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peter noble
May 8th, 2003, 10:35 AM
http://www.genreonline.net/Battlestar_Galactica_Photos_Sci-Fi.html

That Viper looks like it's made by Mattell!

Peter

KJ
May 8th, 2003, 10:46 AM
See the olmos quote up at Dark Horizons and then get the link to another site to see the pic or go here at http://www.genreonline.net/TV_Reviews.html

Guess it happening folks and man? Check out those weird picture along with the anticipated B.S. they brought up about fans wanting this? yeah right.

See Pictures of

- Gaius Baltar

- New Vipers

- Launch tubes

- Green Colonial uniforms

- Galactica maintance crews at work

- Two people kissing? (where is that the colonies or Canada?)

and more?

KJ

the3rdhuman
May 8th, 2003, 11:08 AM
The Starbuch chick is flat-out goony looking. She'll really be believable playing that role.

Looks like they finally released the name of the eye candy playing Number Sex… I mean number Six.

Stevew
May 8th, 2003, 11:13 AM
Sad, The original gals were so far better looking, these would not even be in the hunt. Vipers look good but I would expect that after 25yrs. Why don't they call it something else and let it stand on its own merits
S:mad: :( :mad:

jewels
May 8th, 2003, 11:23 AM
The helmets are giving me deja vu--where have I seen those before??

jewels
May 8th, 2003, 11:25 AM
moving and merging into GO3 forum & similar thread
Jewels

crash4587
May 8th, 2003, 11:29 AM
must be pukeing

KJ
May 8th, 2003, 11:33 AM
Personally i want Olmos remarks to come back and bite him in the ass.

Time for a little humor!

Universal exec: The BG remake rating are in? hmmm 17 people in North America tuned in. Edward James Olmos come here please???

(Olmos seen sneaking away)

Exec : Hey get back here?

Edward: Er what?

Exec: You told people not to watch, but rather get the DVD of the original?

Edward: And

Exec: And AND, you idiot, ahh Jesus, look you Robotech looking Captain Gloval look alike, the DVD's sold out 5 million copies within weeks, but only 17 people watched the remake?

Another exec: Well actually, 10 board room members all agreed to leave their TV on to watch the channel while their were at work.

Exec: meaning?

The other exec: Only 7 people in North America watched sir?

(Edward James Olmos continues to escape)

All the board room Exec start having heart problems!

The other execs: what do we tell the guys in Las Vegas?

Another exec: What do you mean?

Head exec: We bet this script of Ron Moore's would blow 'em away.now i owe the mafia more money than before.

Another exec: Ahhh just put the blame on Bonnie Hammer as usual, she is our scape goat after all. Sent those worthless soap actors o the bottom of the heap, and tell Ron Moore i'll have an Ice soda, with fries, apple pie and a Whopper Jr to go.

KJ

the3rdhuman
May 8th, 2003, 11:34 AM
Looks like they might have come from "Alien"

peter noble
May 8th, 2003, 11:40 AM
Looks like the 2001 inspired helmet Captain Sheridan wore in the B5 movie Thirdspace!

Another rip-off rears its ugly head (and I don't mean Katee Sackhoff).

Peter

jewels
May 8th, 2003, 11:41 AM
Um, what is sexy about the number Six chick? T'pol and 7of9 had some curves, so I understand that. BSG Dan--you pegged number 6's costume perfectly!

But Maren , Laurette, Anne and Jane could blow this lady off the soundstage in their day (and of them, the ones with more current photos available STILL would have this woman beat. Am I wrong about that???)

KJ
May 8th, 2003, 11:41 AM
HEY FOR CHRIST'S SAKES STOP THAT???

Discussion forums for news so i put up the news, if your gonna keep up this draconian behavior change CF name to sci-fi channel Bboards number 2?

Christ on a bike, it is more BG news that you care to admit o.k. quite frankly you can't fix galactica 2003 cos it's a remake i ain't interested in fixing anymore.

News is news but knock it off already. i'll post news in other forums if need be. DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL US AS WELL!

Geeez




:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

jewels
May 8th, 2003, 11:48 AM
KJ
AGAIN. the GO3 discussion thread is for G03 fixing it and discussion of the remake news items.

BSG discussion is for TOS BSG and everything continuation oriented.

If you put it in the right place we won't move it on you. Learn the new system my dear, it has advantages!

