what size is the galactica

[gmd3d]

greeting fellow warriors I have a question and I am hoping that some one can help me.

1. what size is galactica i have heard that it is 2000 ft long 800 ft longer :( Than present day aircraft Carriers. and other source 6000ft (which i think is more likely)

2. what is her crew complemant on board i have read 500 in one place and in the book it Implies that there a a few thousand crew on board.

3. the viper complement is 75 is that also not a little light with the scale we are talking about. I would think that 75 could be stationed in one landing bay (if the galactica is over 6000 ft long) it would handle that many very easy including shuttles and scarbs (did i get the name right scarb??). :)

[warhammerdriver]

Which one? The TOS Galactica or the mini Galactica?

I think the one from the mini is smaller than the one in TOS.

What book are you referring to?

[thomas7g]

What is a scarb?

I prefer the larger measurement myself. It looks like the landing bay is larger than most modern carriers.

:D

[gmd3d]

warhammerdriver, sorry should have said " the TOS" Galactica in the mini its said to be 4500ft i think. :)

thomas7g, I thought the other name for Landram? is scarb?... but i agree with the larger figure is 6000ft or at least that size.

:)
one other thing while im at it , In the mini the landing vipers use an elevator system in the landing bay and they drop down below the bay, which i think makes a lot of sense, should the old Galactica not have the same system.

Im doing a set of drawing at the moment of how i would like it done I hope to be able to post them here some time when I have finished them.

as i can't post them myself is there another place to mail them when ready
:salute:

[Stevew]

http://www.tecr.com/galactica/

[gmd3d]

thanks for the link Stevew :thumbsup: great stuff

[peter noble]

The TOS Galactica is about 6080 ft long or one nautical mile, this figure having been realised by actually measuring the filming miniature.

Peter

[gmd3d]

The TOS Galactica is about 6080 ft long or one nautical mile, this figure having been realised by actually measuring the filming miniature.

Peter


thank peter thats a great help :thumbsup:

[cranky1c]

Thanks for the link.

What I really want to know is where Thomas's avatar came from.

[StarshipTrooper]

Hi,

Here is some more information on the Galactica size. John Dykstra is quoted as saying that Glen A. Larson conceived the Galactica as being about a mile long in the Official Battlestar Galactica Scrapbook. But here is an interesting article nevertheless:

Colonial Battlestar Size and Capabilities Research by Sean M. Sachs
http://www.battlestargalacticaclub.com/interfleet/interfleet07.html

Regards,

Nathan

:warrior:

[Rowan]

another link that discusses the Galactica's size mmmm is this a male thing?;)


http://ravensbranch.allen.com/galacticasize.html

http://staff.bus.brighton.ac.uk/fesg/bsg/colonials/ship_cva_note.html

[thomas7g]

Thanks for the link.

What I really want to know is where Thomas's avatar came from.
My current avatar is from Tabitha, the sequel to Bewitched. Didn't do too well. But Lisa Hartman was adorable.

:D

[Rowan]

I have to say maybe it's my dirty mind but each time I flash past your avatar for a split second I see a naked man on top of a naked woman.;)

[thomas7g]

another link that discusses the Galactica's size mmmm is this a male thing?;)

Size does matter. So says all the spam in my mailbox.

:D

[Rowan]

I just don't know what to say to that except the spam is wrong!!!;)

[Muffit]

It's not how big your battlestar is, it's how you use it... :D
:muffit:

[Rowan]

ROFLMAO:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Rowan]

Just to get serious for a moment anatomically speaking women are only about 4 inches deep so why would you need more and as for width well a baby's head can fit through there...plus another little bizzar rowan story one of my many jobs in my colourful past consisted of paying the male stripers at a place I worked at, so I got to chat with them before and after their shows. They made their living selling an idea but behind the scenes they would complain that it was completely impractical, that they could never get physically close in intimate situations, and they had to be very careful all the time not to hurt someone so ... I guess for them size does matter only in the wrong way? ah the ironies of life:eek: ok I'll shut up now:)

