it was something close to that.)

[Muffit]

I loved that 14th! Wow, you can sit around a campfire with me /anyday/!
:muffit:

[doc834]

You know, if I had said any of that to anyone outside this forum, they would wonder what I was on. You do raise some good thought. You must have been thinking about that for a long time. I guess it was time for a huge brain dump.

[Rowan]

http://hubblesite.org/sci.d.tech/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/rgb.shtml

have fun and see how red, green and blue combine to produce white light

[BST]

http://hubblesite.org/sci.d.tech/behind_the_pictures/meaning_of_color/rgb.shtml

have fun and see how red, green and blue combine to produce white light


Cool site, Rowan.

Thanks!! :thumbsup:

[Sci-Fi]

Your assumption is there is only one universe. Read these articles: http://www.thestate.com/mld/state/news/nation/4393213.htm
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/generalscience/5mysteries_universes_020205-1.html

The religious aspect of your post will not be explored here. There are other opinions and theories that may be controversial or will upset many people.

Read the book "Timeless Reality" if you get a chance.

[The 14th Colony]

I loved that 14th! Wow, you can sit around a campfire with me /anyday/!
:muffit:
Bring the marshmellows and I'll being the deep thoughts! :laugh:

[The 14th Colony]

BST, I understood 14th too.

14th that was totally cool! I want to see your theory on lightships and the dimensions they move in, sometime. I've always thought that was fun, though Madeline L'Engle is a favorite author of mine.

God exists outside of time. He is infinate, time is finite; therefore he is outside it, over it. Eternity is larger than time as it existed before time began and will exist after it ends. To see how God can both know the future perfectly and not dictate our decisions look at time like this: Eternity is an infinite geometric plane. Time is a finite line on that plane. God overlooks the plane and can see the entire span of time. He can see each person's beginning, life and end. Better yet: because he is outside of and not limited by time he can interact with any point on that line all the way down to the levels of the atoms that make up the line--the milliseconds of one person's life.

Anyway, that's my little bit of time theory. Unless you want to know my completely untheological theory of "when" God's Eternal Kingdom starts. Hehe. It has a lot to do with God being outside time.
Yeah, I used to say that life was a movie that we the characters only see a frame at a time, but that God is the writer, director, producer, casting agent, lighting and sound tech, scenery and set designer, editor, ect., and he sees the whole movie at once. If I'm right regarding your theory about God's kingdom, it always has been and always will be.

I don't want to go too far with this concept because I have been away from the path a long time, but when I was on fire as a believer I theorized that heaven and hell exist at the same time and location as earth, much like my concept about past, present, and future coexisting, but that you could only experience one or the others at once. I compared the 3 places like alternate dimensions located in the same plane of existance. Take your television, for instance, and consider only traditional TV reception or satelite dish reception rather than cable, for this example. The TV is tuned to channel 6 and only channel 6. Yet, channel 2-99 all exist at the same time in the same place, right there where your TV is drawing channel 6 from. But you only experience channel 6 because that is what your channel knob is tuned to. You cannot see, hear, or be aware of any other channel than what your TV is set on, even though all the channels are existing at once in the same place. That was my concept for heaven, hell, and Earth, being like channels that were recieved and felt only seperately and only one at a time. Humans could only experience this "channel", because we didn't have the power of God to change the channels and see and feel the other two channels. But if God chose, he could turn a knob and suddenly we would be in Heaven or hell in an instant, because our plane of existance would be changed. Maybe that is what the rapture will be, that moment of spiritual transformation.

That concept is similar to my view of alternate dimensions and universes. There could be several, or thousands, of alternate universes overlapping each other like varied television or radio signals, existing at once in the same place, but only experience-able to matter and energy tuned to that particular universe channel. The fantastic ability to open doors connecting one alternate universe to another would bring new meaning to the Universal-Remote channel changer!

Regarding lightships and how they travel in my stories, I have ideas involving alternate dimensions, that come from one of my stories, but I'll mention that later rather than now. Or now since it's the same as later, but it'll be later before you read the now. Heh heh. ;)

[The 14th Colony]

You should check out the exciting field of "quantum chromodynamics."
As soon as mind-time permits I shall. I have lots of links to scientific pages regarding multiple dimensions and other scientific brainrains, so it's probably something I'd be interested in, if I can understand it.

[The 14th Colony]

Great links, Rowan and Sci-Fi. I've bookmarked all of them. Thanks.

[The 14th Colony]

You know, if I had said any of that to anyone outside this forum, they would wonder what I was on. You do raise some good thought. You must have been thinking about that for a long time. I guess it was time for a huge brain dump.
LMAO! I suppose that was a whopper of a brain dump. Ironically I come up with some of the craziest theories while in the bathroom. It's where I do my best thinking! :blush:

[The 14th Colony]

BTW ya all...I think deep thoughts often when I can, which isn't often, and sometimes they are deep and other times dumb, sometimes they are leaked and sometimes plumbed. I'll post my deep thoughts here from time to time. Some of my thoughts are worthy of a hurrah!, or a huh?, or a duh!, so don't expect the words of Einstien or Freud or Socrates or Hemingway every time. I'm more like a Homer Simpson philosopher. =D

[The 14th Colony]

Oh, on a totally different philosophical plane, my favorite passage from Jonathan Livingston Seagull is Jonathan's parting words to Sullivan Seagull:
"If we overcome Space and Time all we will have left is Here and Now. And in the middle of Here and Now, don't you think two friends would find each other again?" (it was something close to that.)
Cool quote. :thumbsup:

[Rowan]

Jewels you have a good memory!:D ;)


"If our friendship depends on things like space and time, then when we finally overcome space and time, we've destroyed our own brotherhood! But overcome space, and all we have left is Here. Overcome time, and all we have left is Now. And in the middle of Here and Now, don't you think that we might see each other once or twice?"