And do not ever refer to this as Draconian or compare us to skiffy. :mad:
We are your comrades.

KJ
May 8th, 2003, 11:59 AM
Why in god's green earth would i? i placed in the discussion forum to be discussed, if you abuse the power you have it your problem not mine. I have no love of Galactica remade by Moore and co. so no i won't put my news in fixing it cos unless i'm in contact with them and they respected the fans opinions then i have no business putting news in a place where most of the discussion wasn't where i placed it.

Quite frankly if we have less freedom then the system needs to be changed again. don't get me wrong, i'm still a good guy to get on with, but i don't B.S. you either and i do not agree with this constant moving of posts about.

KJ

:(

kingfish
May 8th, 2003, 12:28 PM
The ships may be cool but the whole thing STINKS. Our show destroyed by these fools. :mad:

The Blue Mule
May 8th, 2003, 12:33 PM
Hi All!

Wow what can one say accept,... Salieri. I never thought music like that was possible.- Amadeus.

No really,...I can not believe the low concept,sterile, plastic look of the sets,props, and designs. I though they were suppose to be at war for many years? I thought they were suppose to make a BETTER looking BSG? All they achieved was a 2003 Anime wanna be look.

Talk about bringing tv sci fi back to its low budget (Oh the Fans will accept anything) roots.

Truly a sad day for all Sci fi, it's this kind of example of low quality, non Operatic sence that has kep't me from most of todays recent live action american sci fi. No high concept,no Wonder, no WOW, just the run-of-the-mill,do whats been done before, Bugetary concern/constraint approach.

God after all these years of WAITING,and this is the Crap they offer up to us? Junk,with sex,disfunctional characters, and a enemy plot device that can be traced to countless original and more gripping drama. They are making a "product",not art.

Don't need it,don't wan't it.

Pathetic!

Rich Kranz.

kingfish
May 8th, 2003, 12:35 PM
Just think of it they are giving us Pornostar Galactica 2003. :mad:

KJ
May 8th, 2003, 12:40 PM
Wow, and i thought this would be just another ho hum bah remake thread. I've never seen so many pissed members in one day?

You too Kingfish?

KJ

jewels
May 8th, 2003, 12:46 PM
KJ,
We try to keep the forums organized by subject matter. All of the X2 threads are in the Cafe's Non Galactican Thread for instance. Keeps our current enthusiasm for Tom and X2 from overshadowing the real reason we are here--BSG and fighting or fixing the remake.

Think of the separate forums as a way to simplify our stance for newcomers. It's blatantly obvious where we stand and it helps the rest of us too if the G03 stuff is separate.
------
And please do not address my Lord, Jesus, like that. As one of his followers, I'd appreciate you not using his name in that manner. That's not a mandate, just a request for a personal favor not to stomp on the one who my beliefs rest in. That's not as a mod, that's just as me.

Jewels

jewels
May 8th, 2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by The Blue Mule

Wow what can one say accept,... Salieri. I never thought music like that was possible.- Amadeus.

No really,...I can not believe the low concept,sterile, plastic look of the sets,props, and designs. I though they were suppose to be at war for many years? I thought they were suppose to make a BETTER looking BSG? All they achieved was a 2003 Anime wanna be look.

THAT's what bugged me about the viper: It's never seen a battle!!!! and this is realistic? I know the Cylons were absent for 40 years but that is more fresh from the factory than a patrol viper could possibly be.....

TwoBrainedCylon
May 8th, 2003, 01:00 PM
Again, I don't like the costumes and really don't like the script but the vipers are growing on me.

I can't help it.

Still not worth watching though.

Two-Brain

kingfish
May 8th, 2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by TwoBrainedCylon
Again, I don't like the costumes and really don't like the script but the vipers are growing on me.

I can't help it.

Still not worth watching though.

Two-Brain


Sandy I believe the picture is of a classic Starhound Viper. These can't be the newer Viper they talked about.

RGrant
May 8th, 2003, 01:17 PM
Baltar: Is this the little kid from "Who's the Boss?" He looks like an adult version of him.

Vipers: Kind of neat, but they're just way too white. They owe a lot to the originals, yet somehow they remind me more of that old white viper toy that used to shoot the red missle from the nose. I don't like the canopy which slides front to back now. The old top-closing viper cockpit was classic, just like the whining noise that went along with it. Even the gray color of the classic viper made it seem more real.