[gmd3d]

thanks for the links Rowan and StarshipTrooper very informative both sites are new to me.
and as to the rest I will leave in your capable hands :D :laugh: :laugh:
and Muffit I know how to use my Battlestar verry well :D :laugh: thanks

Just to throw another wild dog into the fray how big is a shuttle craft, how long and how tall is it and please don't tell me is smaller than a Battlestar :laugh: :laugh: that I know
and it has nothing to do with the male aah hmm thing
thanks for the input. :thumbsup:

[Rowan]

thanks for the input. :thumbsup: well I'm afraid I can't resist that one potemkin...It's us ladies who thank you men for the in put;)

[repcisg]

Boy did this thread take a left turn! :eek:

On the issue of input, on behalf of the guys - our pleasure mam :D


Now on the original topic:

Battlestars are BIG, Glen Larson asked John Dykstra to build a ship about a mile long. John Dykstra designed and built the Galactica on a scale of 1/960 (1 foot equals 960 feet) at 6 feet 4 inches, that makes her 6,080 feet long or one nautical mile in length. Books reporting the Galactica as being 2000 feet in length were written without consulting Dykstra or any of the production staff. Some fans have estimated her as being 4000 feet long, but these estimates are based on internal views, which were matt paintings, not done to scale, but rather what looked cool.

Based on the Dykstra scale the landing bays are 3,000 feet long, 720 feet wide and 315 feet high.

In total volume the center body contains a volume roughly equal to both landing bays combined, the head contains an equal volume of space.

It is important to remember, in 1978, details like this were not considered important. With the advent of VCR’s fans have been able to replay segments of films, extracting details and background information originally thrown in to add flavor to the over all story. These details were never intended to be a serious part of the story.

So pick your size.

A thought problem or simple exercise. At a scale of 1/960 a Viper (28 feet long by 16 feet wide) would be .35 inches long by .2 inches wide. The main landing deck would be 37.5 inches long and 9 inches wide. The central landing strip down the center of the deck would be 4.5 inches wide. A 2.25 inch strip remains on either side, the outer edge will contain the launch tubes and the inner strip shops and storage. Because the landing bay is tapered at both ends, allow a setback from each end of about 4.5 inches.

If you want to play with the scale, you can make the deck bigger or the Viper and shuttle bigger. Just take the dimension and divide by the desired scale then multiply by 12. This will give the scale size in inches. For example a 3,000 foot long landing bay would be 3000/960 x 12 = 37.5 inches.

Make some miniature vipers, shuttles and conduct your own ops. See how many vipers you really could operate from just one deck. Then remember there should be one or two decks below and seven to eleven decks above. Throw in some elevators and things could get interesting. :salute:


As I recall a shuttle is 100 ft long, 40 ft wide and 50ft high, or there abouts. ;)

[Rowan]

repcisg;)

[gmd3d]

repcisg ,,Rowan do you want us to leave :blush:

on the input thing I did not mean.... ahh..I mean....aah hell its a pleasure.
Rowan you must try to resist :)

thanks for the scales repcisg i think the landing bays entrance should be larger
when the viper and shuttles land it looks wrong i would love if they reshot the effect of the Galactica like the did in starwars. :)

any how im doing a number of drawings of how i would like to see the landing bays and hope to finish them soon. :salute:

[Rowan]

Apologies Potemkin (bowes head) I am weak! :blush: I will try to resist, :) have I been a bad girl then?:D does this mean I deserve a THWACK?;)

Will we get to see your drawings? cause I love to see all the great art that others do , not being talented that way.:(

[gmd3d]

Yes I wish to post them try to get the scales right is hard though it will take some time and I don't know how great they will be but I will aprecate the view of others who know better then I. :) I like the work done by M.McAdams on the Galactica all but the landing bays. but as i said they are only for my vision of the Galactica and how she would look Internally... does any one know to what scale
M.McAdams Galactica is as it might save me a lot of time. :salute:

As to the THWACKING.. i will leave that to your conscience :D and you can report back to us later. :D with all the details hee hee :superholy