The entire book is on line at this location

http://www.42.dropbear.id.au/quotes.html

[The 14th Colony]

My my, how times flies with no replies. :cry:

[Muffit]

Hey 14th! Got a quandary for ya!


Why is it, I gotta WASH all my dishes before I put 'em in the dishwasher?
All it really is, is a place to hide the dirty dishes, that's all!

If you know, please do tell!!! :D
:muffit:

[amberstar]

Hey 14th! Got a quandary for ya!


Why is it, I gotta WASH all my dishes before I put 'em in the dishwasher?
All it really is, is a place to hide the dirty dishes, that's all!

If you know, please do tell!!! :D
:muffit:
Muffit the " Oven" works as a good hiding place when youre in a bind! :duck:

[The 14th Colony]

Hey 14th! Got a quandary for ya!


Why is it, I gotta WASH all my dishes before I put 'em in the dishwasher?
All it really is, is a place to hide the dirty dishes, that's all!

If you know, please do tell!!! :D
:muffit:
Hi Muffy, I'll be glad to answer that, but you should ask it here instead: http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?p=92543#post92543 :D

~14th, the resident answer dude and deep thunker

[Muffit]

LOL Amberstar!

Done 14th!
:muffit:

[The 14th Colony]

With no new replies to my time-seperation concept, here is a new deep thought for the day.

I have realized a potentially inevitable problem facing us in our future. Think about all the billions of tons of garbage dumped in trash dumps around the world every year. Think about all the plastic trash bags you seal closed with bubbles of air still inside and throw out. Think about all the empty glass jars and empty plastic soda bottles you throw away every day, every week, every month, every year, through your whole lifetime, but not before screwing closed the airtight lid! Do you realize how much of our air we are throwing away in tightly closed plastic bags and sealed plastic and glass bottles? Good God what are we doing?

That was my deep thought for the day. Thank you. You may go back to your business now.

[The 14th Colony]

Another deep thought cometh.

What does the world look like through the eyes of a blind person?

A blind person knows they cannot see, yet how do they know what "seeing" is? If all they have known was a world of darkness, how can they comprehend what a world of light would reveal? How do they think other people. those with full sight, see the world around them?

How do blind people dream?

How do they imagine the appearance of things they have never had sight to verify?

Do they think in color? Might their minds perceive colors our own minds could not have imagined?

Might a person blind since birth, having suddenly gained full sight, be relieved to see the world is better than they imagined...or dissappointed that it was not as fantastic as they had pre-visualized?

If future science somehow invented a way for a sighted person and a blind person to see into the other's minds to share each other's visions of the world and life itself, imagine how each person would experience the other person's visual memories compared to their own.

Imagine having a blind person work for ILM or any sci-fi special effects company, designing space ships and aliens. They would surely come up with shapes and styles we could possibly never imagine. I would be interested to see drawings of everyday objects made by blind people. Whether you can draw or not, try drawing something with your eyes closed and then look to see how close it is to another you drew with your eyes open. I wonder how close or different a drawing made by a blind person, and by a sighted person with his eyes closed, would be to each other, of the same subject.

:cool:

Sometimes, I have awoken from dreams I had trouble remembering. I couldn't recall the dream itself, yet I had vague images of something or set of things I saw, that I knew were from the dream but could not form a shape or color to the images to see what they were. Other times I've awoken with clear as crystal memories of what I saw in my dreams. But I wonder if the vague, hard to distinguish images are some of what a blind person attributes to the objects he touches, hears, or is told about. In other words, I wonder if the images he creates to identify what he knows is around him, are crystal clear, or vague and hard to define.

:cool:

Have you watched M.A.S.H.? In one episode Hawkeye Pierce was blinded by an explosion, and they didn't know if it was temporary or permanant. Pierce wanted to go back to work and assist regardless of his blindness. At the operating table where the other surgeons were stitching the insides of a severely wounded soldier, Hawkeye sensed that the perforated bowel was not fully stitched, by sense of smell. No other doctor detected it by smell, or saw the loose stitch by sight. In another, non-medical instance, it was raining and Hawkeye noted that the rain hitting the ground sounded like sizzling steak on a grill. He also was able to hear distant incoming helicopters before anyone else could (Radar was good at doing that, though he wasn't blind), and realized that without his sight all of his other senses had been highly enhanced to compensate.

So from a certain point of view, a blind person might be seeing more of the world than we ever can. Like I said, from a certain point of view.

More to come, at some point later. That's right, I did say "later", which comes now from a certain point of view.
;)

[The 14th Colony]

Ack! My deep thoughts are sinking down the page! That's too deep! :eek:

[Rowan]

14th I have been reading your deep thoughts but I only have 2 weeks break between semestes and I really need to give it (my brain) a break because it has done nothing but ache with thinking for the past several months...apologies :/:;)

[The 14th Colony]

LOL, your brain aches from deep thinking? Think of it this way, I'm keeping your brain fine-tuned for deep thought, between semesters! ;)

[Stray Viper]

With no new replies to my time-seperation concept, here is a new deep thought for the day.

I have realized a potentially inevitable problem facing us in our future. Think about all the billions of tons of garbage dumped in trash dumps around the world every year. Think about all the plastic trash bags you seal closed with bubbles of air still inside and throw out. Think about all the empty glass jars and empty plastic soda bottles you throw away every day, every week, every month, every year, through your whole lifetime, but not before screwing closed the airtight lid! Do you realize how much of our air we are throwing away in tightly closed plastic bags and sealed plastic and glass bottles? Good God what are we doing?

That was my deep thought for the day. Thank you. You may go back to your business now.

You know, it's deep thoughts like that which remind me we really need Mr. Fusion from Back to the Future!!

