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ojai22
December 1st, 2003, 06:16 PM
Subject: Caution when filling your gas tank

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.

In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump.

In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.

And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car.


You should know that:

Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes.

Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a spark for ignition.

Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boats, etc.

Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e. solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)


To sum it up, here are the Four Rules for Safe Refueling:

1) Turn off engine
2) Don't smoke
3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling


Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity" at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.

His results were very surprising:

1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.

2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas. When finished and they went back to pull the nozzle out, the fire started as a result of static.

3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.

4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.

5)Seventeen fires occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and before fueling began.

6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.

7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was re-entered and the nozzle was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer.

8) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas.


Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas.

If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.

As I mentioned earlier The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger.You can find out more information by going to http://www.pei.org/ . Once here, click in the center of the screen where it says "Stop Static."

I ask you to please send this information to ALL your family and friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the children out in time.

Thanks for passing this along.

Pat Cabiling
--Chevrontexaco USA RFMS Richmond California Refinery
Phone: (510) 242-1454

BST
December 1st, 2003, 06:36 PM
Thanks for the reminder, Ojai!

I read the article about "static electricity" and make sure that I touch some metal part of the vehicle or door before reaching for the gas nozzle, etc.

Also worth mentioning is that when filling a portable gasoline container,
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS remove it from the vehicle and SET IT ON THE GROUND before filling it.

nightscape2112
December 2nd, 2003, 09:47 AM
wow i did not know about the cell phones causing gas vapor to ignite. i will never use a cell phone while fueling a vehicle. thanks for the warning,

nightscape

Proximo
December 2nd, 2003, 11:25 AM
The thing about cell phones is an urban myth, fortunately. I've seen experimental evidence that completely disproves it - in the form of a dozen phones in a gasoline-filled caravan completely failing to set it off. I suspect that the cell phone story started with a few explosions where someone was coincidentally using a phone.

A second test on the caravan with static electricity made a big bang. :)

ojai22
December 3rd, 2003, 08:28 AM
dru
Joined: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 20
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:11 pm__ _Post subject:
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ONeil/frankncc72405a wrote:
as develyn alluded to...the truth is not what was written above:
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

This is hoax.
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Hoax, perhaps but that doesn't stop cell companies and gas companies from warning you against use of cell phones while at the gas station. Here in California, I've seen stickers on pumps prohibiting cell usage. The snopes coverage alludes to that. Clearly someone, somewhere has concluded there's some risk.

Frankly, the cell phone obsession irritates me greatly especially those who insist on using their cell phones in a medical facility with clearly posted policies against such use since the danger to patients or equipment malfunction is real (read past where it states the myth is false since only the death account is false): http://www.snopes.com/horrors/techno/hospital.htm.Back to top

Muffit
December 3rd, 2003, 10:45 AM
Ooh, one other warning!

Do NOT watch a DVD of the mini in your car while fueling (or any other time). Rumor has it your heart will implode.

:) :muffit:

emerita
December 19th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Whether anyone thinks this is a hoax or not, I believe it. A friend of mine lost her husband that way. He answered his cell while pumping gas and the gas vapors were ignited and he was burned to death. He was 42 years old. To young to die like that.

ojai22
December 19th, 2003, 05:24 PM
Thank you, Em.

Muffit
December 19th, 2003, 06:50 PM
There was a show on recently, something like "Myth Busters" or some such, that tried to dismiss it. Thing is, you really can't reproduce real life in a lab setting. Too many variables that we don't think of. I think the possibility of these scenarios really is likely - you can get a spark from just getting out of your car.

Something I just watched was the 100th anniversary of the Kitty Hawk flight. They did absolutely everything they could over the last five months to recreate the exact plane and criteria, using some of the smartest people we have today. The 17th was the anniv. date and they tried to refly the historic flight right to the minute. 40,000 people showed up. And then...

And then, life happened. Unpredictability prevailed. It rained and the wind dropped. Despite the best efforts of some truly talented people, we could not refly the original Wright Borthers flight, even after 100 years of advanced knowledge.

Amazing... those 2 bicycle mechanics must've really been geniuses, in any century...

:muffit:

bsg1fan1975
December 22nd, 2003, 12:58 PM
Its against the law here to use your cell phone while you are pumping gas!