Viper Helmet: Bland. Too square and boring. Not as bad as that shiny 50's-era gold pilot costume, though.

These designs are extremely forgettable compared to the originals. In an attempt to go with "sleeker," they took away all the personality, just like today's modern cars all blend in to one another. All the sharp lines are eliminated and you can't tell one brand from the other. But you can instantly identify something fifteen or twenty years old. The viper's corners have been taken away, as have the helmet's. I'm sure the Cylon Centurions will have all their sharp edges removed too. I like sleek as much as the next guy, but overindulging in sleek can lead to slippery, as in slipping right out of your mind. These designs will be forgotten. The old designs will remain in peoples' minds.

KJ
May 8th, 2003, 01:26 PM
quoted by RGrant Viper Helmet: Bland. Too square and boring. Not as bad as that shiny 50's-era gold pilot costume, though.

There's very little personality here. These designs are extremely forgettable compared to the originals. In an attempt to go with "sleeker," they took away all the personality, just like today's modern cars all blend in to one another. All the sharp lines are eliminated and you can't tell one brand from the other. But you can instantly identify something fifteen or twenty years old. The viper's corners have been taken away, as have the helmet's. I'm sure the Cylon Centurions will have all their sharp edges removed too. I like sleek as much as the next guy, but these overindulging in sleek can lead to slippery, as in slipping right out of your mind. These designs will be forgotten. The old designs will remain in peoples' minds.


What else would you expect from a guy who rewrote the hold saga minus the Mythology, Biblical references, Ancient Earth motifs etc. Ron "i'll change everyones sex gender, add hornier Cylons and do you want fries with that" Moore along with hammer and co did this to kill the franchise off.

I'd like to give hollywood execs some credit, but how can you when heartbreaking stuff like this gets out, fans all over the world must be going , Nooooooooooooo!

KJ

Bet we like DeSanto's BG Cylons designs from wayyyyy back alot more now, remember when fans said they were too bizarre? Not anymore their not.

BSGDAN
May 8th, 2003, 02:10 PM
:upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: So, finally, we see proof of the production. Good for Ronnie. Now, tell me what's so special about it? From what I can tell, everything we've feared is coming true. Tacky sex scenes (I missed her glowing spine), piss-poor costumes (and doesn't that one outfit look like the Starbuck uniform that was on eBay?), etc. In fact, the only thing that people seem to like is the Viper, AND THAT CAN BE CREDITED TO THE ORIGINAL SERIES! Despite it's minor changes, it looks like it could be an extention of the ones from 25 years ago. It's no wonder that's the only thing to get a positive response from anyone. The pilot helmets look (shall I say it?) ordinary. They look like they were taken from a box labeled "generic scifi props". And having the pilots' names and callsigns on the Vipers just screams "Top Gun". It just looks silly. Still, I will give Ronnie credit. To counter the photos of those butt-ugly costumes from last week, he had enough sense to release some photos of the Vipers to try and control the damage. Now, how about showing other things. You know, the GALACTICA and her "gift shop", the humanoid Cylons (i'm sure they'll go over well), the Raiders, Edward James Olmos' Adama, and all of the other "wonderful" things they have in store for us. Don't just hide behind a prop ripped-off from the great original show.

I don't know why, but I suddenly have the urge to watch "Top Gun"...

Dan

Sept17th
May 8th, 2003, 04:33 PM
First I’m a little angry at the slight momentary twinge of excitement I got; it was new, it was Battlestar Galactica then I quickly remembered that in so many important ways it was not.

Now, get off poor Katie I don’t know anything about her but she appears to be the scapegoat. What blows hard is all this CGI stuff; it would be great as concept art. Am I the only one who thinks it all looks way to fake the launch bay set, and poor Katie looks like she’ sitting in a drawing. These pics would displease me in a DeSanto production of course I would take pleasure in the treatment of the characters.

To sum up the Vipers don’t look all that good

:cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon:

LadyImmortal
May 8th, 2003, 04:33 PM
In the interest of 'fairness' (not like they give US any, but I'm a bigger person than the remake fans are...)

I like the viper - it does look sleek - maybe too sleek (where are the burn marks? The signs that it's been in battle? Man, you mean they can make brand new vipers at the drop of a hat? What do we have to worry about then?)

I like the new helmet but I like the old helmet better with it's Egyptian-feel too it. There was just nothing like those old helmets.

