Ron D. Moore Addresses the SIX EPISODES supposedly ordered by the SCI FI Channel

[The One]

Here is an interesting posting from Ron D. Moore addressing the so-called "Six Episode Commitment" posted by Cinescape that supposedly was ordered by SCI FI Channel...


Date: 01/26/2004
From: larocque6689

Here is Ron D. Moore's response to an email query on the Cinescape 6-episode report:

Quote:
There has not been an order for 6 episodes or any other number yet. We're still in financial discussions with the studio and network and no decision has been made, but should be made this week. While I don't really know whether a physical office has been opened in Vancouver -- which doesn't really matter one way or the other, since an office could be opened in order to coordinate striking the sets and seeing to the final disposition of wardrobe, props, etc. just as easily as to set up for preproduction -- I do know that no "show-runner" has been hired, other than...

[The One]

I found this posting very interesting...

Note how Ron D. Moore says that a production office could very well be set up to *finalize disposition of sets, wardrobe, props, etc...or could have been set up for pre-production which he has no idea since no episodes have been ordered nor has there been a go ahead for pre-production...

disposition: n, 1. arrangement, disposal, organization

(Shrugs)...very interesting,,,very interesting indeed,,,

[The One]

I accidently cut off the last few words of Ron's...

It is suppose to read:

"...I do know that no new show runner has hired, other than myself."

Sorry about that...my appologizes!

[The One]

Oh, oh...

I just realized that maybe this so-called production listing on the Teamsters Local is for organizing drivers to deal with transporter wardrobe and sets to be disposed which means why everthing is so vague and hush, hush...

And also, Aaron Douglas mentioned about being able to call the so-called Production office and getting an answering machine which I found very, very odd...

Oh, oh...something is not right...something is very strange here!

No wonder why there is no shooting schedule on the Teamster's Production list...

Someone jumped to conclusions too quickly...which actually is what I am doing...YIKES!

But...when I think about all of this...IT ALL ADDS UP TO...TO...

(shrugs)

Who knows...

Over and out!

[The One]

I just realized that the *disposition* comment by Ron D. Moore was the first negative remark he has made regardind anything related to his "Galactica"...

I don't ever recall him (Ron) ever bringing that kind of defeatest annotation to his postings...

[larocque6689]

I don't ever recall him (Ron) ever bringing that kind of defeatest annotation to his postings... [/B]

This is my take on his comments.

Firstly - he remains the showrunner of the production. And secondly, that if there is a production office open (something he's personally unaware of) it could point to either final dismantlement of the sets or series preproduction. Simply put: he doesn't know. He's stated
that talks are ongoing, SciFi has NOT made a decision on this series, and he expects one will be forthcoming very soon.

I don't think he's being defeatist, but I think he has a good take on the situation and where it can go. I'd like to publically thank Ron for continuing the information pipeline.

[koenigrules]

I concur with larocque6689's comments.
In fact, I would evm go one step further to state the decision for a "go" will happen this week!
Stay tuned!

[The One]

I concur wrote: January 27th, 2004 05:30 AM

I concur with larocque6689's comments.
In fact, I would evm go one step further to state the decision for a "go" will happen this week!
Stay tuned!


"You're looking for proof, but you're looking for the wrong
kind. All you want is something to titillate your curiosity, satisfy your lust for miracles. The only proof you're going to get is what looks like the absence of proof."

-Jesus Christ-

*I just found it interesting that as we get closer to the deadline...he (Ron) made that interesting comment (disposition) which really was unneccessary to speculate on...

I think that principle of Ockham's Razor (Occam's) could be applied regarding all the rumours and Ron Moore's comments...

I think that there is something fishy going on...

[koenigrules]

A more extensive RDM interview will be posted shortly on the galactica2003.net site.
A teaser of that interview indicates RDM will be the show-runner & that a launch of BSG would probably happen in the summer months.
Let's wait & see here before we conclude "something fishy is going on!"
Take it or leave it!!

[The One]

I am not sure why Ron D. Moore *WOULD NOT* be the showrunner...

Why would the SCI FI Channel hire another *NEW* showrunner...that wouldn't make any sense...

The whole issue in the beginning with the reimagining of "Battlestar Galactica" was Ron's to begin with so it would be absolutely absurd to dismiss his duties in the possible episodic run of "Galactica 2004"...What would be the point?

Also, I think that a summer 2004 production start of Galactica is far more realistic than the rumoured February or April start since a decision seems to be dragging out...

Everyday that the negotiations keep dragging on...a start date will get pushed further into the year...

This assumption agrees with me...that is more like it...

[koenigrules]

You misread me on ONE point:
by launch RDM meant airing on Sci-Fi in summer so production work would begin in the next few months.
Let's wait for that interview, shall we?
Thanks for your prompt feedback.

:cool:

[The One]

Oh...hmmm....yes...I see, I see...I didn't misread you...you didn't word your point correctly...

Koenigrules wrote:

"A teaser of that interview indicates RDM will be the show-runner & that a launch of BSG would probably happen in the summer months."

*A Launch*...which doesn't imply an airing...not sure why I would have known you meant airing...(shrugs)

Anyways, I got your point now! Thanks!

Are you sure you didn't interpret Ron D. Moore's point on a so-called launch?

Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know, drop it!

See ya!

[jewels]

Until RDM knows something, don't work yourselves up.

I think you are probably reading into RDM's statement too much, The One. I think he's just stating a business fact: to dispose of sets, any production would have a temp office set up, so an office on the teamster list doesn't mean anything conclusive. He knows enough about fans to know that they would read tea leaves if it would give them an answer. He's just trying to be neutral until there is news.

Until something's officially said at Skiffy, all is speculation.

[The One]

Tea leaves? WHAT?!?

That's what I have been doing...I been using Tea Leaves for years...and all my postings are based on this readings!

For crying out loud! Geez...

Now all I have is my trusty back 8 ball...

Thanks a lot...thanks for spoiling everything for me!

(mumbles off in the distance)

[jewels]

:laugh:

[The One]

I read a small snipet from the interview with Ron D. Moore...or supposedly from Ron D. Moore over at www.galactica2003.net

The question I ask is when did this interview take place?

It will be absolutely ridiculous if this interview was done awhile ago when Galactica was hot, hot, hot...

Now it is like luke warm water...just how *Derek Smalls" from Spinal Tap describes his role in the band...

This interview has nothing saying it was done recently...this week, last week, last year...who interviewed Ron, when, where, why and how? You know what I mean...

Does anyone have any answers?

[Darth Marley]

Well, you will become familiar with all the characters within fandom in due course.
What answers I could offer are just opinion.
And there has been enough mud slung.
Just read it if you like once it is posted, and reach your own conclusion.

[Darth Marley]

Yes, the interview is posted.
No earthshattering announcements.
Money is tight, and execs have not given the word.
Some revelations about RDM's thought on "Living Legend" and "Ship of Lights" in the miniverse.
He seemed to indicate that (assuming series go) there will not be much in terms of humanoid aliens (low make-up budget will help keep this pure). Nor would much of the action be combat related ( low special effects budget).
Claimed first show is written.

[slider]

That is too bad there is not much money for effects, props, costumes, and other stuff.

Did Ron Moore mention anything about Deep Trash's idea to have Boomer and the other Viper pilots fly naked? This would save money on costumes and improve ratings.

[Darth Marley]

I don't see any indication that RDM has concidered DT's innovative suggestions.

Things look bleak for the Hector & Vector reimagining.

Still, nothing here for anyone to pin hopes on.

[slider]

Maybe someone is holding out for too much money and a game of chicken is going on.

I feel for the fans of the new series. Hopefully after the merger, a new president will take over at Sci Fi Channel. It is hard to image things getting any worse.

[koenigrules]

In the galactica2003.com, under NEWS it states the interview was conducted on the 26th- which is yesterday so its current.

[koenigrules]

Sorry I listed the site address wrong, but you know which one it is, right?
Again,I apologize for the error.

[The One]

That was a very interesting interview and my assumtions were pretty much correct...No decison, no six episodes...the production office is up in the air...there could be one or not and Ron Moore has no idea about that...

It is nice to know that when you ask around town (Vancouver)....when I ask my friends for a source of information...it is correct...It is a nice feeling to know that and to know that the facts are the truth and not just a falsity resulting in ignorance!

But as far as he (Ron) is concerned...there is no deal yet so where these rumours came from...(shrugs)...I find it interesting that someone started the rumours...stupid if you ask me! Those false sources gotta a lot of guts if you ask me...

But then someone will probably come out still saying that the show is possibly greenlit! *shrugs*

Well, that would be nice of them to do all of this behind Ron D. Moore's back! (sarcastically said)


The truth is out there!

[The One]

Here is the interview:

www.galactica2003.net/articles/moore012704.shtml

[The One]

Oh, I guess the link doesn't work...

Does anyone know how to bypass the banned link site so everyone has access to read the interview so they can make their own assumptions!

There are many answers given by Ron D. Moore about all the rumours! It is very, very, very informative!

[The One]

posted: January 27, 2004 7:15 AM GMT


(Interview was conducted on January 26, 2004 by Farvoyager.)

The cats already know the drill. They are impatiently waiting in my room while I wait for the phone to ring. For the twentieth time, I do a sound check on my recorder. All appears to be working well. Good.

Then the phone rings. Its Ron Moore’s office calling. His Personal Assistant says she will connect me.

I listen to the funky California radio station on the phone while I wait.

His Personal Assistant comes back on... he must be in a bad reception area, she says, she can’t reach him on his cell phone. She reassures me that she’ll keep trying and that she’ll call back as soon as she has him.

Meanwhile, I’m wondering how I will explain this to the Web Masters of Galactica2003? They will be so disappointed. My cats on the other hand, would be thrilled to get out of the bedroom sooner.

The phone rings again!

Its Ron Moore’s Assistant again. She has Ron on the line. Sorry cats.

Battlestar Galactica 2003: I sound like the cell phone guy. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now?

Ronald D. Moore: Yeah..

BG2003: Well I guess I’d like to start by... I’d like to know how much time do you have.

RM: I’ve got a little while.

BG2003: I guess I’d like to begin by saying I’m a big fan of Battlestar Galactica, since I was a kid I really enjoyed the old one and I’m excited about the new one also and really impressed with the changes that have been made. I’m sure you’re aware of some of the rumors that have been floating around regarding the status of the mini. Any comment on that?

RM: Nothings been decided yet.

BG2003: uh huh.

RM: I’ve got some e-mails about the rumors as well, that there was a 6 hour pickup, and none of its true, I mean, they haven’t made a decision. I just spoke with the studio today and they’re continuing the, its sort of all financial, budgetary discussions that are way above my head. They’re all dealing with the corporate level, you know, because the studio and the network are both owned by the same parent. And they’re deciding how much they want to deficit on the show, how much the studio will deficit on the show how much the network pays for license fee what are the broadcast windows what are the other licensing partners, I mean its just all of these sort of complicated financial discussions, which is... they want time to try and figure those things out which is why they extended the actor contracts until the end of January but to date they haven’t ...

BG2003: ...right...

RM: ...neither picked it up nor canceled it so we’re still waiting.

BG2003: ...and the end of January’s just a few days away.

RM: yeah essentially I think we’re going to have to have some kind of decision this week.

BG2003: Right, are you expecting the contracts to be renegotiated?

RM: Uh, no. Not really.

BG2003: Laughs is there any kind of hint you can give us? Or do you even have one?

RM: I don’t really have one. I mean that’s really the state of affairs as they are now, talk, I’m sort of in daily communication with them, I have periodic budget meetings,

BG2003: Right...

RM: I’m going into a budget meeting tomorrow and discussing it. And we look at the budget a lot of different ways, you know, taking money out of this department and putting it into that department, and seeing if we can get by with less here, I mean its all kind of the standard drill that you go through on a TV show before it goes to series.

BG2003: Yeah.

RM: So its all just sort of a lot of talk and somebody eventually will have to make a decision.

BG2003: So I guess in some ways you’re uh... kind of in the same boat as the fans, just waiting.

RM: yeah pretty much.

BG2003: laughs So I guess then you can relate to the pins and needles everyone’s feeling.

RM: laughs

BG2003: Except your salary depends on that, so

RM: Yeah (chuckle)

BG2003: So a little bit different for you I think. OK, assuming that the series is picked up, how soon would you expect filming to begin?

RM: Probably in the next couple of months, two or three months.

BG2003: have there been any targeted air dates?

RM: Summer, would be, uh, I dunno, they didn’t give me a “date” date, but even, but at this point all the dates are kind of vague anyway. I think they would want to probably do a summer launch, which is typically, you know, July, something like that.

BG2003: Right. Will you be up in Vancouver, I assume. when the filming begins?

RM: Me personally?

BG2003: Mm-hmm.

RM: I’d be up there for part of it. I mean I’d run the show, the writing staff and post production would most likely be done in Los Angeles, and then we’d be shooting in Vancouver, so I’d go back and forth.

BG2003: Do you expect there to be much different, uh, much difference in terms of your involvement if this goes to series, than your involvement when this was a mini-series?

RM: Uh, yes, in that when it was in production on the mini-series, I was show-running Carnivale, so at that point I wrote the miniseries and helped in pre-production, and pretty much had to step away and go off and produce Carnivale. And this time I would be full time, it would be my full-time gig, I would be the show-runner on the scene, and you know I’d be the guy running the writing staff, and to try to take the direction of the show.

BG2003: Right. A lot of people viewed your saying, your letting go of Carnivale as a big hint that Galactica was gonna be a go, I don’t know if there’s anything you can say to that?

RM: Uh, they were sort of two separate things and I wanted to, you know, Universal wanted me to come over and offered me a development deal and Galactica, you know, they were hoping that it was gonna go to series, and certainly that was a big carrot for me to come over and do it. And uh, yeah, that decision that was made back in, God what was it, like September, something like that, and that was before the miniseries was even on the air, so you know, everyone assumed, or not assumed, everyone was hoping it was going to go to series. And everyone still hopes its going to go to series, the studio and the network still want to make it work, they’re just trying to find a way, you know, how to do they make it work more than anything else.

BG2003: And budget seems to be the primary issue?

RM: Budget’s the primary issue.

BG2003: Is it just, obviously, the cost of doing the CG work and so forth these days is pretty expensive...

RM: Well, its sort of, it’s the whole package. You know, its, “space opera” shows are just expensive by their nature. Cost, you know, everything, is you know, there’s not a lot of rental involved, because you’re essentially using materials, or creating materials for the show, sets are expensive, costumes are expensive, CGI is expensive, we have an expensive cast, its just a hard show. You know, the whole, to maintain, I mean... the key thing is, I mean, you can shoot anything for nothing, you know, you could like go up there and shoot, like a cheapo version of Battlestar Galactica.

BG2003: Yeah.

RM: But the point of doing it is to maintain the quality of the miniseries.

[The One]

BG2003: Do you have any concerns that you could be sacrificing the artistic creativity if the budget were cut too far?

RM: Well no because those are the discussions that I’m in. I mean, I, you know, we discuss, I’m involved with, you know, discussing where we make cuts and what is it, what I’m willing to sacrifice and what we’re not willing to sacrifice.

BG2003: Right.

RM: So, you know, I have a hand in sort of saying “well no, if we do that we’re not going to be able to do the same level of”... you know like CGI for instance, if we cut it to that point, so “no we can’t do it, we can’t make a cut over in that department because we have to maintain that kind of quality, however this department over here, you know I think we could get by with one fewer body doing that job.” You know, it’s a lot of horse trading, but you know I keep my eye on what it will take to do the show week in and week out, and maintain a certain level of quality.

BG2003: Right. Um, OK, I guess, regarding some of the controversy over the changes and over the characters, I’ve heard it said in fandom, at least among some of the purists, that they feel the miniseries was disrespectful toward the original. Do you think that’s so?

RM: No. I think that’s a complete... I think that’s their perception of it, I think the people that say that, essentially, you know, had an agenda before they watched it.

BG2003: Right.

RM: Its like, if you’re ready to be offended, you know [laughs] then I think you get offended.

BG2003: Laughs.

RM: But none of it was, no one on the part of the production intended to be disrespectful for the original. You know we included little homages to the original, along the way, we used snippets of the original theme music, we put in original Cylons, we saw some of the original Galactica and the old Base Stars, and you know the Vipers are obviously very close to the original, very, very close to the original. And yet there were lots of little touches along the way, you know, including Boxey, that were meant as sort of homages to the old show. None of us were interested in insulting the old show. You know, that just wasn’t anyone’s motivation.

BG2003: Right, it wasn’t like an “agenda” or anything...[laughs]

RM: No! Why would we do that? [laughs] I mean, its just, no... We were recreating Battlestar Galactica, I mean where the roots of the program were, we weren’t even out there to attack them.

BG2003: Would you have any advise for some of the purist the fans who sort of feel like their favorite toy has been taken away?

RM: They always have the old show. Nothing we’ve done has eliminated the original series, or eliminated their ability to enjoy it. If anything, what we have done is opened up, you know, avenues for people, who were unaware of the original or not unfamiliar with it, now have an interest in going and checking it out and maybe become fans of the original too. So I don’t really see any negatives from the miniseries that impact the original. People saying, or feeling like their toy’s been taken away, is just kind of silly, I mean. They can watch it whenever they want!

BG2003: Laughing

RM: I mean, they can hold onto the DVD and play it. I mean it does exist, and it will always exist.

[The One]

BG2003: You know its interesting because I was talking with Grace Park, a couple weeks ago, I interviewed her, and we were discussing this, and she said she sort of felt empathy for some of the purists in that, you know, you can’t really tell them not to love it because they do, and its been kind of hard for them in some ways.

RM: Yeah...

BG2003: But then she also said that you know, really, it was better to make the changes that you did, because if you had tried to mimic it, it might, it would not have achieved the result, it wouldn’t have made them happy.

RM: I completely agree. I think that an attempt to recreate the old show would have fallen on its face, and that they would not have liked it. You know, I think what made the old show work, was sort of, it was specific to its time...

BG2003: Yes

RM: ...to the moment that it came on the scene. And people remember it fondly and its part of, you know, most of the fans remember it as part of their childhood...

BG2003: Yes.

RM: And you can never recapture that. Its always going to have the warmth of nostalgia about it because it was something that you saw when you were very young. And sometimes you watch it as an adult and you can still recapture that but its hard to then recreate it...

BG2003: Yeah...

RM: ...to then do it all over again, and even if had the exact same costumes, the exact same ships and the exact same music and everything its still not going to really give you what you’re looking for, because you’re looking for a childhood memory.

BG2003: Yeah, 25 years have passed...

RM: yeah.

BG2003: That’s a lot of time.

RM: It really is.

BG2003: Do you envision, assuming this goes to series, do you envision any new characters getting written in? For example, I know there’s also been some talk among fandom about there being possibly, or hopefully, some people of which there could be an African American lead, and not just a supporting character?

RM: I haven’t given that any direct thought, I mean we that wasn’t something we were avoiding when we cast the show...

BG2003: Oh no...

RM: ...we read some African Americans, they just didn’t happen to land those particular roles.

BG2003: Right

RM: There’s not a plan in the end to specifically write a lead role for an African American lead actor. There are other roles that will are gonna come up, and I’m sure they will come in to read for them.

BG2003: One of the things, I was mentioning I talked with Grace Park, and one of the things she mentioned, I thought was very interesting, she was talking about some of the freedom that the actors had, in that they were allowed to do a little bit of improvisation during the filming of the mini and she mentioned the “so say we all” scene, toward the end, where Edward James Olmos had that monologue, and she mentioned that some of that was just him.

RM: Oh yeah.

BG2003: That -

RM: He improved a lot of that and got them going. I mean, none of the, that whole back and forth where he stands and looks at them?

BG2003: Yeah.

RM: ...and he goes “so say we all” and then they kind of quietly say it back and then he you know he stirs them and they keep doing it and doing it? And then he gives the speech? That was all Eddie. That was all something he came up with down on the set.

BG2003: That just - that blows me away.

[The One]

RM: Oh it was fantastic. What I had written was, you know, he went up and gave the speech. And they got down there, and the “so say we all” line was in there, but it was just something... I talked with him about that at the TCA, the Television Critics Association gathering, and I told him how [great] that scene was and I was very pleased, he talked about it, it occurred to him sort of within the moment...

BG2003: Yes.

RM: He really, he just found something within the scene, and that kind of improvisation is something I would definitely encourage within the show. It’s a fine line, its like, you always have to be aware of what is the intent of the scene, because obviously it has to fit into the show and if its just out of whack with the rest of the story line its not gonna work...

BG2003: Right

RM: But you know when you have actors and directors that are really in tune with the intentions of the script and understand the overall picture then they can really fly with something like that.

BG2003: Well its interesting to me, because, we were talking about people making up their minds before they’d seen it, and I know that before the mini ever aired, a lot of people claimed they’d read the script and they had all these opinions, well, I personally never read the script. Because I felt that if I read that, it would predispose me toward it, and you cannot get a visual idea of how this is going to turn out until you’ve seen it. And just this example of Olmos, completely taking that scene away from the script, and just doing something so phenomenal with it, that, to me that proves my point.

RM: Yeah, absolutely. And a lot of things change from script to final cut, I mean there’s things that are lost in editing, there’s things that are changed around in editing, the order of the scenes sometimes changes, you cut moments out of scenes, or linger longer on certain moments on character that change the context of the scene, and a script is just a blueprint, its where it all begins...

BG2003: Yeah...

RM: Yeah, you’re right, a lot of times it is very different from what you see as the final product.

BG2003: yeah, I know that just from working in TV news [laughs]. Have you had a chance to check out some of James Swallow’s work on the Galactica video game?

RM: No I haven’t. I’m aware of it, and we had a discussion with the creators of the video game early on, but I haven’t actually looked at it.

BG2003: Our Website recently interviewed him and he has, some of his work actually alludes to both the original and the remake and is kind of a bridge between the two. And we had recently interviewed him and he expressed a great love for your script and wished that he could have an opportunity to write for the series, and I wondered if there’d be any chance that you would consider allowing him to write an episode.

RM: I have no idea.

BG2003: [laughs] Well can he be hired?

RM: [laughs] Have him give me a call...

BG2003: [laughs] I bet... um... its got to be difficult to sort of, you know, be thinking too far in advance about what you’d like to do when everything’s in limbo, I’m sure.

RM: A little bit. I mean I’ve written essentially the first episode, its nearly complete, and I’ve written an extensive story - series bible, and outlines for the first 3 or 4 episodes, and I’ve stroked out the character and story arc for the first season, but that’s about as far as I can do until they pick it up.

BG2003: Do you envision following, or echoing, some of the episodes which were you know, created in the original or do you think you’ll just branch out and explore your own territory?

RM: By and large we’ll branch out and do our own, but I’m starting to go back and re-watch the original episodes and there were some things, you know, I always thought the Pegasus story was pretty cool, it was something I’d always sort of...

BG2003: You have to promise me you won’t re-do “The Young Lords,” though.

RM: [Laughs]

BG2003: [Laughs]

RM: That’s one I just watched...

BG2003: “The Young Lords”? [laughs] Or what was the one with Siress Bellamy?

RM: That was on, we must have watched them together. They were on the same, Sci Fi channel ran them back to back...

BG2003: Did they really?

RM:... those two particular episodes.

BG2003: Well my Fiancé got me my silver Cylon for Christmas and I’ve been looking at it.

RM: Well maybe they were just broadcast in that order, yeah maybe, I was watching them on Sci Fi, they had that one and then the one with Siress Bellamy back to back.

BG2003: Oh, Lord... well I think that the Pegasus one, there could be so much that could be done with that.

RM: Yeah, it’s a good story. You know, it’s a good set up and its something I would probably like to take a crack at. I’m not sure when it would be, but that’s the only one I specifically have targeted, and I’ve thought about doing something with the ship of lights and all that, but I’m not quite sure that the ship of lights in that mythos fits into this universe of Galactica, but I’m still considering it.

BG2003: If you did the ship of lights, and then if you took Count Iblis, would you be doing sort of this, I mean in the original it seemed kind of like they were almost going for angels and devils.

RM: Yeah it seemed kind of that way.

BG2003: Almost a theological approach.

RM: And I’m not sure, that’s so, that’s so on the nose, to me, I’m not sure if it fits in with this view of the world...

BG2003: Yeah...

[The One]

RM: ...that is, of the miniseries. So if I went that way I’d want to sort of play with that idea.

BG2003: Right. And if you did bring back the Pegasus, would you still have a Commander Cain and possibly... I mean , I know that James Swallow gave him a name Garris “Renegade” Cain, in the video game.

RM : Really? I didn’t know that. Yeah, oh yeah, the whole point of doing the Pegasus is to do Cain, and to do that aspect of the character. That would be an interesting character to position against Adama, and you know, his daughter is lead pilot and I always liked that parallel between that ship and Galactica. So there’s definitely stuff to play there.

BG2003: But in view of the changes, would this time, would Commander Cain have a son?

RM: I don’t know.
BG2003: [laughs] He would be competing with Starbuck...

RM: Yeah maybe, I’m not entirely certain...

BG2003: [laughs] Well its gotta be fun to be brainstorming anyway...

RM: Yeah it’ll be a fun - if we go, it’ll be a fun one to sit and talk about.

BG2003: Okay. Regarding your Galactica Universe, is the Cyrannus solar system a single solar system with 12 habitable worlds or is it a system of solar systems?

RM: Where we ended up was a single solar system with 12 planets. ‘Cause that seemed to be what was done in the original.

BG2003: Yeah.

RM: And the first draft concentrated everything on one planet, and it seemed to complicate it, it was confusing no matter which way you went. The first draft had everything on one planet, there were 12 colonies on one planet, which gave, which people got kind of confused on.

BG2003: Oh yeah...

RM: And then it became, I was just I don’t care, because I was trying to make it simpler, so I thought, lets just go back and make it 12 colonies, on 12 separate worlds, and just leave it at that. But this script was so large and so many references, that I didn’t catch them all, so there are periodic references to one world and it even passed on the miniseries.

BG2003: The miniseries features a number of tantalizing hints about the Cylon religion and I was personally fascinated by that. Can you explain to us what the basis of that religion is and what their god is?

RM: Well thats still being developed, I mean a lot that I’m planning on exploring more deeply in the series. A lot of it is still kind of vague even in my head. But I like the notion, I mean it seemed logical that, you know, a true artificial intelligent, a true sentient life form will ask itself the existential questions, why am I here, is this all there is...

BG2003:...yeah...

RM:... what is my purpose. And then that on some level inevitably leads to some sort of belief in something else, something larger, a god. And, since the Cylons in particular are created by mankind, you know, they probably started off on some basic level, believing that mankind was their god, but then mankind has gods itself, so there was sort of already a two-tier system built into the Cylon world view. And then they started to perceive themselves as the children of mankind, and the next sort of step is that they were given a soul by some larger creator and they can still sort of... I think they believe in a single god as opposed to the multiple gods which I think that the Colonies believe in, which is kind of interesting...

BG2003: I found it interesting that Number Six mentioned in the mini, she goes “god is love.” And I’m wondering how does that “compute” when the Cylons are bent on genocide?

RM: Well, I think you could ask that very question to many, many, [laughs] many religions of our home world.

BG2003: Very true.

RM: I think that great harm has been done throughout the ages in the name of a loving god, and so I don’t find any contradiction in the Cylon view at all, they are carrying out what they believe to be god’s will, they’re destroying the parent in order to advance and fulfill god’s plan, and on some level the Cylons believe that they know, or that they understand god’s perfect love even more than mankind does, and that mankind has in some ways betrayed the promise of god and betrayed the promise of love and no longer believes in the “true faith”.

BG2003: And therefore they deserve to die.

RM: And therefore they deserve to die. They have been chosen to die by the lord, you know, that theological idea is something that you can find...

BG2003: oh yeah!

RM: ...in the history of many contemporary earth religions.

BG2003: Well, we only have to go back a couple of years.

RM: Yeah.

BG2003: And we can take a look at “Jihad” and look at it even closer.

RM: You can look at everything from Jihad to the Inquisition to get you to places where, you know, really nasty, horrible things were done in the name of a loving and perfect god.

[The One]

BG2003: I know, we talk about Galactica mirroring the society its created in, and the old Galactica certainly did. It seemed to have almost a Cold War mentality, whereas the new Galactica in this post 9-11 world, that we’re in right now, certainly you had to have taken that into account.

RM: Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, you watch the old show, when I watched original pilot, you know, you watch it in the post 9-11 world and it just hits you differently. It just, the idea of a sudden, abrupt and surprising destruction of an entire society is one that sort of sends a chill down you in a different way.

BG2003: And then the idea of it being religiously motivated...

RM: Exactly. So yeah. That show was written in its time, in the 70's. This show is written now. And I write it from where I am in the culture I see, the world that I watch around me, and I bring those things to the table, when approach the material.

BG2003: Can you tell us much about how society in Cylon functions and the kind of hierarchy exists in their culture?

RM: A lot of it I’m keeping vague...

BG2003: [laugh]

RM: ...keeping vague. Some of it I’ve worked out and some of it I haven’t. And what I want to do in the series is sort of drop it in drips and drags because I think that just delivering the full blown society is not so interesting, but hinting and being mysterious about how it works... It’s like, as long as I know how it works, then its OK to not really tell the audience because then I can hint and indicate, and the audience will fill in a lot of blanks on their own...

BG2003: Oh yeah.

RM: ...more interesting ideas than if I just laid it out “well it works like this, this Cylon says that, and ta ta ta ta ta” I mean I think one of things that has to, one of the more interesting aspects of Cylon society that I think is there in the miniseries, that people don’t generally sort of talk about... if you think about it, here is a society that has decided that life itself is probably the most precious thing of all. Because here’s a society that designs itself to allow the members, when a body is destroyed, that entity’s consciousness and entire personality is automatically sent away and downloaded into another body.

BG2003: Yeah...

RM: Think about what it would it would take, the infrastructure it would take to sustain that kind of thing where literally every single Cylon believes that they’re going to wake up in another body if something terrible should happen to them.

BG2003: Wow...

RM: It’s one of the paramount concerns in their society is maintaining life, is that life is an incredibly precious commodity to these people, which also sort of implies that they’re sort of afraid of death! That maybe their whole theology and their whole belief of god AIN’T that sure because they’re sort of afraid to really die or find out for themselves..

BG2003: ...what really death would be..

RM: So its sort of an interesting. you know, Cylon culture and I think it will be an interesting thing to explore.

BG2003: Will there be an Imperious Leader?

RM: I don’t know. I don’t quite see them as having one single leader that would inform them all, it doesn’t seem like that would fit into this view of the Cylons.

BG2003: If there is would he have a lizard on his shoulder?

RM: I really don’t know...

BG2003: I’m kidding. I noticed that lizard by the way, I don’t know if you saw that, but in the original there’s the lizard crawling on the Imperious Leader’s shoulder.

RM: Is that right?

BG2003: Yeah, if you look really closely, and I don’t know if its in the made for TV one or the made for theater, but in the pilot for the original series, there’s that scene. Um, in the Sci Fi channel chat, you mentioned that you’d roughed out some of the episodes, and you’ve been mentioning that just a little bit here, we talked about “borrowing” away from some of the originals. Are there any specific ones, aside from the Pegasus, that you would like to possibly use?

RM: Well just that and the I think the ship of lights are the only ones specifically, and like I said I’ve started to re-watch them. I’m going to look through and see what strikes me along the way. I remember a lot of them, I don’t think so. A lot of them though, depend on sort of the planet of the week kind of scenario which is something we’re specifically not doing. So we’re not going to be running into a lot of other humanoid societies and sort of cultures which takes away things like “The Young Lords” and takes away, you know, I’m not certain the titles, like there was the one where the planet that was essentially split into the West half and the East half...

BG2003: Yeah. And Hector and Vector.

RM: Hector and Vector and all that, we probably won’t be doing that.

BG2003: You mean we won’t have Hector and Vector?

RM: I’m sad to say...

BG2003: Awww... I liked Hector and Vector.

RM: Actually I don’t even remember Hector and Vector too clearly so...

BG2003: I’m kind of kidding about Hector and Vector...

RM: I vaguely remember them but I don’t remember them that clearly.

BG2003: [laughs] Um, thats OK. I dunno, I don’t think that they’ll be the most missed. Um, Muffit maybe, I dunno, maybe if it weren’t a chimpanzee in a suit, though.

RM: Yeah... I don’t think they’ll let me put a chimp in a suit anyway.

[The One]

BG2003: [laughs] I was watching some of the out-takes on that and I was surprised at even what they got away with back then. Ahhh. With a tighter budget, for the regular series, versus the miniseries format, do you feel that you’ll be constrained with the stories you can tell?

RM: No because I pretty much, I pitched the show initially with an idea towards taking it to series, so I pitched it to be producible on a weekly budget.

BG2003: Right.

RM: It’s designed to be an interior show, that is, about the people within the ships not a planet of the week, its designed not to go to any alien cultures, not to do the prosthetics, the wardrobe, the sets, what have you, that’s associated with that. Its designed not to be a war show every week where you’re doing lots of combat every week. It’s supposed to be a drama, it’s a drama first and foremost, and the drama’s supposed to be within the Galactica and the ships of the rag-tag fleet, and thats pretty impressive, for me.

BG2003: Oh yeah.

RM: You know? The ongoing discussions right now not withstanding, I know that if we can just get it to a comfortable number here where we can literally be able to shoot, then I know I can produce. Its not going to effect my story. The discussions that are going on now, none of them really effect the storytelling aspect of the show.

BG2003: Oh good. You’ve got to be really on pins and needles.

RM: A little bit yeah.

BG2003: Is it hard waiting, I mean, for you?

RM: I’m used to it. I mean this is the game of television and feature films, there’s a tremendous amount of waiting, there’s a tremendous, I’m just very, very grateful that there’s some kind of deadline facing us, [laugh] you know, because deadlines make people make decisions in this business.

BG2003: Do you think that we will have a decision by the 31st or...

RM: There will be some kind of decision. Because they will either have to either pick up the actor contracts or not.

BG2003: Wow.

RM: And thats kind of a yes, no proposition. I’m pretty, I’m almost positive they won’t be able to extend the contracts again, so they will have to go up or down.

BG2003: So they will have to - are you saying there will be a yes, no?

RM: There will be a yes no to active contracts for sure.

BG2003: Do you, I mean, with regards to the actors, I’m not sure which actors will be staying with the series and which ones will not. Is there any changes that you already know of?

RM: No, we have them all. We pretty much have them all.

BG2003: I mean there’s been rumors all over Cyberspace, I’m sure you know about that, but there’s been talk that Edward James Olmos is going on to some other show...

RM: Not true.

BG2003: Not true?

RM: Not true.

BG2003: So he’ll be with it. Cause I can’t see anyone else playing Adama...

RM: If we go, he’s with us.

BG2003: What do you think will be your biggest challenge in writing a series, on writing a weekly series?

RM: Um, I don’t know. Thats an interesting question. I think that the challenge would be to keep being interesting and keep being different than other science fiction out there and not lapse into the cliches of the genre, I think the challenge will be to make this a unique series.

BG2003: Farscape seemed to really achieve that in some ways itself.

RM: Exactly.

BG2003: Regarding some of the relationships, you were talking about how a lot of the relationships will have to do with the way you’ll play this out, uh, Billie and Petty Officer Dualla, will they be showing any more sparks?

RM: Yes.

BG2003: [Laughs] They kind of hinted at kind of a shy little puppy-dog...

RM: Yep, we’ll follow that up.

BG2003: Alright, what about Boomer and Tyrol?

RM: Yeah, all the relationships that were established in the miniseries I’m interested in following up...

BG2003: But what happens to Tyrol when he finds out Boomer isn’t all she’s cracked up to be?

RM: See now, that is an interesting question isn’t it?

BG2003: [laughs]

RM: I don’t think I’d wait for that to happen anytime soon, but that’s certainly an interesting question.

BG2003: [laughs] Ooh, yeah, that could be interesting to see what would happen.

RM: And what happens when Boomer realizes who she is, too?

BG2003: Yeah, now, Boomer, being loyal to the Galactica, as the human side of her, but then what happens if she wakes up and finds out she is a Cylon?

RM: Yeah I mean that will be a fascinating moment.

BG2003: Would she like, you know ...fly away and kill herself...or?

RM: Well, there’s a lot of ways we could go with that. And that one, that one I have not decided in my mind.

BG2003: Wow, well that certainly gives you a lot of creative leg room there. I guess, do you have any words for the fans of the mini who are so starved and hungry and they’ve just been subsisting on this thin diet of rumor while they wait for the official word? [laughs]

RM: [laughs] Well, they’ll hear something this week.

BG2003: Any, any –

RM: The actors have to be, there has to be a decision made on those contracts.

BG2003: Right.

RM: Thats a fixed deadline.

BG2003: There has to be...

RM: Has to be.

BG2003: Something... some nugget...

RM: Yep.

BG2003: Alright, I have a question here that was submitted by Eric Chu, who I’m sure you know is one of the designers of the Cylon Raider, and he wanted to know, he says, “I was wondering if the Cylon Raider we designed was anything like what we saw - like what he saw in his head” I guess he means what you saw in your head when you wrote the script. He says “it caused us the most grief, the squashed Cylon, we called it.”

RM: Um. Let me see, when I wrote it, I can’t even remember, can’t even remember the way I described them in the first draft of the script, I mean I knew they were going to be some kind of variation of the flying wing, cause thats what the original Cylon Raiders were. And David Eick I think is the one that came up with the idea that the Cylon Raiders should have a sort of a head or a face associated with a big oscillating red light. And then it went through various changes over time, and by that point I was not really in the loop anymore, and so I’m not sure. I know there was like an endless discussion on it but I’m not really aware of all that went back and forth about it.

BG2003: Wow. Do you envision copying off, it seems that you’ve mirrored the Navy quite a lot, and within the Battlestar Classification will there be any subclasses like there are in the US Navy such as the Nimitz class, and so forth?

RM: Oh sure that will be, all that kind of nomenclature will still be used.

BG2003: I just have one last question I thought of... and that is, Battlestar Galactica, when compared to all the other different series and shows that you’ve worked on in your career, how does it size up for you personally?

RM: It’s one of the ones I’m most proud of. I’m really proud of that work. I’m proud of the script, I’m proud of the final product, its one of the few times where you have a vision, an idea of what you think it can be and then the final product is almost exactly what you had hoped. And its definitely one of the things I’m most proud of in my career.

BG2003: Okay, well I certainly do appreciate your taking the time to talk with me, and I know the fans will too.

RM: Okay.

BG2003: You have a great evening.

RM: You too.

BG2003: Okay bye, bye.

As I release my cats from their confinement, and settle down at my computer for a long evening of typing, I reflect briefly on the interview.

Ron Moore strikes me as a creative dreamer who probably is bored to death with the endless negotiations that have been holding Galactica at sub-light speed.

As much as fandom would like to know Sci Fi channel’s decision regarding the potential series, I’d wager the long wait has been longest for Moore.

Farvoyager over and out



Battlestar Galactica 2003 Copyright 2003-04. Legal Notice.

[jewels]

Thanks for posting that, The One.

[Darth Marley]

And happy birthday.

[BST]

Originally posted by The One
Oh, I guess the link doesn't work...

Does anyone know how to bypass the banned link site so everyone has access to read the interview so they can make their own assumptions!

There are many answers given by Ron D. Moore about all the rumours! It is very, very, very informative!

The One,

That site can not be linked from here. You may want to consult this thread for the reason as to why:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5435

BST

[The One]

Thanks BST...I wanted to know the reason why the ban on galactica2003.net was in effect as I am quite new to these boards and this was a question I had...

Thanks! Much appreciated...I'll check out the link you provided!

I hope I didn't offend anyone regarding trying to get people to read the link I provided from the banned site!

I DIDN'T KNOW!

[The One]

Regarding Ron D. Moore's comments!

What the...

Why is everyone so quiet all of a sudden! We need someone to continue with the rumours or there will nothing to write about...

Where are you Aaron?

Geez...it is getting boring here now!

Someone please contradict what Ron had to say!

I can't...but someone must be able too!

Come on people! Speak freely!

(tumble weed rolls by)

What...what was that...did you hear something?

(rustling bushes off in the distance...)

I think that someone was listening in on this posting...Yikes!

[Darkhunter01]

All of us seem to be beating our heads up against a wall waiting for an official announcement.
According to the interview, an announcement will come very soon. The contracts will not get another extention so this week is it.
Sci-fi would be very foolish to let this franchise slip through their fingers. Too much time and money has been invested!

[koenigrules]

You share my sentiments exactly Darkhunter01.
I know you are anxious. Try to stay calm.
I really believe that good news is forthcoming in the next few days, OK?

[Darth Marley]

Originally posted by The One


(tumble weed rolls by)



We call them tumblenugs in these parts.

[BST]

Originally posted by The One
I hope I didn't offend anyone regarding trying to get people to read the link I provided from the banned site!

I DIDN'T KNOW!

No problem. No harm done. Like Tom said in the message, we're not trying to censor anything and references to the site are "ok" (ugh) but, we won't provide a direct link to that site.

Please forgive my previous oversight - WELCOME TO THE FLEETS!! :)

BST :)

[thomas7g]

sorry One, we had some major problems from the guy who owns that sight. He use to cause alot of mischief here. The program automatically blanks out the name.

I don't mind if people go there. There is some good info for RMBG fans. But I feel uncomfortably like I'm leading people into sin when we send people over.

:)

[CaptainApollo]

I'll bite,


<snip>
A more extensive RDM interview will be posted shortly on the ***banned site*** site.


What is ***banned site*** eh,...?


Take care, :)
CaptainApollo

[Gemini1999]

Apollo -

Read further up this thread - it's already been asked and explained....

Bryan
________
SS (http://www.chevy-wiki.com/wiki/Chevrolet_SS)

[The One]

Thanks everyone!

This site has been a pleasure to post on! Very professional and the tempers have been kept to a minimum which is great!

There have been a lot of different voices...well balanced and has provided a great foundation for our opinions!

Very healthy and productive in general!

Here's to a favourable decision!

Umm...Aaron Douglas? Would you like to say something in regards to the contract deadline expiring...

(Clears throat)

Aaron? Aaron?

Mr. Douglas?

(looks around...)

Oh...I think he's left the house...

Oh well...

(trips over a few beer cans)

Jesus Chr...

Who the #&(()((*^%@# left those there?

What the?

[The Rain]

Originally posted by Darth Marley
We call them tumblenugs in these parts.

LOL
Well northern California and Tennesee have more in common than I thought!
:D

[Tyrol]

Umm...Aaron Douglas? Would you like to say something in regards to the contract deadline expiring...

(Clears throat)

Aaron? Aaron?

Mr. Douglas?

(looks around...)

Oh...I think he's left the house...

Oh well...

Sorry.....Been working.
what do you want me to say?
I don't have a contract. I know Grace is waiting until Friday until she moves onto other things or is kept for this. My agent is going to call on Friday and ask questions about me. I have two other shows starting in Feb. so if BSG doesn't go I will be working so at this point I am not too worried about it. I have what has been told to me so that is what I am going on. All I have ever said is what I have been told... just like you.
I will be in LA on Friday and I may drop in on David and say 'hey... so what's up?'
As for the contracts expiring ....well they are expiring... what do you want? At this point I could not really care anymore. I want to do the show but I am not going to hold my breath or be too worried about it. If it goes I may not even be kept so why worry. This is the biz...as BS as it may be this is it.
There is enough BS in this business to deal with I don't need it here as well.
Why don't you call Ron French and ask him what is going on. This is my last post to THE ONE.

[thomas7g]

I'm sorry to hear that. But I know you will succeed in acting. Your career is going up and shows alot of promise. So don't let it get ya down.

I think BG will eventually be open for ya. But I have a feeling the project may be delayed. I have no inside knowledge on that, but scifi seems to be like a used car dealer trying to score the big one, but lacking severly in so many ways the ability and heart to do it well. I think it will eventually happen because the product is profitable. But it may take awhile. And from watching BG for a long time I would have to say its a glorious thing when it happens, but its a lousy bet and a painful ride.

I remember telling someone once that Battlestar is like that girl you are nuts for but she is sooooo bad for you!

When you get to LA I'd like to buy ya a drink or something. Not much of a drinking man myself, but I would like to say Hi.
:D

[The One]

Thanks for the response Aaron!

My last post was not meant to be facitious to get a heated response or a bitter response or anything negative...just wanted to hear what you had to say and you said what you had to...

...hope there is no hard feelings as the last few words you wrote were...well, not to encouraging towards my posts...

But I respect that...and like I said...liked your work in Galactica! And I am sure I'll see you on the tube again in the near future!

Yes, there is a lot of BS in this biz...and the ones that can set it aside will flourish...the ones that can't will sink into the dark abyss of bitterness...

The situation with Galactica is NOT unusual and happens many, many times!

A pilot project...and as you know...there are 100 of them that are shot every year...most do not get picked up...and most get shelved! So, the odds of this show going to series is NOT good regardless of the strong ratings which doesn't mean a series will be successful...

There are so many other factors involved before a studio will greenlight a project...and sometimes, we have all seen projects that get greenlighted that shouldn't...and that is the business...1 + 1 does NOT equal 2 in this business!

Good luck in Los Angeles Aaron! I hope all goes well with your acting career...sure to see you on the tube in the near future!

*I didn't know you didn't have a contract with Galactica. I thought that you were a series-regular since you are the one that has posted here the most and gotten involved with these threads more than the other actors!

That came to a shock to me! That is the first I have heard of that...but, it came from you so I guess it is true!

[koenigrules]

Sci-Fi is so used to me calling them.
They said they are finalizing their negotiations. They will know Friday & it looks good.
Not official....but pretty damn close to it!

[slider]

Is this the source that told you 6 episodes had been ordered? I know you are only reporting what you hear from the people answering the telephones. Let’s hope this source is connected to the high level meetings in LA. The fans have had their chains pulled quite a bit over the last 2 weeks. But congratulations if this turns out to be true.

[koenigrules]

Its a different source- not from Hammer's Office. That one was reading what was on the cinescape site. I found that out after another phone call to her!
This person is the assistant to Thomas Bitale, Senior Vice President of Programming (might have gotten the spelling wrong). She seemed much more knowledgeable.

[koenigrules]

By the way, Sci-Fi told me they will re-air the mini in March or April of this year!

[The One]

Hey Koenigrules...you should probably let Ron Moore know what is going on...or maybe he should call the Sci Fi Channel to fill him in on the great news forthcoming...I am sure he would appreciate it!

[The One]

Wow! Please post the information as soon as you hear the go-ahead from the Sci Fi Channel...

It sounds like very promising news!

Did they say if there was going to be only six episodes or a full season of 22?

[The One]

:popcorn:

[koenigrules]

Hopefully by Friday they will disclose if its a go & how many episodes there will be.
Will keep you updated.
Ciao.

[Soulmage]

Quit being such a d##k. . . The One. Either Koenig is right or he's not, we'll find out soon. Just antagonizing people, even if they're ignoring it serves no purpose and doesn't cast you in a very good light. That's probably why Aaron mentioned something.

Personally, I wonder if even if the series is greenlit on Friday/Saturday whether we'll hear something or not until Monday/Tuesday of next week.

If Sci-Fi is anything like my company, once a decision is made that decision has to be communicated to the PR department that handles all external communications. There its drafted, reviewed by various management in the PR and originating department, finally its run by Corp. Law to see if it's O.K. from that perspective. Then, and only then does it actually go to print. The whole process takes a couple days minimum unless the announcement is pre-drafted and they're just sitting on it waiting for the official word.

So, its always possible we might not hear an official annoucement from Sci Fi for a while even if the decision is a go. After all, nothing in the actor's contracts says that the decision has to be announced to the world by the 31st, just that it has to be made, although hopefully we'll get some inside scoop on Friday (or Sunday if negotiations stretch into Saturday.)

[koenigrules]

Or by Friday Aaron Douglas will call me (he has my number) and I will relay the news here...

[larocque6689]

Originally posted by koenigrules
Or by Friday Aaron Douglas will call me (he has my number) and I will relay the news here...

I hope you hear back from him. Same goes with your calls to the network. Please relay all the information here including who you talked to (i.e. assistant to such-and-such). Thanks in advance.

John

[CaptainApollo]

Look-it,...

I read this thread,
and I'm asking a genuine question,

What is the "banned website",...?


Originally posted by Gemini1999
Apollo -

Read further up this thread - it's already been asked and explained....

Bryan


Don

[BST]

Captain Apollo,

The link below explains it all:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5435

Suffice it to say that it is a website that we WILL NOT provide a link to, from here.

BST

[CaptainApollo]

Look-it,...

I read this thread,
and I'm asking a genuine question,

What is the "banned website",...?





Don


Edit 1:
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http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5435

<snip>
Banned site December 11th, 2003 23:39 PM

This is something that probably should have been done long ago.

I don't believe in pushing censorship. But there is one site and its owner that in the past has caused us an insane amount of trouble. Too much repeated attempts for creating problems within the fanbase. If you wanna learn more about them, ask over at cylon.org. They bore the brunt of the pain with that site.

So we aren't going to allow linking from here to the ***banned site*** website.

There is alot of information over there for mini fans. I'm not telling folks to NOT go over there if they want. But we have a deep reservation about sending people over to a place that does some pretty slimy things.

The thought makes me wanna take another shower.

[CaptainApollo]

So,

Basically,

Between ***banned site*** and Colonial Fleets Forum,
Am I correct to guess there was cross-Forum,
and /or parallel-Forum,

pro/con "New BSG" Flaming,...?

Is that the Row eh,...?


Take care, :)
CaptainApollo

[BST]

Originally posted by CaptainApollo
So,

Basically,

Between ***banned site*** and Colonial Fleets Forum,
Am I correct to guess there was cross-Forum,
and /or parallel-Forum,

pro/con "New BSG" Flaming,...?

Is that the Row eh,...?


Take care, :)
CaptainApollo

No, Captain Apollo,

It was MUCH more than that and the wars began on the SciFi bb. Enclosed below is a synopsis of the events:

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6072

BST

[CaptainApollo]

Hello BST, :)

Thank you very much for the heads-up eh,
I appreciate that alot,


Take care, :)
CaptainApollo