[Rowan]

LOL, your brain aches from deep thinking? Yes! pathophysiology killed me! :/: Think of it this way, I'm keeping your brain fine-tuned for deep thought, between semesters! ;) yes I suppose I could look at it that way but when does my little brain get a break? LOL! 14th! are you a tough task master?:D ;)

[jewels]

Jewels you have a good memory!:D ;)


"If our friendship depends on things like space and time, then when we finally overcome space and time, we've destroyed our own brotherhood! But overcome space, and all we have left is Here. Overcome time, and all we have left is Now. And in the middle of Here and Now, don't you think that we might see each other once or twice?"

The entire book is on line at this location

http://www.42.dropbear.id.au/quotes.html
Rowan, THANKS! I've always loved that book for the spirit of frienship expressed in that quote and for the idea in it of staying focused on becoming the best person you can be.

14th: I'm not as fiery a believer these days either: but my faith is deeper. That steel and gold which is tested in fire get's stronger and purer in ways we don't always expect. I find I'm more confident in whose hand I hold's inevitability of being there for me when the crisis of life tumble in. Yet I still don't feel like my relationship with God is as close as he or I would like. This present world (whatever the time and dimension) has it's distractions.

Love the deep thinkers around here. 14th if you are Homer Simpson, I must be at about Snoopy the Dog level. LOL.

[Muffit]

Ack! My deep thoughts are sinking down the page! That's too deep! :eek:
I like your reveries 14th -- sounds just like me ;)
BTW,on blindness, check out "Country of the Blind" by HG Wells. It's a real "eye-opener" :D

[Rowan]

in case your interested in art and blind people..

http://www.artagogo.com/commentary/artforblind/artforblind.htm

[shiningstar]

I have had a series of deep thoughts that I thought to introduce, and it is about time. Not about time that I do so as if I had been postponing it, but it is about time itself.

This is not an argument to prove that time does not exist, it is merely an exercise in deep thought. I have oft said that God is outside the realm of time, that he exists in the past, the present, and the future at the same time. While not to suggest that we are on the same level as God, I present my deep thought that maybe we too exist in a realm where there is no time, where the past, present, and future exist as one and our definition of “time” is just a translation or analyzation or perception of what we are within.

To understand this strange new concept of time or time-non-existent, we must think for a moment about light and color.

White light is the equal amount of red, green, and blue light. When we look around us outdoors under the sun we see everything illuminated by white light. Daylight is white light. Though it does not appear as "white" to us, it is nonetheless white light. White light is made up equally of the 3 main colors of the light color spectrum, red, green, and blue. Our atmosphere is hit by white light from the sun but it only allows the color blue to pass through, while red and green are deflected. That is why the sky appears blue. You can also look through specific color filters which inhibit one of the colors of white light and then see an object cast in the color of the other colors remaining in the spectrum of white light. So any or more of the primary colors of white light can be blocked to enable us to see the other two colors instead, but without such method it appears as white light and not as 3 separate colors, red, green, and blue. Just white.

We can easily see red on its own, green on its own, and blue on its own, but put them together, as in red, green, and blue light shone on the same point or along the same line, and we see only white light and not the three that comprise it. Ponder this hypothetical:

What if we compared time to color? Let us say that red was the past, green was the present, and blue was the future. In our existence we can see the red(past), green(present), and blue(future) as 3 seperate colors easily distinguishable. But what if in reality, time was like white light, equally comprised of the 3 colors blended together to exist as one? In other words, like within white light, the past, present, and future were three equal things co-existing at the same exact time with no separation, wholly unset apart from each other. But how could that be possible, one might ask? How could one accept something like that anyway? Hold that deep thought.

To understand this strange new concept of time or time-non-existent, we must think for a moment not just about light and color, but of vibration and sound.

If a tree falls in a forest but no ear is around to hear it, does it make a sound? No. The tree falling or hitting the ground makes vibrations, vibrations are detected by eardrums which translate into signals which are sent into the brain where they are understood as sound. So, if a tree falls but no eardrum is around to hear it, it makes plenty of vibrations but simply no sound. When an eardrum receives the vibrations and sends the signals into the brain for translation, the comprehension of the vibrations by the brain is that of sound. No ear to hear, plenty of vibration, absence of sound. You could argue that sound is not real at all, but merely a perception within the mind; the brain’s way of explaining to itself the meaning behind the vibrations.

We have seen that white light is made up of red, green, and blue yet we can see the red, green, or blue parts of the white light only when some natural or human-made device is used to enhance one of the 3 colors or prevent us from seeing the other two. Thus within the white light the 3 colors are indistinguishable without a means to separate them. We have also seen that sound does not exist outside the mind, but that vibrations are translated and understood as sound within the mind, ergo just our imagination. It’s all in the mind.

So to sum up, “sound” is the brain’s way of understanding vibrations, and white light appears as only one color until something is used to separate one primary color from the three to let it be visible to us. So now imagine that “time” is only one present “now” rather than comprised of past, present, and future; and we exist in a space where there is no time behind us and no time in front of us, but only the white light which includes what we understand as the red light(past), green light(present) and blue light(future) all combined as one….while we have the eardrum and brain’s equivalent of intercepting and understanding vibrations into sound; and the light filter’s equivalent of separating and sensing the 3 main colors of white light, that intercept, separate, sense, and understand the combined oneness of time-unmoving. You did not begin reading this post 3 minutes ago (or 14 minutes ago for those who are slower) from now, and you won’t finish it 30 seconds from now. You are reading it now, you began reading it now, and you finished reading it now. But the passage of time was a trick of the mind, a tool or device, to separate the first now and the third now from the present now in order to give the reading meaning. You were born right now. You reached middle age now. You were married now. You turned 16 now. You had a child now. You saw your child graduate college now. You turned 4 years old now. You saw SW:Episode III now. You grew old and lost bladder control now. You died now. A person born “40 years after” you died (now) turned 26 now. Moses saw a burning bush now. President Lincoln was shot now. You brushed your teeth now. You had your first tooth now. You got dentures now. It all happened now, not before, not later, not then, not after, but now. Except that in your mind the now of now is like white light, and there is something that separates the 3 parts of white light into red, green, and blue so that they can be distinguished and enjoyed separately, understood separately. And so time, like the sound that is understood after the vibrations are received and translated, is what is understood by living beings after the now is received and translated and the 3 aspects of it are separated to be understood. Without that understanding, time does not exist.