Oh, I figured out why the vipers have the pilots names on them. It's the only way anyone will be able to tell who is who! HAHA

--Rhonda

CylonLucifer
May 8th, 2003, 04:52 PM
Didn't they lift the helmet design from that classic movie?

KJ
May 8th, 2003, 05:35 PM
Nope the Vipers are too white looking, although very interesting in design. What was Michael Faries BIG news of April going to be cause it's May now?

Didn't we all get the impression the rug was gonna be pulled out from Moore and Hammer's "Battlestar S&M Pornolactica" before the month of May came round? Doesn't look like it happened yet. or even will.

The remake makes me :upchuck: :upchuck: :upchuck:

And is very heart breaking :cry:

I'm very disappointed in the studios abiltiy to even listen to people let alone fans, if Ted Turner, Bill Gates or Rupert Murdock were network executives Battlestar Galactica would have come back years ago with bells on.

But alas no, we've got PTB exec who pee on us just to get a crusty crappy remake done to satisify the non-fans and Trekkers to make a few little buck on the side.

To use a sports quip "It's the bottom of the 9th" and the PTB make a foolish pass to number 7 Ron Moore, DeSanto was on the left and would have caught it, he goes pass Singer and Hatch, touches 3rd base and goes for fourth, Larson stands between him and the 4th base wait Hammer block Larson path letting Moore pass he goes onto 4th. Referee PTB calls it SAFE! Universal win.

Or do they? After all, we're the ones who keep saying we won't watch right?

KJ

Guess we do have the power, not to watch the new Battlestar Galactica, that is.

David Kerin
May 8th, 2003, 05:41 PM
I too have to admit to a moment of excitement when I saw the Vipers. Sadly that all went quickly away.

While close, the Vipers do not have anything near the personality or even detail of the original. The decals are all very earth standard with the "NO STEP" & "RESCUE" markings.

For a man with the arrogance of Ron Moore who claimed to be re-inventing science fiction, it all looks unimaginative and quickly compared to other shows... ironically the one show it's mostly not compared to is the original Galactica.

I would be willing to place money on whether those helmets are borrowed rather than designed for this production. If they are original designs then that is just sad.

Visually I think it lacks any real originallity or creativity.

And, I don't mean to pick on someone's appearance, but Katee Shackoff makes me ask, "This is the best person they could find?"


Huh... it seems the more I see of this production, the more I know I won't be watching.





Although I have to remember the level of intelligence this production is aimed toward... and let me alter my comments to fit that.

Here goes...

"I think Jamie Bamber looks dreamy in his uniform. And Katee makes me want to Shackoff."

"Number 6 is hot... I'll be lining up for sex with that Cylon."

There... I don't know if that was right, but I've been trying to learn from the fans of Moore over at the other site.

jewels
May 8th, 2003, 08:31 PM
*drags David to her VCR to remind him of the real BSG, lol*
We must not let the neos reprogram you....

Trust me, Richard & Dirk have Jaimie beat. Theirs or their character's names are the first thing out of every woman's mouth that remembers the show. (Right after they usually say "everyone watched that show, it was THE show")

kingfish
May 9th, 2003, 06:17 AM
I read that was from the DeSanto Production.

dah66
May 9th, 2003, 09:28 AM
The plastic looking, all white viper is a mistake. It reminds of a ship that I recently saw in a Japanese monster movie -- not sure which one, maybe it was one of those newer Ultraman movies. Did the script changes include having the Colonies attacked by giant monsters? If so, then these ships should work out just fine.

Baltar looks like Fabio's less buff brother.

Number Six looks way too thin.

I'm not sure if I find Katie attractive or not. I don't think that I have ever seen a really good picture of this actress. My problem could be that I'm comparing her to the actresses from the original series. And let's face it, those ladies were strikingly beautiful.

On a positive note, the guy playing Apollo seems to have excellent posture.

Overall, I'm not impressed. This certainly doesn't look like the complete reinvention of television science fiction.

Dave

peter noble
May 9th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by dah66
On a positive note, the guy playing Apollo seems to have excellent posture.

LOL!

Peter

the3rdhuman
May 9th, 2003, 10:48 AM
Everything is just too squeaky clean and illuminated. Gives me the impression of a typical run-of-the-mill TV production. They need to find some of the folks who once worked for Tim Burton to handle the lighting.

