VERY GOOD NEWS for Mini fans!

[thomas7g]

A good friend of mine ran into Edward james Olmos at a movie in LA and he asked about the series. And EJO said he did have a go and is waiting for the starting date for production and that should come soon.

And for Aaron, he said Tyrol is a GO. of course we already would suspect that. After all, we can't have the ship leave port without our favorite guy!

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[dec5]

Go BG2004!!!!!!!!!! Hee hee!!!!!!!!!

More Grace Park!!!!!!!!!!! Hee hee!!!!!!!

Thanks for the good news.........I had doubts about a full blown series.........would have wanted a mini series....then a series.....but
I guess they got the green light.....so congrats!!

[Darth Marley]

Good news if it all pans out.
Hope for official word to come soon.
The pro mini "sources" have been saying 14Jan as when the announcment should be expected.

[jeditemple]

If they go to a series, I hope it doesn't suffer from a lack of a good budget. I'd hate to see them recycling footage from the mini-series...or lacking good sets. Sci-Fi should can some of their lackluster shows and move some money over to BSG. I imagine the "number crunchers" have been busy.

[sihirvyth2]

Can anyone with some knowledge of 'the business' comment on the whole 'Sci-Fi shows are expensive to produce' quandry?

I realize it takes time and talent to produce special effects, but the tools and technology have improved that it's certainly easier to do more with less. And while I know that an ensemble cast costs money, this doesn't seem to stop other non-sci-fi shows. In addition there's the merchandizing aspect of Sci-Fi that has the potential to bring in millions of dollars. I've never heard of a 'West Wing Convention'.

Reality shows aren't that cheap to produce either. It's been commented on elsewhere that insurance costs for shows like Scare Tactics can be quite high.

It would be nice to see a balance sheet of a show like BSG to see where all the money goes and what the actual costs are, but barring that, can anyone maybe go into a bit of detail? Sometimes I think the whole 'money and special effects' thing is just an excuse.

[Dogface]

Originally posted by sihirvyth2
[B]Can anyone with some knowledge of 'the business' comment on the whole 'Sci-Fi shows are expensive to produce' quandry?

They are "expensive" the same way that Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction are "expensive". They get no respect from the nobs at the counry club. Thus, even when they have good ratings and an audience, they get canceled. At one time, TV execs just didn't bother justifying it. Now, they can always trot out the old "expense" lie and know that most people will quite gullibly swallow it.

However, TV executives are hominoid primates, too (actual human status is still debatable). It has been well established that homonoid primates place a great deal of importance in how they are treated when it comes to the mutual lice-picking societies they form. Thus, when the lice-pickers from FOX, CBS or NBC make fun of the lice-pickers from SciFi for showing "space shows", it hurts the SciFi licepickers' feelings enough that they decide to copy the higher-status lice-pickers' behavior, creating "reality" shows with an alleged "SciFi twist", kind of like the way that a Coca-Cola served with a little paper umbrella is a US soda with "a Polynesian twist".

These programming decisions are made in an attempt to improve status among the other lice-picking hominoid primates at the more fashionable water holes and termite mounds.

:colada::devil:

[thomas7g]

Originally posted by sihirvyth2
Can anyone with some knowledge of 'the business' comment on the whole 'Sci-Fi shows are expensive to produce' quandry?

Alot of it relates to fiscal budget cycles. A company like scifi channel is owned by someone. They are required to submit a yearly budget. That contains yearly expected costs. The parent company then allocates that money, and proceeds to allocate the rest of its earnings in other investments.

so that means once you pass the approval date of the annual budget, all funds of the parent company are invested for the year. Companies like to invest as much of their assests as possible in order to generate as much return as possible on their investment. Cash sitting around earns the least amount of returns. So that's how scifi could not have alot of money.

To borrow money from an invester or with a loan means that you will not generate as much money this year than if you waited another year. Loans have interests which will be subtracted from your profits. Investers consume part of your profits in exchange for investing.

Yes, a BG2004 investment would make money. But wouldn't a Jay Leno special produce a greater return on NBC's investment? Or a Friends Christmas special? Or maybe Julia Roberts wants to do a movie. Or maybe you could invest it into securing the rights to host the Super Bowl, or The Academy Awards. Alot depends on what else there is to spend NBC's money on.

[koenigrules]

I checked out the official Olmos site today, and the moderator said this was the same story that was posted a week ago on darkhorizon.com- so nothing has changed.
Can you confirm this?

[Darth Marley]

I doubt Tom would stoop to the level of the rumor mogers.

But then,anyone can be lied to.

[koenigrules]

I would be very pleased if this was true, that's all.
Is it possible to request an update on this info- both on this thread & the Aaron Q & A thread also running.
Thanks...

[jewels]

koenig: this is just based on a friend of conundrum's running into Olmos and asking.

That's all. But it is better than an anonymous report to an online rumor/news site like Dark Horizons, as at least it's someone real running into EJO and we know it happened last night.

As to whether the actors ever know anything---when DeSanto's efforts were completely cut off in April 2002, Tom D. the executive producer no less, was told by friends that his project was dead. Universal didn't bother to let him know they were rethinking at all. Just to give you a sample of how weird Hollywood can be.

[peter noble]

Originally posted by conundrum7g
Yes, a BG2004 investment would make money. But wouldn't a Jay Leno special produce a greater return on NBC's investment? Or a Friends Christmas special? Or maybe Julia Roberts wants to do a movie. Or maybe you could invest it into securing the rights to host the Super Bowl, or The Academy Awards. Alot depends on what else there is to spend NBC's money on.

If you're using NBC as just as an example Tom, my bad.

I'd just like to point out that NBC still haven't got the keys to the car as far as Universal is concerned. The deal has to satify a number of governmental regulators.

If all goes well, the deal should be closed by April/May. Then, it may very well happen that there could be money available for a mini or series of BSG'03.

Peter

[Dogface]

:tyrol:

Just checking...

[thomas7g]

Koenig- I wouldn't take what I said as fact. Infact I wouldn't even worry about this at all. Too many people are investing too much into this. What happens happens.

I just heard from a friend. He's a good guy. And I thought people might wanna hear. But like I said, don't go nutty over this. Its just a possible thing. but for the record, it has nothing to do with the dark horizons thing.

Please everyone, relax. :)

Peter- I was just trying to point out to people that a corporatin has a different way of approaching handling finances. Butyes you are right. NBC isn't suppose to gain the keys to Universal and Scifi until the next fiscal quarter at least. :D

[The Rain]

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Yeah, baby!