I conclude with another way to view this concept of absense of time in the true universe. It is sure to conjur a Spaceballs joke, but oh well. Take a video tape of a movie. You have the start of the movie, the middle, and the end. While watching the middle of the story, the beginning was the past, and the end is the future. The story told in the movie has a timeline just like real life, with a past, present, and future. But turn the tape off, eject it, and step back and look at the video in your hand. The past, present, and future in the movie all exist at the same time right before your eyes. In fact, looking at the tape alone, it has no past, present, and future. It only has the NOW which exists at the same time in front of you. It is only when you watch the movie that the seperation between past, present, and future takes on meaning; otherwise it all blends together. Now imagine that that video is the universe itself, life and existance as we know it. Now imagine stopping the film, ejecting the tape, and holding it in your hand. Right there is the past, present, and future existing at once, as NOW. Like plugging into the Matrix, you turn on your awareness of time movement only when it is translated via some device. Otherwise, it is just NOW.

Eject the tape and stare at it. See it in your mind, the beginning, middle, and end; past, present, and future, existing as now, as one.

That is all for now. See you later. Or now. It’s only a matter of time. Or is it? That was my deep thought for today. Or for now. In another time I will post another of my deep thoughts, but that I will save for another time, a time to come later. Or now. Or before.

:light:

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm SOunds like you're reading up on your Einstein
with a little of Murphy's law added in. Either way I like YOUR WAY
of thinking!

Keep posting 14th Colony! :thumbups:

[Crewmember]

With no new replies to my time-seperation concept, here is a new deep thought for the day.

I have realized a potentially inevitable problem facing us in our future. Think about all the billions of tons of garbage dumped in trash dumps around the world every year. Think about all the plastic trash bags you seal closed with bubbles of air still inside and throw out. Think about all the empty glass jars and empty plastic soda bottles you throw away every day, every week, every month, every year, through your whole lifetime, but not before screwing closed the airtight lid! Do you realize how much of our air we are throwing away in tightly closed plastic bags and sealed plastic and glass bottles? Good God what are we doing?Well, not very much, in terms of the problem as presented. Consider: if the entire surface of the planet, including oceans, were covered with a hundred-foot deep layer of sealed plastic garbage, how much of the atmosphere would be thus tied up? A tiny fraction of one percent.
That's not to say that that much sealed garbage wouldn't present a bit of a problem! Just that loss of atmosphere wouldn't necessarily be the worst facet.
:salute:

[shiningstar]

Well, not very much, in terms of the problem as presented. Consider: if the entire surface of the planet, including oceans, were covered with a hundred-foot deep layer of sealed plastic garbage, how much of the atmosphere would be thus tied up? A tiny fraction of one percent.
That's not to say that that much sealed garbage wouldn't present a bit of a problem! Just that loss of atmosphere wouldn't necessarily be the worst facet.
:salute:

Veryyyyyyyyyy GOOD Points Crewmember! :thumbsup:

[shiningstar]

in case your interested in art and blind people..

http://www.artagogo.com/commentary/artforblind/artforblind.htm

Cool Link Rowan! Thanks for posting it! :thumbsup:

[The 14th Colony]

Well, not very much, in terms of the problem as presented. Consider: if the entire surface of the planet, including oceans, were covered with a hundred-foot deep layer of sealed plastic garbage, how much of the atmosphere would be thus tied up? A tiny fraction of one percent.
That's not to say that that much sealed garbage wouldn't present a bit of a problem! Just that loss of atmosphere wouldn't necessarily be the worst facet.
:salute:
Well, the way I see it, there are a number of factors contributing to our lowering of the oxygen supply. Polution is increasing, the forests are dwindling. There are less plantation to excert new oxygen, and more polution poisoning the present air supply, and so much of what we have being locked away in closed containers. Think of the scene in Spaceballs whene the King of Druidia opened a can of oxygen from his desk drawer and breathed the contents in. Someday we might be scrambling to garbage dumps to rummage through the trash to desperately unscrew as many bottles as we can find, and puncture trash bags, to snort down those precious amounts of stored away oxygen.

And then you have to take into account the outragious number of humans and animals who flatulate so often that there isn't a single second of a day where there isn't somebody farting somewhere. Our air would be so much cleaner if everyone would either stop doing that, or do it more sparingly. Heck, how many peeps broke wind while reading this post alone, I wonder? :blink:

[The 14th Colony]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sounds like you're reading up on your Einstein with a little of Murphy's law added in. Either way I like YOUR WAY
of thinking!

Keep posting 14th Colony! :thumbups:
Actually, I haven't read any Einstein at all. I've been wanting to read his theory of relativity and the writings of Newton and others, but it is too complex for me. I had a head injury when I was a young teen that severely lessened my ability to comprehend complex science and math. I have come a long way since then but certain things are still tough for me to fully grasp. But sometimes I have a clearing of the gray clouds, so to speak, and my mind begins to spin in ways shown by my ideas in this thread. It's as if my inner mind awakens and then spews out complex ideas that I don't have a way of describing scientifically but in rather layman's terms. I actually had that thought about the seperation of time while waiting on line at the McDonald's drive through, which was a very odd place to have such a thought since I prefer Burger King and go there far, far, more often.

