View Full Version : N.Y. Observer - Richard Hatch interview (Feb. 2004)
michaelfaries
February 18th, 2004, 08:55 PM
http://www.observer.com/pages/nytv.asp
"Tuesday, Feb. 24" (?)
Richard Hatch, the 58-year-old actor who once played the dashing, feather-haired Captain Apollo on the 1978 sci-fi soap opera Battlestar Galactica, has a message on his Web site, Richardhatch.com, that neatly sums up his current situation:
"Note: The Richard Hatch of this site is not related to the winner of CBS-TV’s first Survivor show. Additionally, Richard is not participating in the new SCI-FI Channel Battlestar Galactica mini-series which is a re-imagining (remake) of the original show, not a continuation as fans had hoped for."
Mr. Hatch, a former dreamboat on the 80’s daytime drama Santa Barbara, couldn’t buy the Sci-Fi Channel’s "edgy reimagining of the 1978 television series," as the network put it, that aired in December 2003. It didn’t make him cry the way the original did.
"Even after the destruction of the colonies, there’s no tear in my eye," Mr. Hatch told NYTV from his production office in Los Angeles. "I’m seeing a bunch of destruction, but I’m not feeling anything. It just wasn’t moving …. It was as if they took everything that made Battlestar out and replaced it with their own vision."
Mr. Hatch is in for more disappointment, it seems: The network announced on Feb. 10 that it would produce 13 more episodes to begin production in Vancouver next month.
Of course, Mr. Hatch, the author of a number of Battlestar novels, had his own ideas for the show, one in which he might have had a larger role. In 1995, after attending a Star Trek convention and discovering an enormous subculture of Battlestar Galactica diehards among them, Mr. Hatch spent two years creating and test-marketing a four-minute reel that was a continuation of the original Star Wars Meets Bee Gees in Space concept, including bringing back some of the old characters to play the wizened generation to a new set of stars. He showed it to Universal in 1997.
"I laid out the case and the numbers 20 years ago and the ratings," he said. "They couldn’t visualize how you could bring back the show."
In 2002, Mr. Hatch was shocked to discover that Universal could suddenly visualize it after all: They had hired Ron Moore, the executive producer of HBO’s Carnivàle, and David Eick, a producer for Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, to tart it up for the Maxim demographic, changing a couple of male characters to buxom galaxy babes.
According to Mr. Hatch, the new show has divided fans, most of whom dislike it immensely. "It was like a fan war," he said, reiterating for effect: "It was Fan. War."
Mr. Hatch found the new version lurid. "Every five seconds somebody was throwing somebody against the wall and ripping their clothes off," he said. "I can see sex on any channel. I want to see romance. There was cleavage and sex, but no romance."
The producers offered Mr. Hatch a cameo on the show, but he turned it down.
"Having a cameo, it doesn’t feel like an honor of the original actors," he said. "It just seems like they’re using them for their name value. To do a cameo would have been an insult."
Mr. Moore, the new show’s co-producer, said he felt for Mr. Hatch, whom he met last year at Galacticon, the Battlestar Galactica convention in L.A. "I have a lot of sympathy for Richard and fans of the old show, because they were holding out hope for a show that didn’t happen," he said. But he called his version "a more mature take. It’s a more reality-based show than the original series."
Still, he hoped Mr. Hatch would eventually agree to come aboard for a few episodes. No hard feelings! "I think he’d be interesting, and the network would love to have him," he said.
But in his monthly Web-based newsletter to fans, Mr. Hatch said that he dreamed only of a distant, more hopeful future where Mr. Moore and his ilk had bit the stardust.
"I can only hope that someday soon, we’ll have channels and studios that truly understand and respect the wishes of the multi-generational and broad-based Science Fiction community."
Tonight, the Sci-Fi community comes together for a collective shrug at Stargate: SG-1. [SCIFI, 44, 8 p.m.]
Micheleh
February 18th, 2004, 09:01 PM
"But in his monthly Web-based newsletter to fans, Mr. Hatch said that he dreamed only of a distant, more hopeful future where Mr. Moore and his ilk had bit the stardust."
