TwoBrainedCylon
April 18th, 2003, 07:03 AM
Scooter,
I'm reviving some old issues here:
I said at the end of the poll when folks were banned that eitehr TrekLord was a fraud OR the mods who banned folks were frauds. Devin's e-mail didn't check out as a valid Universal e-mail. He offerred the e-mail as proof that he was with the production.
Concurrently, Ron D. Moore also interacted in an unconventional way with Michael Faries and FilmJerk. He sent the draft copy of the script. That's a highly unusual step. The REAL Ron Moore says Michael is a liar. Someone isn't being on the up and up -- unless the RDM that gave the interview isn't the real guy we've been hating all of these months. I read the script and found some pretty apparent shortfalls compared to other production scripts I'd seen. I immediately said it didn't LOOK like the work of an experienced TV scriptwriter. It looked like a fan script. Michael confirmed that this was the same script he'd gotten.
That didn't seem to wash with me. I went back and reread the RDM interview on www.battlestargalactica.com . I noted that Ron didn't provide any real answers. Plus, the things he did say don't match what was included in the draft script.
- and how about that poll anyway. Search the archives and check the EARLY Treklord posts. They are hostile, "you're all a bunch of idiots" posts. Then suddenly, Devin is replaced by Lisa who seeks out fan input for Universal (who is covertly called Martian High Command). Why? Who would Universal be afraid of upsetting by gathering fan input? Cute handles does not a good research company make!
Now, "David" (Eick?) starts presenting interest not only in telling folks that the production is underway and doing just fine BUT is also worried about the Retros not liking the Neos. That seems pretty strange to me. Why would he care? RDM disavowed any knowledge of Milton and now Eick is coming to his rescue.
Who all has gotten responses from Eick via e-mail? I've seen quick updates included in Milton's letter but nothing from the other fans. Some Retros have written but haven't gotten any responses. I don't see the same tone on the SFC website that's being pushed in the posted e-mails. That isn't unusual in itself since telling a group of fans to go to Hell in an e-mail can be self-defeating. However, one of Eick's answers on the web site does intigue me.
Question: What will the new Cylons look and act like? Will they be CGI or men in suits?
Answeer: At the risk of giving away too much, I will only say there is more than one model of Cylon, and that their look and behavior will vary, depending on the model and depending on the conditions under which we are seeing them....
What? They gave away the script didn't they? Now they're woried about giving too much away?
- and lets go back to that script one more time.
To the last one, the fans are disgusted by it. Some have chosen to "give it a chance" and see what was changed but that's it. There's nothing new there. Its a huge Trek rip-off. Yet Eick and RDM still insist they're trying to stay true to the original, sans sex changed colonials. Now, I'm a simple guy who does animation. I'm not a studio exec. But, wouldn't you be a bit concerned if you released a script for a show and EVERYONE who was a fan hated it. Wouldn't you say STOP, especially given the fact that this is the mini that could make or break a new show. I would. Everyone I know who liked the original hates this idea. Yet, its pressing forward, against all logic.
- or is it? We've based EVERYTHING on the belief that the script Michael and Filmjerk got was the actual draft script. We're asked to believe that the man who wrote Generations, Relics, etc. suddenly said "Have the Cylon shove her hands down a guy's pants"! That will sell the show! We're asked to believe that an experienced television writer, who has experienced a long history of continued rewrites, suddenly opts to rush to Milton to help him. Milton comes forward, totally disrupts the fan base, and RDM's bosses who are supposedly watching all this shrug your shoulders. Would you tolerate that from someone you hired? I wouldn't.
- which brings us back to the script yet one more time. The SFC ad that ran has the eye because the studio refused to release any details to the guys who made the ad. That's another curious development for a group that already turned their draft script over to the internet. Now, they won't even tell their own advertisers what a show will involve.
Things just don't add up.
So, I thought, go to the source. I sent my own letter to David Eick. It reads:
"Sir,
I run a new Galactica website, www.cylon.org and maintain a message board there that converses primarily about your production. As you are aware, your production has gained adverse reaction due to a leaked draft script that was apparently sent to Michael Faries, webmaster of www.battlestargalactica.com and FilmJerk at www.filmjerk.com . The contents of that script resemble a Star Trek show rather than the Battlestar Galactica show we were hoping for. Elements such as as sexual assault by a humanoid Cylon and later sex acts have offended many of us with children who have sworn not to watch this show. Boycotts are being organized and a good section of the fanbase vows not to ever watch your miniseries due to other offensive elements in this script.
Can you confirm that a draft script was released to the two above named individuals.
If this is the case, can you give the fans an indication if the elements offensive to fans remain? If they have been removed, can you explain the process and outlook you used to determine what should be altered.
I greatly appreciate your time in this.
Sincerely,
Sandy"
We'll see if Mr. Eick bothers to answer me, and if he does, what his answers might be.
Two-Brain
I'm reviving some old issues here:
I said at the end of the poll when folks were banned that eitehr TrekLord was a fraud OR the mods who banned folks were frauds. Devin's e-mail didn't check out as a valid Universal e-mail. He offerred the e-mail as proof that he was with the production.
Concurrently, Ron D. Moore also interacted in an unconventional way with Michael Faries and FilmJerk. He sent the draft copy of the script. That's a highly unusual step. The REAL Ron Moore says Michael is a liar. Someone isn't being on the up and up -- unless the RDM that gave the interview isn't the real guy we've been hating all of these months. I read the script and found some pretty apparent shortfalls compared to other production scripts I'd seen. I immediately said it didn't LOOK like the work of an experienced TV scriptwriter. It looked like a fan script. Michael confirmed that this was the same script he'd gotten.
That didn't seem to wash with me. I went back and reread the RDM interview on www.battlestargalactica.com . I noted that Ron didn't provide any real answers. Plus, the things he did say don't match what was included in the draft script.
- and how about that poll anyway. Search the archives and check the EARLY Treklord posts. They are hostile, "you're all a bunch of idiots" posts. Then suddenly, Devin is replaced by Lisa who seeks out fan input for Universal (who is covertly called Martian High Command). Why? Who would Universal be afraid of upsetting by gathering fan input? Cute handles does not a good research company make!
Now, "David" (Eick?) starts presenting interest not only in telling folks that the production is underway and doing just fine BUT is also worried about the Retros not liking the Neos. That seems pretty strange to me. Why would he care? RDM disavowed any knowledge of Milton and now Eick is coming to his rescue.
Who all has gotten responses from Eick via e-mail? I've seen quick updates included in Milton's letter but nothing from the other fans. Some Retros have written but haven't gotten any responses. I don't see the same tone on the SFC website that's being pushed in the posted e-mails. That isn't unusual in itself since telling a group of fans to go to Hell in an e-mail can be self-defeating. However, one of Eick's answers on the web site does intigue me.
Question: What will the new Cylons look and act like? Will they be CGI or men in suits?
Answeer: At the risk of giving away too much, I will only say there is more than one model of Cylon, and that their look and behavior will vary, depending on the model and depending on the conditions under which we are seeing them....
What? They gave away the script didn't they? Now they're woried about giving too much away?
- and lets go back to that script one more time.
To the last one, the fans are disgusted by it. Some have chosen to "give it a chance" and see what was changed but that's it. There's nothing new there. Its a huge Trek rip-off. Yet Eick and RDM still insist they're trying to stay true to the original, sans sex changed colonials. Now, I'm a simple guy who does animation. I'm not a studio exec. But, wouldn't you be a bit concerned if you released a script for a show and EVERYONE who was a fan hated it. Wouldn't you say STOP, especially given the fact that this is the mini that could make or break a new show. I would. Everyone I know who liked the original hates this idea. Yet, its pressing forward, against all logic.
- or is it? We've based EVERYTHING on the belief that the script Michael and Filmjerk got was the actual draft script. We're asked to believe that the man who wrote Generations, Relics, etc. suddenly said "Have the Cylon shove her hands down a guy's pants"! That will sell the show! We're asked to believe that an experienced television writer, who has experienced a long history of continued rewrites, suddenly opts to rush to Milton to help him. Milton comes forward, totally disrupts the fan base, and RDM's bosses who are supposedly watching all this shrug your shoulders. Would you tolerate that from someone you hired? I wouldn't.
- which brings us back to the script yet one more time. The SFC ad that ran has the eye because the studio refused to release any details to the guys who made the ad. That's another curious development for a group that already turned their draft script over to the internet. Now, they won't even tell their own advertisers what a show will involve.
Things just don't add up.
So, I thought, go to the source. I sent my own letter to David Eick. It reads:
"Sir,
I run a new Galactica website, www.cylon.org and maintain a message board there that converses primarily about your production. As you are aware, your production has gained adverse reaction due to a leaked draft script that was apparently sent to Michael Faries, webmaster of www.battlestargalactica.com and FilmJerk at www.filmjerk.com . The contents of that script resemble a Star Trek show rather than the Battlestar Galactica show we were hoping for. Elements such as as sexual assault by a humanoid Cylon and later sex acts have offended many of us with children who have sworn not to watch this show. Boycotts are being organized and a good section of the fanbase vows not to ever watch your miniseries due to other offensive elements in this script.
Can you confirm that a draft script was released to the two above named individuals.
If this is the case, can you give the fans an indication if the elements offensive to fans remain? If they have been removed, can you explain the process and outlook you used to determine what should be altered.
I greatly appreciate your time in this.
Sincerely,
Sandy"
We'll see if Mr. Eick bothers to answer me, and if he does, what his answers might be.
Two-Brain