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peter noble
March 20th, 2003, 02:58 PM
How far does the Cylon Empire extend?

If it was really huge, most likely the colonies would have succumbed in less than a thousand years!

And for that matter, how big is the Cylon fleet chasing the Galactica?

Sure they're robots so they don't need food, but the fleet needs to refuel just like the rag-tag fleet.

And is the Imperious Leader travelling with ther Cylon fleet or is it still on Cylon?

A solution would be (and it'd make a cool visual) is to rip the planet Cylon out of orbit so it becomes a huge baseship. The planet's resources could fuel its journey through space on its mission to purge the universe of humankind!

Regards,

Peter

kingfish
March 20th, 2003, 03:02 PM
The Cylon Empire is vast. There is always an Imperious Leader based on the planet to take over if a leader is killed. The planet is swamplike and the Imperious leader usually bathes to avoid being reminded of where it came from.

vmnjn
March 20th, 2003, 03:53 PM
The Cylon Empire/Alliance is described as a "vast" domain. There has never been any episodic material describing the actual number of worlds and systems it contains.

The survival of humanity is usually attributed to colonial "unpredictability" and skill. Similar to a quality versus quantity contest, despite the more advanced nature of some Cylon technology.

The size of the fleet pursuing the Galactica is usually described or hinted at being three Basestars in size.

The Imperious Leader is sometimes on Cylon and sometimes travels in his own Basestar.

Whether the planet Cylon is an orbital or floater has never been brought up in the series. I don't think...

KJ
March 20th, 2003, 08:03 PM
When Universal gets round to reviving the show we will find out? Based on the original series Peter, there is no way to answer that question really! Although i'm pretty sure somewhere i read, the original "Reptillian Cylons" conquered hundreds of worlds and areas of space before they fell.(This may have been in the Realm Press Comics?) Sounds like too much too soon by it's not canon though.

I do like the fact the "War of the Gods" episode opened the possibility of more powerful being than the Cylons! So regardless of their "Vast" empire had the series gone on, i'm sure we could have seen the scale of the Cylon Empire/Alliance or other races equally as powerful.

KJ

Belloby
March 25th, 2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by kingfish
The Cylon Empire is vast. There is always an Imperious Leader based on the planet to take over if a leader is killed. The planet is swamplike and the Imperious leader usually bathes to avoid being reminded of where it came from.

I don't know where Kingfish got his information, but it was never on any episode of Battlestar Galactica I've ever seen.

According to the episodes, we have no idea how far the Cylon Empire extends. We also have no idea where the Imperious Leader rules the Empire from. He does travel in a basestar on occasion, but that is it.

Again, according to most episodes, small outposts are run by IL Series Droids (like Lucifer) and they report to even higher up IL series droids...who eventually report to the Imperious Leader.

Whether the Cylons are actually reptilian or purely machine has always been up for debate because of conflicts between the novelization and what was said on the actual series.

I hope this helps.

kingfish
March 25th, 2003, 12:21 PM
Welcome Belloby. I read about The Imperious Leader in Battlestar Galactica:Warhawk by Richard Hatch.

Paul

Belloby
March 25th, 2003, 12:30 PM
Thanks Kingfish.

While I love Richard, I don't consider that part of the history of Battlestar Galactica. Only the stuff that's been filmed is what I go by.

kingfish
March 25th, 2003, 12:33 PM
Sadly to say there isn't much. In season 2 there were going to be some changes to the show such as Sheba dying, a Pegasus full of duplicate androids, and Athena being recast.

Philloz
March 25th, 2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Belloby
According to the episodes, we have no idea how far the Cylon Empire extends. We also have no idea where the Imperious Leader rules the Empire from. He does travel in a basestar on occasion, but that is it.

If you count G80, the Cylon Empire's rule stretches from the Cyrannus (SP?) Galaxy to our own ... however far THAT is. NOT counting G80, the Galacticans seemed to think they left the Cylons far behind when they encountered a lone base star in "Hand of God," which was at least one galaxy away from their home (not that they ever seemed to get distances straight on the show).


It's inferred by the early episodes that there is a Cylon homeworld called simply Cylon, but we never saw Imperious Leader there ... he was only was seen brooding on his base star except for his final appearence at Gamoray in "The Living Legend."

Belloby
March 26th, 2003, 10:38 AM
If they Cylon Empire extended to our galaxy/solar system, how come the Cylons did not exterminate us? Did they not say they would not rest until every human was put to death?

kingfish
March 26th, 2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Belloby
If they Cylon Empire extended to our galaxy/solar system, how come the Cylons did not exterminate us? Did they not say they would not rest until every human was put to death?


Suppossedly Dr Zee's plan was to lead the Cylons away from Earth. It was even suggested that D(The Daggits) Squadron was created for just that purpose.

Philloz
March 26th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by kingfish



Suppossedly Dr Zee's plan was to lead the Cylons away from Earth. It was even suggested that D(The Daggits) Squadron was created for just that purpose.


That's correct. Dr Zee knew that the fleet was being shadowed by the Cylons (though how he knew was never explained) and suggested veering the fleet in another direction to lure the Cylons away. In "The Night The Cylons Landed," an advanced Cylon scoutship was disabled by a kamikazee Viper pilot and found its way to Earth,. A humanoid Cylon and a Cylon Centurian survived, but since the ship and her communications system was destroyed, they attempted to use a commercial microwave transmitter to contact the Cylon forces. They were stopped in the nick of time by Troy and Dillon.

kingfish
March 26th, 2003, 02:15 PM
This is the episode in which Capt Dante and D Squadron(the daggits) are mentioned.

Belloby
March 26th, 2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by kingfish
This is the episode in which Capt Dante and D Squadron(the daggits) are mentioned.


You actually consider 1980 part of Battlestar Galactica???!:eek:

kingfish
March 26th, 2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Belloby



You actually consider 1980 part of Battlestar Galactica???!:eek:


Compared to what we may get Galactica 1980 is beginning to look beter and better.:) :warrior:

Belloby
March 27th, 2003, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by kingfish



Compared to what we may get Galactica 1980 is beginning to look beter and better.:) :warrior:

You know what, I can't disagree with you there! :thumbsup: