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thomas7g
March 13th, 2003, 07:27 PM
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/531/320314/14
From: michaelfaries
For bsgviperman:
And it's still on. Right now, some folks are actually heading to Canada per that schedule.
"Change" is the operative word here. How they change remains to be seen. I'm wondering if those changes will be done in time, or (for example) if some scenes will be filmed while others are reshuffled in the shooting schedule *as things change*.
So far, I'm "happy happy joy joy" over the "change" I'm seeing. It's not 100% pure bliss, but it's happiness to me right now. And I may yet grow even happier at what I'm hearing. You and I know that ultimate happiness would be Richard Hatch running the production; that is NOT the case. As a fan, though, the happiness comes from changes that are afoot. And I still believe both original series fans and pro-Moore fans will find some happiness in the mix. What's planned won't destroy the original series, as I'm understanding, unlike the complete replacement which the remake was going to do.
I'm not delving any further into this right now. There's too much going on... and some people aren't happy with the "changes." You literally have no clue how pissed off some folks are, nor what I'm risking by saying even these VERY vague things.
Then again, the original fans were pissed off when the remake news broke on April 2, 2002. ;)~
Michael
Good news it seems :D
michaelfaries
March 14th, 2003, 11:52 AM
I'm DEFINITELY still dancing. :) Of course, someone could change the dance music today (Friday), but I doubt it'll happen.
It's good news indeed. "Great" news would constitute a continuation with Richard's, Dirk's, Anne's, Herb's, (and other original cast members') involvement in a project which wholly honors the Original series. But I'll classify this as good news. It's a step in the right direction for fans of the Original "Battlestar Galactica."
It's a step-by-step process. Things will happen in a series of progressions which aren't plainly obvious to the public. In fact, there will be some debates over what's happening -- plus some misinterpretations, since not all the facts or information may be evident from the outset of these new developments. There may be future developments in the few months ahead, too, which create additional happiness.
Questions to ask yourselves privately: Could you somehow preserve the integrity of the original series by extending the overall story, or do you scrap it entirely with a remake/re-imagining (with vague homages to the original series)? Can some things change and still keep the original fan base happy? What constitutes acceptable change(s)?
All will be revealed in due time. And hopefully, not by me, but by those involved. And, yes, many of the parties involved on both sides of the fence are reading this. I believe some of those folks are looking (metaphorically) for blood. You're not getting the current Ronald D. Moore script, folks. But if you're a fan of Mr. Moore's, don't fret. He's not gone. But there some new folks minding the store and the store's inventory, though. There's even a major inventory review underway. I'll stop with that.
I do wonder when the sci fi web site BG pages will, ahem, change. ;) Ouch! Did I say that??
Ever smiling,
Michael
:colwar:
michaelfaries
March 14th, 2003, 11:56 AM
By the way, as a disclaimer: None of this is a build-up to the annual April Fools Day pranks which I do on the BG web sites. What's happening at Universal is serious. And it's no joking matter. Based on the sensitivity of current developments, I may elect not to do a major April 1st shindig this year.
Someone at scifi.com's BG bboard accused me of this. That's why I'm posting the disclaimer.
Michael
:colwar:
jewels
March 14th, 2003, 01:12 PM
IF you do an April 1 silliness, please PM me 1st: I would be one of those gullable ones freaking out otherwise, LOL. ;)
GalacticanCajun
March 14th, 2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by michaelfaries
By the way, as a disclaimer: None of this is a build-up to the annual April Fools Day pranks which I do on the BG web sites. What's happening at Universal is serious. And it's no joking matter. Based on the sensitivity of current developments, I may elect not to do a major April 1st shindig this year.
Someone at scifi.com's BG bboard accused me of this. That's why I'm posting the disclaimer.
Michael
:colwar:
I am one of the gullible ones too:D
crash4587
March 14th, 2003, 01:33 PM
after last year's events, I gave it up. Now I'm just stuck in a Galacticaless void!
AlternityOrange
March 14th, 2003, 01:34 PM
Jeez Michael, you sure you want to do an April Fool's joke this year? Last year's joke seemed to really anger the gods. They sure smited us hard on April 2nd.
Ravishol
March 14th, 2003, 01:52 PM
They cleared the board at SciFi, has anyone seen this over at SciFi?
MartainHighCouncil
Dear fans of Battlestar Galactica,
Many of you are worried that the current production is in trouble. Those rumours are completely false and instigated by those who have their own self interest at heart. I would like to report that all is well in Mars and a major announcement will be made early next week. The production is still on schedule and will start filming on March 24, 2003. Do not let those who have no interest for the fan create a false sense of failure in the production. Keep your eyes open and the good news will be posted for all to see in time. Your wait and hopes of a revival of Battlestar Galactica has become reality and we, the Martians, have always had you, the fan, as our source of inspiration.
-David
Can anyone comment?
peter noble
March 14th, 2003, 02:06 PM
Methinks they've gone into panic mode!
Talk about rewriting history!
Peter
michaelfaries
March 14th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by AlternityOrange
Jeez Michael, you sure you want to do an April Fool's joke this year? Last year's joke seemed to really anger the gods. They sure smited us hard on April 2nd.
LOL! Damn, so true in a twisted sort of way.
And we thought they had a sense of humor, too. The joke was on us then. How the Mighty have fallen. And hard.
Michael
:colwar:
michaelfaries
March 14th, 2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Ravishol
Can anyone comment?
If this is "damage control" for today's meeting(s), which I don't have specifics on, then I'm really curious how things are going. Maybe there's a change of tune on current happenings; I don't know.
Note: The "production" isn't in trouble. Heck, it is happening. No worries there. It's *how* it's proceeding -- and what changes are pending. Ask the new scriptwriters.
I'll remind everyone: There's a difference between what's happening at Universal and at SCI-FI. It all depends on your point of view. 'Nuff said.
Michael
:colwar:
Artemis
March 14th, 2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by michaelfaries
Ask the new scriptwriters.
Those few words speak volumes about the amount of changes afoot. :cool:
oldwardaggit
March 14th, 2003, 03:51 PM
So we are their source of inspiration. When did this happen? he he he
:confused:
I think Michael's April fools joke last year was their source of inspiration. lol
I should take that back because I don’t want to anger the gods either. Especially if Michael is smiling.
But if things have changed and we are now their source, then I will let the Whole Re-imagined remake thing be water under the bridge.
My Grandmother use to tell me that some people carry anger around long after the need for it has passed and all it does is hold you back from living your life to the fullest because anger is the heaviest thing you could ever carry.
She was a very wise lady.
Now it's back to being crazy.
OWD
michaelfaries
March 14th, 2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by oldwardaggit
So we are their source of inspiration. When did this happen? he he he
:confused:
I think Michael's April fools joke last year was their source of inspiration. lol
I should take that back because I don’t want to anger the gods either.
I liked my DVD box set cover (the homage to Frank Frazetta) and all of that content goodness to pour over. Besides, where else would we see "The censored scenes with the Ovions consuming humans" or "Public apology/short documentary: 'Galactica: 1980: What went terribly wrong.'" (Apologies to Steve on the last one.)
http://www.battlestarpegasus.com/af/af2002.html
hehe :devil:
Oh, sorry... :halo: I forget: I'm not the one who sold their soul to Count Iblis over this BG chaos.
Michael
:colwar:
michaelfaries
March 14th, 2003, 04:17 PM
re: the April 1st DVD prank last year. Let's not forget "Special Edition Visual Effects director 'Warrior'" (plus the comments of "ssgw")
Cheers, Darrell and Steve. :thumbsup:
M.
:colwar:
jewels
March 14th, 2003, 06:16 PM
I like the "Maren Jenson interview not finalized" note. Wonder if she will ever be heard from again.
Geez, when you all do an April Fools thing it's an elaborate affair!!
jewels
March 14th, 2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Ravishol
They cleared the board at SciFi, has anyone seen this over at SciFi?
MartainHighCouncil
...Your wait and hopes of a revival of Battlestar Galactica has become reality and we, the Martians, have always had you, the fan, as our source of inspiration.
There's a couple of ways that could be read. But. Things happened the last time MHC tried direct communication, maybe not immediately but things began happening.... the PR and disinformation cranked up a bit as I recall. And Michael smiled through most of that too. Could be someone fluffing their feathers, could be impending doom with the Galactica we know rising like a Phoenix from the ashes of that RDM script.
Watching. Waiting.... They better blooming announce something early next week that has substance after that communique or we'll all know they are just blowing snow!! ...Still Hoping.
Jewels
LucianG
March 14th, 2003, 07:43 PM
One thing about clearing the board at SciFi, they did archive the old posts, though you have to access them from the main SciFi board rather than the link they have listed at the top of the "new" Battlestar Galactica Board.
http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/3315
The other thing is that there is now plenty of room for us to speak out for a continuation! Everyone, please get over there and post for a continuation as soon as you can. Let's show them that we are serious and that we are not rolling over and giving up as they would like for us to do. Anyone up for a spontaneous mini-post-athon?
oldwardaggit
March 14th, 2003, 07:57 PM
Michael I thought that I would be a smart a$$ about a year ago and I put Galactica Gossip in my Goggle search just to see if others would be saying something on another board. The first thing that came up, was one of your April fools day jokes and for most of it, I was saying how can this be. It had me until close to the end. Then at the end, it reveled that it was just an April fools day joke, so I thought that you would like to know that an old trick was still tricking.
I spent the last year wishing that some one would step forward and proclaim the new Galactica script as a belated April fools day joke.
Let’s hope that’s all water under the bridge.
OWD
oldwardaggit
March 14th, 2003, 07:59 PM
LucianG , You speak the truth.
OWD
Muffit
March 14th, 2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by GalacticanCajun
I am one of the gullible ones too:D
Welcome to Colonial Fleets, GalacticanCajun!!!
:muffit:
thomas7g
March 14th, 2003, 10:10 PM
Glad, very glad to hear so much good news!!!
I myself would really love to see the old cast united, but I can still enjoy a good changed BG as long as the important relationship and "feel" of BG stays intact.
You would have to keep the MelGibson-Danny Glover like interaction of Apollo and Starbuck. No sex changes. (that really was offensive) And The core characters maintaining a sense of dear family. And the Galactica must be the same old Galactica, not some new fangled B5 submarine like thing. And keep the warrior jackets. And NO sluttly cylons!!!!!
I think alot of the problem was Bonnie Hammer bringing over her personal style into the storywriting department. She is a great marketing genius. She knows how to put together a killer advertising campaign. But when she starts dictating STORY,.. she is very fallible to put it mildly. Lexx...Crossing Over with John Edwards...The DreamTeam... all were HORRIBLE ideas. All were created with Hammer's stamp of approval.
We need to get back to basics with this project. Back to what people liked about the original Galactica.
Micheleh
March 14th, 2003, 10:26 PM
"Glad, very glad to hear so much good news!!!"
What good news?!? All I see in this thread is vague allusion to unspecified change. I'm supposed to go 'hurrah' over that?
Someone throw me a bone, here!
GalacticanCajun
March 15th, 2003, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Muffit
Welcome to Colonial Fleets, GalacticanCajun!!!
:muffit:
Glad to be here. I have been a Galactica fan since the first episode.
KJ
March 15th, 2003, 06:23 AM
Not to spoil your April fool's fun coming up soon and all. But isn't the fact WHEN it comes it suppose to take you all by surprise? last 2 years worth of April fool jokes by BattlestarGalactica.com/Pegasus to my knowledge being very good (like the animation one afew years back) although last years Galactica DVD prank was too telling and forced to be effective. Considering the history of constant put off's Universal has given the Galactica sets for the past few years.
No matter how witty the prank it won't work now?! April fool's only works when the person or persons is unaware of "April's Fool's Day!" It's like your asking lightning to strike several times in the same place!. But since i loved the fake DVD boxset image of last year along with all the requested extras and faked "Special Edition" pictures, might as well surprise us again this year.
Long as it's a very witty prank!
KJ
Stevew
March 15th, 2003, 07:56 AM
Fooled me LOL
I had forgotten about those, they are really great
S:)
jewels
March 15th, 2003, 12:43 PM
Cool images, Warrior (and other responsible parties if there were any!)
peter noble
March 15th, 2003, 02:01 PM
God, someone found all that cut footage from Galactica 1980! ;)
Peter
captmiloman
March 15th, 2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Warrior
...what... you folks mean to tell me *this* (http://www.3dgladiators.com/exclusive/exclusive-af.html) fooled some of you? :D That's just some buddies and I taking our toys out for a joyride. LOL
kingfish
March 18th, 2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by michaelfaries
By the way, as a disclaimer: None of this is a build-up to the annual April Fools Day pranks which I do on the BG web sites. What's happening at Universal is serious. And it's no joking matter. Based on the sensitivity of current developments, I may elect not to do a major April 1st shindig this year.
Someone at scifi.com's BG bboard accused me of this. That's why I'm posting the disclaimer.
Michael
:colwar:
I was last years fool who fell for the Special edition DVD news. I probably will stay away from the website this year so I am not the Potsie Webber of the forum.:D
michaelfaries
March 18th, 2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by kingfish
I was last years fool who fell for the Special edition DVD news. I probably will stay away from the website this year so I am not the Potsie Webber of the forum.:D
I've decided to proceed with an April Fools Day prank this year which isn't as intricate as prior ones. I think it's both tasteful and silly, though. Tuesday, April 1st is the day.
Michael
:colwar:
kingfish
March 18th, 2003, 02:11 PM
:jestor: Better polish my crown.
:D
captmiloman
March 18th, 2003, 09:34 PM
I'm avoiding the internet and keeping the radio off that day. Although, I'd have a field day if I had a radio airshift.
dvo47p
March 19th, 2003, 10:18 AM
it probably is.
Even so if it is only good news not GREAT news, those evil PTB @ Scifi are not to be trusted. They lie like rugs, maybe this 'good' news is disinformation?
Originally posted by michaelfaries
It's good news indeed. "Great" news would constitute a continuation with Richard's, Dirk's, Anne's, Herb's, (and other original cast members') involvement in a project which wholly honors the Original series. But I'll classify this as good news. It's a step in the right direction for fans of the Original "Battlestar Galactica."
I do wonder when the sci fi web site BG pages will, ahem, change. ;) Ouch! Did I say that??
Ever smiling,Michael:colwar:
Ps. This website http://www.scifi.com/battlestar was used in ads during 'The Children of Dune'
The ever cynical, dvo47p
jewels
March 19th, 2003, 10:33 AM
dvo,
hang in. The winds of change may blow swiftly. Diller just resigned today. Hopefully this won't negatively impact whatever michael is smiling about.
*thinks not*, *thinks about places that have listened to fans before, the success it brought them and smiles more*
Perhaps this year we found our own little Sci-fi empire. Our Universe is boundless...
kingfish
March 19th, 2003, 11:54 AM
"I would like to think that there are always possibilities."-James T Kirk.
repcisg
March 19th, 2003, 12:34 PM
The possibilities for disaster are endless.
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 02:03 PM
Thinking aloud: I'm wondering if there will be more mud-slinging in the next week as some things come to a head. Some folks have visions of what can be (or what was), despite what will be. And (ahem) some folks have more time on their hands, given recent events, than others who are hard at work on a certain show. (Or is that shows? ;) )
It's cryptic, but it has to be. Some folks are very unhappy with developments. Don't pity them, though. They sure as heck didn't give a damn about us, the fans of the Original "Battlestar Galactica" series.
Some folks want to throw wrenches into the works in a last ditch effort. Some will try. I don't believe it'll succeed. But desperate people do desperate things.
Btw: Something less cryptic: Mr. Diller's departure from Vivendi Universal has stirred various speculations here and elsewhere. There's also some concern that the (ahem) possible departure of certain folks (some of whom are rather stubborn) would be seen as negative, not helpful, to current developments. Somehow, I don't think it's completely negative. After all, when you do house-cleaning, you do have to empty the trash at some point. (That excludes Mr. Diller.)
Whatever announcements get made in the next couple of weeks will be truly interesting to read. Change is a constant, even now.
Michael
:colwar:
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 02:40 PM
For Stallion_Cornell: Someone wants to jump into the hot tub which you mention in your story. In fact, they want to turn the heat back up. The sad part: The party already ended for them weeks ago. And the beer they brought doesn't taste any different because they think a new label can be slapped on it and bragged as the next best thing. In fact, it's been flat and tasteless for a while now. And some folks are really, really tired of the same bad brew being brought to the party each time.
And the towel they brought for hot tubbing: Cold, wet and used.
Michael
:colwar:
kingfish
March 19th, 2003, 02:47 PM
He likes business ventures. I always wondered if he would look to expand his media empire since he isn't involved with Time-Warner anymore.
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 02:52 PM
By the way, I'm looking forward to sitting down and simply watching. We've seen so many changes, so many rumors and so many possibilities over the past few years. So many ups and downs, too.
The bottom line: I'm a fan. I'm a viewer. It's time to get it going.
Michael
:colwar:
peter noble
March 19th, 2003, 02:55 PM
What my honourable friend said above. In spades!
Peter
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by kingfish
He likes business ventures. I always wondered if he would look to expand his media empire since he isn't involved with Time-Warner anymore.
Financially, I doubt it. He lost too much $$ at AOLTimeWarner. When he left, I think he talked about wanting to buy back CNN... and lacked the funds. You're right, Paul: He definitely likes business ventures.
Does anyone know who's slated to replace Mr. Diller at VU? (That's for another discussion thread.)
Michael
:colwar:
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by peter noble
What my honourable friend said above. In spades!
Peter
Ditto, fellow honorable friend. :colwar:
Michael
:colwar:
kingfish
March 19th, 2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by michaelfaries
Financially, I doubt it. He lost too much $$ at AOLTimeWarner. When he left, I think he talked about wanting to buy back CNN... and lacked the funds. You're right, Paul: He definitely likes business ventures.
Does anyone know who's slated to replace Mr. Diller at VU? (That's for another discussion thread.)
Michael
:colwar:
I know I am taking this a bit off topic but I believe it was Time-Warner that made him dump WCW and as a result Vince McMahon bought it.
Sept17th
March 19th, 2003, 03:37 PM
I don't know if I'm comfortable sitting back on my hands if "some people" are about to get desperate?
:cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon:
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 03:58 PM
I'd take a "wait and see" approach for now.
Michael
:colwar:
the3rdhuman
March 19th, 2003, 04:21 PM
I have to admit that I have not religously watched a weekly TV show (series) for nearly 10 years. It would be great if Galactica were the show to break that streak. I'm hoping things shape up with the production to the point where I can watch it with my kids too. That's two more added to the fan force!
Matt
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 05:03 PM
Good Lord, a new wrench has been tossed into the machinery. A big one at that. More decisions are being made which threaten the "HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!" which I alluded to. (I don't feel the wrench information is being leaked to derail our hopes.)
Well, folks, if you're the praying sort, start praying. There's a difference between saving face within the Hollywood environment and doing the right thing (at least in my opinion) and staying with the new decisions.
This newly-flung wrench has jammed the normal operations of the machinery since it was recently cleaned and retuned. Some people are being given a chance again; the McDonnell and Olmos casting decisions (and ONLY those casting decisions) are the leveraging points to avoid massive changes which were otherwise planned.
To some, "cleaning house" and "adding new furniture" would look really, really bad right now. Others don't agree and think it's past due to bite the bullet and get on with it. (I agree with the latter.)
Do you save face and return to the old format? Do you retool a few things and pray it'll work?
Or do you proceed forward with sweeping changes?
Yet more decisions are coming down the pike. The landscape just changed again. Methinks it's time to take another vacation until the official news is actually released. This is a see-saw ride of epic proportions involving ego, arrogance and pride. Not all is lost yet, including my hope about the potential outcome of upcoming decisions.
This week and next: More decisions making. Hopefully no delays on the probable April announcements.
All of this boggles the mind...
Michael
:colwar:
kingfish
March 19th, 2003, 05:09 PM
This WWII saying seems to apply to Galactica. Enough said.
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 05:12 PM
This HAS TO BE the LAST time this felgercarb happens. I'm so sick of this.
Michael
:colwar:
kingfish
March 19th, 2003, 05:14 PM
Peter Nobel started a thread titled TV shows you would like to see come back in which the question was posed.
Paul
michaelfaries
March 19th, 2003, 05:16 PM
Thanks, Paul. I'll check it out.
Michael
:colwar:
Iknowweather66
March 19th, 2003, 05:31 PM
I'd like to start throwing wrenches at the wrench throwers, if you can provide us with any more info....
Iknowweather66
March 19th, 2003, 05:40 PM
Now that Diller is gone, could Bonnie Hammer feel that some of the heat is off? Whoever is taking Diller's place may need some time to come up to speed on current events, time that someone could take advantage of.
newt
March 19th, 2003, 05:43 PM
I hope so......
Micheleh
March 19th, 2003, 05:50 PM
I doubt it. Michael would never joke about something serious.
Muffit
March 19th, 2003, 06:01 PM
Michael, all my hopes are resting on this possible Joy Joy. There are so many reasons to get sad and disheartened in life, I always grab onto whatever is happiest and encouraging. Please let there be good news, a moment of kindness and youth-rekindled in this life would do wonders for my spirit...
:muffit:
Sept17th
March 19th, 2003, 06:26 PM
Michael,
Hey not I'm trying to be a smart a$$ but should we still wait and see?
Please let me know when YOU think the keyboards should be fired up again.
Thanks...still gonna keep my chin up.
:cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon: :cylon:
Iknowweather66
March 19th, 2003, 06:33 PM
Your recent post here is starting another firestorm, Damage control, please... Which way do we run? Don't think the fans can do do nothing. It's obvious that the the pro Moore fans think they can do something. We need a target, even if it is just to vent at. Otherwise, I'm afraid a lot of ill will could raise its ugly head again.
LordStarFyre
March 19th, 2003, 06:59 PM
I for one am trying VERY hard not to Let my instincts take the best of me, and unload my verbal weapon on a few choice Moore Fans.
May the Lords help me succeed in that task...
michaelfaries
March 20th, 2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by viperman
Your recent post here is starting another firestorm, Damage control, please... Which way do we run? Don't think the fans can do do nothing. It's obvious that the the pro Moore fans think they can do something. We need a target, even if it is just to vent at. Otherwise, I'm afraid a lot of ill will could raise its ugly head again.
Understood.
I was talking with some people tonight about recent events; some of you might call them insiders. Anyways, one of the items I heard about today was that Universal changed it's mind again and sanctioned the remake/re-imagining. The previous changes would be dropped; things would "return as they once were."
The item further mentioned it would have been too embarassing to lose two "major" stars with Oscar credentials (who made headlines in The Hollywood Reporter, as one example), plus the producer, plus the script. In a move to save face, Universal dumped all of their changes en masse. Essentially the remake scored the luckiest reversal ever and won the game.
Not so fast.
There have been a LOT of things set into motion in the past couple of months, particularly this month. Some folks have discovered they didn't wield the power they thought they did. In fact, even when the writing was on the wall, they didn't take full notice. They might feel they're being treated worse than prior production teams as some things were stripped away from them; I don't know.
Some people are petty, spiteful and vindictive when they don't get their way. They're not going away without causing some problems and pain. I've mentioned leaks and how there may be targeted leakage to disrupt, misinform and even trace where the leakage comes from; Two-Brained (Sandy) has mentioned similar things. We know there are folks who were given information by the production to make established fans look bad. (Whatever. If people want to act cowardly and can't interface and speak for themselves, a la jms, to set things straight, that's their problem, not ours. We're only trying to figure out what is happening with developments as we wait... and wait... and wait...)
There were various inconsistencies since getting today's newly supplied "new wrench thrown into the works" rumor and "It's over" rumor (which I mention above) and what some insiders are aware of. I think some folks are playing dirty to cause some pain and anguish. (For example: Imagine if your script was taken away and being redone by someone else -- making it a shell of it's former self. You'd be unhappy.) They suddenly weren't getting their way; they fought for things recently; they involved some of the actors to help them save things; and now they may have another chance.
You may be interested to know:
1.) Some folks are reading these posts and could take the time to diplomatically interface with fans directly and publicly -- and don't. (Let's not forget: They want others to say things for them, to remove any potential liability. Yet some of them may be here and won't say a word themselves as themselves.)
2.) Some folks are desperately trying to save their prior work -- even their involvement.
3.) Some folks don't wield the power they once did, but want you to think they still do.
4.) Some folks are hellbent on provoking fans, including myself, to make comments which skewer ourselves. They're hurting, so they want us to hurt, too. I know I'm being provoked to say things; look at this posting as one example.
5.) Some folks are being told to get connected better with the fans. I think they're waiting until after the first rounds of April announcements before doing this.
So, I'm not giving the new rumor ("It's Over") any credibility yet. And I'm giving my prior "wrench in the works" posting a lower confidence rating. There are far too many examples cited by my contacts which speak to the contrary. I'm not the one who's praying that minor script rewrites which are being turned in any day now will save (your) ass, and not realizing that (they) need to make a decision on (your) ongoing involvement which won't be too significant anyways.
Is is personal? Nah. But some other folks have made it personal themselves.
I expect to see more disinformation and provokings released, all of which try to elicit responses. Some folks are going to push buttons to get responses like this one, hoping for too much information divulging or shooting one's self in the proverbial foot. Some folks want to make others look bad; some folks also want to see what we know. (Yes, I know you're reading this.) I think I'll wait for the official announcements to see what the final results are.
- If you want to sign the SCI-FI Channel/Studios USA Boycott petition, please do so.
- Send snail mail letters to Universal directly, c/o BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.
- Keep your dignity in the face of those who seek to unsettle, rattle and create upset with individuals.
Michael
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michaelfaries
March 20th, 2003, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Micheleh
I doubt it. Michael would never joke about something serious.
That's me: Mr. Intense. Mr. Serious.
I kid you not. (har-har)
Couldn't resist, especially at this late hour. God, I need a vacation break...
Michael
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michaelfaries
March 20th, 2003, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by newt
I hope so......
You might have missed an earlier posting by me: April Fools Day pranks only apply to April 1st. I'll proceed with one again this year, but it won't be as intricate as prior ones.
On that note: Even Tom DeSanto had a great sense of humor, participating an item to the prank from a couple of years ago. ("The continuation of G1980" prank. hehe. See: http://www.battlestargalactica.com/af/af2001.html )
Michael
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michaelfaries
March 20th, 2003, 01:10 AM
I should add: With regards to the Boycott petition, fans of "Farscape" have issues with SCI-FI's abandonment/cancellation of the series. The boycott applies to that fanbase, too.
The boycott isn't solely about the BG remake. At least, that's my personal take.
Michael
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peter noble
March 20th, 2003, 02:19 AM
Well you got bed, and then the next morning all hell's broken loose!
Whatever happens, I think we'll be vindicated!
Just remember: Payback's a bitch! :)
Peter
Apothis
March 20th, 2003, 03:40 AM
She is apparently the beginning of the flood of optimisim on Milton's board and I was wondering if she could be pulling their leg?
siress13
Siress
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Reply Re: Thank you Siress13
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I thankyou all of you for creating an atmosphere worth being a part of.
Now for some news. I recieved an answer from David Eick after asking some questions on the new scifi site.
He tells me that Michael Faries is spreading alot of bull.
The production is going just as planned and doing well.
Thankyou again and I hope more of you will e-mail Mr.Eick.
We certainly will learn more from contact with him than on the scifi forum and all the agenda & drama there.
newt
March 20th, 2003, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by michaelfaries
You might have missed an earlier posting by me: April Fools Day pranks only apply to April 1st. I'll proceed with one again this year, but it won't be as intricate as prior ones.
Nah, I knew that, but given the significance of April 2nd, I thought you may try to catch us off guard by starting early:walmart:
jewels
March 20th, 2003, 06:01 AM
Methinks the Siress will get a fast lesson in what it is to be used as a PR mouthpiece (unpaid). (PR = Paid Restyling of Reality, apologies to anyone in the profession but you know what I mean too well.)
Every other time since Dec. they've fought this hard it moved the ball closer to our direction. Desperation does strange things. We can always flood Mr. Eick with email: but be courteous if you choose to do that. I like the just write Battlestar Galactica at Universal option Michael mentioned. (Touched by an Angel ran 8 seasons, I believe 5 or 6 yrs. as a top 10 show, because of a snail mail campaign at the end of season 1 and a producer (Martha Williamson) who like JMS, stood their ground HARD).
And Michael: I hope you remember that thing I told you a while back about darkness, what it sometimes really is. There still can be something amazing coming. Its just more than we could handle to see completely as it progresses. But when it is passed and the news released: we'll see if I am right or not.
I say we keep that truck & keep loading crates of ambrosia. Call it a leap of faith if you must. I think we will get to make that delivery or deliveries. 'Cause they're fighting too hard again.
Jewels
kingfish
March 20th, 2003, 06:02 AM
That is the question. I can't see them filming the show when not all of the major roles have been cast. It would cost double the money to have to film extra scenes and insert them in because the studio would have to pay for traveling arrangements for the actors who missed there scenes due to the fact they hadn't been cast. So far all they have cast is:
William Husker Adama.
Laura Roslin.
Kara Starbuck Thrace.
Lee Apollo Adama.
Uncast:
Paul Tigh.
Geius Baltar.
Billy.
Number Six.
Sharon Boomer Varelli.
dah66
March 20th, 2003, 06:37 AM
Universal wants so "save face" by moving forward with the remake. Why should a business decision being reworked cause embarrassment? Look at what's happening with Superman over at Warner Brothers. Deals fall apart all the time. It's the nature of the business.
Business is the key word here. Obviously, Universal must have some trepidation about the remake or they would not be exploring other options. There must be executives at Universal that see the business sense in preserving the original mythology. These are the people that need our support. The best show of support is letters.
Damn. I am so sick of buying stamps.
:)
Dave
peter noble
March 20th, 2003, 08:07 AM
This could be a load of spin doctoring on someone's part. I do think the time for writing letters is over, if they haven't realised by now, the current TPTB are never going to get it.
This could all be the final dying gasp of a neutered production team.
Or it could be the truth.
Whatever. We will know on Monday or the week after.
If it is bad news, I think we will have the last laugh.
Also remember, in the next few months, Universal and the Sci-Fi Channel will most likely be entirely different entities to the ones we know now. As regards the Battlestar Galactica property it could be a whole new ball game.
Remember there ARE good folks still working at Universal who recognise the value of the franchise.
And there are folks here and there who entering the industry who are fans of the original and who could be in positions of power one day.
A few years from now we could see a BSG production that although not a continuation, would follow the spirit and intention of the original far more closely than the RDM travesty.
Just my two cents.
Peter
Micheleh
March 20th, 2003, 08:11 AM
Has Universal given it an official stamp *yet*? If not, they're probably blowing smoke again.
michaelfaries
March 20th, 2003, 11:39 AM
Michelle, I think you're right-on-the-mark: They haven't. Not publicly at least.
Michael
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the3rdhuman
March 20th, 2003, 12:01 PM
Michael, I'm almost afraid to read your posts with the apparent turn of events.
Trying to keep the faith
jewels
March 21st, 2003, 02:55 PM
Allegedly there is going to be some casting news next week according to some posts on Milty's board, their source is email they've been getting back from the askdavideick email addy off the scifi BSG2003 site.
It's funny but they all talk about the emails but won't post them because Eick slammed our Michael in some of them. Gee, the fans on Milty's board have more class than Mr. Eick or whoever is doing his email responses.
Still keeping the faith. Still holding to the harder the propaganda war is fought, the more someone is losing their grip and the closer Galactica is to her former glory and more. BSG doesn't need "almost Oscar winners" we need a cast who's good at their craft that is committed to OUR show's vision. What I wouldn't give to tell Ms. McDonnell and Mr. Olmos our side of this story!
LordStarFyre
March 21st, 2003, 03:07 PM
We can tell Mr. Olmos.
Go to www.edwardjamesolmos.com.
It is the "Official" page, and there is an e-mail contact...
peter noble
March 21st, 2003, 03:17 PM
I don't know if Michael's still dancing, after all he'd be knackered if he'd been dancing since this thread started.
Me I'm doing the Funky Chicken right about now!
Peter
jewels
March 21st, 2003, 03:17 PM
LSF, YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!
kingfish
March 21st, 2003, 03:21 PM
I couldn't dance if my life depended on it. I have two left feet. :D
dvo47p
March 21st, 2003, 06:43 PM
really knows for sure? (If so, I don't know, so if you do send me a HINT!)
I wonder from what has been posted if everyone @ The Scifi Channel is singing from the same songbook, or if some think the Ronald D. Moore remake script strays to far from the TOS, I also wonder if Scifi/Universal has brought in script doctor's? To help keep 'US/those' pesky letter writing fans happy?
I have asked these questions of production people that work for our local WB show Dawson’s Creek. After looking @ the 'gossip' on this & Scifi's forum, that is how I learned what a ‘script doctor/doctor's’ are, go figure. What really got em going was Ron Moore's good reputation & his reaction to his script being 'fine tuned' with him being an executive producer of BSG?
What really got the production folk's interest in Ron D. Moore peaked, was his shot @ Braga & Berman, and the decline of current Star Trek. My Dawson’s Creek & NC Film Commission friends think he maybe angling for a future doing a new Star Trek.
The last movie & UPN's Enterprise ratings are in toilet & Moore was an executive producer of Roswell along with co evecutive producer Jonathan Frakes, so the thinking goes that next Trek movie will be sans Captain Jean-Luc Picard/Patrick Stewart but with Captain Riker/Jonathan Frakes. If Ron D. isn’t called to help out Enterprise, his buddy Frakes might ask him to help out a write/co-produce a new new generation ST:TNG movie.
Movies are much more prestigious & profitable that TV. This is all pure speculation, but some of my WB/NCFC guys &/or gals used to work for ST:TNG & DS9.
Ok some more semi informed speculation by some people that do this for a living, something is amiss with the current BSG production, why not any real definite final word on the current BSG production, you do not hire Mary McDonnell and not use her, she will get paid no matter what, her agent/agency has good lawyers. So it would be folly to piss her off, so something close to her Ron D. Moore character will be on Scifi.
Dawg
March 21st, 2003, 08:34 PM
I read something today on Eonline.com: I did a "Battlestar Galactica" search and came up with a couple of entries from 2001/2002 that talk about reviving BSG (these were the DeSanto days, before he left, apparently, to do "Dangerous Minds").
There was a brief reference to the BSG rights "passing" to StudioUSA from Universal; whether this is actually part of Vivendi/Universal I have no clue, but it was interesting.
dvo, you never cease to amaze me. :) For a cynic, you sure sound hopeful. I can see Ms. McDonnell, though, as a civilian representative (or even President) of the Quorum, at odds with Adama (as much of the Quorum was during the series), with a bit of sexual tension under the surface. I like her work, she's good, and, if it's done right, she could be an asset.
My thoughts on the subject.
I am
Dawg
repcisg
March 22nd, 2003, 09:14 AM
Dawg,
StudioUSA is part of Universal, and is currently for sale as is the SciFi channel. At this time Battlestar Galactica is in SciFi's hands.
dvo47p
March 22nd, 2003, 12:53 PM
Dawg I have been pestering these people for insight for over a year about BSG. (we frequent the same watering holes) Remember they think something like Ron D. Moore's concept of BSG is what we are going to get. Ron D. maybe put out by script doctors, but his name still will be the one listed as the writer.
I like the speculation that Ron D. might be positioning himself along with his buddy Frakes for a shot @ helming Star Trek, it needs help. What it really needs is an entirely new cast, not a remake with the usual suspects & same technobabble & bumpy headed aliens of the week.
Originally posted by Dawg There was a brief reference to the BSG rights "passing" to StudioUSA from Universal; whether this is actually part of Vivendi/Universal I have no clue, but it was interesting.
dvo, you never cease to amaze me. :) For a cynic, you sure sound hopeful. I can see Ms. McDonnell, though, as a civilian representative (or even President) of the Quorum, at odds with Adama (as much of the Quorum was during the series), with a bit of sexual tension under the surface. I like her work, she's good, and, if it's done right, she could be an asset. I am Dawg
Dawg this current show isn’t a continuation, ergo I am not happy.
At http://tv.universalstudios.com they have the Children of Dune listed among Universal’s TV shows, I guess this helps clear up who is in charge of Scifi.
OK, Dawg, Universal TV did BSG the TOS for ABC, I have the BSG 'movie' Saga of a Star War,(the first three episodes) & it has the usual movie Universal logo & stuff. Plus after Universal in Australia announced they were relapsing BSG on DVD lots of fans in the US planned on buying DVD players that could play the OZ region PAL format, then nope they didn't have the best footage & Universal TV plans on releasing BSG & other shows like Magnum PI but I have not heard much since then, I guess if they ever do it Michael will put it on his BSG, site What’s New News, not his ‘What’s New Old News’ site.
I am the perpetually amazing dvo47p!
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