But I like that you like my way of thinking. Has that migraine cleared up?

[The 14th Colony]

You know, it's deep thoughts like that which remind me we really need Mr. Fusion from Back to the Future!!
Indeed. We are throwing away the future of time travel along with our air supply!!! :eek:

[The 14th Colony]

Yes! pathophysiology killed me! :/: yes I suppose I could look at it that way but when does my little brain get a break? LOL! 14th! are you a tough task master?:D ;)
Well I've never been into bondage, but if you enjoy the whip, then wrack that brain, wench! Wrack it! ;)

[The 14th Colony]

I used "wench" with complete humor and respect, I hope you understand. :nervous:

[Muffit]

Well, the way I see it, there are a number of factors contributing to our lowering of the oxygen supply. Polution is increasing, the forests are dwindling. There are less plantation to excert new oxygen, and more polution poisoning the present air supply, and so much of what we have being locked away in closed containers. Think of the scene in Spaceballs whene the King of Druidia opened a can of oxygen from his desk drawer and breathed the contents in. Someday we might be scrambling to garbage dumps to rummage through the trash to desperately unscrew as many bottles as we can find, and puncture trash bags, to snort down those precious amounts of stored away oxygen.

And then you have to take into account the outragious number of humans and animals who flatulate so often that there isn't a single second of a day where there isn't somebody farting somewhere. Our air would be so much cleaner if everyone would either stop doing that, or do it more sparingly. Heck, how many peeps broke wind while reading this post alone, I wonder? :blink:
LOL 14th!!! I can see it now, beans a controlled substance due to global warming... :D

[shiningstar]

Another deep thought cometh.

What does the world look like through the eyes of a blind person?

A blind person knows they cannot see, yet how do they know what "seeing" is? If all they have known was a world of darkness, how can they comprehend what a world of light would reveal? How do they think other people. those with full sight, see the world around them?

How do blind people dream?

How do they imagine the appearance of things they have never had sight to verify?

Do they think in color? Might their minds perceive colors our own minds could not have imagined?

Might a person blind since birth, having suddenly gained full sight, be relieved to see the world is better than they imagined...or dissappointed that it was not as fantastic as they had pre-visualized?

If future science somehow invented a way for a sighted person and a blind person to see into the other's minds to share each other's visions of the world and life itself, imagine how each person would experience the other person's visual memories compared to their own.

Imagine having a blind person work for ILM or any sci-fi special effects company, designing space ships and aliens. They would surely come up with shapes and styles we could possibly never imagine. I would be interested to see drawings of everyday objects made by blind people. Whether you can draw or not, try drawing something with your eyes closed and then look to see how close it is to another you drew with your eyes open. I wonder how close or different a drawing made by a blind person, and by a sighted person with his eyes closed, would be to each other, of the same subject.

:cool:

Sometimes, I have awoken from dreams I had trouble remembering. I couldn't recall the dream itself, yet I had vague images of something or set of things I saw, that I knew were from the dream but could not form a shape or color to the images to see what they were. Other times I've awoken with clear as crystal memories of what I saw in my dreams. But I wonder if the vague, hard to distinguish images are some of what a blind person attributes to the objects he touches, hears, or is told about. In other words, I wonder if the images he creates to identify what he knows is around him, are crystal clear, or vague and hard to define.

:cool:

Have you watched M.A.S.H.? In one episode Hawkeye Pierce was blinded by an explosion, and they didn't know if it was temporary or permanant. Pierce wanted to go back to work and assist regardless of his blindness. At the operating table where the other surgeons were stitching the insides of a severely wounded soldier, Hawkeye sensed that the perforated bowel was not fully stitched, by sense of smell. No other doctor detected it by smell, or saw the loose stitch by sight. In another, non-medical instance, it was raining and Hawkeye noted that the rain hitting the ground sounded like sizzling steak on a grill. He also was able to hear distant incoming helicopters before anyone else could (Radar was good at doing that, though he wasn't blind), and realized that without his sight all of his other senses had been highly enhanced to compensate.

So from a certain point of view, a blind person might be seeing more of the world than we ever can. Like I said, from a certain point of view.

More to come, at some point later. That's right, I did say "later", which comes now from a certain point of view.
;)

Very insightful 14th colony keep posting.

[shiningstar]

Well, the way I see it, there are a number of factors contributing to our lowering of the oxygen supply. Polution is increasing, the forests are dwindling. There are less plantation to excert new oxygen, and more polution poisoning the present air supply, and so much of what we have being locked away in closed containers. Think of the scene in Spaceballs whene the King of Druidia opened a can of oxygen from his desk drawer and breathed the contents in. Someday we might be scrambling to garbage dumps to rummage through the trash to desperately unscrew as many bottles as we can find, and puncture trash bags, to snort down those precious amounts of stored away oxygen.

And then you have to take into account the outragious number of humans and animals who flatulate so often that there isn't a single second of a day where there isn't somebody farting somewhere. Our air would be so much cleaner if everyone would either stop doing that, or do it more sparingly. Heck, how many peeps broke wind while reading this post alone, I wonder? :blink:

Not me :wtf:

[shiningstar]

Well, the way I see it, there are a number of factors contributing to our lowering of the oxygen supply. Polution is increasing, the forests are dwindling. There are less plantation to excert new oxygen, and more polution poisoning the present air supply, and so much of what we have being locked away in closed containers. Think of the scene in Spaceballs whene the King of Druidia opened a can of oxygen from his desk drawer and breathed the contents in. Someday we might be scrambling to garbage dumps to rummage through the trash to desperately unscrew as many bottles as we can find, and puncture trash bags, to snort down those precious amounts of stored away oxygen.