Now there's a loose interpretation. ;)
Muffit
February 18th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Thanks for posting this Michael :)
:muffit:
amberstar
February 19th, 2004, 03:50 AM
It is always great to hear from Richard! Thanks for posting this:)
Amber
Stevew
February 19th, 2004, 06:07 AM
Thanks Michael good to hear from you it has been a long time. Hope all is well
Keep in touch
Steve :thumbsup:
repcisg
February 19th, 2004, 08:41 AM
It is indeed great to hear from you Michael, and Richard has put in simple words what many of have felt, thanks for sharing.
Micheleh
February 19th, 2004, 11:20 AM
And, I'm pretty sure (I'll have to check), thanks to Michael Wehrahan for setting up th interview.
AlternityOrange
February 19th, 2004, 11:53 AM
"Mr. Hatch said that he dreamed only of a distant, more hopeful future where Mr. Moore and his ilk had bit the stardust.
I can only hope that someday soon, we’ll have channels and studios that truly understand and respect the wishes of the multi-generational and broad-based Science Fiction community."
So Say We All!
kingfish
February 19th, 2004, 12:44 PM
Too bad Richard doesn't come to this site and post. At this point inspiration might be needed. On a final note, if we turn our backs on our favorite show for this new trash we do it with utter contempt. Sorry to be so melodramatic.
Tibbetts
February 19th, 2004, 04:49 PM
:wtf: Well........
I can see Mr. Use-to-be is still being pissy about not getting his version off the ground. :rolleyes: He seems to be bitter in his old age. I think he needs a vacation.
I hope Larson and DeSanto don't involve him in their continuation movie. Mr. Hatch really needs to lighten up a bit and get over it.
I write this not to offend fans of the Original, because I also am a huge fan, and want a continuation, but Hatch really needs to get a life and move on. He should really focus on the "Magellan Project" I read about once. That seems like something interesting to do.
Dragon Lord Tibbetts
Antelope
February 19th, 2004, 04:58 PM
I would not assume Richard Hatch won't come around to doing a role in the Moore series. He seems more upset that he was offered a "cameo" as opposed to a role. I understand Richard Hatch's anger for it is like many other fans. I also think it must really hurt to go through the effort he did to have his concept validated by someone else. I also see a 58 year old man looking back at his fame wishing he could recapture the good old days. I would not predict he will be in the new series but with a little homage, ass kissing, nice pay check, and a good role (like Cain etc.) I could see him making an interview about how he influenced the show producers into making the series more in tune with the "real" Galactica and proud he could be part of it. I would like to see Richard Hatch come back in some form of Galactica. I hope we have not seen him the last time as a colonial warrior.
Micheleh
February 19th, 2004, 04:59 PM
Pissy? Lol... hardly. (And yes, I know this for sure.)
<------------------- :)
Gemini1999
February 19th, 2004, 06:53 PM
Pissy? Lol... hardly. (And yes, I know this for sure.)
Micheleh -
I don't think that I would ever call Richard pissy..... He really seems like the kind of guy that has both feet on the ground, but has his eyes on the stars. I didn't ever get the feeling like he thought that BSG was a way to get his "fame" back either - as I recall, he said once that he didn't keep much stuff from the old days. He has a business of his own and acts occasionally, but hardly a starving "used-to-be".
I admire his ambition to strive to really do something more than just sit on his laurels and dwell on the past. The one thing about him though, he just isn't the kind of guy to get to the top on the backs of others - unlike a lot of people in the entertainment industry. Hey, anyone that can turn down a cameo (to be read as "crappy bit part") when he's a bit in debt, that's a man with priniciples!
Best to you,
Bryan
________
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jewels
February 19th, 2004, 09:13 PM
:wtf: Well........
I can see Mr. Use-to-be is still being pissy about not getting his version off the ground. :rolleyes: He seems to be bitter in his old age. I think he needs a vacation.
I hope Larson and DeSanto don't involve him in their continuation movie. Mr. Hatch really needs to lighten up a bit and get over it.
I write this not to offend fans of the Original, because I also am a huge fan, and want a continuation, but Hatch really needs to get a life and move on. He should really focus on the "Magellan Project" I read about once. That seems like something interesting to do.
Dragon Lord Tibbetts
Um, Richard's about the least bitter guy you're ever going to meet. He's frank about what he feels but he doesn't bear ill towards Moore. He might despise the direction Moore took with BSG. From what I understand, more because he's convinced (as are a lot of the folks from the original show) that Moore could have done better or been upfront and ditched the BSG references and done his own show.