Katee is not photogenic at all.

kingfish
May 9th, 2003, 03:18 PM
They could be all fakes.

repcisg
May 9th, 2003, 04:07 PM
In the pictures, there are a total of seven (7) images in three rows.

In row 2 image 2, the lable under the cockpit says "RAYGUN" or am I losing it.

JSC1
May 9th, 2003, 04:24 PM
Nice Viper, but that's it.

I'm not watching this. I have no wish to.

And the guy they have as Gaius Baltar reminds me of Steven Weber from 'Wings.'

Universal wants my viewership? Then I expect a written response from them saying that the re-imagining of Battlestar alactica is aborted and scrapped:Effective immediately. And that plans for a continuation of the original series are in the works.

I also expect Ronald Moore, David Eick and Bonnie Hammer FIRED from their current positions and replaced with more fan friendly personel.

Do the right thing. Give the audience what it wants.

Re-imagining is NOT what the audience wants.

Raymar3d
May 9th, 2003, 05:14 PM
Here's a little something interesting...

It's a ship from the BSG trailer I had the pleasure of animating. A little background on it: It was a prototype high speed interceptor, and there was only one in the mix with the original viper and the scarlett viper designed by Steve Parady and redesigned and rebuilt by James Betteridge.

Ken

http://www.demonslayers.org/ViperInterceptorJIMBROWN.JPG

jewels
May 9th, 2003, 05:25 PM
That (Ken's sample) looks more like it's had a few trips down a launch tube... and it's CGI not paint & Fiberglass or wood.

I wondered about the RayGun thing too.

kingfish
May 9th, 2003, 05:28 PM
I love the blue markings which could symbolize the Squadron. Cool.

Stevew
May 9th, 2003, 05:38 PM
Agreed Paul, it would be much easier to identify each squadren
S:thumbsup:
Thanks for the pik Ken
S:D

LadyImmortal
May 9th, 2003, 06:46 PM
That is one VERY cool Viper!

Wow! I'm TOTALLY blown away here!

dilbertman
May 9th, 2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by kingfish
I love the blue markings which could symbolize the Squadron. Cool.
Yes they are for the squadron. Blue squardron has blue strips etc...


This is from the website Mr. Brown had up years ago. He and his partner Daryl Wofford also did a new Battlestar design, new shuttle (that KICKED ASS), the Viper that Ken is showing above and a new Cylon Basestar and Raider (that was in the first cut of Richard's BSG:T2C video). The shuttle is also in the BSG:T2C video, if I'm right it's when Apollo is on the platform in the mountains and said he will not let the human race be defeated again. It takes off in the background, let me know if I'm right Ken.

Ken if you have any more ships from them. POST!POST!POST!

Thanks

Jim:colwar::drool:

dilbertman
May 9th, 2003, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Raymar3d
Here's a little something interesting...

It's a ship from the BSG trailer I had the pleasure of animating. A little background on it: It was a prototype high speed interceptor, and there was only one in the mix with the original viper and the scarlett viper designed by Steve Parady and redesigned and rebuilt by James Betteridge.

Ken


Ken

I see on the image it said "used with permission". Are you in contact with Mr. Brown again, or is this from when he was working on the video with you and Mike M.

Jim:colwar:

Raymar3d
May 9th, 2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by dilbertman
Ken

I see on the image it said "used with permission". Are you in contact with Mr. Brown again, or is this from when he was working on the video with you and Mike M.

Jim:colwar:

I haven't been able to reach Jim Brown or Darryl Wofford since their website went down eons ago, so, the pic is from when we used it in the trailer, although I just rendered the image this evening from the 3d model. I had specific permission to use it in the trailer, the pic gives him full credit, so I hope that's okay with him. No infringement is intended.

As for his other models, yes the shuttle was used in the scene you mentioned. The baseship he made, and the battlestar, were interesting models, but were not used in the trailer, although the baseship was under serious consideration, and might have been used if we would have had more time, as another baseship class.

Ken

dilbertman
May 9th, 2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Raymar3d
I haven't been able to reach Jim Brown or Darryl Wofford since their website went down eons ago, so, the pic is from when we used it in the trailer, although I just rendered the image this evening from the 3d model. I had specific permission to use it in the trailer, the pic gives him full credit, so I hope that's okay with him. No infringement is intended.

As for his other models, yes the shuttle was used in the scene you mentioned. The baseship he made, and the battlestar, were interesting models, but were not used in the trailer, although the baseship was under serious consideration, and might have been used if we would have had more time, as another baseship class.

Ken
Ken

Are you able to post a image of the shuttle from the trailer??? I hope I hope I hope. If not that's cool, Looking forward to seeing the GWoM trailer this summer.

Jim:colwar:

Raymar3d
May 9th, 2003, 09:51 PM
Jim,

Sorry, the only model I had was the viper. I might be able to screen grab a shot of it that's in the trailer, if I do, I'll give it to MF to post at bsg.com if Richard approves.

Ken

dilbertman
May 9th, 2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Raymar3d
Jim,

Sorry, the only model I had was the viper. I might be able to screen grab a shot of it that's in the trailer, if I do, I'll give it to MF to post at bsg.com if Richard approves.

Ken
Ken

Tell Richard if he doesn't let you post a screen shot, the next time I see him I will kick his a**!:bash::hack:Just kidding. How is GWoM looking?

Jim:colwar:

dilbertman
May 9th, 2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Raymar3d
I haven't been able to reach Jim Brown or Darryl Wofford since their website went down eons ago, so, the pic is from when we used it in the trailer, although I just rendered the image this evening from the 3d model. I had specific permission to use it in the trailer, the pic gives him full credit, so I hope that's okay with him. No infringement is intended.

Ken

Well if that doesn't give you permission, then let him come over here and tell you it doesn't. That's one-way to get back in contact with him.:laugh:

Jim:colwar:

peter noble
May 10th, 2003, 04:06 AM
Hey Ken,

On the 'RAYGUN' viper there is another name above the RAYGUN lettering, which looks like RAYMAR!

A tribute to you perhaps?

Peter

dru
May 10th, 2003, 05:00 AM
Well...

First off, I'm excited. Any chance to see a Viper on film, in her launchbay again. *sigh* (wipes fake tear)

Is that Starbuck? Eeek.

The "Viper" looks so sterile and plastic fitting in so well with Buck Rogers or the Rebel Blockade Runner's hallways. Why doesn't she look used like in TOS? The launch bay is very Last Starfighter. Launchbay crew look like Episode IV extras. None of this looks modern to my eye.

The mystique of the old costumes is gone. Far, far gone. The current ones look cheesy. The design of the helmet is stolen from Macross: The Movie. The only improvement over the original in the faceplate.

Still, it'll be fun to see how cliched sci-fi, lame, hack-ish and cheesed-up Battlestar can be made. This looks *exactly* like my worst nightmare of a Sci-Fi Channel remake. It seems clear to me the budget to do it right simply isn't there. TOS spent its money more wisely. This has next to nothing to do with Battlestar Galactica no matter what title they give it.

CylonLucifer
May 10th, 2003, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by repcisg
In the pictures, there are a total of seven (7) images in three rows.

In row 2 image 2, the lable under the cockpit says "RAYGUN" or am I losing it.

You're not losing it. That's typical of the current military protocol, so to speak, of putting the pilot's name and call sign on his aircraft. I can't read what's above "RAYGUN" but if I could, it would be a rank and name, i.e. Cpt. Bill Smith.

So we have yet another example of this production being present-day humans in space and not what the original was about.

Raymar3d
May 10th, 2003, 07:31 AM
Synthetic humans....

New Cylon (http://store.daz3d.com/catalog/product.php?pcode=ps_ac456b)

Stevew
May 10th, 2003, 07:35 AM
I'm converted LOL
S:D :D :D :D

Raymar3d
May 10th, 2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by peter noble
Hey Ken,

On the 'RAYGUN' viper there is another name above the RAYGUN lettering, which looks like RAYMAR!

A tribute to you perhaps?

Peter

Funny you should say that.... I saw it and said to myself, thank God, it didn't say Raymar!

Ken

Raymar3d
May 10th, 2003, 06:40 PM
Helmet picture (http://www.startrek.com/library/media_ENT.asp?id=113654)

Doesn't it look the same?

Ken

jewels
May 10th, 2003, 07:37 PM
Change the color, keep the metallic finish, make the visor glass have a little bit of shape - 3 planes to it instead of completely spherical. Yeah, been there done that, too similar. :p

::edit:: where I thought there was some definition to the G03 visor was just a bad reflection in the middle of Katee's face. Ignore that comment::

It's spooky that the top stabilizer on the TSC interceptor you showed us has nearly identical height & shape and the type placement for "Galactica" is a rip off.

