Ronald D. Moore Endorses the CFF

[CommanderTaggart]

Today, Ronald D. Moore joined Richard Hatch, Dirk Benedict, Jane Seymour, and Jack Stauffer in officially endorsing the efforts of the Colonial Fan Force.

Mr. Moore also made a financial contribution to the CFF fund.

On behalf of the CFF, I wish to publicly thank Mr. Moore for both his endorsement and his contribution.

[Rowan]

ok that's a very nice surprise!:D

[BST]

Ron,

A sincere "Thank You"!!

BST :)

[Muffit]

Wow! To Mr. Moore, thank you very deeply and sincerely, from Muffit! :heart:
:muffit:

[Dawg]

Thumbs up to Ron Moore! Thanks, Ron!

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[shiningstar]

Thanks for the endorsement RDM.

[koenigrules]

I know I haven't posted here in awhile guys, but I think it's great RDM has endorsed CFF.
I have as well.
And I have posted a thread on Sciffy saying that anyone who has started 5 or more threads there (or on a related Galactica site) should contribute to CFF.
I think its a worthwhile effort that every Galactica fan (old & new) should endorse.
KR :)

[Muffit]

Thank you koenigrules! Wishing you all the best...
Muffit

[shiningstar]

I know I haven't posted here in awhile guys, but I think it's great RDM has endorsed CFF.
I have as well.
And I have posted a thread on Sciffy saying that anyone who has started 5 or more threads there (or on a related Galactica site) should contribute to CFF.
I think its a worthwhile effort that every Galactica fan (old & new) should endorse.
KR :)

Welcome back Koenigrules. :D

It's good to see you again. ;)

[larocque6689]

Koenig

Yes, I saw the thread, and replied to it. It's a great idea and I hope people respond. I salute you!

:salute:
:corona:

[CommanderTaggart]

Thank you, Koenigrules. That's a wonderful sentiment, and a wonderful idea. Let's hope that it catches on.

[Gemini1999]

Today, Ronald D. Moore joined Richard Hatch, Dirk Benedict, Jane Seymour, and Jack Stauffer in officially endorsing the efforts of the Colonial Fan Force.

Mr. Moore also made a financial contribution to the CFF fund.

Wow!

Ron Moore? I am so gobsmacked! (and pleased...). Good work Bill! I think that is so cool that he even contributed as well. Talk about building bridges......!

This makes my evening!

Bryan
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[amberstar]

WOW! That is amazing news. Thank you Ron.

Amber

[thomas7g]

I'n not surprised that Moore would do this. He's been demonized alot by us, but its been too out of proportion. he's a creative guy. Give him permission, he's going to do what he thinks is right. I may HEAVILY disagree with him, we all may, but that don't mean his father was Satan.

I'm sure he would be happy to see everyone get what they want.

He's a good person. We may disagree about a tv show, but that has nothing to do with his morality.

Its just a tv. I'm more upset about what I see on CNN.

:)

[koenigrules]

Just thought you'd like to know, I called RDM's office this evening to let him know how appreciative we are of his support for a continuation movie. Ron's secretary relayed the "thank you" to him.
He did get our message!

[amberstar]

Just thought you'd like to know, I called RDM's office this evening to let him know how appreciative we are of his support for a continuation movie. Ron's secretary relayed the "thank you" to him.
He did get our message!

That was really nice of you, I'm glad that you made that phone call. :thumbsup:


Amber :salute:

[Muffit]

Just thought you'd like to know, I called RDM's office this evening to let him know how appreciative we are of his support for a continuation movie. Ron's secretary relayed the "thank you" to him.
He did get our message!

Thank you so much Koenigrules :). Am so glad he is able to hear our thanks. That was truly kind of you.

Affectionately,
Muffit
:muffit:

[gmd3d]

THAT'S GREAT :salute:
good to see you here Koenigrules :duck:

[koenigrules]

I also wanted to say that perhaps I came across too strongly in my opinions towards the mini. I did (and do) like the reimaged version.
But I also wanted to say that TOS was one of my favorite sci-fi shows of all time.
I love the DVD set & the music from it.
I hope by my supporting CFF that you will see my sincerity to seeing a continuation of TOS in movie version.
And I hope there are no lingering bad feelings.
I will try my darndest to respect all peoples' views towards Galactica.
Thanks,
KR (aka Jim)

P.S. We've now surpassed the $1500 mark!

[larocque6689]

Koenig

I appreciate the strong and positive role that you have played on behalf of both Galactica fanbases. There are a lot of wonderful things going on that all fans can take take heart in, and I for one am proud to be part of it, both as a longtime fan, and a contributor.

As for hard feelings, I personlly hold none. I once again offer my apologies for any difficulties we've had in the past. I am optimistic for what the future holds for both Galactica and this fanbase, and look forward in all of us sharing that.

Once again, you have my salute.
:salute:

(Anybody who bought the 4-CD set of Stu Phillips IMHO counts as a genuine, hard-core fan of the original Galactica series!!!)

[Count Iblis]

Wow...I'm shocked, happy, and waiting for the other shoe to drop. I really don't know what to think? It's nice RDM took the time and was interested enough to do this, and I don't mean to sound like an ingrate here, but I'm currious as to why now?

I mean...he's got what he wanted without much consideration of TOS. He probably knows that there is little chance that the "Movie" version will ever be made now, and so, while it's a nice gesture on his part, it doesn't change any reality of where TOS/BSG stands currently.

I don't want to sound like this is an attack on RDM, or anything, because I salute the effort to heal some wounds, but in all honesty, in my humble opinion, there was a lot more room for consideration from RDM during the conceptual formatting of BSG03 to include more TOS. That would have been an even stronger and more appreciated gesture on his part, but I still thank him for taking an interest in how many of the TOS fans feel, and for helping from his "wallet" which also speaks volumes. I doubt is was generated from any guilt that might be associated with what was done with BSG03. I think it was genuine, and I appreciate that.

Cheers!

[CommanderTaggart]

Count Iblis, I think that it's best that we don't question his motives any more than those of the the other folks who have contributed to and/or endorsed the CFF effort.

The fact of the matter is that the CFF is building bridges in the fandom, and that can't be anything but good. I figured in the beginning that the scores of TOS fans would contribute, and that we'd place the ads while the mini fans sat over at Media Blvd. with their arms folded, rolling their eyes saying "there they go again!" But that's not the case. Mini fans have gotten behind this, and contributed. galactica2003.net has gotten behind this, and its leadership has contributed.

This makes our message more powerful than I could ever have hoped for. Now the message we send to Hollywood isn't just about the same TOS fans who have been screaming for 25-years, it's now about the SciFi Channel's target demo, too. It's about how lucrative the Galactica brand is RIGHT NOW.

Ron Moore's contribution and endorsement help make it possible to send that message of unity (which I have done in the form of a press release), and I, for one, am very grateful to him for it.

[BST]

Mini fans have gotten behind this, and contributed. galactica2003.net has gotten behind this, and its leadership has contributed.

CT,

Thanks for posting this. To me, seeing the mini-series fans jump on board is not a complete surprise. Many of them stated how much they enjoyed TOS and the effort of CFF is giving them a chance to show that their words were and are, indeed, true.

We ARE building bridges, my friend.

My personal thanks and appreciation to ALL who have contributed to the Colonial Fan Force.


:thumbsup:

BST

[Gunstar Aries]

This is good news.

Maybe I should change the post I just put up for the quote of the day...

Regards all,

Gunstar Aries

[shiningstar]

I also wanted to say that perhaps I came across too strongly in my opinions towards the mini. I did (and do) like the reimaged version.
But I also wanted to say that TOS was one of my favorite sci-fi shows of all time.
I love the DVD set & the music from it.
I hope by my supporting CFF that you will see my sincerity to seeing a continuation of TOS in movie version.
And I hope there are no lingering bad feelings.
I will try my darndest to respect all peoples' views towards Galactica.
Thanks,
KR (aka Jim)

P.S. We've now surpassed the $1500 mark!

Koenig your remarks supporting the mini have never offended me.
As a matter of fact I've never had a problem with ANY of your Posts
so don't worry about it ;)

[skycom]

Its truly heartwarming and encouragingto see this endorsement is reality. Soon, and very soon i hope, the SWELL of popularity & publicity will surge higher than ever and bring all our dreams to reality. A moment of choice i dearly welcome. :salute:

[LadyImmortal]

WTG Ron - thanks much for the endorsement and the contribution!

Maybe, in the end we can ALL get what we want... =)

--Rhonda

[Count Iblis]

I didn't mean to come off as being "Harsh" or "ungreatful" that RDM made this fantastic gesture. It's always a boon when someone with his background and production savy make an endorsement like this.

I guess my view is more of "Caution", and not to get overly excited about it yet. I want to see how BSG03 does as it stands now, and I hope if it has success it will be even a stronger message at that point to Hollywood that there is "Money" potential and marketability in BSG.

You guys can come down on me hard if you want too here. I will understand if you do. In the back of my mind I still wonder if BSG03 does have that kind of success, and Hollywood should say OK, let's do a feature film, will RDM step in and try to take over that project to do his own thing yet once again?

I'm not trying to sound uncharitable here, I'm just trying to consider all possible scenarios. There is no guarantee that if BSG03 succeeds to the point of being considered for a theatrical release it's going to include any of the other "Team" or their concepts. The studios could still side step TOS ideas all together and opt to make the film based on BSG03 alone.

Gosh....I hate to sound like the eternal pesimist here. Somebody give me a swift kick, with very hard tip pointy shoes!

My glass is half full.....Really!

Sincerely, Iblis

[shiningstar]

Its truly heartwarming and encouragingto see this endorsement is reality. Soon, and very soon i hope, the SWELL of popularity & publicity will surge higher than ever and bring all our dreams to reality. A moment of choice i dearly welcome. :salute:

DITTO!!

:salute:

:warrior:

:star:

[Antelope]

I guess my view is more of "Caution", and not to get overly excited about it yet. I want to see how BSG03 does as it stands now, and I hope if it has success it will be even a stronger message at that point to Hollywood that there is "Money" potential and marketability in BSG.

You guys can come down on me hard if you want too here. I will understand if you do. In the back of my mind I still wonder if BSG03 does have that kind of success, and Hollywood should say OK, let's do a feature film, will RDM step in and try to take over that project to do his own thing yet once again?

I'm not trying to sound uncharitable here, I'm just trying to consider all possible scenarios.

Sincerely, Iblis

I won't come down hard on you Count Iblis! :)

I waited a few days to reply on this thread because I wanted to see how people took Ron Moore's actions. I am very happy to see that Ron Moore and many mini-fans are supporting the efforts of the Colonial Fan Force. :salute:

I think a lot of TOS only fans forget that the vast majority of minifans are TOS fans also.

I think your concerns regarding the new mini universe are valid. Despite all our efforts this is a business. If the Colonial Fan Force gets paid ads in things like Variety it will help get ALL versions of Battlestar Galactica publicity. If this occurs while Moore's version is on the air it will help the SCIFI show.

Like you I think whether the SCIFI version succeeds or fails will decide what kind of Continuation we get (or don't get) . If it succeeds we will only see the Moore universe for the forseeable future. If Moore's version fails although I hope we get a TOS continuation I think realistically the franchise is pretty much over on television or at the movie theatre.

I support the efforts of the Colonial Fan Force and am glad people are coming on board. Unfortunately my support for any television show will have to stay verbal not financial while I continue to have a JOINT checking account. :duck:

I do question whether Colonial Fan Force should wait and see how things go with Moore and his series before they buy the ads. They may just end up helping the mini universe. If the mini universe fails some ads after the fact may be the spark that plants the seed of doubt in Hollywood that Galactica is not really dead.
:warrior:

[Dawg]

I won't come down hard on you Count Iblis! :)

I waited a few days to reply on this thread because I wanted to see how people took Ron Moore's actions. I am very happy to see that Ron Moore and many mini-fans are supporting the efforts of the Colonial Fan Force. :salute:

I think a lot of TOS only fans forget that the vast majority of minifans are TOS fans also.

I think your concerns regarding the new mini universe are valid. Despite all our efforts this is a business. If the Colonial Fan Force gets paid ads in things like Variety it will help get ALL versions of Battlestar Galactica publicity. If this occurs while Moore's version is on the air it will help the SCIFI show.

Like you I think whether the SCIFI version succeeds or fails will decide what kind of Continuation we get (or don't get) . If it succeeds we will only see the Moore universe for the forseeable future. If Moore's version fails although I hope we get a TOS continuation I think realistically the franchise is pretty much over on television or at the movie theatre.

I support the efforts of the Colonial Fan Force and am glad people are coming on board. Unfortunately my support for any television show will have to stay verbal not financial while I continue to have a JOINT checking account. :duck:

I do question whether Colonial Fan Force should wait and see how things go with Moore and his series before they buy the ads. They may just end up helping the mini universe. If the mini universe fails some ads after the fact may be the spark that plants the seed of doubt in Hollywood that Galactica is not really dead.
:warrior:

What the CFF ads will do is show TPTB - and Glen Larson and Tom DeSanto in particular - that there is still interest in TOS Battlestar Galactica regardless of how the Moore version does. That's what makes this campaign so great. It is not dependent on the success or failure of the Moore version. All of us - regardless of how we feel about RDM's BSG - can get behind this. It's very simple: if you liked TOS, if you want to see a continuation of TOS on the big screen, join us!

It really is that simple. It doesn't matter how well or poorly the new series does. Support CFF to show you want Battlestar Galactica on the big screen!

(FYI, I firmly beleive that the audience as a whole can support a theatrical version based on TOS and the TV version based on the mini without detriment to either.)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[CommanderTaggart]

Well said, Dawg. Well said.

[Antelope]

What the CFF ads will do is show TPTB - and Glen Larson and Tom DeSanto in particular - that there is still interest in TOS Battlestar Galactica regardless of how the Moore version does. That's what makes this campaign so great. It is not dependent on the success or failure of the Moore version. All of us - regardless of how we feel about RDM's BSG - can get behind this. It's very simple: if you liked TOS, if you want to see a continuation of TOS on the big screen, join us!

It really is that simple. It doesn't matter how well or poorly the new series does. Support CFF to show you want Battlestar Galactica on the big screen!

(FYI, I firmly beleive that the audience as a whole can support a theatrical version based on TOS and the TV version based on the mini without detriment to either.)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

I understand what the Colonial Fan Force is trying to accomplish. Believe me I hope it succeeds. I just think that any Battlestar Galactica advertising that occurs during the mini universe run will only help the mini universe. It is no different than running TOS episodes in the weeks prior to the minis initial release. Any publicity helps the show, including conflict.

I do question whether a theatrical release alone followed by DVD sales would make a profit. What would the budget for a Battlestar movie be? I think it may need a television run and rerun schedule afterwards to be profitable.

I know that WE KNOW either version does not depend on the other but I think the accountants will decide otherwise.

Here's a post where I hope I am wrong but think I am right. :cry:

[shiningstar]

What the CFF ads will do is show TPTB - and Glen Larson and Tom DeSanto in particular - that there is still interest in TOS Battlestar Galactica regardless of how the Moore version does. That's what makes this campaign so great. It is not dependent on the success or failure of the Moore version. All of us - regardless of how we feel about RDM's BSG - can get behind this. It's very simple: if you liked TOS, if you want to see a continuation of TOS on the big screen, join us!

It really is that simple. It doesn't matter how well or poorly the new series does. Support CFF to show you want Battlestar Galactica on the big screen!

(FYI, I firmly beleive that the audience as a whole can support a theatrical version based on TOS and the TV version based on the mini without detriment to either.)

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

Thanks for posting Dawg! :thumbsup:

Well said as ALWAYS ;)

[Jayworld]

I am so excited about CFF! I will definitely contribute; hopefully soon. I was laid off five weeks ago, and have finally been blessed by an interview coming up in a couple of days (finally...) so as soon as I secure employment, my "voice" will be heard as well through a financial gift.

Unfortunately, this was why (after much planning, etc.) I was not able to go to the Chicago Battlestar show this past weekend. That was a huge disapointment.

Jayworld

[BST]

Good luck in the job hunt, Jay.

*fingers crossed that the interview goes well.

BST

[Muffit]

I am so excited about CFF! I will definitely contribute; hopefully soon. I was laid off five weeks ago, and have finally been blessed by an interview coming up in a couple of days (finally...) so as soon as I secure employment, my "voice" will be heard as well through a financial gift.

Unfortunately, this was why (after much planning, etc.) I was not able to go to the Chicago Battlestar show this past weekend. That was a huge disapointment.

Jayworld

Welcome back Jayworld! Best of luck at your interview! :)
:muffit:

[CommanderTaggart]

antelope526 wrote:

I do question whether a theatrical release alone followed by DVD sales would make a profit. What would the budget for a Battlestar movie be? I think it may need a television run and rerun schedule afterwards to be profitable.

antelope... please don't think for a minute that I'm "coming down on you here," but I am honestly baffled by the logic of the above statment.

Movies are released every day with the benefit of a companion television series and resulting syndication package. Star Wars hasn't spawned a beloved series that has enjoyed a fruitful syndication run (though some might charge that it has... Battlestar Galactica! :laugh: ). Joss Whedon is taking pains to separate his movie Serenity from the television series Firefly that inspired it.

This would be a movie like any other movie that has made its money from ticket sales, DVD sales, overseas releases, merchandising, and themed McDonald's Happy Meals.

[Antelope]

Maybe I just don't understand the legal situation. No offense taken. Thanks for your answer.

Aren't the rights currently such that SCIFI can not make a theatre movie and Larson's rights stop any theatre effort from being put on television?

This is an honest questions. Doesn't a theatre release therefore have to make a profit based on theatre tickets, DVD sales, and rentals alone? At least as the rights are now.

Has anyone seen estimates on what a Galactica movie would cost to make and what it would need to gross at the box office to return a profit?

I wish whoever owned Galactica owned all the rights and not just some of the rights. It seems like it marginalizes both efforts.

Good luck Commander Taggert I hope the Colonial Fan Force reaches its goals!

[Dawg]

Theater and TV are two different mediums. Yes, we see theatrical releases played all the time on TV, but you almost never see a TV show in a movie theater unless a separate movie is made (the ST franchise a perfect example) - then it's a theatrical release and you go back to the front of the question again.

The profits/losses are not tied together. You do not need TV exposure (except advertising) to have a feature film make a profit.

If you did, you'd see Mona Lisa Smile plastered all over the TV. Likewise Dawn of the Dead would have to have a TV show, likewise Taking Lives, likewise Master & Commander, likewise Secret Window, likewise 50 First Dates, likewise....

Get the idea?

A theatrical release will make a profit based on ticket sales, merchandizing, foriegn release, DVD sales, etc.

TV don't have a thing to do with it, antelope (except as an advertising tool).

;)

As for rights - Larson can make a movie based on TOS, but not a TV show. If he can sell it, it will be made. We want to provide a push in that direction. So contribute to CFF until your wife complains about "beans and rice for dinner again"?

;) :laugh:
I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[shiningstar]

Theater and TV are two different mediums. Yes, we see theatrical releases played all the time on TV, but you almost never see a TV show in a movie theater unless a separate movie is made (the ST franchise a perfect example) - then it's a theatrical release and you go back to the front of the question again.

The profits/losses are not tied together. You do not need TV exposure (except advertising) to have a feature film make a profit.

If you did, you'd see Mona Lisa Smile plastered all over the TV. Likewise Dawn of the Dead would have to have a TV show, likewise Taking Lives, likewise Master & Commander, likewise Secret Window, likewise 50 First Dates, likewise....

Get the idea?

A theatrical release will make a profit based on ticket sales, merchandizing, foriegn release, DVD sales, etc.

TV don't have a thing to do with it, antelope (except as an advertising tool).

;)

As for rights - Larson can make a movie based on TOS, but not a TV show. If he can sell it, it will be made. We want to provide a push in that direction. So contribute to CFF until your wife complains about "beans and rice for dinner again"?

;) :laugh:
I am
Dawg
:warrior:

Dawg thank you so much for posting. I had the sames questions that
Antelope had. Thank you so much for clearing the air and answering
our questions :thumbsup:

[jonahlee]

I think this is great news.

Does this mean he has watched more of the series now. Aren't I correct in saying that Moore had only seen the pilot and one other episode when he wrote the new show, and that is why he didn't know about Sheba? Or am I dreaming?

[Antelope]

I think this is great news.

Does this mean he has watched more of the series now. Aren't I correct in saying that Moore had only seen the pilot and one other episode when he wrote the new show, and that is why he didn't know about Sheba? Or am I dreaming?

This question is one that no one really knows. When you read his interviews you can take them two ways:

1) He has only a basic familiarity with TOS.

2) He understands TOS very well and plays coy on the subject to avoid giving out potential plot developement in the new series.

Personally from what I read I tend to think he is well versed in all TOS and BSG 1980 episodes and is very familiar with the ideas Larson had for a potential TOS season 2. He seems to hold his ideas close to the vest and is more than willing to let an interviewer make their own conclusions even if wrong.

[jewels]

I support the efforts of the Colonial Fan Force and am glad people are coming on board. Unfortunately my support for any television show will have to stay verbal not financial while I continue to have a JOINT checking account. bwahahahaha: don't you know that is what money orders are for? Use cash to buy one and spouse is none the wiser. :duck:

Taggart will probably thwack me for that!!!! :laugh: and my hubby better never find the post. I'm gonna have a hard enough time explaining what I bought via PayPal.

Jayworld: There's a con in Lansing Michigan in November, or if it's just the trailers you want to see, Richard will be in Indy at Gencon in August.

Ernie: I think you were wanting the trading cards from the Chicago Con??, go to the website and check out what the "sustaining memberships" premium is, you will be pleased. :D