And Richard's always got tons of other stuff going on, so it's really just these interview snippets that make it look like he hasn't moved on.
Tibbetts
February 20th, 2004, 01:59 PM
Um, Richard's about the least bitter guy you're ever going to meet. He's frank about what he feels but he doesn't bear ill towards Moore. He might despise the direction Moore took with BSG. From what I understand, more because he's convinced (as are a lot of the folks from the original show) that Moore could have done better or been upfront and ditched the BSG references and done his own show.
And Richard's always got tons of other stuff going on, so it's really just these interview snippets that make it look like he hasn't moved on.
I said it "seems" like he's bitter. That how the Article read to me. Whether he truly is or not, I don't know. I don't know the guy from a hole in the ground to be honest with ya.
I said somewhere on another board that I wouldn't mind seeing Mr. Hatch portray Cain on Battlestar Galactica(RM). I still believe he'd make a great Cain on BG(RM). If Ron Moore is willing to ask him to do that role and he(RH) is willing to accept, I for one, sure as hell wouldn't mind.
With Respect,
Dragon Lord Tibbetts :salute:
kingfish
February 20th, 2004, 05:09 PM
I DON'T want to see Richard or any other tos star on Moore's show. That only justifies Ron's vision of Galactica which I don't care for in the least. I want to see Richard and Dirk as the characters that inspired me to watch tos in the first place.
shiningstar
February 20th, 2004, 05:30 PM
"But in his monthly Web-based newsletter to fans, Mr. Hatch said that he dreamed only of a distant, more hopeful future where Mr. Moore and his ilk had bit the stardust."
Now there's a loose interpretation. ;)
My "Thoughts" exactly! :thumbsup: :salute: :thumbsup:
shiningstar
February 20th, 2004, 05:32 PM
I DON'T want to see Richard or any other tos star on Moore's show. That only justifies Ron's vision of Galactica which I don't care for in the least. I want to see Richard and Dirk as the characters that inspired me to watch tos in the first place.
Kingfish I sooooooooooo agree with you. I think it's just another
slap in the face of the fans. As for some of the people on this site
who so STRIGENTLY dissagree with us while CLAIMING to be fans
of the ORIGINAL BSG ..........(while SLAMMING IT......whenever
possible)...........................TOUGH. You have YOUR opinion.......
WE have OURS.
Titon
February 21st, 2004, 06:20 AM
I guess i've never truely met more of a true visionary than Richard. Speaking to him it's like opening up a childs world where dreams become reality. He truely is quite and individual. I don't think Richard needs to "get over" anything. The individuals that need to "get over it" are those that currently reside on the top of Hollywoods food chain. It's just utterly amazing how they continue to try and rewrite history constantly. There's nothing new, fresh, cutting edge unless it's primetime viewing of the next spider crawling on a bikini wearing babe.
Sex sells folks. It's a concept that's been around for generations. It was in the original Galactica but within that realm you not only had the element but passion and romance to go along with it. Where is that in today's hollywood? Where's the drive to make something truely inspirational? To me it's missing, gone and until hollywood does what Richard says and creates tv that we all can enjoy in some way. Right now it's one bad show after another. One bad concept after another.
When Galactica came out in 1978 it was grand. There was press releases, public interviews that everyone knew about. Toys, cards, books, lunch boxes ect. ect. ect. Where's the overwhelming publicity with the new Galactica? I don't see it. The series has been announced but where's the drive? Where's the overwhelming push that we seem to see from other series announcements? To me it's still up in the air.
So we wait and see. I for one think it would be a big mistake by Larson and DeSanto to leave Richard out of a continuation puzzle. If they leave him out it won't be the same. But hey i'm willing to listen to that. Simply because the window would always be open for Richard in a continuation. It's not there for him in Moore's.
:)
Tibbetts
February 21st, 2004, 07:46 AM
Kingfish I sooooooooooo agree with you. I think it's just another
slap in the face of the fans. As for some of the people on this site
who so STRIGENTLY dissagree with us while CLAIMING to be fans
of the ORIGINAL BSG ..........(while SLAMMING IT......whenever
possible)...........................TOUGH. You have YOUR opinion.......
WE have OURS.
Did I "slam" the original? No.
Dragon Lord Tibbetts
BST
February 21st, 2004, 07:51 AM
(According to Mr. Moore).....he called his version "a more mature take. It’s a more reality-based show than the original series."
"That is ONE opinion, it does not happen to be mine."
Still, he hoped Mr. Hatch would eventually agree to come aboard for a few episodes. No hard feelings! "I think he’d be interesting, and the network would love to have him," he (Moore) said.
Oh, they are praying that some of the original actors "come on board". What better way to silence the folks clamoring for a continuation. Skiffy's and Moore's hope is that we will just "go away" and if our 'heroes', so to speak, were to cross the line, that could very well happen. We're still a thorn in their side.
"I can only hope that someday soon, we’ll have channels and studios that truly understand and respect the wishes of the multi-generational and broad-based Science Fiction community."
I echo this sentiment. Why is it that the "hollywood-types" always seem to think they know more than the folks that watch their shows. They don't listen to what the people want and then, (amazingly) wonder why the shows they produce go quickly into "the round file". I am rather "bored" with today's, uh, "sophisticated tastes".
:rolleyes:
"So Say Can You See?"
shiningstar
February 21st, 2004, 09:18 AM
I guess i've never truely met more of a true visionary than Richard. Speaking to him it's like opening up a childs world where dreams become reality. He truely is quite and individual. I don't think Richard needs to "get over" anything. The individuals that need to "get over it" are those that currently reside on the top of Hollywoods food chain. It's just utterly amazing how they continue to try and rewrite history constantly. There's nothing new, fresh, cutting edge unless it's primetime viewing of the next spider crawling on a bikini wearing babe.
Sex sells folks. It's a concept that's been around for generations. It was in the original Galactica but within that realm you not only had the element but passion and romance to go along with it. Where is that in today's hollywood? Where's the drive to make something truely inspirational? To me it's missing, gone and until hollywood does what Richard says and creates tv that we all can enjoy in some way. Right now it's one bad show after another. One bad concept after another.
When Galactica came out in 1978 it was grand. There was press releases, public interviews that everyone knew about. Toys, cards, books, lunch boxes ect. ect. ect. Where's the overwhelming publicity with the new Galactica? I don't see it. The series has been announced but where's the drive? Where's the overwhelming push that we seem to see from other series announcements? To me it's still up in the air.
So we wait and see. I for one think it would be a big mistake by Larson and DeSanto to leave Richard out of a continuation puzzle. If they leave him out it won't be the same. But hey i'm willing to listen to that. Simply because the window would always be open for Richard in a continuation. It's not there for him in Moore's.
:)
Excellent post Titon as always thank you for your insight and for your thoughts.
Titon
February 21st, 2004, 10:25 AM
Excellent post Titon as always thank you for your insight and for your thoughts.
:)
Going back to Richard, i've expressed my own feelings on how the man works. Having worked with him in a professional copacity (freelance artist) i can tell you he can be a bugger to work with. But vision he does not lack and i truely believe that soon we'll know just how visionary he really is.
Oh by the way for those that have personally talked with Richard there is absolutely no holding back by the man when it comes to Galactica. He'll tell you what he really thinks about how Universal/Scifi has handled the property. I know for a fact that the man can swear with the best of them. BELIEVE me.
:)
shiningstar
February 21st, 2004, 10:35 AM
:)
Going back to Richard, i've expressed my own feelings on how the man works. Having worked with him in a professional copacity (freelance artist) i can tell you he can be a bugger to work with. But vision he does not lack and i truely believe that soon we'll know just how visionary he really is.
Oh by the way for those that have personally talked with Richard there is absolutely no holding back by the man when it comes to Galactica. He'll tell you what he really thinks about how Universal/Scifi has handled the property. I know for a fact that the man can swear with the best of them. BELIEVE me.
:)
I believe you .......... TRUST ME ...........I believe you .............. :warrior:
jewels
February 21st, 2004, 10:44 AM
I'd have to agree with everything Titon said plus add this: You can't think of Richard without words like enthusiasm and passion. Vision is there and he can be a bugger to work with (most visionaries are!), but the depth of the man's enthusiasm and passion are virtually boundless. I just hope someone will see and understand just how good and grand and special Magellan is. It's got something that whether you like sci-fi, fantasy or action-adventure, or epic tales: it has it all. Plus the wholehearted belief by the creator in the story they've created. It flows in with Farscape, Firefly and especially B5 in that regard. Plus really cool spaceships that do some insanely wonderful things.
shiningstar
February 21st, 2004, 11:01 AM
I'd have to agree with everything Titon said plus add this: You can't think of Richard without words like enthusiasm and passion. Vision is there and he can be a bugger to work with (most visionaries are!), but the depth of the man's enthusiasm and passion are virtually boundless. I just hope someone will see and understand just how good and grand and special Magellan is. It's got something that whether you like sci-fi, fantasy or action-adventure, or epic tales: it has it all. Plus the wholehearted belief by the creator in the story they've created. It flows in with Farscape, Firefly and especially B5 in that regard. Plus really cool spaceships that do some insanely wonderful things.
Very well written ................ One thing I'd like to add to those who say
Richard is a very BITTER person trying to 'recapture' past glory. Richard
was offered many, many scripts even AFTER BSG. He turned them down
because he believed in BSG.
He's not trying to 'recapture' lost glory. He's trying to protect that
'glory' (the glory of the BSG/TOS universe) from people like BH and RDM.
Titon
February 21st, 2004, 11:17 AM
For the life of me i can't figure this out to be honest. One underlying thing has always boggled my mind. Why?
In Glen's speech he basically stated that Galactica was special. The fans clammored for years for him to revive Galactica but he sat on his hands until Richard pushed his buttons. Then it became bitter. Instead of concentrating on assisting each other to accomplish the ultimate goal it became personal.
Well here we are Glen, its' in your court once again. Will you play ball or sit on your ass again?
;)
kingfish
February 21st, 2004, 12:23 PM
Very well written ................ One thing I'd like to add to those who say
Richard is a very BITTER person trying to 'recapture' past glory. Richard
was offered many, many scripts even AFTER BSG. He turned them down
because he believed in BSG.
He's not trying to 'recapture' lost glory. He's trying to protect that
'glory' (the glory of the BSG/TOS universe) from people like BH and RDM.
From what I heard, Richard auditioned for the role of commanding officer on B5. Too bad he didn't get it. I could have happily seen Richard as Sheridan for 4 years.
kingfish
February 21st, 2004, 12:25 PM
For the life of me i can't figure this out to be honest. One underlying thing has always boggled my mind. Why?
In Glen's speech he basically stated that Galactica was special. The fans clammored for years for him to revive Galactica but he sat on his hands until Richard pushed his buttons. Then it became bitter. Instead of concentrating on assisting each other to accomplish the ultimate goal it became personal.
Well here we are Glen, its' in your court once again. Will you play ball or sit on your ass again?
;)
Hopefully we will not be too feeble to enjoy it. :D
shiningstar
February 21st, 2004, 12:38 PM
Hopefully we will not be too feeble to enjoy it. :D
I soooooooooooooooooooooo AGREE!
shiningstar
February 21st, 2004, 12:40 PM
From what I heard, Richard auditioned for the role of commanding officer on B5. Too bad he didn't get it. I could have happily seen Richard as Sheridan for 4 years.
Yes it is ............ not that the ones who did play the commanders weren't
good. I sure would have enjoyed Richard Hatch on B5.
kingfish
February 21st, 2004, 05:40 PM
My favorite was Sinclair who was portrayed by Michael O'Hare. Boy could he act.
shiningstar
February 21st, 2004, 05:56 PM
My favorite was Sinclair who was portrayed by Michael O'Hare. Boy could he act.
He was my all time favorite B5 commander too. He's a fantastic Actor!
dec5
February 21st, 2004, 07:45 PM
After reading this article...I find I am a bit torn between the two opinions on BG2003.
I understand Mr. Hatch's bitterness.....or at least his dissapointment on what has happend. I spent the TOS years fuming at Maren Jensens part being cut and the Adama family being shoved aside for characters that came from no where.
shiningstar
February 21st, 2004, 07:50 PM
After reading this article...I find I am a bit torn between the two opinions on BG2003.
I understand Mr. Hatch's bitterness.....or at least his dissapointment on what has happen happend. I spent the TOS years fuming at Maren Jensens part being cut and the Adama family being shoved aside for characters that came from no where.
I was less then pleased myself when both the part of Boxey and of Athena
were simply 'written OFF' the show. At least with Richard keeping BSG
alive all these years these two characters can come back in any continueation
in the TOS universe.
ViperTech
February 22nd, 2004, 12:44 AM
http://www.observer.com/pages/nytv.asp
"I have a lot of sympathy for Richard and fans of the old show, because they were holding out hope for a show that didn’t happen," he said. But he called his version "a more mature take. It’s a more reality-based show than the original series."
Giving up hope is big with Moore. First he takes it from his characters with the "reality" that there is no earth, then he drops hints to convince TOS fans to give up on future BG-TOS stuff. I have a lot of sympathy for him.
Dudes having sex with machines and the memories of them sounds like fantasy, not reality to me.
To me, more mature means more unlikable, much more boring. As Moore continues to expand his unlikable characters, he'll have us all rooting for the Cylons.
Darth Marley
February 22nd, 2004, 12:50 AM
Maybe rooting for the Cylons will help the "healing process" for disappointed fans!
This could really be a galvanizing idea at cylon.org.
You can post a weekly "confirmed kill" count and cheer each time a character you hate dies.
shiningstar
February 22nd, 2004, 05:36 PM
Maybe rooting for the Cylons will help the "healing process" for disappointed fans!
This could really be a galvanizing idea at cylon.org.
You can post a weekly "confirmed kill" count and cheer each time a character you hate dies.
As I will not be WATCHING the MINI series ........I will not be
rooting for ANYONE .............................................................
not in THAT show anyway
braxiss
February 22nd, 2004, 07:55 PM
Giving up hope is big with Moore. First he takes it from his characters with the "reality" that there is no earth, then he drops hints to convince TOS fans to give up on future BG-TOS stuff. I have a lot of sympathy for him.
Dudes having sex with machines and the memories of them sounds like fantasy, not reality to me.
To me, more mature means more unlikable, much more boring. As Moore continues to expand his unlikable characters, he'll have us all rooting for the Cylons.
i like the way this was stated. if you like the mini great i hope you enjoy it, i'm just a humble tos fan that dosen't like change
Rowan
February 22nd, 2004, 10:14 PM
Maaayyybbeebe the charachters we THINK are Cylons are infact humans and the "humans" don't realize that they are INFACT the Cylons mmmmmm;)
The Rain
February 22nd, 2004, 10:33 PM
BAH! Money talks and bitterness walks.
You can't tell me he ain't bitter. It's in his quotes. He puts a brave face on for the fans. And that's fine. But I'll bet a case of my favorite IPA he'll bite on the Cain role.
:salute:
angry penguin
February 22nd, 2004, 11:00 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell. :) Also from his comments, I got the feeling that he was frustrated. But, that's me.
Micheleh
February 23rd, 2004, 09:23 AM
"You can't tell me he ain't bitter. It's in his quotes."
Well, yes, as a matter of fact I can. ;)
(You can send the case of whatever-that-is to the Galacticon address, thanks!)
:D
shiningstar
February 23rd, 2004, 09:30 AM
BAH! Money talks and bitterness walks.
You can't tell me he ain't bitter. It's in his quotes. He puts a brave face on for the fans. And that's fine. But I'll bet a case of my favorite IPA he'll bite on the Cain role.
:salute:
Obviously you didn't read the same QUOTES that are in the article with
RICHARD HATCH ............... I did ...........and I think I and the majority of
people on this forum got a very DIFFERENT message then the one
you are trying to promote.
Dawg
February 23rd, 2004, 09:53 AM
Micheleh: IPA = India Pale Ale
:beer::beer:
;)
I am
Dawg
:warrior:
Micheleh
February 23rd, 2004, 10:09 AM
Oh! Yippee! Thanks, Rain! :D
*Looks forward to a cold 'un after all this hard work.*
jewels
February 23rd, 2004, 10:36 AM
"You can't tell me he ain't bitter. It's in his quotes."
Well, yes, as a matter of fact I can. ;)
(You can send the case of whatever-that-is to the Galacticon address, thanks!)
:D I can too (vouch that it isn't bitterness). Want to split the case, Micheleh?....of course if it's alcohol, it's best if it all goes to you. ;) ::edit: just saw what Dawg said IPA was..... :/: it's all your's m'dear. :D Now if it was high end ginger ale, you'd have a fight on your hands.... ;)
Another thing I will say for Richard: incredible mind. Get him rolling on a topic and it's fun to keep pace. I'd hate to be an interviewer, you would have to either know shorthand or tape record it: he packs a lot of thought and substance into what he says. Interviewer's have their own filters that they present their articles through. Most of them are fairly objective, but they are mere human's too and their own views will sometimes cast another's words into meanings that were not intended by the interviewee.
shiningstar
February 23rd, 2004, 10:50 AM
"You can't tell me he ain't bitter. It's in his quotes."
Well, yes, as a matter of fact I can. ;)
(You can send the case of whatever-that-is to the Galacticon address, thanks!)
:D
:warrior: :warrior: :warrior:
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Have a few on me Micheleh! :salute:
Gemini1999
February 23rd, 2004, 11:28 AM
Hi everyone -
I'm not really chiding anyone here, but I'm really surprised that someone would argue the point as to what Richard's viewpoint is, armed with nothing more than personal opinion against those that actually know him and how he perceives things. I think that it is really great that there are people here that are close to Richard and are in contact with him on a regular basis. He's definitely not the wounded prima donna that some are trying to make him out to be.
Do I think he's bitter? Not really. Maybe a bit protective about something that he is quite passionate about and has put a lot of time and money into. If anyone had done as much and come up with less that what they were hoping for, I'm sure that they would share the same viewpoint. I think that those that have been around here for a long time know exactly what I am talking about...
Best,
Bryan
________
Portable size travel herbal vaporizer with case (http://vaporizerinfo.com/)
repcisg
February 23rd, 2004, 11:50 AM
I don’t think Richard is bitter, but rather frustrated. He sees in Galactica a property that if nurtured and carefully developed could surpass Star Trek or Star Wars in value. Instead what he sees is a bunch business hacks using it for short term gain and not seeing it as a property with enormous long term potential.
I’ve seen this in other industries, and know his frustration. It can be painful at times. All you can do is move on, standing around being bitter serves no purpose. His development of GwoM clearly shows he has indeed moved on.
jewels
February 23rd, 2004, 04:15 PM
Rep, I think you have hit it perfectly.
shiningstar
February 23rd, 2004, 04:21 PM
Hi everyone -
I'm not really chiding anyone here, but I'm really surprised that someone would argue the point as to what Richard's viewpoint is, armed with nothing more than personal opinion against those that actually know him and how he perceives things. I think that it is really great that there are people here that are close to Richard and are in contact with him on a regular basis. He's definitely not the wounded prima donna that some are trying to make him out to be.
Do I think he's bitter? Not really. Maybe a bit protective about something that he is quite passionate about and has put a lot of time and money into. If anyone had done as much and come up with less that what they were hoping for, I'm sure that they would share the same viewpoint. I think that those that have been around here for a long time know exactly what I am talking about...
Best,
Bryan
Well written Bryan. Keep posting.
shiningstar
February 23rd, 2004, 04:23 PM
I don’t think Richard is bitter, but rather frustrated. He sees in Galactica a property that if nurtured and carefully developed could surpass Star Trek or Star Wars in value. Instead what he sees is a bunch business hacks using it for short term gain and not seeing it as a property with enormous long term potential.
I’ve seen this in other industries, and know his frustration. It can be painful at times. All you can do is move on, standing around being bitter serves no purpose. His development of GwoM clearly shows he has indeed moved on.
Well said Repcisg. I think you are a very insightful person as this is
a rather insightful post. :thumbsup:
Antelope
February 23rd, 2004, 05:23 PM
I don't know Richard Hatch personally but if you read his various interviews you see a person angry about the situation and I don't blame him for that but also a person keeping his options open. I think many of us want to see in him what we believe about the situation. I don't know if he'll take a role in the series if offered but it wouldn't surprise me. I also notice he is not very thrilled about the Desanto story either which puts him in agreement with me on that subject. I also see little desire on the part of Hatch to support a Continuation that starts out on the day TOS ended with new actors. The fact that the subject seems to never comes up says something to me. I don't like the idea of what Hatch did with Cassiopeia, Athena, Apollo and Starbuck in the love area in his books but everyone can enjoy all the various Galactica's without needing to agree with everything in them!
Muffit
February 23rd, 2004, 05:37 PM
I don't like the idea of what Hatch did with Cassiopeia, Athena, Apollo and Starbuck in the love area in his books but everyone can enjoy all the various Galactica's without needing to agree with everything in them!
Very truly said antelope. We don't have to agree on everything to be friends and share our all encompassing love of BSG. :)
:muffit:
Micheleh
February 23rd, 2004, 06:38 PM
I also see little desire on the part of Hatch to support a Continuation that starts out on the day TOS ended with new actors.
You know, I don't rememebr anyone ever proposing anything like that, now that you mention it. I'm surprised that idea got missed... anyone?
dilbertman
February 23rd, 2004, 08:30 PM
You know, I don't rememebr anyone ever proposing anything like that, now that you mention it. I'm surprised that idea got missed... anyone?
I believe someone at one of the mini forum sites talked about Larson doing that. But they turned out to be a Ted Clone.
Jim :salute:
shiningstar
February 24th, 2004, 08:04 AM
Jim there were alot of THOSE ............I remember being stalked by one of the clones ........
till I found out who was who and had my lawyer do a little chewing on WHATIZ congeniality's Assets .................... that stopped the stalking reaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll
quick.
shiningstar
February 24th, 2004, 08:05 AM
Jim there were alot of THOSE ............I remember being stalked by one of the clones ........
till I found out who was who and had my lawyer do a little chewing on WHATIZ congeniality's Assets .................... that stopped the stalking reaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll
quick.
Just a quick lesson Ya'll ........................................
Never mess with a lady who is OUT of MIDOL ;)
Big MISTAKE
Muffit
February 24th, 2004, 08:42 AM
Just a quick lesson Ya'll ........................................
Never mess with a lady who is OUT of MIDOL ;)
Big MISTAKE
LOL Shiningstar! :laugh:
:muffit:
shiningstar
February 24th, 2004, 09:59 AM
LOL Shiningstar! :laugh:
:muffit:
;) ;)
repcisg
February 24th, 2004, 10:36 AM
No Midol?
I can relate to that
*rubs scars*
shiningstar
February 24th, 2004, 10:59 AM
No Midol?
I can relate to that
*rubs scars*
So can my stalker ............... ;)
repcisg
February 24th, 2004, 12:28 PM
My daughter, my Ex, no Midol - I run, max speed, for the nearest exit. Leave town if possible.
I rarely make it though... *rubs more scars*
shiningstar
February 24th, 2004, 01:16 PM
My daughter, my Ex, no Midol - I run, max speed, for the nearest exit. Leave town if possible.
I rarely make it though... *rubs more scars*
I'll keep you in my prayers ..........In my case
even with NO MIDOL ...........I never STRIKE
unless PROVOKED :cool:
And thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
:hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :rage: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :hack: :rage:
shirley_vores
April 13th, 2004, 01:32 PM
:wtf: Well........
I can see Mr. Use-to-be is still being pissy about not getting his version off the ground. :rolleyes: He seems to be bitter in his old age. I think he needs a vacation.
I hope Larson and DeSanto don't involve him in their continuation movie. Mr. Hatch really needs to lighten up a bit and get over it.
I write this not to offend fans of the Original, because I also am a huge fan, and want a continuation, but Hatch really needs to get a life and move on. He should really focus on the "Magellan Project" I read about once. That seems like something interesting to do.
Dragon Lord Tibbetts
It's a pity that some people have no loyalty like Richard Hatch, the detruction of the new show should concern us all because without the original and people like Richard and myself there would not be battlestar galactica.
Micheleh
April 13th, 2004, 01:47 PM
It's a pity that some people have no loyalty like Richard Hatch, the detruction of the new show should concern us all because without the original and people like Richard and myself there would not be battlestar galactica.
Lol, OK, I'm confused now. :confused:
Muffit
April 13th, 2004, 04:12 PM
Welcome to Colonial Fleets Shirley :)
:muffit:
shiningstar
April 13th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Lol, OK, I'm confused now. :confused:
I hope I'm not sticking my foot in my mouth here.
But I think the point is .......... that by taking the role ...........
there are some people here for feel that he was being disloyal
to longtime fans of the original BSG.
At the same time though .........RICHARD HATCH is the one who
helped keep TOS alive in the first place by writing the novels and
attending the conventions.
So while people are upset with him taking the role .................
they and I for that matter can not help but be greatful to him
for keeping Battlestar Galactica alive in the first place.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone here. :wtf:
I was only trying to help.
Micheleh
April 13th, 2004, 08:34 PM
I totally agree. I just thought it was kind of cute, the "without the original and people like Richard and myself..."
;)
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