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Rowan]

Yes I wish to post them try to get the scales right is hard though it will take some time and I don't know how great they will be but I will aprecate the view of others who know better then I. :) I like the work done by M.McAdams on the Galactica all but the landing bays. but as i said they are only for my vision of the Galactica and how she would look Internally... does any one know to what scale
M.McAdams Galactica is as it might save me a lot of time. :salute:

As to the THWACKING.. i will leave that to your conscience :D and you can report back to us later. :D with all the details hee hee :superholy

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:First let me say I am looking forward then to seeing your work because I have issues as well with regards to the incorect scales we see. On one level it drives me nuts! so I try and ignore it when I'm watching or it would detract from my enjoyment.
Second all the details of my many Thwackings are in the "Who needs a thwack" thread...enjoy!;):devil:

[gmd3d]

Thank you for the intrest Rowan I would like to hear your issues with the scales for the Galactica. we may think alike.
one of the problem as I see it , Is the landing bay entrance when a Viper lands
there is not a lot of head room, then we see a shuttle landing or taking off there is loads of space.
thats the problem with putting two modals together that are of differant size's
and supposed to be differant scales.
What I am doing is for my own peace of mind and if other people argree with me
thats great and if they don't , well that great too.
wayhoo the scale im looking at is the shuttle leaving the landing bay and in my mind the 6080ft works well with that.
well I hope I don't let you down :salute:

[launchcruiser7]

somebattlestars were over 500 years old some say the stripes on the nose mean 100 years service so the galactica was over 500 years old SORCE HAND OF GOD> a ship that old and large would have many more vipers than75 ps rowen the human baby has the bigest head to body weight of any mamnal half of the brith weight of baby is head most helpless type of baby too my guess is the ship is 6080 feet long and can hold 200 vipers or 400 if packed took on all of pegasus planes most of witch were spread out though fleet 2 o3 per larger ships in fleet terra said they were leaving tho full sqrnds to defend the fleet 75 per sqd times two =150 ships :) :warrior: :cool: :salute: over 600 fighting ships with the battlestar rycon

[gmd3d]

well the Galactica could easly hold that many vipers, shuttles and landrams are another storie anyone care to guess how many shuttle and landrams onboard.
does anyone know the lenght of the Viper launch tubes??? or is there a scale anywhere to check them out??? :salute:

intresting facts about the baby :eek:

[Gforce]

http://www.tecr.com/galactica/


This is a very cool site with all kinds of starship dimensions. You can even move the ships around with respect to each other.

http://www.merzo.net/

:thumbsup:

[Stevew]

Yes it is. I almost forgot that one
S :) :)

[gmd3d]

thanks Gforce I know the site and it's cool.
have you seen the Galactica in it only 610 meters or 2000 ft long I would like to see the Galactica at the 6080 ft long or a mile long on the same page, which i think is the same size as the stardestroyer. anyway 6080 is the size im going with as it was Glen Larson orignal idea.
As I am working on the internal look of the Galactica and im looking for as much info as i can, I know the viper launch tubes are 16 ft in diameter as calulated by
Todd Boyce which is good enough for me i am looking for how long the launch tubes are. even a guess would be great.
one of the problems I have is the differance we see when a Viper land and a shuttle lands or taking off. there lost more head room when a shuttle launches.

repcisg wrote
As I recall a shuttle is 100 ft long, 40 ft wide and 50ft high, or there abouts
that size sounds right and works with todd boyce site
The Battlestar Galactica Scrapbook mentions that Dykstra's team extrapolated the length of a the shuttle from the size of the windows to be 110 feet. For practical purposes, the art director arbitrarily cut the scale in half and a 33 foot long section of the shuttle was built.

well thats what im working on and im already lossing hair so If anyone has any Idea that will help it would be great. "westy" schematic is fantastic and is giving me a lot more to go on. so anyhoo there the scales im working with. the 6080ft Galactica and 100/110 shuttle 28.5ft vipers