And then you have to take into account the outragious number of humans and animals who flatulate so often that there isn't a single second of a day where there isn't somebody farting somewhere. Our air would be so much cleaner if everyone would either stop doing that, or do it more sparingly. Heck, how many peeps broke wind while reading this post alone, I wonder? :blink:

Not me :wtf:

[Rowan]

I used "wench" with complete humor and respect, I hope you understand. :nervous:
LOL 14th! if you followed my activities in the Thwack thread you would know there is no need to explain yourself;)

[Rowan]

Well I've never been into bondage, then you don't know what you are missing....;) but if you enjoy the whip, ssshhhh not here ...then wrack that brain, wench! Wrack it! ;) slave driver!;) :D

[Rowan]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm SOunds like you're reading up on your Einstein
with a little of Murphy's law added in. Either way I like YOUR WAY
of thinking!

Keep posting 14th Colony! :thumbups:Actually it has some similarities to the explanation of the way time functions within balck holes that Stephen Hawking made in his book "a brief history in time";) so if you like that kind of thing I highly recomend it. It's a relatively easy read, he walks you through it step by step, and uses every day examples to help explain it, some of it's hard to understand but I find the more I read it the more clear it becomes.

[Stray Viper]

And then you have to take into account the outragious number of humans and animals who flatulate so often that there isn't a single second of a day where there isn't somebody farting somewhere. Our air would be so much cleaner if everyone would either stop doing that, or do it more sparingly. Heck, how many peeps broke wind while reading this post alone, I wonder? :blink:

You know, that's something that has plagued my philosophical musings since I first began to think all those endless months ago. Any theoretical physicists here are welcome to answer this query: What would happen if, as unlikely a mathematical possibililty that it is, if every single person and animal capable of it farted throughout earth at exactly the same moment of time? The very thought of such a potential catastrophe has woken me in the middle of the darkest nights in a cold sweat.

By the way, I wouldn't be worried about all the human farts. It is a matter of biological fact that the worst offenders are our bovine friends. Those cows are horrible, I think they're lactose intolerant. And they release methane into our atmosphere.

[Rowan]

one of the worst destroyers of the ozone layer are the super sonic jets every time they break the sound barrier! but bovines do their share. lets just look at the manure production alone

"most manure is not returned to the land. animal waste in the US amounts to 2billion tons annually, equivalent to the waste of almost half of the worlds human population much of the nitrogen-containing waste from livestock is converted into ammonia and into nitrates, which leach into the groundwater beneath the soil or runs directly into surface water, thus contributing to high nitrate levels in the rural wells which tap the groundwater. In streams and lakes, high levels of waste run off contribute to oxygen depletion and algae overgrowth. American livestock contribute five times more harmful organic waste to water pollution than do people and twice that of industry" p.84 Diet for a small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe 1982

also p. 89 "today livestock consume close to one-half the world's grain output and by 1985 are expected to eat even more grain than people do"

p. 69 "for every 16 lbs of grain and soy fed to beef cattle in the US we only get 1 lb back in meat on our plates. the other 15 lbs are inaccessible to us. 16 lbs of grain has twenty-one times more calories and eight times more protein - but only three times more fat-than a pound of hamburger."
"if we exclude dairy cows, the average ratio of all US livestock is 7 lbs of grain and soy fed to produce 1 lb of edible food. thus, of the 145 million tons of grain and soy fed to our beef cattle, poultry , and hogs in 1979 , only 21 million tons were returned to us in meat, poultry, and eggs. the rest 124 millons tons of grain and soybeans become inaccessible to human consumption...if cooked , it is the equivalent of 1 cup of grain for every single human being on earth every day for a year"

So why are there people still starving on our planet?! We don't need to send money we need to cut down on our meat consumption for several reasons!


Food for thought LOL!

[The 14th Colony]

Damn, that sounds like a lot of bull$hit, Rowan. Not that I don't believe it, it's just a lot of bull$hit that the article is about. LOL

[The 14th Colony]

You know, that's something that has plagued my philosophical musings since I first began to think all those endless months ago. Any theoretical physicists here are welcome to answer this query: What would happen if, as unlikely a mathematical possibililty that it is, if every single person and animal capable of it farted throughout earth at exactly the same moment of time? The very thought of such a potential catastrophe has woken me in the middle of the darkest nights in a cold sweat.

By the way, I wouldn't be worried about all the human farts. It is a matter of biological fact that the worst offenders are our bovine friends. Those cows are horrible, I think they're lactose intolerant. And they release methane into our atmosphere.
I have also thought long and hard about such a potential disaster. First, the sound would be deafening. But wait, we've seen it happen already! It wasn't the burning tylium that blew up Carillon, it was all the Ovians farting at the same time!

[Rowan]

Yup lots and lots and lots of manure!;) :D LOL!

[The 14th Colony]

Boy, this discussion really stinks, huh? It has really gone to crap. lol

[Stray Viper]

Yeah, it feels like it's been a waste. :)

And, as usual, it seems like any useful wisdom in this discussion went in one way and out the other!

[Rowan]

*Groan* you too are sooooo bad!;) :D

[The 14th Colony]

Everything he knows he learned from me. He was once pure and innocent, but my vile humor has corrupted him. Now I am doing the same to his younger brother, who I have taken under my wing. Soon he too will be spout bathroom humor like me. Soon you will too. It is inevitable. It is your destiny.

[Rowan]

14th I will not be assimilated!;) :D

[The 14th Colony]

Resistance is futile. Avoidance is pointless. You will 14th Colonized.

[Rowan]

will you promise to be gentle?;) :D

[The 14th Colony]

Why of course. All probes and insertionary intrusions are carried out gently and pleasurably. :eek:

[Rowan]

:eek:
um what have I started.....again;)

[The 14th Colony]

I have a deep thought. Yes, indeed I do. A decade ago I had concieved of an idea for a Battlestar novel, one of many ideas I thought up and jotted down in outline form for later use. It was long before I knew anything about Richard Hatch's revival attempts and before Sci-Fi did what they did with the remake. The ideas came at a time when I didn't know how many fans there were keeping the love for BSG as I had, and I had hoped that my novel would be the means to relight the BSG fires to bring about a revival movie or TV show. What I did when forming the plotline to the story was create what it was I had always wanted to see happen in the BSG universe, one of the things, anyway. I wrote out a series of rough concepts and deeper, detailed ideas and kept them in rough form for later working on, hoping someday to get the novel completed and published. Then a few years ago I put more thought into the idea behind the novel, only to later find out that a revival was already in progress (though it turned into the remake instead). So I came to realize that perhaps my hope of getting the book published were slim to none. And apparently only Richard Hatch has the rights to publish BSG novels at the current time, so my hopes are even dimmer. Last year, at Stray Viper's urging, I went back to my old notes and rough outlines of my BSG novel to write out a clearer summary of the book itself to give him an idea of what the direction of the story would be. I sent him a 23 page sumary outline of my novel to give me feedback on, and he reported that he enjoyed it very much and thought it had good potential (at least that's what I remember him saying. Stray Viper, correct me if I misquoted.). My point is, for a long while I have played with the idea of posting my summary on this board for other serious BSG fans to read and give me feedback on, though it is still rough and incomplete. And so, my deep thought is about doing exactly that, posting my BSG continuation summary on this board for fan's reading and feedback. I ask myself in that deep thought, should I or shouldn't I, and would other fans be interested in this?

[The 14th Colony]

:eek:
um what have I started.....again;)
See what happens when you open Pandora's box?

[Rowan]

See what happens when you open Pandora's box?

yes but I never seem to learn I just have to have a peek;) :D

[Rowan]

14th it sounds like a good idea to me the library could always use another addition

[The 14th Colony]

Good then. So I shall considder putting the summary into the Library for viewing, and soon.

[The 14th Colony]

yes but I never seem to learn I just have to have a peek;) :D
Opening the box for a peek is like eating a Dorito, you can never have just one.

[Stray Viper]

I think that would be a great idea 14th. From what I read, I could definitely visualize it as a movie. What's especially satisfying about it was that you went in the direction that we fans wanted, which is seeing the same characters from the show, a bit older and changed over time. It was great.

[The 14th Colony]

Thanks for the feedback, originally, and now, old buddy. I am going to post it soon in the Library section.

[Stray Viper]

LOL I'm using my S3 style for your D3 development stage. You've got the tools, man, use them. :)

[The 14th Colony]

What do you mean, with "S3 style" and D3 developement stage"?

Cripes, the character limit to a post is 10,000 characters and its much long than that. I have to figure out where 10,000 lies on my Word character count and post it a piece at a time. Argh!!

[jewels]

*******interrupts wherever thread has meandered to inject a thought about time*****

Was just emailing someone that was in Australia....For him it was already Friday (tomorrow for me) I was replying to him from his yesterday, but my today (Thursday). Anyhow, my sign off was "Enjoy tomorrow today, as I finish up yesterday."

Am I sleep deprived or did I manage something a little bit witty? Witty is rare for me... ;)

[jewels]

What do you mean, with "S3 style" and D3 developement stage"?

Cripes, the character limit to a post is 10,000 characters and its much long than that. I have to figure out where 10,000 lies on my Word character count and post it a piece at a time. Argh!!
No!!!!! Don't do all that work!!! the easy way: send it to BST or Dawg as a Word Doc and they will put it in the Colonial Library. Everyone downloads it when they have time and reads and gives feedback.

[The 14th Colony]

No worries, I realized I didn't want to do all that work, so I emailed it to BST just a little while ago. Oh frak! I went and cut and pasted it to email rather than attaching as a Word document. I'd better resend it to him. I wasn't thinking clearly. I worked 21 hours straight from 8am Tuesday morning until 5am Wed. morning, and had to go back to work at 8am until 4pm, and had only about 5 hours sleep Wednsday night, so my head is still slightly mush.

[Rowan]

((((((((((((14th)))))))))))))))));) :D for working so hard and mushy headedness...

also I didn't want this thread to get too far away, I'm enjoying it !

[The 14th Colony]

Deep thought for today:
For them who ain't seen it yet, my story is posted, go check it out. :salute:
http://colonialfleets.com/forumhome.htm

[Stray Viper]

Nice avatar.

[repcisg]

Hum, just noticed - we have two forms of leather here.

[bsg1fan1975]

14th your avatar gives me the willies. I will never be able to look at a cow the same way ever again!

[The 14th Colony]

Don't knock cow tongue till you've tried it. They are great kissers. They are also great steaks, but the tongue kissing is the appetiser. :P:

[repcisg]

Hummm, that all depends on who and or what you are exchanging tongue with!

For me the initial requirement is the she be human!

[amberstar]

Hummm, that all depends on who and or what you are exchanging tongue with!

For me the initial requirement is the she be human!
LOL Repcisg! I'd have to agree Human is the way to go ;)

[repcisg]

I don't think I'm too much of a prude. Alive, same species, oposite gender and willing. Before I consider getting that close.

[The 14th Colony]

Hmmm, well let us keep my bovine sexual interludes secret, shall we? I thought others would be understanding and not so judgemental. Besides, I was in college at the time, and I was just, you know, experimenting. It was really just a one time thing, you know. That doesn't make me a heiffersexual, does it?

[The 14th Colony]

Hum, just noticed - we have two forms of leather here.
We do? I thought it was vinyle, actually.

[Muffit]

That doesn't make me a heiffersexual, does it?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Laughing like crazy 14th! Hey, I knew you were one or dee udder... (arrrgh) ;)

:muffit:

[The 14th Colony]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Laughing like crazy 14th! Hey, I knew you were one or dee udder... (arrrgh) ;)

:muffit:
:D :laugh: Thank you for returning the laughs in kind. :laugh: :D
I do like cow boobs, the udder kind of white meat!

[repcisg]

Taking 14th's predilection to the next step, does this mean that Baltar (new series) is a cysextual?

[julix]

14th colony.....WHOA!!! guess ya felt like sharing huh???? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Let's not go into the college days secrets okay???Muffit... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[amberstar]

LMAO 14! :D :D :laugh:
Too many college day secrets here, I'm taking them all to the grave with me ;)

[Stray Viper]

Holy cow! :D

[amberstar]

Holy cow! :D

LOL :D

[The 14th Colony]

Holy cow! :D
Yeah, that's what the Hindu's said.

[julix]

Come on Amber I will tell some if you do(secrets that is).....well maybe not :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[amberstar]

Come on Amber I will tell some if you do(secrets that is).....well maybe not :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'll just use.. I remember when a"friend"(( instead of "me /I"))......isn't that how it's done when you don't want anyone to know???? :duck:

[julix]

Yes Amber the friend bit is how it is done, but everyone knows you are talking about yourself so you may want to think of a different ploy...............

[The 14th Colony]

I'll just use.. I remember when a"friend"(( instead of "me /I"))......isn't that how it's done when you don't want anyone to know???? :duck:
Except that whenever you say "a friend of mine", people always know that it's you.

Like,
"I had this friend who has an itchy rash and he..."
And people slowly edge away from you.
I don't mean you per se, but "you" in general. :duck:

[julix]

14th colony........................................................................................................................go to the DOCTOR!!!!! :D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :D

[The 14th Colony]

Ack! Not me, a friend, really! :blush: :wtf: :eek: :blink: :cry:

My Deep Thought for today:
As of right now I have 777 posts. What a perfect number, God's number. Nearly everything in the bible was sevens, God's number of perfection. And Star Wars came out in '77 to add to the wonder of the number.

I don't think that I will make any more posts. I should keep it at 777 posts and dwell in the perfection of that number. I shant not post another post, dare not I to increase that number.

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Somewhere in the vague vastness of my wandering mind.
Posts: 777

[thomas7g]

*thud*

[The 14th Colony]

How's yer head, Thomas?

[shiningstar]

14th colony........................................................................................................................go to the DOCTOR!!!!! :D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :D

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[shiningstar]

Ye Wise one ...........how can someone who catches NOTHING catch SOMETHING? :wtf:

[thomas7g]

Tom is fine... though the decompressive shock of entering this thread unprepared caught me off guard for a sec.

*remembers to breath*

I'm feeling better now. :D

[The 14th Colony]

That is your own fault you know, you being the Geordi LaForge of the boards. You should have maintained the equipment to keep the air pressure at a consistant level from thread to thread, so that there would be no danger of decompression upon entering a seperate thread. Then you wouldn't have to worry about being unprepared for varying air pressures. :duck:

[thomas7g]

BWAHAHA!

Yup..... I was so worried about losing containment in the warp drive I didn't notice people passing out from moving from thread to thread.

:D

*trips over Shiningstar*

OOOPS! SORRY!

[The 14th Colony]

:D :laugh:

[shiningstar]

Tom is fine... though the decompressive shock of entering this thread unprepared caught me off guard for a sec.

*remembers to breath*

I'm feeling better now. :D
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[The 14th Colony]

Time for a new deep thought. NYPDBlue is one of my favorite shows. I'd noticed that whenever they inform someone of their loved one or close friend having been murdered, or just breaking the news to them about their loved one's death, they always ask them, "Would you like a glass of water?" Every episode when they tell someone that their loved one is dead, they then offer them a glass of water. I always thought this extremely odd. I mean, what is the water going to do, comfort them and make them feel better? I always thought that if I found out my loved one was dead, that drinking or eating anything would be the last thing on my mind. Why would someone want a glass of water upon learning of their loved one's death? It just didn't make sense that offering a glass of water was supposed to make the person feel better. The day I found out my mom was going to die within a few days (she actually lasted for just over 2 weeks, but the one doctor told me that she would die in 3-4 days), I had been summoned to the hospital by my cousin. I had gone home while my mom was in intensive care, just to shower and take care of some things before going back because nobody knew how long she was going to be there. I knew something was up when my cousin called me again on my cell and asked me how close I was to the hospital. That spoke volumes to me. I had a tall bottle of water with me, with a squirt top on it, though I wasn't really thirsty but I had just taken it from the fridge. Then, in the room with the doctor I sat knowing what he was going to tell me even before he said it. My cousins came in and surrounded me and put their hands on my shoulders and I knew what was coming. I told the doctor "just cut to the chase, I know what you're going to say..." but he kept talking about all the things that couldn't be done or whatever else that came from his mouth, and I told him, "just tell me already, damn it! I know what you're going to say, so just say it!" and I kept taking swigs from the water bottle. My mouth was getting dryer and dryer, no matter how much water I drank, my mouth just went dry again. Then he told me that we had to stop dialysis and let her die because there was nothing we could do, and that she would die in 3-4 days. And I drank more water. But still my mouth was dry. For the next hour I refilled the bottle several times from a water fountain because my mouth was so damn dry. For the next two weeks, and in the last week and a half since she went, I drank more water than I ever did before (I'm usually a soda drinker). Strangely enough, I think my mom would be pleased, she always did say I drank too much soda and should drink more water. Go figure.

Now I understand why they always offer them a drink of water on NYPDBlue. And that was my deep thought of the day.