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Lighthope
February 19th, 2012, 10:16 PM
Owning the DVDs are great. I have them all.

But the David Kerin edits make the best even better.

Of the Kerin edits, I have most of them. But conspicuously missing is Hand of God.

Does anyone know if these edits are still alive someplace?

Senmut
February 20th, 2012, 05:12 PM
On the SOL???? ;)

Lighthope
February 20th, 2012, 06:21 PM
On the SOL???? ;)

I don't know what that means....

BST
February 20th, 2012, 08:06 PM
Owning the DVDs are great. I have them all.

But the David Kerin edits make the best even better.

Of the Kerin edits, I have most of them. But conspicuously missing is Hand of God.

Does anyone know if these edits are still alive someplace?


Why not go to the source and send him a Private Message? Dave is an active member here.

;)

Senmut
February 20th, 2012, 09:25 PM
I don't know what that means....

SOL...Ship Of Lights.

Lighthope
February 20th, 2012, 09:50 PM
Why not go to the source and send him a Private Message? Dave is an active member here.

;)

I did find his YouTube channel where he's been active. I sent a message there. Hopefully he'll answer. I'd PM him here as well, but I don't want to be annoying. :rotf:

David Kerin
February 21st, 2012, 04:15 PM
Hey there... got your message on youtube, but didn't get to respond yet. So I'm here and that works too! I'll look around to see if they're anywhere else on the net. Been a while so not sure. I know there was a bit-torrent for some time. Will be back with what I find.

David Kerin
February 21st, 2012, 04:26 PM
Okay... looked at the places I remembered, and they're not there. Had an idea. What if I upload it to youtube, but I leave it unlisted. So it won't be found in a general search. But I can put a link to the page here, as anyone with a direct link is able to view an unlisted page. Its possible to upload full-res videos to youtube now, and at longer versions.

Then you can save the file to your computer as an mp4. I use the Firefox plugin DownloadHelper, and it works great for saving youtube videos.

I have to find my AVI backups of the edits, and I'll try Hand of God first. Don't know if they'll stay there because of copyright issues, but maybe with it unlisted it might last a bit.

Will let you know when I get something uploaded.

David Kerin
February 21st, 2012, 07:20 PM
Uploaded HoG to youtube unlisted. Below is the direct link. At this point it is still processing, but should be done soon.

http://youtu.be/ekpwP3AvPKc

There are ways to save the videos, as I mentioned the firefox plugin I use. There are others out there too. Hope this helps.

Dave

Lighthope
February 22nd, 2012, 11:09 AM
I BOW BEFORE YOU AND THROW LAURELS AT YOUR FEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

This is my favourite episode. I remember when it was originally broadcast. I recorded it on audio tape, went to my room, and listened to it right after watching it.

As far as I'm concerned my collection is now complete!

(I don't have Experiment in Terra or Judgement Day, but I can live without them, though I admit that I am curious what you did with Return of Lt. Starbuck, the only good episode of Galactica 1980. (Admittedly, the pilot was better than I remember, but the rest of the series was daggit droppings.))

Thank you again! The Lord of Kobol will look kindly on this! :rotf:

David Kerin
February 22nd, 2012, 04:40 PM
Cool!!! Glad you got it and like it!

I'm going to upload Experiment in Terra (uploading now) and later the Return of Starbuck/Judgement Day. Will post links here when they're done. I don't know how long they'll stay on there, so to anyone who wants them get them while they're there.

I do think EiT has some nice subtle additions, which looking back on them I like a lot more of the subtle changes more than the big ones. Less intrusive to the viewer. And if I have a favorite of my edits, one of the top has to be the Return of Starbuck/Judgement Day. A: I got to work in the DeSanto style Viper... B: I think it decently pulls in this episode to an original series timeline, kinda a lost season 2.

The only bad thing about Judgement Day is I made it before the G:1980 DVD release. So its from a VHS source of the episode. Still, I think its plenty watchable. Someday I have to go back and redo that one.

David Kerin
February 22nd, 2012, 05:40 PM
Uploaded Experiment in Terra... its still processing but should be done shortly.

Here's the link:

http://youtu.be/L6u5yNloKaA

Lighthope
February 23rd, 2012, 11:18 AM
Uploaded Experiment in Terra... its still processing but should be done shortly.

Just downloaded it.

Once again, my undying gratitude is yours!!!!

I more than eagerly look forward to you uploading Judgement Day. I am very curious as to what you did to that one.

I have actually just started re-watching the Battlestar Galactica series. Of course, watching the David Kerin edits over the unenhanced versions. All things going well, Gun on Ice Planet Zero is tonight (which I already have, thank you again!!!!).

Reaper
February 23rd, 2012, 04:16 PM
ok, how vdoes one download off of you tube?

Lighthope
February 23rd, 2012, 06:13 PM
ok, how vdoes one download off of you tube?

www.keepvid.com is what I use

David Kerin
February 24th, 2012, 07:57 PM
Uploaded the Return of Starbuck/Judgement Day. As i said before the quality is not as good since its from VHS for the G1980 episode portions, but still watchable. Have to redo that one some day.

http://youtu.be/0wFNdhGOpGk

Senmut
February 24th, 2012, 10:20 PM
I saw the whole GAL80 on DVDs at the Library a while back. That ep would now be available in a better format.
hint, hint...

Punisher454
February 24th, 2012, 11:06 PM
Just finished Judgment Day. Very good edit.
When I originally watched this as a kid it didnt occur to me that the three centurions had provided Starbuck a perfectly functional Raider. This did occur to me a few years ago while thinking about this episode, I see I'm not the only one.

Anyhow I like what you did with it.
I used to have a copy of your re-edit of LPOG, but I lost that in a hard drive crash.

Senmut
February 25th, 2012, 01:27 AM
Presumably, once in space, SB could send out a signal, on the Colonial/Viper frequency, and signal the Fleet.

David Kerin
February 25th, 2012, 07:30 AM
I saw the whole GAL80 on DVDs at the Library a while back. That ep would now be available in a better format.
hint, hint...

Oh yeah... as a completist I had to buy the G:1980 DVD set, so I have it at hand. Its just getting the time to dive back into it.

Lighthope
February 25th, 2012, 09:15 PM
Uploaded the Return of Starbuck/Judgement Day. As i said before the quality is not as good since its from VHS for the G1980 episode portions, but still watchable. Have to redo that one some day.

http://youtu.be/0wFNdhGOpGk

/bow /scrape /bow /scrape /bow /scrape

I am completely in your debt! Thank you so much for these uploads! I am currently rewatching the series in order and just finished Young Lords. Next is the first time I'll see your edit of Living Legend. I can't wait to see what you did with Return of Lt. Starbuck

Apolloisall
May 19th, 2013, 05:15 PM
I just watched Dave's Saga Of A Star World, and I'm still shaken it was so amazing!!

Senmut
May 19th, 2013, 10:24 PM
Yup. It's very well done.

PaulGTweed
May 20th, 2013, 06:49 AM
Just finished Judgment Day. Very good edit.
When I originally watched this as a kid it didnt occur to me that the three centurions had provided Starbuck a perfectly functional Raider. This did occur to me a few years ago while thinking about this episode, I see I'm not the only one.

Anyhow I like what you did with it.
I used to have a copy of your re-edit of LPOG, but I lost that in a hard drive crash.

It takes two pilots to fly a Cylon Raider. Apollo said that to Sheba in the Hand of God episode. It could have been a Raider that could also fly without any pilot mentioned from the Gun on Ice Planet Zero novel.

Apolloisall
May 20th, 2013, 10:43 AM
Yup. It's very well done.

Like I told David in a pm, it was pure perfection front to back. Even the little things made a huge impact. The shadowy Egyptian/Mayan etc. images in the explosions during the narration were magnificent! The random flybys by Vipers & Raiders lent depth to the shots, he knew just what FX to leave alone, and which could use a bit of assistance. His added original footage expanded the scope of an already otherwise large story, especially the destruction of the homeworlds, and that shot of the Nomen was BRILLIANT! It's like he got into MY head and saw what I wanted to see in it!!! And cutting out that "precision flying" line was good too! :D

Senmut
May 20th, 2013, 05:00 PM
It takes two pilots to fly a Cylon Raider. Apollo said that to Sheba in the Hand of God episode. It could have been a Raider that could also fly without any pilot mentioned from the Gun on Ice Planet Zero novel.

SB would just say "frack the rules", and try and fly it himself. No question.

David Kerin
May 20th, 2013, 05:27 PM
I always took it that one Cylon is navigation, the second is weapons, and the third in back gives orders. So as long as Starbuck doesn't get into combat he could actually fly the ship.

Apolloisall
May 20th, 2013, 05:32 PM
Just watched Hand Of God, not too much to fix on a nearly perfect episode, but the small additions were nice, better battle at the end, Baltar's raider launch shot, the 'wagling' stuff and a really nice tag of the SOL at the end!!! :salute:

PaulGTweed
May 20th, 2013, 07:51 PM
I always took it that one Cylon is navigation, the second is weapons, and the third in back gives orders. So as long as Starbuck doesn't get into combat he could actually fly the ship.

Starbuck is moving his arms in unison on his position as Apollo is moving his arm in the same direction as Starbuck's. So two have to fly a Raider. One could not fly it alone. Starbuck would be aware of that fact when he co-piloted with Apollo in the Hand of God episode.

Senmut
May 20th, 2013, 09:02 PM
Either fly it out, or die of dehydration/starvation. Starbuck would try, reagrdless. He'd rather go out like a pilot/Warrior, then end up as a mummified skeleton under some alien sandpile.

PaulGTweed
May 21st, 2013, 07:14 AM
Either fly it out, or die of dehydration/starvation. Starbuck would try, reagrdless. He'd rather go out like a pilot/Warrior, then end up as a mummified skeleton under some alien sandpile.
or Starbuck takes the last charge of his lazer pistol and blows his brains out. I prefer that as Starbuck climbs into the Cylon Raider. The Raiders systems detect a human lifeform. Render Starbuck unconscious, The Raider takes off by itself and returns the Colonial Warrior back to its Basestar for interrogation and eventual execution. Starbuck would makes his escape from the Basestar returning to the Colonial fleet.

Senmut
May 21st, 2013, 05:46 PM
And blow the FX budget for the whole season??????????

PaulGTweed
May 21st, 2013, 06:15 PM
And blow the FX budget for the whole season??????????

Galactica:1980 effects budget could have handled an interior of the Cylon Raider and stock footage of the Raider flying toward a Cylon Basestar with an unconscious Starbuck. Starbuck's escape from the Cylons would have happened in another episode.

Senmut
May 22nd, 2013, 11:30 AM
Which the NitWerks weren't going to give us.
My way is, of course, vastly superior! ;)

PaulGTweed
May 23rd, 2013, 07:19 AM
Which the NitWerks weren't going to give us.
My way is, of course, vastly superior! ;)
Your way is non-canonical and not vastly superior. Two pilots have to fly a Cylon Raider is TV series BSG Canon. The Cylon Pilotless Raiders are BSG Canon in the novels by Glen A Larson which are fleshed out versions of the TV Series.

Senmut
May 23rd, 2013, 06:17 PM
Your way is non-canonical and not vastly superior.


Except when it is. :salute:

Toshiro
May 24th, 2013, 01:37 PM
I would like to think a Colonial Warrior with the tech experience to repair a cylon, build an excape vessel with cylon and viper technology, could have easily reconfigured the control systems of a Raider.

Then you would ask why couldn't they do it in HOG. Maybe no time to?
:D
T

Apolloisall
May 24th, 2013, 02:07 PM
Then you would ask why couldn't they do it in HOG. Maybe no time to?
:D
TExactly.:cool:

Punisher454
May 24th, 2013, 09:04 PM
A lot of real world aircraft are supposed to have two or even three person flight crews, but the aircraft can still be flown by 1.

A lot of armored vehicles are the same. For example, a Bradley IFV has a driver, commander and gunner. But it could be operated by one person, you just couldnt move, observe/plan and shoot all at the same time.

PaulGTweed
May 25th, 2013, 08:02 AM
I would like to think a Colonial Warrior with the tech experience to repair a cylon, build an excape vessel with cylon and viper technology, could have easily reconfigured the control systems of a Raider.

Then you would ask why couldn't they do it in HOG. Maybe no time to?
:D
T

Starbuck had a set of instructions to repair Cy. Starbuck was only able to build an escape craft with Cy's help.

PaulGTweed
May 25th, 2013, 08:14 AM
A lot of real world aircraft are supposed to have two or even three person flight crews, but the aircraft can still be flown by 1.

A lot of armored vehicles are the same. For example, a Bradley IFV has a driver, commander and gunner. But it could be operated by one person, you just couldnt move, observe/plan and shoot all at the same time.

Except, this isn't real world aircraft. It's science fiction. Cylon Raiders weren't built by Humans. If the Cylons could build Raiders. They could build a Cylon Raider that can fly itself without a pilot. The Cylon auto pilots would be comparable with Colonial auto pilot tech like C.O.R.A. (Computer Oral Response Activated)

Senmut
May 25th, 2013, 03:57 PM
I would like to think a Colonial Warrior with the tech experience to repair a cylon, build an excape vessel with cylon and viper technology, could have easily reconfigured the control systems of a Raider.

Then you would ask why couldn't they do it in HOG. Maybe no time to?
:D
T

Sadly, the constraints of an hour show. Plus, I suspect the Nitwerk suits would never have understood it, if they'd written that in.
You are right about his tech skills, however. SB could surely have done it.

Senmut
May 25th, 2013, 04:05 PM
Except, this isn't real world aircraft. It's science fiction. Cylon Raiders weren't built by Humans. If the Cylons could build Raiders. They could build a Cylon Raider that can fly itself without a pilot. The Cylon auto pilots would be comparable with Colonial auto pilot tech like C.O.R.A. (Computer Oral Response Activated)

Except that the Cylons build their machines according to their collective mentality. The grunt Centurions are not designed or programmed to act independently. They need to operate in groups, as even Cy said, and of course Red-Eye deferred to the authority figure he believed was a superior, thanks to his damaged brain. The pilots in TROS were seeking a consensus when they crashed. It would never occur to the Cylon mentality to build fighters that way.
That being said, the two consoles are close enough that SB could keep his eyes on the instruments, and fly it out of there. As long as he doesn't have to take it into combat, he can ignore many of the instruments, and still make it out.

PaulGTweed
June 2nd, 2013, 03:35 PM
Except that the Cylons build their machines according to their collective mentality. The grunt Centurions are not designed or programmed to act independently. They need to operate in groups, as even Cy said, and of course Red-Eye deferred to the authority figure he believed was a superior, thanks to his damaged brain. The pilots in TROS were seeking a consensus when they crashed. It would never occur to the Cylon mentality to build fighters that way.
That being said, the two consoles are close enough that SB could keep his eyes on the instruments, and fly it out of there. As long as he doesn't have to take it into combat, he can ignore many of the instruments, and still make it out.
But the two consoles, though close together still require a co-pilot to operate the steering controls and use the accelerator and braking pads on the floors of both consoles. Starbuck would not be able to use the other footpads or second steering controls which he CANNOT IGNORE would need to use both simultaneously to fly the raider. ONE CANNOT FLY A CYLON RAIDER. Unless it was pilotless Cylon Fighter that could fly itself as well as carry crew or prisoners. In that type of fighter, Starbuck would disable any self destruct or tracking devices and reprogram the Cylon auto pilot to fly the ship to the Colonial Fleet.

PaulGTweed
June 2nd, 2013, 03:43 PM
The Cylons could have been transporting a prisoner at the time they found Starbuck and Cy. Starbuck finds the prisoner aboard the fighter. He releases the prisoner and they both fly the fighter back to the Colonial Fleet.

Senmut
June 2nd, 2013, 08:33 PM
You just ain't gonna give up, are yas?