SO IDEAS ANY AT ALL ARE WELCOME AND I WILL INCLUDE THEM IF POSSABLE
have a look a westy's site http://www.mortalstorm.com/

:salute: :D

[Westy]

Based on a 6,080 foot length for the Galactica, here are some other dimensions:

Launch tubes:
Diameter: 22'-6"
Length: 101'-6"

Launch Bay Entrance:
Width: 146'-0"
Height: 32'-0"

Launch Tube elevation above Bay floor height: 13'-9"

I got all these dimension right off my 3D model. Seems there's some unrealistic stuff here, mostly the landing bay entrance dimensions.

[gmd3d]

thanks for the dimensions, the landing bay is giving me a headache trying to peace it together. and if the shuttles are 50 ft in Height and 110 ft long..
well you see my problem! :cry:

[Westy]

Yeah, must be some creative liberty taken in the show. Probably cuz it looked good. I'd throw caution to the wind and just make the shuttle smaller.

[gmd3d]

good idea as far as I know the shuttle used in the show the builders made it to 33ft long. so i might spilt the 110 feet and make her 50ft.
well anyway im going to work on a number of variations of the landing bay using differant scales :erk: the headache are starting again :laugh:

I will keep working on anyway

[default]

in the novels i think in number 12 or 13 they say the battlestar is HHHHHUUUUGGGGGHHHHH over a mile long i think its as big as a stardestoryer they must had more than 12 too becuse your lucky if you can keep one third of your ships in the fight think they were in shock aftre cains death and that is way they went for peacelarge enuff for cains ship to hold 300 fighters SORCE THE LIVING LEGEND WHEN THEY TOOK ON (900)RAIDERS FROM THOSE THREE BASE SHIPS :girl: :muffit: :muffit: :alien: :norats: :milk: :milk: have a CCCCCOOOOLLDDD ////????????one well be back :thumbsup: :D

[Bombadil]

It's the attention to the small details that marks the work of a true craftsman.

I keep hearing that one problem they had with TOS was insufficient time to do the scripts right, and I can see where that would be a major headache.

Now, time isn't an issue. Moore has the time to wirite the show bible carefully, and others such as yourself can work on details like exact measurements of the ship. This is nothing but good for the entire project.

If you can't find a bit of information such as the size of something, go ahead and make it up, then ask Moore to bless it. Bet he approves it.

Who knows? Someday it may MATTER that the pilot side window on a shuttle measures 37 centons long and 25 centons high. Or something.

Keep up the good work.:salute:

[gmd3d]

Thank's for the encouragement, Its a big task the Galactica is a big ship.
we are working on it

[Westy]

It'll be alot of work, but more importantly it'll be alot of fun.

[Titon]

Potemkin, are you building a cgi ship or an actual miniature?

[gmd3d]

Titon
Potemkin, are you building a cgi ship or an actual miniature?

No at least not yet we are working on designing the internal layout of the Galactica. using the dimensions for the viper, shuttle, and the Galactica herself.
It just for fun as westy has pointed out, while use are imagations to design
layout of the Battlestar.
We are starting with the landing bays and the vipers and seeing what they would look like to scale (we are using 6080 ft for the galactica and 28.5 to 30 for the vipers) later the bridge and so on and on and on, "aye it a big ship captain"
(a good scotty accent).
on the screen there as you know a Lot of images that don't add up . well we hope that this will is some way solve some of these problems for the fans of Battlestar, thats the hope.
I hope we can show you all something in a few months or sooner if possible using the wonderfull drawing on his site http://www.mortalstorm.com/ they are really great. if you have not seen then go look. really :salute:

[Ninja]

I dunno if the link below has been mentioned before but I'm sure a lot of you guys might find this interesting. It even allows you to drag ships around to compare sizes with everyday planes ect as well as other star ships from various sci-fi shows.
Very cool site indeed.

STARSHIP DIMENSIONS (http://www.merzo.net/index.html)

[gmd3d]

Hi Ninja
yeah I have seen that site it cool :salute: