New BG Classic ongoing comic

[peter noble]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/10/10/nycc-abnett-lanning-to-write-battlestar-galactica/

[JLHurley]

Well, it can't be any worse than what's come before it... :)

On a postiive note, Abnett & Lanning have put out some solid comics, so I'm hoping for the best.

[Benedict]

Doesn't look too bad. I'm not a comic reader by and large but original BSG might just change that.

[JLHurley]

A brief interview with DnA can be found here:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=41473

[JLHurley]

Ok, IMO this has gone from good to bad news. They're picking up where the Galactica 1980 comic left off...

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/nycc-2012-dna-battlestar-galactica-interview.html

[JLHurley]

An interview with Andy Lanning:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=41842

[Eric Paddon]

So long as Dynamite holds the rights to do Galactica comics, you can expect nothing but substandard efforts.

[Senmut]

How long, O Lord? How long?????

[JLHurley]

For what it's worth...

The covers and solicitation for BATTLESTAR GALACTICA #1:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=43663

[Reaper]

Classic Battlestar Galactica?? and they mentioned deploying Dr Zee's Experimental Temporal weapon? DR ZEE?????? Already a fail there!

[martok2112]

So long as Dynamite holds the rights to do Galactica comics, you can expect nothing but substandard efforts.

As with any series, show, or storytelling medium that goes into some form of series, writers change out all the time....especially in comic books. Many comic books have enjoyed (or endured) both good writers and bad writers in their runs. Likely the same with Galactica. It could very well have some good writing coming up.

[monolith21]

It isn't a Galactica comic so much as a Galactica 1980 book. I don't understand that company's attraction to something nearly all Galactica fans despise. They should just do a comic version of Superscouts and get it over with.

[Eric Paddon]

As with any series, show, or storytelling medium that goes into some form of series, writers change out all the time....especially in comic books. Many comic books have enjoyed (or endured) both good writers and bad writers in their runs. Likely the same with Galactica. It could very well have some good writing coming up.

The thing is, if you don't start with the right approach and the right template to what a true "classic" Galactica comic should be which is *starting after Hand Of God* and building off from there, then you have basically failed in terms of vision. An ongoing saga of Galactica should take the approach of picking up with the windows of opportunity left by the end of that episode and from that point build a new dimension of storytelling that above all blends in with the episodes that were made so it seems like a natural extension of that universe.

We have seen other projects fail to grasp this. Hatch's novels in particular. The Scalf comic started with the right approach but didn't get a chance to develop itself. Max Press started off on a terrific note but then self-destructed. Dynamite though, has demonstrated time and again that it does not care one whit about the universe of Galactica as it was created and developed over the course of the series. It regards the original as kiddie-fare to be enjoyed by 70s nostalgists and the thing that should know its place compared to the other project. They demonstrated that time and again in the controversies I know you well remember when their aversion to being criticized on this point led them to expel me and several others from their message board. Even though they did eventually come out with a slightly better story that took place after HOG than did their initial, bizarre story set *during* Saga (which could never be squared with traditional Galactica continuity in a million yahrens), it still failed to measure up to the necessary standards of putting characters first and paying attention to how things were set-up. Instead it gave us too much action from start to finish that while entertaining on one level is not how I want to see an official Galactica project develop itself.

Dynamite is going to have to do a lot more than just get better writers to change my view of them. They have to finally demonstrate they "get" what Galactica is really all about.

[Reaper]

This right here!!! All of this!!!


The thing is, if you don't start with the right approach and the right template to what a true "classic" Galactica comic should be which is *starting after Hand Of God* and building off from there, then you have basically failed in terms of vision. An ongoing saga of Galactica should take the approach of picking up with the windows of opportunity left by the end of that episode and from that point build a new dimension of storytelling that above all blends in with the episodes that were made so it seems like a natural extension of that universe.

We have seen other projects fail to grasp this. Hatch's novels in particular. The Scalf comic started with the right approach but didn't get a chance to develop itself. Max Press started off on a terrific note but then self-destructed. Dynamite though, has demonstrated time and again that it does not care one whit about the universe of Galactica as it was created and developed over the course of the series. It regards the original as kiddie-fare to be enjoyed by 70s nostalgists and the thing that should know its place compared to the other project. They demonstrated that time and again in the controversies I know you well remember when their aversion to being criticized on this point led them to expel me and several others from their message board. Even though they did eventually come out with a slightly better story that took place after HOG than did their initial, bizarre story set *during* Saga (which could never be squared with traditional Galactica continuity in a million yahrens), it still failed to measure up to the necessary standards of putting characters first and paying attention to how things were set-up. Instead it gave us too much action from start to finish that while entertaining on one level is not how I want to see an official Galactica project develop itself.

Dynamite is going to have to do a lot more than just get better writers to change my view of them. They have to finally demonstrate they "get" what Galactica is really all about.

[martok2112]

Some folks took their criticisms too far with Dynamite, as they did with Skiffy...some even started getting personal, and that's what started the expulsions, which eventually became a bit more indiscriminate. If more people were thoughtful about their criticisms instead of coming across as "my childhood got raped" fanboys, then at least their voices would still be heard, if not heeded. I'm not saying this to belittle those who love Classic Galactica, and actually have their senses about them...I'm just stating the truth.

That's why I despise fandom. Radical fans are the ones who ruin fandom, by taking things so passionately and so personally that such folk cannot be taken seriously, which filters down to those who actually have the good sense to learn to snap back to real life....and thus, that particular fandom gets a bad name. This goes for either side of the Galactica fandom fence, and for any fandom in general.

I stopped considering myself a fan of anything a long time ago. I don't like the term. I don't like being thought of as a "fanatic". I have my own political reasons for despising the term...and given the way some "fans" act in "defense" of their favorite following, I have little to no reason to make any distinctions. Yes, I go to fan functions like Comic Con, or make "fan films" or "fan fictions" which I prefer to call tributes, but I no longer consider myself a fan of anything. As stated earlier, this is not a slam against those folks who love Classic Galactica, and know how to comport themselves as human beings.

In truth, I haven't followed any Galactica stuff that Dynamite has done for quite a good long while. I already have enough old comics and magazines lying around taking up space, and regardless of the quality of the tales being told by Dynamite, I just don't have any more room. It's certainly not out of a lack of interest.

[Eric Paddon]

There were indeed some "fanatics" at the Dynamite board including one infamous person who no one in their right mind would ever defend. But in my own case, the Dynamite people proved that they possessed very thin skins and given how the guy who was running that site revealed a penchant for not telling the truth on more than one occasion (he was the one who strung a lot of us along by insisting there would never be any story set after HOG unless we got masses of people to sign petitions.....and lo and behold what did we then learn but that story that came next DID take place after HOG!) I think they squandered all their opportunities to come off as reasonable to those of us who simply wanted some *reasonable* objections heard out. These guys had to be shamed into just giving Glen Larson proper credit after they ran their first issue thanking Ron Moore and giving no mention of the guy who actually created the show!

Of course there were extremists in that lot, but frankly it was Dynamite's own actions right out of the box and their condescending attitude about the series in general that brought the whole thing on and I think I did act like a human being in that case in letting them know how perfectly ordinary "fans" felt about that situation, which given the context of what else was happening at the time was perfectly understandable.

[peter noble]

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/116/bsg02covaross.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/bsg02covaross.jpg/)

Cover for issue 2.

[martok2112]

Oh, damn! That is gorgeous! :)

[Punisher454]

Dont know anything about the content, but the cover is nice.

[Jubal]

Huh... didn't see this at my bookstore. Need to see what is going on.

[peter noble]

Huh... didn't see this at my bookstore. Need to see what is going on.
The first issue is next month.

[peter noble]

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8218/comicshopnews13452013gr.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/comicshopnews13452013gr.jpg/)

[Eric Paddon]

Time travel and alternate realities??? For crying out loud this is what did in Max Press years ago when they went all off-kilter after such a promising beginning. Why is it so impossible for these people to just do a nice simple continuation picking up off "Hand Of God" and take things from there???

Sorry for my perpetual cynicism but I just remain dumbfounded by how not a single official Galactica project ever gets it when it comes to entering things with the right mindset.

[Senmut]

Because they aren't content to just enjoy, EP. They always feel that they know, somehow, what it "really needs", and so they play with it. They are like meddling children. We've seen this in GINO, as well as the mangling of the Trek franchise, and numerous other shows on TV.
Another reason both for, and why, the VS Project is so great. One can tell many and varied stories, without playing Picasso with the material.

[peter noble]

Cover to Dynamite's Battlestar Galactica #3.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/374/battlestar3.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/battlestar3.jpg/)

[Punisher454]

Cover #3, really tasteless. I'd expect something like that from MAD magazine.

[peter noble]

Preview: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=16465

[Reaper]

DO the artists even know the Facts of the original Series premiere? Adama with a Goatee? Basestars attacking the Fleet?

It's like all they know is Galactica 1980 and they were told to include certain facts.

[Jubal]

Why is it so impossible for these people to just do a nice simple continuation picking up off "Hand Of God" and take things from there???

There have been some Galactica that to me is done right. To me the Cylons were a element to keep the fleet moving from time to time. Actually I liked the aspect that as they got further and further out they saw the Cylons less and less, and I believe that in time the Cylons should not have been a factor at all.

What I liked was how the show explored other races. Encountered other beings. And ultimately I loved the banter between the pilots.

I liked how in the Marvel Universe comics a lot of stories were taking place amongst the fleet itself.

Sooooo many possibilities and what do we always get? Cylons.

And lately it seems to always hinge around defending Earth itself. Blah.

Oh well. I can hear in the background Catholic Nuns singing that song...

"You can't always get what you want...
you can't always get what you want..."

[Senmut]

How would YOU do it, now?

[PaulGTweed]

Cover #3, really tasteless. I'd expect something like that from MAD magazine.
Cover #3 was inspired by Star Wars poster.

[PaulGTweed]

The first issue is next month.
May 15 according to Dynamite.

[Jubal]

How would YOU do it, now?

Glad you asked Senmut. :salute:

When I told my wife about the fleet how they had ships that had certain races, wealthy, poor, recreation, utility she said "Oh kinda like Babylon 5, just scattered among a bunch of ships."

I thought that was a great analogy. For a while after "Hand of God" I think they would have travelled a bit without planets, so more stories among the fleet

Characters growing in logical directions. Many characters. Maybe a few new characters. Boxey slightly older, Muffit a bit more developed. How could Muffit develop? Not sure, Boxey has been tasked to train Muffit, has been a while.

The Pilot banter. Apollo and Starbuck are a good duo, but what happens as Apollo and Sheba spend more time together. How much longer can Starbuck ignore how he and Cassiopia are progressing?

Pegasus pilots had to join the ranks of the Galactica. Would some of them scan the airwaves looking for their beloved commander Cain? What happens when they find Pegasus?

Do we deal with the aftershock of the holocast? Some people shutting down in the after math as people come to terms with what was lost?

An inventory of resources throughout the story. At times they trade for resources, and sometimes they have to look among the fleet for items of interest to the races they encounter. Sometimes there is no one to trade with, and they have to work with what is left. At times they have to come to a stand still till scouts find the next source of trade. All and all not bad. Cylons and those persuing are for the most part way behind, though new menaces are still around.

Would other Battlestars and sub battlestars be found?

Would alien ships join their fleet?

Look more into the religion that Adama and all follows.

More culture, terminology, more exploring into the brother's of man concept. More human colonies found, alien races. Progress towards Earth, and setbacks. As more human colonies are found, some pretty advanced, the question comes up more and more "Why the hurry to Earth? Is there an Earth?"

Cylons? I would actually like to see that threat minimized. Show up from time to time, learn more about them as a culture. They are machines though, the ghosts of a civilization long gone. What would a race without a soul, just an echo of the living be like?

Those are some I would touch on. I liked the banter, characters, and development of all the above.

[Senmut]

Glad you asked Senmut. :salute:

When I told my wife about the fleet how they had ships that had certain races, wealthy, poor, recreation, utility she said "Oh kinda like Babylon 5, just scattered among a bunch of ships."

I thought that was a great analogy. For a while after "Hand of God" I think they would have travelled a bit without planets, so more stories among the fleet

Characters growing in logical directions. Many characters. Maybe a few new characters. Boxey slightly older, Muffit a bit more developed. How could Muffit develop? Not sure, Boxey has been tasked to train Muffit, has been a while.

The Pilot banter. Apollo and Starbuck are a good duo, but what happens as Apollo and Sheba spend more time together. How much longer can Starbuck ignore how he and Cassiopia are progressing?

Pegasus pilots had to join the ranks of the Galactica. Would some of them scan the airwaves looking for their beloved commander Cain? What happens when they find Pegasus?

Do we deal with the aftershock of the holocast? Some people shutting down in the after math as people come to terms with what was lost?

An inventory of resources throughout the story. At times they trade for resources, and sometimes they have to look among the fleet for items of interest to the races they encounter. Sometimes there is no one to trade with, and they have to work with what is left. At times they have to come to a stand still till scouts find the next source of trade. All and all not bad. Cylons and those persuing are for the most part way behind, though new menaces are still around.

Would other Battlestars and sub battlestars be found?

Would alien ships join their fleet?

Look more into the religion that Adama and all follows.

More culture, terminology, more exploring into the brother's of man concept. More human colonies found, alien races. Progress towards Earth, and setbacks. As more human colonies are found, some pretty advanced, the question comes up more and more "Why the hurry to Earth? Is there an Earth?"

Cylons? I would actually like to see that threat minimized. Show up from time to time, learn more about them as a culture. They are machines though, the ghosts of a civilization long gone. What would a race without a soul, just an echo of the living be like?

Those are some I would touch on. I liked the banter, characters, and development of all the above.



Ever check out the VS?

[Jubal]

Ever check out the VS?

What is VS?

[PaulGTweed]

Has anyone bought it today? Is anyone willing to admit they have bought it todat?

[Lara]

What is VS?

The Virtual Season Project, in the Fleets Forums, colonial library: use the jump forum pull down on the bottom of this page

The idea was to keep writing new seasons..

cheers
Lara

[peter noble]

Has anyone bought it today? Is anyone willing to admit they have bought it today?

Got mine this morning. Enjoyable read with a few niggles but 4/5 overall.

[Jubal]

Got mine this morning. Enjoyable read with a few niggles but 4/5 overall.

I could agree with that.

A couple of shout outs:

1) Loved the meeting hall pic where the dialog starts "In the Seventh Millennium..."

2) Loved Apollo's comment with Dr. Zee Starting with "I know you think highly of Zee, Doctor...." Always wondered what they would have thought of him. :)

What happens towards the end of the comic is typical for a Galactica episode when you think about it.

[JLHurley]

The issue definitely didn't thrill me but it was better than what we've seen in previous Dynamite series. I'd only give it a 2/5, though... There's so much potential but the writers just couldn't seem to tap into it, IMO.

[peter noble]

Cover to Dynamite's BG #4 by Alex Ross.

[gmd3d]

all ways liked Ross´s work...... this is cool

[Apolloisall]

Cover to Dynamite's BG #4 by Alex Ross.

Oh, that's just awesome!!! Thanks for posting that!:salute:

[PaulGTweed]

Alex Ross or the artists that did Space:1999 Shock and Awe should be doing the interior artwork.

[Jubal]

Alex Ross or the artists that did Space:1999 Shock and Awe should be doing the interior artwork.

So for $3.99 you get a great piece of Alex Ross art... and a story line throw in.

[Punisher454]

Cover #3 was inspired by Star Wars poster.

Ya, I get that, and thats what so lame about it. . As a star wars poster it was cool, but as a galactica cover, it isnt.

[PaulGTweed]

So for $3.99 you get a great piece of Alex Ross art... and a story line throw in.

Judging by Dynamite's handling of the Classic Battlestar Galactica franchise. The Cover art is all we're paying for. The story line, not so much. This one is not starting out good. Doctor Zee is closer to Boxey's age. In Galactica:1980 Zee is 14 years old. Boxey is close to 25-30.

[Punisher454]

#4 cover looks very good.
I agree about the 4 dollar art piece, the few dynamite comics I do own dont have such great content.

[Apolloisall]

I have Cylon Apocalypse, that wasn't too bad.:rolleyes:

[PaulGTweed]

I could agree with that.

A couple of shout outs:

1) Loved the meeting hall pic where the dialog starts "In the Seventh Millennium..."

2) Loved Apollo's comment with Dr. Zee Starting with "I know you think highly of Zee, Doctor...." Always wondered what they would have thought of him. :)

What happens towards the end of the comic is typical for a Galactica episode when you think about it.

Where is the Galactica's meeting hall located?

[PaulGTweed]

I have Cylon Apocalypse, that wasn't too bad.:rolleyes:

Cylon Apocalypse is only story arc classic BSG series fans liked.

[Reaper]

Cylon Apocalypse is only story arc classic BSG series fans liked.

I actually didn't like Cylon Apocalypse very much and preferred the First storyline more. it was not a GREAT one, and had holes the size of Cimtar it the story, but I liked it better then CA.

[Punisher454]

Where is the Galactica's meeting hall located?

In the show the camera always zooms to one of the large dome shapes near the middle of the ship. I think it is implied that it may be in that area.

[137th Gebirg]

Hmm...I always got the impression those were the power-producing "energizers" of the ship. Either that or Tylium/Soleum storage.

[gmd3d]

Hmm...I always got the impression those were the power-producing "energizers" of the ship. Either that or Tylium/Soleum storage.

I got the same impression..... for my next impression .... antimatter.....

[Apolloisall]

I got the same impression..... for my next impression .... antimatter.....

You're incouragable!:rotf:

[Punisher454]

I agree the domes are probably related to the energizers, but the camera move implies that it in that area.
If I were going to choose a location for it based on the surface features of the galactica I'd put it a little aft of the bridge.

[gmd3d]

I agree the domes are probably related to the energizers, but the camera move implies that it in that area.
If I were going to choose a location for it based on the surface features of the galactica I'd put it a little aft of the bridge.
that is what I always believed, somewhere aft of the Bridge.

these would the the things I would address in any visual update of BSG...

[gmd3d]

You're incouragable!:rotf:

I have been known for my incorrigibilis....


:star:

[PaulGTweed]

In the show the camera always zooms to one of the large dome shapes near the middle of the ship. I think it is implied that it may be in that area.
I meant in this issue. The glass above and behind Adama looks suspiciously like the gift shop area on the re-imagined BSG landing bay during the viper flyby.

[PaulGTweed]

The May sales figures for this issue are out. It is at #153 sold 14,835. It has beat issues 20 and 21 of the ongoing Star Trek reboot comic book and the re-launched G.I.JOE.

[JLHurley]

#153 really isn't that bad considering it isn't a Marvel or DC title.

[Senmut]

Don't let Imperious Leader hear about this!!!

[Apolloisall]

I'll check with my local comic book store, it looks good.

[peter noble]

Issue #2 is out this week.

[Apolloisall]

Issue #2 is out this week.

Great! I got the first one the other day, no chance to read it yet, but it looks cool!:thumbsup:

[peter noble]

Issue #2 preview: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=17019

[Apolloisall]

I just read the first one & liked it a lot, but is it just me- it seemed so short, or did I just read it REAL fast?

[peter noble]

Part two was just as good as the first, maybe better. D'n'A really know how to do last pages!

[PaulGTweed]

New Battlestar Galactica Classic #2 is at 187 10,503.

[peter noble]

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA #6

Written by Dan Abnett, art by Ceaar Razek, cover by Clint Langley.

What is it like to be a member of the Battlestar's valiant crew? Find out in this issue as we follow the highs and lows of one duty shift aboard the Galactica... just a day like any other in the fight to keep Mankind alive!

32 pages, $3.99, in stores on Oct. 16.

[peter noble]

Just read issue #3 and it maintained the high standard of the previous issues.

[David Kerin]

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA #6

Written by Dan Abnett, art by Ceaar Razek, cover by Clint Langley.

What is it like to be a member of the Battlestar's valiant crew? Find out in this issue as we follow the highs and lows of one duty shift aboard the Galactica... just a day like any other in the fight to keep Mankind alive!

32 pages, $3.99, in stores on Oct. 16.

Love their cover art! I know its probably the 5th grader in me talking, but there is just something so cool about the classic designs. And this cover slightly reminds me of the Frazetta art, though a bit closer to the show in design. Maybe its the sharp angles and lines of the figures.

[PaulGTweed]

Battlestar Galactica #3 is listed at 193 at 9,200. Issue 3 was predictable in the older Starbuck and the re-appearance of the Galactica at the end. The use of re-imagined BSG references 'Toaster' for the Cylons. Note: to Dynamite: If no re-imagined BSG references didn't exist in the original BSG TV series run. THEY SHOULD NOT APPEAR IN THE CLASSIC BSG STORIES! Dynamite being late to bring out this issue. Dynamite is still Fracking the original BSG Fans. The writer for this story arc is writing the sequel to Dynamite's Galactica:1980 comic which has the completely implausible destruction of the Galactica by a primitive earth nuclear missle twenty feet over the White House in Washington D.C.

[martok2112]

Battlestar Galactica #3 is listed at 193 at 9,200. Issue 3 was predictable in the older Starbuck and the re-appearance of the Galactica at the end. The use of re-imagined BSG references 'Toaster' for the Cylons. Note: to Dynamite: If no re-imagined BSG references didn't exist in the original BSG TV series run. THEY SHOULD NOT APPEAR IN THE CLASSIC BSG STORIES! Dynamite being late to bring out this issue. Dynamite is still Fracking the original BSG Fans. The writer for this story arc is writing the sequel to Dynamite's Galactica:1980 comic which has the completely implausible destruction of the Galactica by a primitive earth nuclear missle twenty feet over the White House in Washington D.C.

Interesting duplicity of thought there.

[PaulGTweed]

Interesting duplicity of thought there.

Sales are supposed to GO UP, NOT DOWN. #1 was 153, issue #3 at 193. Dynamite is losing money with each issue they bring out. Hopefully, Issue #5 will not resolve the Time Warp storyline. I have my doubts.

[martok2112]

I don't mean to bust your chops, but the duplicity to which I refer is:

1. You obviously don't like that this comic series, whilst based in original series lore, is using terminology from the new series....apparently some kind of sacrilege or taboo.

2. You use a term that has been given a bit more expletive meaning in the new series to describe how you think original series fans are supposedly being treated by Dynamite....a term that has origins in the 1978 series, albeit with supposedly less profane intent.

Ironic? ;)

[PaulGTweed]

I don't mean to bust your chops, but the duplicity to which I refer is:

1. You obviously don't like that this comic series, whilst based in original series lore, is using terminology from the new series....apparently some kind of sacrilege or taboo.

2. You use a term that has been given a bit more expletive meaning in the new series to describe how you think original series fans are supposedly being treated by Dynamite....a term that has origins in the 1978 series, albeit with supposedly less profane intent.

Ironic? ;)
1. DUH!!! In the final issue of Dynamite's Galactica:1980 adaptation Adama is Bill Adama and Baltar is Gaius Baltar. The Colonials NEVER HAD FIRST NAMES IN THE ORIGINAL SERIES! The actual translation of their names from Aramaic would be Bill son of Adama. Not Bill Adama. Giving them first names and using re-imagined series references should be kept out of original BSG Canon because they ARE NOT TAKING PLACE IN THE SAME UNIVERSE. Adding the re-imagined series references is not attracting their fans bacause to them the original series is a glorified cartoon. 2. Glen Larson using Frack was his way of getting past the TV Networks Standards and Practices as well as the 8:00 p.m. timeslot regulations. If he had used his original Frak spelling Standards and Practices would not have allowed him to use that word on television.

[martok2112]

No need to shout. :)

Your second point is something I had honestly always considered...that perhaps "Frack" was Larson's way of getting around the S&P's and censors of the time. A lot of original series fans would not agree with that supposition however. Many seem to think that it was more like "Oh, darn" rather than the meaning it was given in the recent series.

And only Poppa Larson knows for sure what his intent was. :)

But yes, Larson had to actually tone down a few things in the original series so that it could air in the late '70's. The relationship between Starbuck and Cassiopea was meant to be a lot steamier...or at least, their little fling in the launch tube in SASW was. The enemy had to be robotic, because the networks didn't want a high, organic body count on a week to week basis. And of course, they had to have a kid and a cutesy robot companion to appeal to children (of which original Galactica's audience was heavily comprised).

No, the original series characters did not have first names, and should not have in an ongoing comic series. But cross wiring is not unexpected.

Personally, I always had a problem with singular names. What if you're in a room that had three Apollo's in it, and someone calls out "Apollo!"? You're gonna get three heads that turn. It'd be just like trying to get a cute girl's attention in a crowd. "Lisa!......Lisa!" Three or four chicks might turn in the direction of the caller, and a couple of them might not be the attractive one the caller whose attention the caller is trying to get. Granted, in the original series, someone could've said "Apollo, Son of Adama!" and that might yield the more desired result, unless there were two sons of Adama in the room with the name "Apollo".

Dawg and I came up with a viable solution, which I used in my "Galactica: The Last Battlestar" story...my own retelling of the fall of the colonies and humanity's exodus to the stars.

The formal name for each character is fairly long, and is translated from ancient Kobol. The name basically cites the person, their mother and father, of the planet (enter planet here), of the House of Kobol. (And all Colonials are "of the House of Kobol". The informal version is just their singular name.

But, with any naming convention, you can still run into the problem of multiples in a room. At least this gives a bit more effort toward differentiation. :)

[Apolloisall]

1 Adding the re-imagined series references is not attracting their fans bacause to them the original series is a glorified cartoon.
I feel bad for Ron though, I hear he busted his arm patting himself on the back after the finale...:D

[JLHurley]

Sales are supposed to GO UP, NOT DOWN. #1 was 153, issue #3 at 193. Dynamite is losing money with each issue they bring out. Hopefully, Issue #5 will not resolve the Time Warp storyline. I have my doubts.

It's more common than not that sales on comic series go down, unless there's a major change on the creative team and even then it would have to involve a popular writer and/or artist coming aboard. Plus, that #193 ranking doesn't necessarily mean anything. If #3 came out the month a lot of comics debuted (or a company like Marvel or DC had a company-wide event such as this month's 3D covers from DC), you're going to see a comic drop in ranking even if its sales were the same or higher than the previous month. What's important is the actual number of copies sold, and that unfortunately is also down from 10,505 to 9,200, a -12.42% drop according to Comic Book Resources. What sold less: DC's Arrow series (a digital to print title based on the TV series) and Green Team; Dynamite's Shadow/Green Hornet; IDW's GI Joe, Judge Dredd and Transformers; Bonzo's Simpsons Comics; and lots and lots of other titles. No way will DC hold on to a title with the numbers that Arrow and Green Team are pulling in, but whether Dynamite considers BG's #s adequate to continue the series...I have no idea.

[JLHurley]

i feel bad for ron though, i hear he busted his arm patting himself on the back after the finale...:d

love it!!!

[Jayworld]

I don't post much on the board anymore; lurk some, hopeful for "new" news.... Had to post on this topic, though. I've been a BG fan since the original series came out in 1978; I am also a comic book collector and fan. I am enjoying the new Dynamite limited series so far and have all three issues as released. The Alex Ross cover artwork is spectacular, as is all his work. I own the Marvel original BG series, the Dynamite Cylon Apocalypse, most of the Realm Press, etc. I think the "tongue-in-cheek" #3 cover homage to the original Star Wars early release poster (I owned this poster when it came out) was pretty cool, too.

I understand the purist problems with this current Dynamite series, but I am enjoying it, as it is mostly Classic Battlestar. Not a big fan of Dr. Zee, but when Galactica 1980 came out, I loved it, because it was Battlestar, although not as good as the original first series (some of you will take exception to that, but to a 13 year old at the time who was greatly disappointed abou the original series cancellation, Galactica 1980 was decent); was bummed when it was cancelled, too (yes, I own the 1980 DVD set and the Cylon head classic series set). I enjoy them because they are Battlestar.

With the lack of news on any new BG projects and especially the on-again/off-again Singer movie, this current comic is a new BG story that I can enjoy.

I would say go out and buy and and show that you are interested in this through sales. Most comic shops have all three issues still in stock (although probably very low on #1).

[peter noble]

Issue #4 was great again!

[Senmut]

I don't post much on the board anymore; lurk some, hopeful for "new" news.... Had to post on this topic, though. I've been a BG fan since the original series came out in 1978; I am also a comic book collector and fan. I am enjoying the new Dynamite limited series so far and have all three issues as released. The Alex Ross cover artwork is spectacular, as is all his work. I own the Marvel original BG series, the Dynamite Cylon Apocalypse, most of the Realm Press, etc. I think the "tongue-in-cheek" #3 cover homage to the original Star Wars early release poster (I owned this poster when it came out) was pretty cool, too.

I understand the purist problems with this current Dynamite series, but I am enjoying it, as it is mostly Classic Battlestar. Not a big fan of Dr. Zee, but when Galactica 1980 came out, I loved it, because it was Battlestar, although not as good as the original first series (some of you will take exception to that, but to a 13 year old at the time who was greatly disappointed abou the original series cancellation, Galactica 1980 was decent); was bummed when it was cancelled, too (yes, I own the 1980 DVD set and the Cylon head classic series set). I enjoy them because they are Battlestar.

With the lack of news on any new BG projects and especially the on-again/off-again Singer movie, this current comic is a new BG story that I can enjoy.

I would say go out and buy and and show that you are interested in this through sales. Most comic shops have all three issues still in stock (although probably very low on #1).

Write something for the VS?

[Jayworld]

Write something for the VS?

I'm sorry, what is the VS?:?:

[JLHurley]

Diamond Comics Distributors lists issue #4 at #262 on the charts. (DC's highly successful villains month--offering both 3D and 2D covers of every title--pushed practically everything down the list.) Copies sold dropped from last month's 9200 to 7955. :(

[Senmut]

I'm sorry, what is the VS?:?:

Virtual Season. Currently finishing up VS3.

http://galacticafanfic.com/stories/season2.html

[peter noble]

Alex Ross's cover to #5.

[Senmut]

Lucifer taking over???

[peter noble]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/16/spaced-out-talking-science-fiction-writing-and-battlestar-galactica-with-dan-abnett/

[JLHurley]

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: STARBUCK was released yesterday. Here's an interview with the writer:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/21/tony-lee-on-writing-battlestar-galactica-starbuck-for-both-the-causal-and-serious-fans/

[peter noble]

I'd just like to point out that 'Memorial' the first trade paperback collecting BG 2013 issues 1-5 is out and available from comic shops and Amazon.

It's a nice package and despite a few minor niggles, a worthy celebration of TOS in its 35th year!

[JLHurley]

I don't think I've ever actually enjoyed a BG comic but it sure is great seeing an ongoing, a limited series and a one-shot all based on the original series released 35 years later.

[Jayworld]

I've now picked up through issue #6, and it looks as if this will be an ongoing series, so please go out and buy copies to support at your local comic dealer. Issue #6 was a great read (best so far of the series, in my opinion), as it focused on a watch on the bridge and Athena is the main protagonist. Pick it up!

[ernie90125]

I'd just like to point out that 'Memorial' the first trade paperback collecting BG 2013 issues 1-5 is out and available from comic shops and Amazon.

It's a nice package and despite a few minor niggles, a worthy celebration of TOS in its 35th year!

I hadn't realised the trade paperback had been released until I saw this post - I've just bought a copy!

[ernie90125]

The original art for the front covers of these comics is for sale here:

http://www.alexrossart.com/artforsale.asp?afs=T&new=T&page=2

I own Matt Busch's original painting of the front cover of "Eve of Destruction" and it looks great framed on my wall!

[BountyHunter]

Okay, I'm confused here.

The current ongoing is set in the continuity of the originals series, correct? What about this sequel to Guggenheim's 1980 series? Is this it? Or is that another book that's coming out? Or is it out already? If it is, what's it called?

Or is the current ongoing going to lead into Guggenheim's 1980 stuff?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against alternate reality stories, or Galactica 1980 stuff being put out (I actually don't mind the show, and LOVED it as a kid), I'm just trying to figure out which comics by Dynamite are set in the same continuity together.

What about the original 5 issues that were put out (set in the timeframe of the original series, I believe), and BSG: Cylon Apocalypse? Are those two series in continuity with the new ongoing? What about the new Starbuck mini?

Any help would be great. :)

[BountyHunter]

Does anyone even come on these forums anymore?

[ernie90125]

Does anyone even come on these forums anymore?

The guy who posted twice just before you evidently does!

Maybe people are hiding (also known as enjoying Christmas Eve with this familiies)!

:duck:

I am sure interesting, informed and enlightening responses to your post will follow in good time...

[BountyHunter]

Oh yeah right. Christmas. Forgot about that. It's not allowed in my house. lol

[Lara]

Does anyone even come on these forums anymore?

Well, my excuse isn't Christmas... but I was on the west bank in Luxor looking around Seti's temple in the afternoon... and we didn't take the computer with us.. LOL!!

can't answer the Q about the comics..

Cheers
Lara

[peter noble]

As far as I know it ignores the 'Galactica 1980' mini continuity and rightly so.

[Senmut]

Lords of kobol be praised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jayworld]

Yes, the current ongoing Classic series pretty much ignores Galactica 1980. Issue #7 just came out, and it is great, introducing a new storyline, "Dreams of the 13th" in which several members of the crew are having the exact same dream of earth as the fleet plunges ahead into a space storm. Pick it up, write Dynamite and tell them you are enjoying the series. Let's keep this one going.

On a side note, my local comic store has not carried the Starbuck limited series. What's up with that? :blink:

[JLHurley]

The comic store I sink my $$$ into orders the specific comics I want; in fact, I send them a monthly "pull list" comprised of around 25 monthly titles that I pick up. It's a shame if your store doesn't order even a couple copies for display, but are they at least ordering one for you? It's not a bad read, IMO--not great but it's worth following, especially to support anything based on the original series.

[PaulGTweed]

In april, dynamite is bringing out a five issue series based on the re-imagined BSG character Six. As usual, the artwork in Six will be better than the BSG Classic. Adama in the current BSG Classic looks more like Colonel Harlan Sanders (He founded Kentucky Fried Chicken) or General Robert E Lee. The Adama in the Starbuck comics is better.

[Jayworld]

The comic store I sink my $$$ into orders the specific comics I want; in fact, I send them a monthly "pull list" comprised of around 25 monthly titles that I pick up. It's a shame if your store doesn't order even a couple copies for display, but are they at least ordering one for you? It's not a bad read, IMO--not great but it's worth following, especially to support anything based on the original series.

Thanks for the suggestion, but the days of having multiple subscriptions to comics for me are way long gone; I remember back in the 1980s I would subscribe to 8-10 titles a month, but comics were 75 cents to $1.00 each. Now with $3.99 and up comics :yikes: I pick up only the classic BG titles, and only because it is Battlestar. New comics (past 20 years) offer nothing for me, as far as artwork, writing, and characterization.

[JLHurley]

IMO the recent issue (#8) was a big improvement over previous issues. Cesar Razek did a fine job with the art and Abnett's dialogue was overall well handled--I could practically hear Terry Carter's voice whenever Tigh spoke. I'm curious whether anyone else shared my reaction. I don't think I've ever really even enjoyed a comic take on BG, but #8 kept my attention start to finish.

[BountyHunter]

I haven't read any of the new ones yet. :( I only have issues 2, and 7 and 8. Waiting for my missing issues to show up at the comic store (I have them on back order).

[JLHurley]

And here's something that came out of left field: there's a Battlestar Galactica Annual on its way!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/02/16/exclusive-preview-battlestar-galactica-annual-2014-the-origin-of-baltar/

It follows Baltar to the planet he was going to be left on per his agreement with Adama in "Hand of God." Dynamite's really showing some commitment to classic BG--an ongoing, a Starbuck mini, a "Li'l" one-shot, and now an annual.

[ernie90125]

The annual is interesting!

Does anyone know when the next TBP edition of the comics is coming out?

Also, will the annual be collected together with other one-offs to form a TPB - based on Dynamite's usual way of working if anyone knows if they typically do this?

[Jayworld]

Very cool. I don't see a release date yet, and mycomicshop.com states that the cover artwork is tentative, but I do agree that Dynamite so far has handled the classic series very well for 2013.

[JLHurley]

The recent storyline has really held my interest--something I can't say for the vast majority of BG comics we've seen over the years. Wonder how long this ride is going to last.

[peter noble]

Wonder how long this ride is going to last.

There were no solicits for the Classic BG this month, I'm thinking the annual is the last issue.

[peter noble]

Yep, there's no sign of it for June either, looks like the ride is over.

[Jayworld]

Picking up the annual and #9 today at the local shop; will ask the shop if the series continues. According to this link:
http://mycomicshop.com/search?TID=24231039'
The current Classic series runs at least through 12 issues. Only the first 9 have come out. Lone Star Comics (mycomicshop) is one of the best retail and online comic shops both in Texas and the nation….

[peter noble]

The current Classic series runs at least through 12 issues. Only the first 9 have come out. Lone Star Comics (mycomicshop) is one of the best retail and online comic shops both in Texas and the nation….

The letterer was on Twitter today saying he was lettering issue #11.

[Eric Paddon]

Well I went through the annual, and I must say that I have to applaud this story. The continuity was straight with established Galactica canon and as a Baltar origin tale goes, it was well done. Nice way to try and harmonize both versions of what happened to Baltar in Saga!

[BST]

Eric,

Good to see you again!! :)

[Jayworld]

Well I went through the annual, and I must say that I have to applaud this story. The continuity was straight with established Galactica canon and as a Baltar origin tale goes, it was well done. Nice way to try and harmonize both versions of what happened to Baltar in Saga!

Eric:
I concur. The annual was VERY well done, and provided an incredible backstory for the character of Baltar. Also, the surprise (twist?) ending was superb, and I won't spoil it here. I definitely recommend anyone and everyone going out to their local comic store and getting a copy of the Annual. Keep writing Dynamite, too! I'd like to discuss the ending and your thoughts about this issue once others have had time to buy and read.....

Issue #9 wrapped up the ongoing storyline of the 13th quite nicely, with a fantastic sci-fi type ending that reminded me of classic Star Trek. Very nicely done and well worth the $3.99.

[Senmut]

He was finally rescued from Lucifer's BaseShip.

[JLHurley]

The annual was a lot of fun--ditto issue 9. I wish the series had started out this strong.

[Jayworld]

He was finally rescued from Lucifer's BaseShip.

?? Not sure I understand….

[Senmut]

Sarcasm, re Baltar. Me being bad.

[Jayworld]

Gotcha! And me being dense. ;-)

[Jayworld]

Here's a link from Lone Star comics that shows the upcoming covers for issues 10, 11, 12 (albeit with a disclaimer that the images may change):

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=24231039

[JLHurley]

Thanks for sharing that link. I was starting to doubt that there was another issue coming post-annual.

[Eugenia]

Eric:
I concur. The annual was VERY well done, and provided an incredible backstory for the character of Baltar. Also, the surprise (twist?) ending was superb, and I won't spoil it here. I definitely recommend anyone and everyone going out to their local comic store and getting a copy of the Annual. Keep writing Dynamite, too! I'd like to discuss the ending and your thoughts about this issue once others have had time to buy and read.....

Wait, what? :wtf:

Baltar gets some attention? This isn't that Gaius twerp, is it?

[peter noble]

Wait, what? :wtf:

Baltar gets some attention? This isn't that Gaius twerp, is it?

What, you missed an entire comic dedicated to Count Baltar?

Shame on you! ;)

[Eugenia]

What, you missed an entire comic dedicated to Count Baltar?

Shame on you! ;)

I thought it was another of those "Oh, yeah, we'll do this if we get around to it - like never" things.

Let me guess, the surprise ending is Baltar makes it to end without dying. Well, I would be surprised... :)

[Jayworld]

Pick up the issue and find out. Very good reading, and the artwork is terrific, too.

[BountyHunter]

Finally got those missing back issues in. Yay, I can finally start reading. And I'm laid up in bed with the flu today, so I've got my stack of issues 1-10, plus the Annual, and I can read em all in one go, if I want as nobody is expecting me to get out of bed and do stuff. lol :]

[Jayworld]

Just picked up #10 today (last issue left at local comic store), and will post review later. My local comic shop still had a few issues left of #1, #3, and #7, but sold out of everything else.

[monolith21]

I finally have all the issues (non goofy cover variants). My local comic shop had them on sale for half off on Free Comic Book Day so I got all ten issues and two of the Starbuck issues for under $20! Now to catch up on some reading.

I'm glad that the response is positive this time around. The last round Dynamite did was alright but a little lacking.

[peter noble]

Galactica 1880:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/18/battlestar-galactica-goes-steampunk/

[JLHurley]

Galactica 1880:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/18/battlestar-galactica-goes-steampunk/

I don't think this one's going to get my time and money...

[PaulGTweed]

I thought it was supposed to be a 21st century version of Galactica: 1980. Not an 1880 steampunk crap version or a sequel to Dynamite's ID4 rip off of Galactica: 1980 comic mini series. Dynamite did a steampunk version of the Six Million Dollar Man. It was either Six Hundred or six Thousand Dollar Man. I quess they forgot about the TV movie 'The Wild Wild West Revisited' Dr. Miguilito Loveless Jr. creates Six Hundred Dollar people.

[Eric Paddon]

Yet another in a long, long trail of authors who when it comes to official Galactica projects, just do not get it.

[peter noble]

Interview with Dan Abnett: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/24/somewhere-theres-a-viper-with-the-name-dan-abnett-on-it/

[Lara]

Galactica 1880:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/18/battlestar-galactica-goes-steampunk/

OOh, err...

I actually don't mind the concept, but I've never warmed to Dynamites visual treatments so the graphics in the link leave me a tad underwhelmed :(

cheers
Lara

[Senmut]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.......................

[JLHurley]

So...Abnett's leaving?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/04/writers-commentary-dan-abnett-on-battlestar-galactica-12/

[peter noble]

No, they're cooking up the next arc which is another six issues, I think. There's going to be a death (my bet is on Apollo).

[JLHurley]

It's interesting though that there's no Next Issue blurb...

#12 was ok but one thing annoyed me:

(SPOILERS, I guess)

In spite of how he was portrayed in this issue, Boxey knows all about death. Wartime death. Did Dan Abnett miss the episode "Lost Planet of the Gods"? You know, the one where Boxey's mother is shot by a Cylon and dies a couple minutes after he says goodbye to her? I guess maybe the boy needs some serious time with Dr. Madusa to address his denial and/or memory issues...

[Senmut]

Maybe it all got re-imagined? ;)

[JLHurley]

More on Steampunk G80: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/07/the-future-of-the-past-tony-lee-talks-steampunk-battlestar-galactica-1880/ [Insert snoring Colonial Warrior smilie face]

[Lara]

More on Steampunk G80: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/07/the-future-of-the-past-tony-lee-talks-steampunk-battlestar-galactica-1880/ [Insert snoring Colonial Warrior smilie face]

Ta for the post.
The extra artwork and the character work up seems to have missed steam punk high victoriana in favor of something a bit too pinup girl.

Cheers

[JLHurley]

And still more Steampunk...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/16/baltar-creating-the-cyclonics-is-very-victor-frankenstein-tony-lee-talking-bsg-1880/

[Eugenia]

More on Steampunk G80: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/07/the-future-of-the-past-tony-lee-talks-steampunk-battlestar-galactica-1880/ [Insert snoring Colonial Warrior smilie face]

"...the third is a one time colleague of Baltar, who created the Cylonics and the Babbage Network with Baltar and his protege, a young scientist named Athena…"

Excuse me? :eek: Is this a typo or what?

I also finally got my hands on the Annual but haven't had time to read it yet...

[PaulGTweed]

The preview of the Unlettered Battlestar Galactica 1880 has come out. It has Giant City destroying Cyclonic Centurians. Think Terminator: Salvation. It will be dreadful, not even worth a penny.

[JLHurley]

The preview: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/21/exclusive-extended-preview-of-steampunk-battlestar-galactica-1880-1/ . Just when I think I've seen everything, along comes giant, Transformer-sized Cylons shooting human-size Cylons out of the palms of their hands.

[Eugenia]

After ordering the BG Classic Annual from the local comic specialty store, it arrived and I picked it up. Anyway, my comments on the Annual (which keep in mind I have this bias concerning Baltar.)

VAGUE SPOILER/HINTS AHEAD:

For the artwork, it was well done but kind of clunky in spots. I preferred Chris Scalf's which captured the visual design of the series even if he couldn't use actor likenesses. I guess the biggest thing I missed is that the artist (Kewber Baal) was clearly using John Colicos's likenesses but didn't capture that demented look in the actor's eyes or the whacked out smile. (I loved those scenes in the series. When Colicos got into scenery chewing mode, no set was safe...)

For the story (by Robert Place Napton), to me there was a place where it dragged during the early flashback section which then picked up when it started to tie in with the actual series. (My reaction may have been influenced by a fanfic in which Baltar was from Scorpia and the motivations for his later betrayal of the Colonies weren't dealt with in such a summary manner and even acquired the grandeur of a Shakespearean tragedy.)

I was left with the questions of "Okay, why was his father such a jerk?" and "Why didn't sensors on the Galactica go off?"

SPOILERS AHEAD:

Was that menage a trois a deliberate reference to Gaius's menage a trois?

Really, Dynamite guys, I watch Futurama. I ended up making Head-In-A-Jar jokes.

Overall, I'd give it a B+. It had merit, some clever tie-ins with the series, and good artwork.

[Jayworld]

Haven't picked up the new Dynamite "Steampunk" yet; may do so; but now a quandary. Went to the local comic book shop about 2 weeks ago to get the last two issues (#11, #12), and saw that #11 was sold out and they just had #12. I skipped buying it, as I won't read ahead until I read in sequence, so bummer, I have issues #1-10 and the annual and now the collection is incomplete…..

[peter noble]

Ebay!

[PaulGTweed]

Ebay, Amazon or another comic book shop!

[Jayworld]

The problem with eBay, that because of the huge increase in shipping, there are no good comic deals anymore. One single issue can cost $3.99 and up just to ship… Bummer. Will keep looking.

[JLHurley]

Very, very brief interview and some artwork (not new, I think) re: the steampunk thing:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/29/artist-spotlight-aneke-from-dynamites-steampunk-bsg-1880/

[David Kerin]

You know... I think this is a fun and cool offshoot idea. And we have a male Starbuck, a daggit, and numerous others that show it's based off our beloved original series. I'm glad to see interest in having a little fun with the original concept like this. Sky Pirate Captain Starbuck and his humanoid/daggit co-pilot? Cool!

[PaulGTweed]

After ordering the BG Classic Annual from the local comic specialty store, it arrived and I picked it up. Anyway, my comments on the Annual (which keep in mind I have this bias concerning Baltar.)

VAGUE SPOILER/HINTS AHEAD:

For the artwork, it was well done but kind of clunky in spots. I preferred Chris Scalf's which captured the visual design of the series even if he couldn't use actor likenesses. I guess the biggest thing I missed is that the artist (Kewber Baal) was clearly using John Colicos's likenesses but didn't capture that demented look in the actor's eyes or the whacked out smile. (I loved those scenes in the series. When Colicos got into scenery chewing mode, no set was safe...)

For the story (by Robert Place Napton), to me there was a place where it dragged during the early flashback section which then picked up when it started to tie in with the actual series. (My reaction may have been influenced by a fanfic in which Baltar was from Scorpia and the motivations for his later betrayal of the Colonies weren't dealt with in such a summary manner and even acquired the grandeur of a Shakespearean tragedy.)

I was left with the questions of "Okay, why was his father such a jerk?" and "Why didn't sensors on the Galactica go off?"

SPOILERS AHEAD:

Was that menage a trois a deliberate reference to Gaius's menage a trois?

Really, Dynamite guys, I watch Futurama. I ended up making Head-In-A-Jar jokes.

Overall, I'd give it a B+. It had merit, some clever tie-ins with the series, and good artwork.

There is a major contradiction between this annual and the TV series. If Baltar was turned into a Cylon, why is he limping in The Gun on Ice Planet Zero? Baltar was injured in Lost Planet of the Gods. In the annual Baltar believes the Cylons put a chip in his head as Gaius did in the re-imagined series.

[Jayworld]

Well, to help this post along, since we are missing 4 years; I went to the local Half Price bookstore about a year ago and picked up the mini-series of "Death of Apollo" to read and was really turned off due to the lack of research into the original series as well as poor writing (i.e. the characters in the comic did not act/speak like the characters in the series). In addition, Apollo was portrayed as RIGHT HANDED in the comic. That was the first early sign that the research was off. I do NOT recommend this series. And I own all of the Dynamite Classic Battlestar series and mini-series, too.

[ernie90125]

Battlestar Galactica vs Battlestar Galactica Trade Paperback due out 16 Oct 2018

https://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-TP/dp/1524107204/

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61hAJK32YOL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

[ernie90125]

Exclusive: John Jackson Miller on Dynamite's new laser-blasting Battlestar Galactica series

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-john-jackson-miller-on-dynamites-new-laser-blasting-battlestar-galactica-series

[Eric Paddon]

Battlestar Galactica vs Battlestar Galactica Trade Paperback due out 16 Oct 2018

https://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-TP/dp/1524107204/

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61hAJK32YOL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

I leafed through this on-line where comic books are uploaded. I was so horrified and disgusted with what they did at the climax that it sadly reinforced every bad impression Dynamite has given me since they first started doing anything related to Galactica.

[Senmut]

For those of us too unmotivated to get one, care to lay a basic outline on us?

[Eric Paddon]

It's a convoluted crossover tale of both BSG entities, real and GINO. It's focused on our Pegasus with the real Cain. Iblis is in there too, but I really can't summarize the whole plot. Suffice to say the final issue ends with among other things Sheba shot dead and dying in her father's arms and a grief stricken Cain blowing up his ship.

These people at Dynamite have just never gotten it. They're as dumb as they were 12 years ago when they did their first Galactica comic and while I'm sure there's been an occasional good story from them (the one that retold Baltar's story that ingeniously reconciled the original concept of him being beheaded and surviving was the best), their overall track record has been bad for the property on all levels IMO.

[AlternityOrange]

BSG vs BSG was awful on almost all levels. I've liked a few of the Dynamite books, and the new one sounds promising so far. But over all they've been disappointing. What they really need is an editor who is knowledgeable about BSG .

[Senmut]

BSG vs BSG was awful on almost all levels. I've liked a few of the Dynamite books, and the new one sounds promising so far. But over all they've been disappointing. What they really need is an editor who is knowledgeable about BSG .

Anyone who can draw well...care to illustrate the VS? If I do say so myself (and I do say so!), we have amassed a collection of stories FAR SUPERIOR to ANYTHING that Hollyweird could have excreted, under the guise of BSG. I urge everyone to have a look.
An editor knowledgeable about BSG? Look no further than THE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ernie90125]

John Jackson Miller’s Writers Commentary on Classic Battlestar Galactica #1

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11/10/john-jackson-miller-writers-commentary-classic-battlestar-galactica-1/

[ernie90125]

Battlestar Galactica: Counterstrike Trade Paperback available for pre-order ahead of the 23rd July 2019 release date:

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[Jubal]

Two Adamas? Again? That BSG vs. BSG universe is dreadful as it is. I'm not wasting any more cubits on that story.

[JLHurley]

IMO the latest BG series by John Jackson Miller is easily one of the best if not the best BG comic we've seen so far.

[Senmut]

It's a convoluted crossover tale of both BSG entities, real and GINO. It's focused on our Pegasus with the real Cain. Iblis is in there too, but I really can't summarize the whole plot. Suffice to say the final issue ends with among other things Sheba shot dead and dying in her father's arms and a grief stricken Cain blowing up his ship.

These people at Dynamite have just never gotten it. They're as dumb as they were 12 years ago when they did their first Galactica comic and while I'm sure there's been an occasional good story from them (the one that retold Baltar's story that ingeniously reconciled the original concept of him being beheaded and surviving was the best), their overall track record has been bad for the property on all levels IMO.

Exactly. Which is why it should always be in the hands of the fans.

[Jubal]

IMO the latest BG series by John Jackson Miller is easily one of the best if not the best BG comic we've seen so far.

Which series was that one?

[JLHurley]

Which series was that one?

It's the current monthly (or semi-monthly--the latest issue is VERY late) series. Here are some links:

https://www.dynamite.com/htmlfiles/viewProduct.html?CAT=DF-Battlestar_Galactica_Classic

http://majorspoilers.com/2018/07/18/john-jackson-miller-to-pen-new-battlestar-galactica-at-dynamite-entertainment/?nabe=5584920379129856:0

https://robojapan.blogspot.com/2018/08/john-jackson-miller-pens-battlestar.html

It's currently at #3, although there was also a #0. Covers are reminiscent of Marvel's series back in the late 70s.

[Eric Paddon]

The best I could say is "eh", which is the highest rating I could ever give to anything Dynamite has done. This one didn't drive me to white-hot anger like their first idiotic effort in 2006 did (setting a five issue story in the middle of Saga that simply doesn't fit at all with the dynamics of the characters) or that repulsive crossover story with the other entity. But it keeps leaving me unsatisfied because in this format of nothing but the perpetual short miniseries, never once is there any attention paid to developing the characters or exploring the character relationships as we saw them develop in the stories. All I end up seeing are characters presented in their one-note cliche templates thrust in a wall-to-wall action story where inevitably I'm going to see and learn more about the aliens (as was the case in this story) than I am about the regulars of Galactica. I'm not knocking action, because goodness knows comic books as a visual medium thrive on it, but it's always struck me that the Dynamite mindset when it comes to Galactica has been to treat it as kiddie-fare only. So that means we'll get nothing but action and battles from start to finish and cool drawings of vipers......and nothing in the way of introspection and development in character relationships like Adama and his children, or Apollo-Boxey, or Apollo-Sheba or Starbuck-Cassiopeia. And that to me does not represent tapping into the meaning of what makes Galactica special.

I have never understood why those who get tasked with writing Galactica stories professionally, whether for novels or comics, just never get it when it comes to the essence of what makes Galactica more than just a great sci-fi action series. But then again, I suspect they're largely influenced by the propaganda that was parroted endlessly 15 years ago and really think this is what the fans of Galactica want. And no matter how much we try to point out otherwise, they just don't listen.

I have enough of an open mind to keep an eye on what comes, but honestly no one has gotten Galactica "right" in terms of an official project since Realm Press (and Max Press had started out promising before they fell apart). I wouldn't rate anything that's been done by Dynamite as superior to the good fanfic we've had over the last 25 years from a multitude of authors and which I'm happy to say is still continuing. (though I will make perhaps one exception for the Baltar story in the 2014 annual which *did* get things right in a one issue bit of introspection).

[ernie90125]

Hi Eric,

I deleted the first sentence of your post as I suspect you may have inadvertently linked to a website which has unlicensed uploads of copyrighted comics. You may not have realised that at the time...but CF shouldn't have links to infringements of copyright.

Move along...move along...nothing to see here everyone!

[Eric Paddon]

Understand the position of not linking it. Though I have to admit it's surprising it hasn't been shut down given the scope of what they have if that's the case.

I did go through "Death Of Apollo" for the first time as well and had to shake my head at that one. Adama openly referring to Starbuck as an "idiot?" And Apollo is NOT the sort of person who would go into mope mode over not being able to fly. But what's even more ridiculous is how that story is taking place ten yahrens after the Destruction and everyone seems so utterly stagnant as if nothing's changed in their lives since day one (and Boxey, while being drawn to look older is still wearing the same outfit he had in Saga!).

Then I re-read the first Max Press series and was blown away. The characters and the interactions were just perfect. And maybe it's no surprise that the reason is because that and Realm's comics were written before there was a GINO because more than ever it's become clear that TOS by Dynamite is filtered through a GINO lens and perspective of TOS.

[ernie90125]

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[Croft2018]

I've read a couple of the Dynamite BG comics and was not impressed with the stories or the artwork, which made everyone look beefy and built like Swarzenegger.

I was especially disappointed in their rethinking of Galactica 1980; absurd.

[Senmut]

What did they do?
I'm not a comic person, so I never saw it.

[Eric Paddon]

I've read a couple of the Dynamite BG comics and was not impressed with the stories or the artwork, which made everyone look beefy and built like Swarzenegger.

I was especially disappointed in their rethinking of Galactica 1980; absurd.

Well.....I gave them a brownie point for trying to reinvent the concept with a more compelling storyline. The execution though was way off, and don't get me started on how they tried to (ahem) drag in more than one unwelcome GINO reference!

But the one thing that amazes me is how that story and just about EVERY Dynamite story keeps making this wrongheaded assumption that religion in Galactica is polytheistic. Do these people ever LISTEN to the dialogue in the show? God is more than once referred to as singular by Adama and others. Heck, the whole title of the last episode is the ultimate comment on how the "standard" Colonial religion starts from a monotheistic background. I suspect that the influence of GINO is what causes this, and frankly it gets very irritating to me to see this mistake made over and over.

[Croft2018]

Gino?

[Eric Paddon]

The acronym those of us who do not care for a certain "reimagined" show utilize (Galactica In Name Only).

[Croft2018]

Cheers!

[JLHurley]

I can't believe after all this time I didn't know what GINO actually stood for. That or my aging memory discarded it a long time ago.

[Eric Paddon]

And just to clarify the two GINO references that were in that G80 reimagining. Baltar refers to Adama as "Bill", and then the "new" Galactica that is unveiled at the end of the story for the "Galactica 1981" sequel that never happened is identical to the ship from GINO.

[Yurien82]

I´m looking forward to it. :)

[Jayworld]

While the Dynamite Annual featuring the Baltar story was well done, in my opinion, and I enjoy the classic comics just to have classic storylines to read (with exceptions noted below), I concur that it does seem that the Dynamite writers/editors really are not as familiar with the original Battlestar Galactica as they are with GINO, which is why we get so many GINO inferences throughout the "classic" storylines, whether that be in dialogue, character names, or others:

1. In the Death of Apollo mini-series, Apollo is depicted as right-handed. This is an immediate turn-off for me as a reader/consumer, and is proof that either they did not do their homework when crafting the story and layout, or they don't care. I passed on this series
2. At times, some of the cylons are depicted or referred to with names that hearken GINO. If the writers are honest, at the time the classic Battlestar took place in our real world on ABC television, there was (of course) no GINO, so they need to write the stories, dialogue, and characters with that in the forefront.

Part of me has always been interested in picking up the Classic BG mini-series "Starbuck," but due to the total misfire of "The Death of Apollo," I have been hesitant. Does anyone know if it is any good?

[Eric Paddon]

If only Realm Press had succeeded. They truly "got" it, but sadly they didn't even leave a good legacy of issues to look back at since in their zeal to generate interest with "Issue #1" of something almost every storyline they did is incomplete.

[BountyHunter]

How was the BSG vs BSG mini series? I just ordered it.

[BountyHunter]

Does anybody come here anymore?

[Jayworld]

Unfortunately, very few, Bounty. I come on here at least weekly, and judging by the stats at the bottom of the main forum page, there are a ton of members but actually less than 20 are active on the site, which is very sad. Some have said "try the facebook page, etc.," but facebook just doesn't hold a candle to this site. (I am a member of facebook and follow both the Classic BG site and the BG Mattel toy site). Regarding comics, my local comic book store had a 50 cent blow-out back-issue comic sale at the beginning of the month over 5 days, so I went early on a weekend (donning mask, etc.) and picked up Marvel BG #2 and the complete Dynamite BG Starbuck mini-series, which is VERY good, and I highly recommend it. It takes place prior to Saga of a Star World.

[JLHurley]

I drop by Colonial Fleets around once a week but am usually not much of a poster...

Re: the BSG vs BSG mini series, I don't recall much beyond it didn't handle the number of characters very well. I'd approach it like I approach ANY BG comic series: Don't expect much and you may find yourself pleasantly surprised.

[Eric Paddon]

THe crossover was handled very badly I felt and had an ending that just left me *very* ticked off.

I occasionally try to post when the mood hits me. Because I'm about to dive back into some fanfic projects on the fanfic mailing list I'm part of (we had to wait a few months for someone else to finish a story; This is the "Virtual Second Season" project for which earlier stories can be found here at Fleets) that's going to have the "rising tide lifting all boats" impact of making me more interested in talking about Galactica in general so I hope to be a bit more active.

[Eric Paddon]

It's not that I'm looking for another excuse to be critical of Dynamite's past work, but finally I've realized just why the group of stories written in 2013 through the "Death Of Apollo" storyline have such an......off quality to them. Collectively, those stories are intended to conform to the universe of the earlier 2009 "Galactica 1980" reimagining. Thus, the whole reason for a "Death of Apollo" story was to "establish" the world of the alternate G80 timeline and in this kind of set-up, there couldn't possibly be any room to show some legitimate character development of Apollo (or Starbuck for that matter. Consequently, Sheba and Cassiopeia are about non-existent in all of these stories and we get WAY too much of the "new" characters Xam and Dr. Madasa).

[Senmut]

Sounds like another "put the stamp of my whatever" onto it.
Grrrr.