There is also a very Earth-based millitary sheild insignia near the nose of that viper.

I think we need to rename this Battlestar Enterprise or Battlestar Intrepid.:rolleyes:

BSGDAN
May 10th, 2003, 08:10 PM
the helmet looks like the ones used in "The Abyss" (not exactly, but close).
Nothing designed for this project is either original or memorable. It's just thoughtless.

Dan

conconcv66
May 10th, 2003, 08:26 PM
take a closer look at that emblem on the nose of the viper does that say pegasus?http://www.geocities.com/cuber66/pegasus_Sticker.jpg

ShebaApollo
May 11th, 2003, 12:29 AM
Hello All!

This is my first post here. I just looked at the pictures of the "new" Battlestar Galactica. I am absolutely unhappy! :cry: I want to know if there is a way out of this madness.

It is just mindboggling that this more than likely will be the "new" Galactica. I want my Apollo, Starbuck, and real Galactica back.

I will be around to talk some more!

ShebaApollo
:oreo: :heart:

Original Battlstar Galactica Fan!:warrior:
Original Starbuck Fan! :cowboy:

:cylon: :colwar: :muffit:

dilbertman
May 11th, 2003, 12:47 AM
Welcome ShebaApollo

I see you are from Georgia. You may want to check this site out.

http://www.dragoncon.org/

Richard Hatch

Herb Jefferson Jr

and

NOAH HATHAWAY

Will be there this year.

Jim:colwar:

Check this out to.
http://www.galacticonevents.com/index2.html

Stevew
May 11th, 2003, 05:26 AM
Welcome ShebaApollo glad you could join us
S:D :D

CylonLucifer
May 11th, 2003, 05:47 AM
After a little bit of enlargement, it does look like the emblem says Pegasus across the top.

http://home.earthlink.net/~anotherone/Pegasus.jpg

It's difficult to see here, but when I enlarge it on my monitor, it has a lot of the appearances of 'Pegasus'.

And, welcome ShebaApollo. The more the merrier.

Last Battlestar
May 11th, 2003, 07:14 AM
I'm getting the feeling that the Viper we are seeing here is supposed to be a 'classic' Viper and not an updated version. But I could be wrong.

Surely a newer version would be radically different from the old? This one looks like the original with the corners rounded off!

It looks like Galactica has lost it's originality and gone to the tired old 90's sci fi 'dark' look. With TOS, you KNEW it was BG by the unique look of things alone. The whole 'Chariots of the Gods' theme has gone.

The producers in their wisdom have appeared to have ignored the ancient-Earth design cues completely and given us another cookie-cutter design look, just like the rest of the other shows.

Mike

kingfish
May 11th, 2003, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Last Battlestar
I'm getting the feeling that the Viper we are seeing here is supposed to be a 'classic' Viper and not an updated version. But I could be wrong.

Surely a newer version would be radically different from the old? This one looks like the original with the corners rounded off!

It looks like Galactica has lost it's originality and gone to the tired old 90's sci fi 'dark' look. With TOS, you KNEW it was BG by the unique look of things alone. The whole 'Chariots of the Gods' theme has gone.

The producers in their wisdom have appeared to have ignored the ancient-Earth design cues completely and given us another cookie-cutter design look, just like the rest of the other shows.

Mike

That is the Classic Starhound Viper we are seeing. They haven't released pics of the newer model yet.

BSGDAN
May 11th, 2003, 08:43 PM
:cylon: Ronnie, Bonnie, and Davey had a problem. They needed to counter the quickly-growing negative word of mouth that was coming from those photos of the extras in the extremely bad costumes. To do that, they released the only photos they had that wouldn't inspire even more negativity: the classic Viper (or their version of it). Now, instead of concentrating on the bad costumes (and Bamber's is just as bad as those others were), people are going ape over the fact that the Viper looks decent. Of course it looks decent. It's practically taken straight from the original. The changes aren't strong enough to inspire anger. However, the producers can't bask in the shine of this very minor success for long. People know that this is IT when it comes to being close to the original series. When the time comes that they release photos of the "new" Vipers, Raiders, Cylons, and especially the Galactica, the reaction will be worse than that of the costumes. Don't be fooled for a minute. This Viper is only here as a very minor nod to the original series' fans. They put it here so that they could tie it into a videogame, hoping that fans of TOS would find it close enough to the real thing that they would put down their $50 for the thing (despite their feelings towards the remake as a whole). They are also hoping that the idea of seeing this classic-type Viper in action will be enough to make us watch the show. Fat chance. They underestimate the resolve of the original's fanbase. We will not be tricked with such a transparant scam. Besides, no matter how decent the Viper may look, they ruined it by marking it up like it's Maverick's Tomcat in "Top Gun". I can just see Jamie Bamber and Katee Sackhoff flying around, while Berlin's "Take My Breath Away" plays in the background.

Lee: "Kara, you can be my wingman anytime"!

Oh, the horror...

Dan
:rage: :upchuck:

oldwardaggit
May 13th, 2003, 12:41 PM
It's pathetic when the only thing that remotely looks like something from Battlestar Galactica is a viper that is only in the show because it's an antique.


Calling all Battlestar Galactica fans. Line up Daily for a slap in the face because Ronny and Bonie are giving them out.


Someone said that this looked plastic. Well you know, even a show about Battlestar Galactica Lego would most likely stay more true to the original. LMAO


OWD

kingfish
May 13th, 2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by oldwardaggit
It's pathetic when the only thing that remotely looks like something from Battlestar Galactica is a viper that is only in the show because it's an antique.


Calling all Battlestar Galactica fans. Line up Daily for a slap in the face because Ronny and Bonie are giving them out.


Someone said that this looked plastic. Well you know, even a show about Battlestar Galactica Lego would most likely stay more true to the original. LMAO


OWD

Well said OWD. :thumbsup: :beer:

oldwardaggit
May 13th, 2003, 01:43 PM
Hey thanks


OWD

SeoulWind
May 13th, 2003, 05:23 PM
An interesting deveopment: http://www.jfcasting.com/previousbgpofthemonth.html

The pictures of the miniseries extras have been cropped to omit most of the costumes.

I wonder why...

Mark

Raymar3d
May 13th, 2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by SeoulWind
An interesting deveopment: http://www.jfcasting.com/previousbgpofthemonth.html

The pictures of the miniseries extras have been cropped to omit most of the costumes.

I wonder why...

Mark

Miniskirts and high heels?

CylonLucifer
May 24th, 2003, 05:57 AM
Maybe they were afraid that someone would steal their great designs? http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif

Senmut
May 26th, 2003, 07:05 PM
Of course the "Viper" shot is a bone to fans of the real thing. These people are soooooooo transparent. As to the helmet, can you say "Rotate the pod, HAL"?







- Amo patriam meum, quoniam meus est.

dilbertman
May 30th, 2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Deckape420n
Take a closer look at that emblem on the nose of the viper does that say pegasus?

Originally posted by CylonLucifer
[B]After a little bit of enlargement, it does look like the emblem says Pegasus across the top.

http://home.earthlink.net/~anotherone/Pegasus.jpg

It's difficult to see here, but when I enlarge it on my monitor, it has a lot of the appearances of 'Pegasus'.

And, welcome ShebaApollo. The more the merrier.

Hi

Just got the August 2003 Sci Fi magazine, on page 62 they have a photo of the new Viper that's been on the net for sometime. Any how that emblem says "PRIMUS". Hope this helps.

On page 63 Ron is talking moore of his BS:upchuck:. What a A-hole.

Jim:colwar:

Senmut
May 30th, 2003, 07:15 PM
If I buried copy in my garden, would it help my veggies






- Amo patria meum, quoniam meus est.

michaelfaries
May 30th, 2003, 07:35 PM
Don't you LOVE what they did with Tom DeSanto's Viper design? The Hammer missed the chance to kill this design change, too, in favor of something (most likely) uglier than this.

This production is making me ill. Where's the launch railing?! Where's the "classic Viper" mentioned in the script?

Michael
:colwar:

dilbertman
May 30th, 2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by michaelfaries
Don't you LOVE what they did with Tom DeSanto's Viper design? The Hammer missed the chance to kill this design change, too, in favor of something (most likely) uglier than this.

This production is making me ill. Where's the launch railing?! Where's the "classic Viper" mentioned in the script?

Michael
:colwar:
Michael

Are you saying this Viper is based off Tom's design? How much was changed?

Jim:colwar: