CG Galactica

[Matador]

Here is an update on project I am working on.

Just mostly messing around with scaling and adding just a tad of detail work to see were I am going to go with this.

There is some green stuff highlighting some of the areas in this shot. This will be removed. And yes that's a tiny viper in the scene. Just there for scaling purposes.
http://oqudnw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pcAueM777PLV57QUX8w1ScdWVyRBaBOTt7tb4JBo74o3vv1lxkl2tWhTkeQqXwq6UHkyZslvFmODUKg1WhwTKCQ6OGYVgXBp5/GalacticaP.jpg

Here is another shot of the launch tubes and a Viper along side.
http://oqudnw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pkJ820m2tqUg96ftkjc6ya7aVq75LqozwD6d2B3lkUhVltoRydSNx8NEz-xLvjduD8SuSjjo9ZStzzMQWexPtVP0nUGXujgDG/GalacticaN.jpg

This one just gives a small idea of the scale of Galactica.
http://oqudnw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pKv2pBDYB9A8Guoh62xTS8OjX9YkcYmV7zo_VU0Kjx3BMwvNWV5L9EuLBu8WP0InmPYG6duFlezuArLRYDQS_Fovo_bgC0r1h/GalacticaK.jpg

[Punisher454]

I notice you have openings in the sides of the landing bays above the level of your launch tubes. Do you plan to put laser turrets there?

[gmd3d]

cool .. get ready for the detailing .. thats where the fun and heir loss starts

[Matador]

I notice you have openings in the sides of the landing bays above the level of your launch tubes. Do you plan to put laser turrets there?

Yep, I plan to put some turrets in those spots.

I added some hull plating and lights to the landing bays.

Here is an update of what I've done.

http://oqudnw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pt6icmKlsE3MYwkdg21velR17Q0NHQxjUTEygXNIYEnkMuY8vv1_4UbaoSm75Ujjar2ewUwmk6Jl1yZuuLPhfE0gy-QJxMbCl/GalacticaX5.jpg

Next shot shows some hull detail and Viper for scaling.
http://oqudnw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1ppF9u1OPyKLJSfH2DO-2aVHTYL4DZjpPSeHdZqkV_4wyjlNEQSluau6QyQdrtj-Nb7yOKhXCMWxOK910Zomqog91H9IsuXyVI/GalacticaX1.jpg[/rul]

[url]http://oqudnw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1ppF9u1OPyKLJSfH2DO-2aVHTYL4DZjpPSeHdZqkV_4wyjlNEQSluau6QyQdrtj-Nb7yOKhXCMWxOK910Zomqog91H9IsuXyVI/GalacticaX1.jpg

This shot shows galactica... More work still needs to be done, but this is some of the detail work I've added. And yes... I modeled the Galactica to have opening in both the front and back of landing bay. Maybe work that in to a story or something.
http://oqudnw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pvSUdEsQo21IQeWEoasxCQPd2P5wQo4ZYg9lF39-w8Ve-C3V9zjNif0DirWNqzCw6WFlylPCPD0sXNLwvqEl6y2Unr4aK0UfE/GalacticaX4.jpg

And here is a short video...
http://www.youtube.com/user/danakinobi#p/a/u/0/waTGRiL1WRc

Matador :salute:

[maudib]

Good work, keep it up! I like the forward launch ports on the landing bays. This makes practical sense.:thumbsup:

[Matador]

OK, here is my latest update.

Did some fancy hull plating and added some laser canons as promised.

I also threw in the lights for engine.

Still not done with her yet. But i've been doing some experimenting with hull plating and such.

Very tricky stuff.

Anyhew... Here is the new test results.

http://www.youtube.com/user/danakinobi#p/a/u/0/sWmc1SOBKaU

Regards,
Matador:salute:

Now off to sleep.

[gmd3d]

not bad at all .. good beginning. the Galactica is not an easy ship to build . I know I tried it a few times and have never been happy.

keep going mate

[Matador]

OK... Here is my latest update... Added a few more details and placed the old girl in a star field...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWGrphAtQ8Y

:salute:

[Ramses]

Great work. Cant wait to see the final result.

[ernie90125]

Good clip..........please keep us updated.

[drwatson55]

Looks amazing, it is so worth the wait for the finished result.

[Matador]

Well here is a new sequence I put together... It needs some more editing, but I just wanted something for folks to see.
I want to film some stuff with live actors and green screen, but the green screen thing is going to take some time until I can get some resources together.
Any suggestions anyone?

Here ya'll go.

http://www.youtube.com/danakinobi#p/a/u/0/6c1o6q7z078

[gmd3d]

this might help with the green screen

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-build-cheap-and-portable-green-screen-272187/

[Matador]

this might help with the green screen

Thanks for the link. I checked it out... Very helpful. It will give me something to try.

:salute:

[Matador]

OK, It's been a few months, but I have been working on my CG project/fanfilm.

I created a CG Model of a BaseShip and currently working on modeling a Raider. Should be done with it in the next week or so... Here are some samples.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/BaseShipModel1e.jpg

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/BashipRenderTest3.jpg

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Raider1a.jpg

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Raider1d.jpg

[ernie90125]

Looking forward to seeing more !

[Matador]

Looking forward to seeing more !

OK, here ya go.

Did some more work on the Cylon Raider. More detail will be added later, but this is enough for a cool CG battle scene.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/RaiderMR1d.jpg

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/RaiderMR1c.jpg

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/RaiderMR1b.jpg

:salute:

[Matador]

Here is a short little animation test I did on the Cylon Raider.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFIVbA5Jubs

[gmd3d]

looks good . what program are you using ?

[Matador]

3ds Max for the modeling. Trying out EffectsLab Pro for the lasers. :salute:

[Matador]

Here is an update to an animation sequence I made a couple months ago.

Hope you like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7jFCAdxh-w

Also, I updated the Cylon Raider hull. This one I will be using as the Cylon Leader's Raider.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/RaiderScars1c.jpg

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/RaiderScars1a.jpg

[Matador]

So I've been doing my homwork and found a nice way to create a better star field.

Here is the result.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/galacticaStarTest3.jpg

OK, off to bed now.
:salute:

[Matador]

OK. So here is an updated animation sequence. Just testing things out, so there is a lot of detail missing from Galactica.

Hope you like.

http://www.youtube.com/user/danakinobi?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/ZWHyNxPIMgU


:salute:

[Andromeda]

Hello, had at look at all your work start to now
looking very good, I like the ion drive effect you made with the
battlestar engines, nice work with the viper launch
will be watching this thread :)

cheers :salute:

[Senmut]

The blast doors that close behind the Vipers before launch is a nice touch.

[Matador]

The blast doors that close behind the Vipers before launch is a nice touch.

Thanks... I always felt that it was something that they would have added in the show if they had the time and money.

Please keep watching. More to come. :salute:

[gmd3d]

The blast doors that close behind the Vipers before launch is a nice touch.

I like the idea too

[Andromeda]

I like your raider, looks tuff :D

[Matador]

I like your raider, looks tuff :D

Thanks... Andromeda

I added some lights to Galacitca. I'm working on beacon lights too.

Oh and thanks for the tip Taranis

:salute:

[Andromeda]

lights definitely added to the effect nicely, something i haven't done myself

cheers

[Matador]

Well, I decided to start over from scratch my model of Galactica.

I'm going to try and add better detail and actually try to model her more accurately.
But trying to juggle a full time job and being a parent of two, kinda cuts into my fun time.
I work all day on computers, just to come home and do it again. You get were I'm going.
Maybe I should move my computer to the garage. I can then have my Cigar and model at the same time. Hmmmm:/:
Anyhew, I sort of quickly created my new CG Galactica.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011c.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011c.jpg)

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011A.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011A.jpg)

I'm currently working on the detail of the hull plating and all the little things that go around the hull.
I've learned a few new texturing techniques... So I will be appling those as I go.

She may not be as accruate as I would like, but due to time constraints and me being impatient and wanting to animate right away.
Maybe, one day, I can be a big time movie producer... I can then consentrate of modeling full time. Whew, that would be cool!:rotf:

:salute:

[gmd3d]

Well, I decided to start over from scratch my model of Galactica.

I'm going to try and add better detail and actually try to model her more accurately.
But trying to juggle a full time job and being a parent of two, kinda cuts into my fun time.
I work all day on computers, just to come home and do it again. You get were I'm going.
Maybe I should move my computer to the garage. I can then have my Cigar and model at the same time. Hmmmm:/:
Anyhew, I sort of quickly created my new CG Galactica.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011c.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011c.jpg)

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011A.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011A.jpg)

I'm currently working on the detail of the hull plating and all the little things that go around the hull.
I've learned a few new texturing techniques... So I will be appling those as I go.

She may not be as accruate as I would like, but due to time constraints and me being impatient and wanting to animate right away.
Maybe, one day, I can be a big time movie producer... I can then consentrate of modeling full time. Whew, that would be cool!:rotf:

:salute:
the new one looks better ..

but still not quite right if you want to be more accurate ... what refs are you using ...... and remind me again what program your using :)

[maudib]

I know how you feel trying to find some quality time to sit down at the computer and do modeling. I personally use the hours of time usually spent (wasted) watching mindless TV shows ( excluding BSG of course) to work on my model. You have some good ideas on your models, don't rush the project.

[Matador]

the new one looks better ..

and remind me again what program your using :)

I'm using 3ds Max.

Your right about it not being accurate... I googled some blueprints and just saved a couple of the blueprints that first popped up. and used those as reference.
Because i'm a bit impatient... I just created a low poly model and through on some texture maps.

I'm really looking into lightwave.:salute:

[Andromeda]

computer in the garage, sounds like a good idea :)

Have you got the studio model reference pics, there's about 500 photos of the original studio model somewhere for download cant remember where the site was.

look forward to seeing the rebuild :)

cheers

[gmd3d]

I'm using 3ds Max.

Your right about it not being accurate... I googled some blueprints and just saved a couple of the blueprints that first popped up. and used those as reference.
Because i'm a bit impatient... I just created a low poly model and through on some texture maps.

I'm really looking into lightwave.:salute:

computer in the garage, sounds like a good idea :)

Have you got the studio model reference pics, there's about 500 photos of the original studio model somewhere for download cant remember where the site was.

look forward to seeing the rebuild :)

cheers
I can understand that :) but I have learned to spend time getting the over all shape right as I can.. it save the pain later :)

here are some links ,, first up is the bast Reference your going to find. for BSG.... by one of our member here 137th Gebirg aka Jim Stevenson
http://www.shipschematics.net/bsg/images/colonial/battlestar_nova.jpg

Public Domain Pictures of the Big G
http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=4124

you can download lightwave and try it out for a month ..

[Matador]

Here is an update on my CG Galactica.

I started adding some detail to the hull... Just using my imagination.

Thanks Taranus for the reference pics... Very helpful.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011d.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011d.jpg):salute:

[gmd3d]

Here is an update on my CG Galactica.

I started adding some detail to the hull... Just using my imagination.

Thanks Taranus for the reference pics... Very helpful.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011d.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011d.jpg):salute:

any time ..

and its Taranis not Taranus ... :)

[Matador]

oops, my bad Taranis.

It was a late night and I didn't pay attention to what I was typing.

Anyhew, I've been spending a couple days creating "stuff". Little things for the hull, to give it a busy look.
I'll probably fill in the rest with some greebles. But in the mean time. Here she is.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011e.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011e.jpg)


http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011g.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011g.jpg)

I also made a turbo laser to go with my laser cannon.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011f.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=Gal2011f.jpg)

[gmd3d]

No problem ....... the updates look good ,, the cannons add nicely to the scale

[Matador]

No problem ....... the updates look good ,, the cannons add nicely to the scale

Hey Thanks... Nice to know my work is appreciated. I just wish I could spend more time doing it.

Here is my latest update. I threw on more detail and started working on the rear reactors.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011h.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011h.jpg)

[gmd3d]

ah your tackling the pipes and other bits and pieces :)

[Matador]

Well I created the reactor lines. They aren't pretty, but I don't think the ones from the original were either. :/:

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011m.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011m.jpg)

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011n.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011n.jpg)

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011l.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011l.jpg)

Think I'll take a break for a couple days, then get back on it. :salute:

[Limerickcot]

It is nice. But shouldn't that central strut on the pods be lower down the hull side?

[Matador]

shouldn't that central strut on the pods be lower down the hull side?

Your right... It is...

I was going to fix that later... Currently I'm focusing on Hull detail. I'll probably get to fixing that over the weekend.
Pretty easy to fix, but I'm going to have to redo my UV mapping. Anytime I make a change to the mesh like that, it throws off the texture mapping. :/:

Thanks.
:salute:

[Matador]

OK... So I did some tinkering... And I think I've got the hull plating down.

Oh and no... I haven't lowered the center arm connection yet.

It's all about greebles baby!

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTi.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTi.jpg)
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTk.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTk.jpg)
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTJ.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTJ.jpg)
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTh.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTh.jpg)

There are some places that I haven't assigned materials or texture mapped yet... So they look blank. No worries... They will eventually be filled in.

I'm re-doing the turbo laser... Adding a fancy pivot point to them. :D

[gmd3d]

looks good the new details

[Matador]

Here is an update on my girl.

First image here shows some detail I added to the control tower, but color was wrong.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTo.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTo.jpg)
Second is a longer shot... Just wanted to show detail of the engines and what not.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTq.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTq.jpg)
Third, I corrected color of the control tower.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTr.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTr.jpg)
Fourth, shows close up of detail on control tower/command center
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011DTs.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011DTs.jpg)


I know she isn't exactly the one on the show... I suppose if I had the time I would make her exactly like on the show. But I figured that I've already seen it done exactly like the one on the show and I wanted to add my own artistic take on the old girl.
I set the launch tubes below the landing deck.

[gmd3d]

I know she isn't exactly the one on the show... I suppose if I had the time I would make her exactly like on the show. But I figured that I've already seen it done exactly like the one on the show and I wanted to add my own artistic take on the old girl.
I set the launch tubes below the landing deck.

looks great big improvement , I like that you have the launch tubes below the deck too .. its how I always thought it should be

[Matador]

looks great big improvement , I like that you have the launch tubes below the deck too .. its how I always thought it should be

Thanks... Yeah, I agree, I like having the launch tubes down a deck or two. I'm going to spend the weekend working on creating the landing deck and bay doors.

Wish me luck:salute:

[gmd3d]

Thanks... Yeah, I agree, I like having the launch tubes down a deck or two. I'm going to spend the weekend working on creating the landing deck and bay doors.

Wish me luck:salute:

Good luck :)

[Matador]

Here is update on my project. I'm pretty much done with my version of Galactica...
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_Grey1a-1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_Grey1a-1.jpg)

I'm now working on the landing bay detail. I borrowed some ideas from Taranis's version. Oh and thanks Taranis for the tips. This is the landing deck, the launch tubes and service bay are going to be bellow deck.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1a.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1a.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1b.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1b.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1c.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1c.jpg)

First verison was basic modeling. Just to get the idea and shapes into place. The other two are textured with some lighting.

[gmd3d]

Here is update on my project. I'm pretty much done with my version of Galactica...
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_Grey1a-1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_Grey1a-1.jpg)

I'm now working on the landing bay detail. I borrowed some ideas from Taranis's version. Oh and thanks Taranis for the tips. This is the landing deck, the launch tubes and service bay are going to be bellow deck.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1a.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1a.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1b.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1b.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1c.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1c.jpg)

First verison was basic modeling. Just to get the idea and shapes into place. The other two are textured with some lighting.

Good to see a new Galactica design been made....

No prob on the tips there free and disposable if not useful to you.. are you going to add more pipes and tubes to the ceiling area .. it starting to look good and busy there ...

[Matador]

.. are you going to add more pipes and tubes to the ceiling area .. it starting to look good and busy there ...


Yes... I'll be adding more pipes... I got hung up on the lighting... I was trying to figure out how I wanted to go about lighting the scene.

Setting up the pipes is tricky... I really had to figure out were I wanted to put them to give that busy look, but also I want to give them a functional look as well.

[gmd3d]

cool that the hard part I found

[Andromeda]

you've been busy since i last looked. the G is looking good.
landing bays looking good also. what lighting are you using for your bays

cheers

[Matador]

what lighting are you using for your bays


For now I'm just using omni lights... I thought about using volume light to give it a bit of effect, but I'm still debating on what lighting to use.
I picked Omni for now because it was quick and the shadows it casts reminded me of when I used to work in a garage.

More than likely I'll be throwing in some more lighting and detail. I just wanted to through something in for now.

Thanks for the compliments and thanks for the advise you gave regarding the greebles and what not.

Cheers:salute:

[Limerickcot]

Oh, but you've done this nicely.

[Matador]

Oh, but you've done this nicely.


Thanks... Here is an update... I've been fooling around with the lighting, tyring to get more dramatic lighting...

I also added a few extra details in the texture of the landing strip and I put little caution stripes on the floor. They aren't quite right, but I'll fix it later.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1d.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1d.jpg)

I've got few days off for the holidays, so I'm going to be adding more stuff, like service elevators.:salute:

[gmd3d]

not bad at all .. keep them coming .

its a interesting direction you taking this

[Matador]

Just a quick update.

I threw in some vipers and shuttle for reference to scale.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1e.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1e.jpg)

[Matador]

Well I was able to create a new airlock door. I put a shuttle in front of it to help with the scaling.
I also added more lights and small details to the landing bay.



http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1h.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1h.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1j-1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1j-1.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1k.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1k.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1o.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1o.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1m.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1m.jpg)
The following pictures, I ended up adding some lights to the enterance and exit of the landing deck. The exit was not in the original series. I just wanted to add it because I always felt it belonged there. Just in case cylons were covering one of the openings.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1r.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1r.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1q.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1q.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1s.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1s.jpg)


Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

:salute:

[Matador]

Here is a close up of the Landing bay control tower.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1u.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1u.jpg)


Now I'm just working on the crane system.

Will start some animation soon.

[martok2112]

Holy moley, Matador! That is some truly awesome stuff!!! WOW! Keep it up! :) :salute:

[Apolloisall]

Here is a close up of the Landing bay control tower.

Wow! Very cool stuff. Nicely lit.

[Matador]

Hey thanks...

Nice to know someone likes my work. I'm taking a couple days off from my project, but I'm currently working on detailing the crane system and I'll be adding some more details, like elevator lifts.

The launch tubes are going to be one deck below the landing bay.

Once I get things together, I'll do some animation tests.

Thanks again.:salute:

[martok2112]

Hey thanks...

Nice to know someone likes my work. I'm taking a couple days off from my project, but I'm currently working on detailing the crane system and I'll be adding some more details, like elevator lifts.

The launch tubes are going to be one deck below the landing bay.

Once I get things together, I'll do some animation tests.

Thanks again.:salute:

I see that great minds think alike...and so do ours. :D
I too have made the launch tubes sit one deck below the recovery deck on my battlestar. It only makes sense. How else does one explain the long launch tubes that seem to sit on the same level as the recovery deck? Your battlestar decks look awesome.

One area in which we differ on our approach is that while you have the landing control area set inboard on the recovery deck ....looks like it terminates at where the troop conveyor tube runs along the lower axis of the ship. Nice approach, Matador.

For me, my control area sits just above the entrance of the recovery deck.

In any case, very, very well done on your works thus far.
I am about to finish my Colonial Viper, which will make about the fourth or fifth model I've done in Blender in just the last week.

Keep up the good work, Matador! :salute:

[Matador]

One area in which we differ on our approach is that while you have the landing control area set inboard on the recovery deck ....looks like it terminates at where the troop conveyor tube runs along the lower axis of the ship.

Thanks martok...

I've always debated in my own mind were the control tower should be... I got the idea from aircraft carriers and plus I saw Taranis's version and I decided to stick with it.
I always figured the troop conveyor would run in the area in the middle of the ship. That funny cross section that you can barely see. But was there...
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_galactica_10arrow1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/galactica_10arrow1.jpg) Although this was actually used to hide the support for the acutal model. I always imagined it served as a way to move stuff from one end of ship to another. So I kepted it in my model.

I used that section in my model and this will be used for the troop transport and also how they move the ships from one side of Galactica to the other.
That tunnel will eventually lead to a storage bay... A safe place to keep extra vipers, shuttles, and spare parts in the belly of Galactica.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Punisher454]

Yes I ageree, I'm currently trying to model the galactica interior, and thats what I have in that area of the ship. I have a very large passageway that could accommodate shuttlecraft moving both directions. near the top of this lateral support is what I call the "warrior tube" tunnel. I see this as a way to move ships from side to side as well as the transport of large amounts of cargo and equipment. On something like the galactica I would expect some very large pieces of equipment would occasionally need to be replaced. A ship this large would also need some large cargo hold areas.

[martok2112]

Exactly, guys. :)
We seem to have the same thoughts in regard to that big cross beam that runs under the ship....I thought I'd seen somewhere that the superstructure directly underneath the battlestar's main hull was the pilot/troop barracks....so we are definitely on the right track...or at least, on a common track. :)

Keep up the great work, guys. :salute:

[Apolloisall]

Exactly, guys. :)
We seem to have the same thoughts in regard to that big cross beam that runs under the ship....

It's the tunnel that the warriors got to their Vipers through, IMO.

[Matador]

Cool, gload I'm not the only one that noticed the cross section.
It used to always catch my eye and wondered if this was supposed to be noticed by the original special effects guy or if they were trying to desguise it.
Either way, it always made sense to me that it was some type of access tunnel between the mid ship and other landing bay.

Can't wait to do some modeling of the access tunnel.

[martok2112]

I had done a setup of the pilot tunnel with the truck that was supposed to convey them from the barracks to the launch bays....unfortunately, iClone tends to bog down after I put so many avatars in the truck. (Avatars are heavy in face/poly count).

[Matador]

iClone tends to bog down after I put so many avatars in the truck. (Avatars are heavy in face/poly count).

Hey Martok, I was just checking out iclone. Is that a good program for creating characters.

I want to create pilots and crew members for my scenes. Is that program compatible with 3ds max?

I've been shopping around for a program to create people fairly quickly so that I don't have to spend too much time modeling them.

Any suggestions?

[Punisher454]

It's the tunnel that the warriors got to their Vipers through, IMO.

The little corridor(tube) that the pilots take to rapidly get to the launching bays is VERY small compared to the size of this external feature of the hull. Its BIG, the warrior tube only occupies a TINY fraction if this.

I am placing the pilots quarters in the forward part of the central block of the ship. these "lower" areas I am using for cargo and equipment.

[martok2112]

Hey Martok, I was just checking out iclone. Is that a good program for creating characters.

I want to create pilots and crew members for my scenes. Is that program compatible with 3ds max?

I've been shopping around for a program to create people fairly quickly so that I don't have to spend too much time modeling them.

Any suggestions?

iClone can use models created in 3DS MAX, but you have to buy a second program that can convert .3DS models into iClone models, called 3DEXchange (another Reallusion product).

3DEXChange can convert .obj and .3DS files into iClone usable models, and it can also take iClone models and characters and convert them into .obj to export to external 3D programs that use .obj files.

The thing is, with iClone, you have base characters (characters that have a basic casual clothing mesh for which to design costumes) already in the program. You usually get a male (Jack) and a female (Jane). With iClone, you can create their costumes (different costume types may require different clothing meshes/bases to be purchased from their Backstage store site). You can also morph any face you wish onto the iClone characters directly in the program. You can take a photograph of anyone(as long as it is a good, straight into the camera, expressionless photo) and graft that face onto the avatar. (I use a lot of celebrity likenesses for my characters. For the role of new character Lt. Shaen, I used Natalie Portman's image. For Sheba, I used Eliza Dushku's. And for Athena's I used Ellen Page.) Thankfully, they're lifelike, but not so hyper-accurate that you can say: "Hey, that's so-and-so!" Even if their photo is slightly off angle, you can make adjustments. iClone is an extremely flexible character design and animation tool.

An external 3D modeling program is best used for fashioning props and accessories for your characters. I mean, you can make props for your characters in iClone, but they end up being block models for the most part. With a powerful external editor like .3DS Max or Blender, you can make much more detailed and accurized props. I used Blender to create the Viper pilot's helmet (my iClone version looked okay, but you could tell it was thrown together), and the chromium armor for the Cylon Centurions. I had made Centurions in iClone, but they looked too cartoony...at least my current ones look a little more menacing, and a little less like the characters in the "Money for Nothing" video by Dire Straits. LOL! All I did was fashion the armor (I converted/exported a male character from iClone over to Blender so that I could properly shape the armor, and then converted/exported the armor back into iClone--again, for conversion from one to the other, you need 3DEXchange-- and applied a reflection texture, and attached the armor to a solid black male nude character since that would represent the skin tight wrap underneath the armor, I'll do the same thing when I get down to creating Imperial Stormtroopers.) When you attach an object to a character, that object immediately is considered an "accessory", and you can save it as such in iClone. When all your armor is in place and linked, you can save the avatar as a Cylon Centurion.

I also plan on making actual gunbelts and better looking blaster pistols for the Colonial Warriors.

Anyhoo...that's my thesis on the benefits of making characters within iClone. :)

[martok2112]

The little corridor(tube) that the pilots take to rapidly get to the launching bays is VERY small compared to the size of this external feature of the hull. Its BIG, the warrior tube only occupies a TINY fraction if this.

I am placing the pilots quarters in the forward part of the central block of the ship. these "lower" areas I am using for cargo and equipment.

Oh, absolutely....there's no way the tunnels are THAT large. :)

But that is also a good idea there regarding the underside superstructure on the Galactica, being a cargo storage unit. :) Then again, it's quite possible that the pilot barracks and cargo storage are all in the same superstructure. I mean, that area alone is just way too large to entirely be barracks for the ship's entire compliment of fighter pilots. :)

[Punisher454]

But that is also a good idea there regarding the underside superstructure on the Galactica, being a cargo storage unit. Then again, it's quite possible that the pilot barracks and cargo storage are all in the same superstructure. I mean, that area alone is just way too large to entirely be barracks for the ship's entire compliment of fighter pilots.

Have you ever looked at the Star Trek Constitution class heavy cruiser(TOS enterprise) deck plans? they are mainly loaded with crew quarters everywhere, along with briefing rooms, rec rooms, gymnasium, transporter rooms etc... right out to the edge of the hull. On those plans there is very little internal volume of the ship taken up by equipment and structure. I picture the Colonial Battlestar as being exactly the opposite. Mostly hardware, with areas for crew placed in where they can fit. Like a battleship, aircraft carrier or submarine.
I also think that the purpose of a battlestar is not exactly the equivalent of an aircraft carrier. I picture it as a multi-role do-everything ship. The battlestar deploys fighters like an aircraft carrier, but it then can directly engage enemy capitol ships, like a battleship. I believe the battlestar would also be used for transporting/deploying several thousand troops. We see the same thing in star-wars and even the "Starship Troopers" movie.

[martok2112]

Have you ever looked at the Star Trek Constitution class heavy cruiser(TOS enterprise) deck plans? they are mainly loaded with crew quarters everywhere, along with briefing rooms, rec rooms, gymnasium, transporter rooms etc... right out to the edge of the hull. On those plans there is very little internal volume of the ship taken up by equipment and structure. I picture the Colonial Battlestar as being exactly the opposite. Mostly hardware, with areas for crew placed in where they can fit. Like a battleship, aircraft carrier or submarine.
I also think that the purpose of a battlestar is not exactly the equivalent of an aircraft carrier. I picture it as a multi-role do-everything ship. The battlestar deploys fighters like an aircraft carrier, but it then can directly engage enemy capitol ships, like a battleship. I believe the battlestar would also be used for transporting/deploying several thousand troops. We see the same thing in star-wars and even the "Starship Troopers" movie.

Agreed on all points, my friend. :salute:

[Matador]

I picture it as a multi-role do-everything ship. The battlestar deploys fighters like an aircraft carrier, but it then can directly engage enemy capitol ships, like a battleship.

I agree. The Battlestars were just massive multi-roll base ships. They also transported people from the high counsels... Like the 12 reps from each colony in the pilot episode "saga of star world".

[Matador]

Howdy... I'm taking a break from Galacitca, but started working on making some pilots and ground crew.

This is my first CG Character I'm working on making a uniform for.

I know, I know, he looks like a super hero right now, but I'm just starting and will do some better texturing later.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viperPilot1a.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viperPilot1a.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viperPilot1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viperPilot1.jpg)

:salute:

[martok2112]

Do keep us posted :)

[Andromeda]

holy moly, your kicking some butt, awesome work there

cheers

[gmd3d]

damn that not bad,, better than I have ever done ...

[Matador]

Thanks... Great to have feed back. Yeah I've been spending a few days tinkering with the uniform on my CG dude.
There are a few techniques on how to do this and I'm trying them all. I'm not used to modeling clothing on characters, so this is a new step in my evolution.
I'm trying to perfect it. As usual, trial and error.

I discovered a program called Bonespro 4 for 3ds max. It allows to create muscle tone for characters.
This may change the way I create characters.

[Apolloisall]

I'm old-school physical models.:eek:
Just keep doing your electronic mumbo-jumbo so we can all see the pretty, please!:D

[Punisher454]

If you have max 2011 (I think maybe 2010 also) it has incorporated "CAT" the character animation toolkit. It was a thirdparty character animation tool, now part of max. I think it will do most of what bones pro will.
So far my very limited character modeling experience has taught me That good edgeloops are VERY VERY important for good deformations. Problem areas are the shoulders/armpits, elbows, hips/buttocks/crotch and knees.
Character modeling is the hardest, but i can tell youre a bold modeler and seem to be improving very fast. I'm sure you already know but you can find real nice human reference images at 3d.sk.

[gmd3d]

Thanks... Great to have feed back. Yeah I've been spending a few days tinkering with the uniform on my CG dude.
There are a few techniques on how to do this and I'm trying them all. I'm not used to modeling clothing on characters, so this is a new step in my evolution.
I'm trying to perfect it. As usual, trial and error.

I discovered a program called Bonespro 4 for 3ds max. It allows to create muscle tone for characters.
This may change the way I create characters.

sounds good ,,,, best of luck with it

[gmd3d]

I'm old-school physical models.:eek:
Just keep doing your electronic mumbo-jumbo so we can all see the pretty, please!:D

the only thing I got from physical models. is glued fingers :) lol

[Matador]

When I was a kid I used to love making star ships... I would take the left over parts from my model kits... Like the plastic molding and melt them and use them to make pipes and greebles... That was fun.

Most of them got destroyed because I was busy making my home made star wars movies.

Anyhew, back to CG, I'm working with a modifier in max called "cloth". You add this to your mesh and it simiulates how fabric would react to whatever it's collision target is... In this case, the body of the character. There are different fabrics that you can tell it the mesh will be... Cotton, leather, polyseter... The program will try to mimic how it would react when the charactor is moved.

I'm working on adding the bi-ped skeleton to the character, then skin it. Hopefully I'll have something to show you guys in the next day or so.
:D

[Matador]

Well, I'm now doing some texture tests and so far I've come up with this. I only did the tunic. I took a picture of mine and that's what I used for the texture.

More to come.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_TestPilot1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/TestPilot1.jpg)

This is my first CG Character I've ever made. I'm now experimenting with creating a bone structure.

:salute:

[martok2112]

Looking good there. :)

[Andromeda]

nice work on the tunic, looks the goods

cheers

[Matador]

Here is an update...

I took a short break because of the flu... But I managed to get my character into the launch bay. Just for a test.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_First_Character_RenderTest2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/First_Character_RenderTest2.jpg)
I'll be adding more guys and posing them later.

Also I managed to get a walk sequence in.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Videos/th_WalkTest2.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Videos/?action=view&current=WalkTest2.mp4)
Cheers,
:salute:

[martok2112]

NICE ! :salute:

[Matador]

Well here is my latest update.

I managed to model a little pilot character and animate him. There were several ways to do this. I choose to create my character and merge him into this scene.
It took a bit of trial and error, but managed to figure it out and this is the result I got.

http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Videos/?action=view&current=landingBayTest.mp4

It's only a few seconds long, but took about 12 hours to render. The sequence seems pretty simple, but animating a character is a lot of work. Just creating the character, skinning, then merging him into scene took a lot of trial and error. But now that I've figured the best approach for this. I will be able to create more bodies in the scene, doing background stuff.

[Apolloisall]

Simply stunning, Matador!:salute:

[martok2112]

Very very well done :)

[Matador]

Thanks... Appreciate the feedback. It's crazy the difference adding other objects to a scene, but getting a character into a scene and animating is a hole new ball game...
I really wish I could afford the time and money to take an animation course, but I'm really happy the internet is around.
I've met a lot of cool people here on this forum and on other forums. It's really nice when people take the time to help you out and offer help.
I'm really happy with the progress I've made so far.

So I just want to give a shout-out to all those that have given me feedback and help along the way.

:salute:

[Apolloisall]

I'm really happy with the progress I've made so far.


So say we all!
*ooops!* Wrong incarnation!:eek:
:LOL:

[Matador]

OK... Been a while since I posted anything. I took a short break from my project. But I'm back.

I realized I never added anthing on the nose of my Galactica... So I finally started adding some stuff to fix this.
I borrowed some ideas from the new Galactica series... Mostly just the communications mast and some other greebles.
Anyhew, here is what I have done.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011Nose2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011Nose2.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011Nose1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011Nose1.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011Nose3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011Nose3.jpg)

Cheers,
Matador:salute:

[Thunderstruck]

Looking really good. Can I play with it? :D


btw I posted BSG TOS is back on NBC.

I also noticed, and do not recall seeing many outside lights on Galactica.
But there were a few scenes I have seen on the NBC, that I do not recall
seeing in any recent episodes I have watched.

am unsure if they have added, re edited or embellished some of the footage.

And to my recollection and of models seen, I do not for the life of me remember seeing any "outdoor" lights on the ship. But I did on NBC
channel.

[Matador]

Looking really good. Can I play with it? :D


btw I posted BSG TOS is back on NBC.

I also noticed, and do not recall seeing many outside lights on Galactica.
But there were a few scenes I have seen on the NBC, that I do not recall
seeing in any recent episodes I have watched.

am unsure if they have added, re edited or embellished some of the footage.

And to my recollection and of models seen, I do not for the life of me remember seeing any "outdoor" lights on the ship. But I did on NBC
channel.

Sent me a PM with your email and I can send you the file. It's a 3ds max file.
Yeah, I agree, I don't remember any lights or beacon lights on galactica, only the lights coming out of windows and the main engines.
I'll probably add some to my version, just for cool effects and also adding lights to the landing pods.

I don't remember hearing about TOS Galactica being back on NBC. I'll have to research that.

[Matador]

Well here is my version of an opening sequence, if I ever got to produce my own Galactica show.

I put together some footage from difference scenes I've been working on. This is still a work in progress.

There is a quick scene that shows the guns moving around. But I haven't had a chance to add the laser effects.

Eventually I will refine the scenes with better shots of Galactica. But for now. Just pretend it's a Thursday night and your sitting down to watch another great episode of Battlestar Galactica.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_GalacticaTitleSeq.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=GalacticaTitleSeq.mp4)

[Limerickcot]

Quite enjoyed that. Thanks

[martok2112]

Yes, that was very cool!

[Apolloisall]

Well here is my version of an opening sequence, if I ever got to produce my own Galactica show.



*Applauds* :salute:
Yes, it was great. If it gets much better I may pass out.:LOL:

[maudib]

I'm studying your formation fly-along sequence with the camera shake. I was surprised how good it looked.

[Matador]

Thanks for the compliments and for watching. It's crazy how much work is involved in creating scenes that are only a few seconds in length.

But it's all worth it in the end.

Like I mentioned, I'll be doing more refinements and putting some other scenes together, then adding effects... It's the rendering time that's the killer. A couple of those shots took two days to render.

Regarding the formation flying... There is a really cool tutorial on youtube that gives instructions on how to create that scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGcToM_DyKU

I used almost the same exact instructions to create that formation flying. The tutorial is for 3ds max and the guy talks really quick. So you'll probably end up pausing and rewinding a lot to take notes.

Once again, thanks for watching... There is more to come. :salute:

[Thunderstruck]

That was Great !!

And don't I know it- render times on some can kill your motivation LOL.

Took me a moment to figure out it was a video too :D


Really loved those interior shots. The Engine Exhaust lights (vipers)were too cool too. The launch bay launching. All great.

MAkes me want to keep making CGI BSG shorts. I really need to learn more to create better scenes.

Also, watched some of that tube link. Have 3ds but have not really used it or get into it, I cant get past all the symbols. But the basic principals are
the same as c4d, I just think C4d is easier to learn and use.
Not to mention it loads up 10x faster and typically renders a lot faster
even on this 8 year P4 Dell.

Again, Nice stuff, should be on tube,vimeo,daily imo.

[Matador]

I'm currently working on refiniing my title sequence.


In one of the scenes in the sequence, there is a shot of the laser canons firing.
all you see is movement, but no lasers.

Well I'm currently working on adding that.

One frame at a time. The process is tedious, but I'm getting there.

Here is a preview of it.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_GalacticaCanonFire.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=GalacticaCanonFire.mp4)

Still working on it... Stay tuned.:yikes:

[Thunderstruck]

I'm currently working on refiniing my title sequence.


In one of the scenes in the sequence, there is a shot of the laser canons firing.
all you see is movement, but no lasers.

Well I'm currently working on adding that.

One frame at a time. The process is tedious, but I'm getting there.

Here is a preview of it.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_GalacticaCanonFire.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=GalacticaCanonFire.mp4)

Still working on it... Stay tuned.:yikes:



Am curious, 1 frame at a time? how are you doing this?
app? that seems too tedious.

I have been using standard emitters (with a shaped visible light)in C4d- have not tried using AE for it but am also looking into using the Thinking particle system also in C4d. I am still just beginner at this but doing it 1 frame at a time?

That really just does not seem to be an effective way of doing it. are other ways also using geometry.

[Matador]

Am curious, 1 frame at a time? how are you doing this?
app? that seems too tedious.

I'm using a program called FXlab Pro.
http://fxhome.com/effectslab-pro

I exaggerated a bit... It's more like setting start and stop postions and then going back a few frames to make sure that the laser effects goes the correct direction.

It's a post production type thing.

I thought about just modeling laser beams and putting them into the scene, but I really like the laser effect that the fxLb pro produces. Plus I can match it up with some of the lasers I use for my live action shots.

Honestly I haven't really done much research into creating laser fire for my scene. I'm sure there is a much easier method... I'm just using tools I currently have an know.

[Thunderstruck]

I'm using a program called FXlab Pro.
http://fxhome.com/effectslab-pro

I exaggerated a bit... It's more like setting start and stop postions and then going back a few frames to make sure that the laser effects goes the correct direction.

It's a post production type thing.

I thought about just modeling laser beams and putting them into the scene, but I really like the laser effect that the fxLb pro produces. Plus I can match it up with some of the lasers I use for my live action shots.

Honestly I haven't really done much research into creating laser fire for my scene. I'm sure there is a much easier method... I'm just using tools I currently have an know.


lol, I am sure there are easier ways than I am using too-
am experimenting with the thinking particles and I just now think I got
it set. with these, they will emit lights(lasers) exactly where the null-emitter is, unlike the regular emitter, was random and increased speed really made it hard to use.

I try and do it all in app (c4d) till I learn of using post effects or compositing methods. for myself, making it all in 3d in a physical way
is really the only way I know how to do it.


so this way no matter how the object moves, or whatever the speed of it or the speed of particles it will be right on. will have a vid- or gif on Galactica Max thread soon of it.

have not heard of that app.

keep it up. look forward to more.

[Matador]

OK, so here is the new version of the title sequence... Really the only change is that I added the lasers to the laser canon sequence.

Hope you like...

Just click on the picture below to see the video.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_GalacticaTitleSeq2.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=GalacticaTitleSeq2.mp4)


People were emailing me and telling me that they didn't know it was a video. So that's why I added the "click on the picture to see video" thing.:salute:

[Thunderstruck]

Am not getting, seeing any video just Photobucket page...

[Matador]

I posted it on youtube too.

So try this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmo_qzp2v9g

:/:

[Matador]

Here are some stills of my Galactica. I meant to post them a couple days ago, but my photobucket site was down for a couple days.

Finally up and running.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_BueatyShot.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_BueatyShot.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_side.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_side.jpg)
Here is the massive Ion propulsion drives.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_GalacticaEngines.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/GalacticaEngines.jpg)

I found a cool video on youtube that shows an Ion drive test.
http://youtu.be/GIg6pWwezEU

Here is a video of an ION drive on a Viper.
http://www.youtube.com/danakinobi#p/u/9/6c1o6q7z078
:salute:

[Apolloisall]

Hey Matador, real nice, but why the red stripes on the head section? Is it a different Nova class?
Whatever- it's better than I could do in yahrens of Cinema 4D classes!:salute:

[Matador]

Hey Matador, real nice, but why the red stripes on the head section? Is it a different Nova class?
Whatever- it's better than I could do in yahrens of Cinema 4D classes!:salute:

Consider it artistic expression...

Honestly, it was an accident... I was actually experimenting with texturing and I sort of fell in love with the look and stuck with it.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Gal2011Nose2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Gal2011Nose2.jpg)

I thought I had seen this on the original model, but I must have just imagined it.

I just wanted to put my own spin on it. If I was making a serious TV series, I probably would focus more on the actual detail. I do plan to make some short web-a-sodes and maybe have some of my friends do some green screen stuff. But all in due time.:salute:

[Thunderstruck]

pretty cool. I thought I had seen this before but the Viper Thrusters were red?

I like that light effect and love the launch bay-tube scenes.

I also made a new type of thruster light, is really cool animated but really needs to be on a capital ship. Have not got to use it yet.

Is similar to your galactica but mush tighter in noise and faster and is orange/blackish

[Matador]

Thanks QueenHunter.

If I had all the time in the world I would love to spend more time on detail, but working full time and raising kids, kinda cuts into my hobby time.

Maybe some day I'll get discovered and Glen Larson, or whoever runs the show these days will call me and say "Hey, we want you to make a show for us." I could then round up a team and make things look sweeter than sweet.

But, for now, I'm just throwing things together, because I love animating my scenes. Plus I'm putting together a library of scenes to use to create my web-a-sodes.

Anyhew, I'm working on a scene with Galactica passing through a nebula. It's currently cooking/rendering as I'm typing this.

Here is sort of a screen shot of a test I did. It will look sort of like this:
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_Nova.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_Nova.jpg)

Until then "so say we all!"
:salute:

[Matador]

Here is my first concept animation of Galactica flying out of a Nebula cloud.

This is a first version... I'm not happy with the cloud detail. So I will end up re-doing it.

But here is what it looks like.

(click on the image to see the animation)
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_PassThrough_Nebula.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=PassThrough_Nebula.mp4)

[Andromeda]

Haven't signed on in a while good thing i did
your improving in leaps and bounds ....
detail you've added to the nose looks really cool and fits (i think)
with the era. :salute:

[Matador]

Haven't signed on in a while good thing i did
your improving in leaps and bounds ....
detail you've added to the nose looks really cool and fits (i think)
with the era. :salute:

Thanks Andromeda... I owe it to lots and lots of research, youtube, and forums... I've met a lot of cool people along the way and I've been amazed at how helpful everyone has been.

I got the nose idea from a combination of the New Galactica series and from pictures of current coning towers on ships...
I'm trying my best to give all my greebles on the ship functionality. I'm just wierd that way.

Anyhew, there's more to come, so keep on checking in.:salute:

[Matador]

Hi all... Had to take a break from my project to help out a buddy and also complete a video editing job.

Anyhew, I've been wanting to create a view from inside the Viper cockpit type thing.
Here is my first concept of it.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_CockpitView.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/CockpitView.jpg)

There is still more work to do. But I like the slight reflection in the glass. That was a cool unexpected result I got from using a small backlight inside the cockpit.

:salute:

[Apolloisall]

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_CockpitView.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/CockpitView.jpg)

Sweeeet.

[Matador]

Thanks.

I'm working on the cockpit detail. I eventually want to have an animated dash board and lights.

I will search for some reference pics of the cockpits and see what I can create.

I'm currently working on creating an animated display for the cockpit. This is a new trick for me. So I'm hoping it works out. stay tuned.:salute:

[martok2112]

Nice. Looks like a combination of both the original series and new series Viper cockpit interiors. :)

[Matador]

Your right... I had a copy of the Dradis display and pasted it on my model, just to have something there.

I'll probably change it around later... I just wanted something to have as reference.

I'm currently working on a switch bank and some indicators that blink. Lots and lots of work.

Eventually I'll animate a flyby or something.

[Andromeda]

Looking good
Nice effect with the reflecting, gives it a real feel.
cheers

[Matador]

Here is a small update.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viperCockpit2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viperCockpit2.jpg)

Added a little detail to the frame of the cockpit window.

Still working on the Displays and what-not. Probably have something done by the weekend. :salute:

[Matador]

So I'm working on adding display panels and other suff. This again still needs some fine tuning.
I just wanted to get an idea where stuff may or may not go. Eventually there will be some animation of the screen.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viperCockpit3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viperCockpit3.jpg)

[Apolloisall]

No power in the 'Verse can stop you!:salute:

[Andromeda]

Show off ;)
Seriously, that's looking good.:salute:
cheers

[Matador]

Thanks,

I'm still working on fixing up the displays to make them look more realistic. I'm also working with adobe aftereffects to help create the miscellaneous screen jargin and radar functions going on in the background.

Not sure how long that will take me. But should be interesting.

[Matador]

Well, here is my first animation test of the Screen displays and the Dradis.

It's only a few seconds long, but it gives you the idea where I'm heading on this.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_CockpitAnimationTest.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=CockpitAnimationTest.mp4)

[Matador]

Here is an update to the cockpit. I animated a few more screeens and made it a few seconds longer.

I'm currently in processing of upgrading the computer and reloading my OS. I've also got a few projects I'm working on.

Eventually I will have a full animated landing sequence. But for now, here is the update.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_CockpitAnimationTest2.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=CockpitAnimationTest2.mp4)

[Apolloisall]

That's great, but how can be so obsessed over this? You don't see ME constantly refining some thing I've made from BSG over & over...



:duck::rotf:

[Matador]

That's great, but how can be so obsessed over this? You don't see ME constantly refining some thing I've made from BSG over & over...



:duck::rotf:

To each there own and because I can. I really wouldn't worry to much about it.

Anhew,
I've revamped the cockpit and changed the material... I wanted something less cartoonie.

I'm currently rendering and animating the landing sequence, but here is a preview of what I've done.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandingLight_test.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandingLight_test.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_CockpitAnimationTest3-1.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=CockpitAnimationTest3-1.mp4)

[Apolloisall]

To each there own and because I can. I really wouldn't worry to much about it.



Ahhh, the joke didn't come across too well...:/:
Thing is that I'm about to start a whole new round of Vipers- even better than the last batch! That's the thing I do over & over!!!:rotf:

[auditor]

Nice I really like how the cockpit displays are coming. Looking good.

[martok2112]

Lookin' good there, Senor Matador. :)

[Matador]

Hello all,

Finally completed rendering my viper landing scene. This scene took me about a week to render...

I had to render about 300 frames at a time, as to not crash my program. But I managed to stich the frames together.

Anyhew... Here it is.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_ViperLanding.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=ViperLanding.mp4)

Yeah, the sound effects need some working and fine tuning.

:salute:

[Apolloisall]

Very impressive, Mat!!!!:thumbsup:

[martok2112]

Very cool. Nice sound editing and voice work too. :)

[Andromeda]

Hey thumbs up thats cool., voice, fx nice :)

[Matador]

Thanks for the input... I'm working on a battle seen right now. So stay tuned for that.
:salute:

[Matador]

I'm reworking my "viper landing sequence". Right now the scene is rendering, which is a very agonizingly slow process.
For now, here is a sample of the video in low res/wireframe mode.

http://youtu.be/byW4c8JqVqU

It's similar to my last sequence, but I added a "camera shake" to give an element of realism.

As I mentioned before, the scene is still rendering. So I may be done by next week.

[Apolloisall]

Mat, you are DEFINITELY on to something! It really *feels* realer!!!:salute:

[martok2112]

WOW! Now for a rough cut, that was REALLY cool. Loved the camera sway....very realistic! :)

[Matador]

Thanks for the feed back. I really appreciate it. That scene took days of trial and error.

Animating the approach wasn't too difficult, but adding the camera shake was a hole other ball game. I really had to tinker with the program to get the objects around the camera, not to shake with the camera and vise-versa.

Once I figured it out, I then had to fine tune the amount of random shake. Lots and lots of trial and error.

The scene is still rendering... So it probably won't be done until sometime next week. I wish I had access to the render farm ILM or Pixar uses. What is really slowing things down is the fraking motion blur. It's killing me, but without it the scene just looks too fake and digital. Motion blur really enhances the look and feel.
Like in this scene I made a while back.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_galacticaStarTest3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/galacticaStarTest3.jpg)

It's a single still frame, but you get a sense of speed from the blur of the vipers.

Thanks again all for the support.
Matador:salute:

[Apolloisall]

Thanks again all for the support.
Matador:salute:

No prob, my Warrior bro. Lookin' forward to more!:thumbsup::salute:

[Matador]

Well, I got tired of waiting, so I finished the rendering sooner.

Here is a preview of the Viper Landing sequence, now with the camera shake added.

I'll be making a longer extended scene later. Probably have both some external and internal shots to give it some interest.
Oh and sound effects too.

http://youtu.be/6KJiFJerd-s

:salute:

[Apolloisall]

That was excellent.

[Matador]

I'm taking a break and messing around with some new effects. This was pretty fun.

Here are a couple samples.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Me_landingPad.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Me_landingPad.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Me_landingPad2-1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Me_landingPad2-1.jpg)

[martok2112]

Niiiiice! :)

[Apolloisall]

Fun to be there, eh?
Wait....:blink:

[Andromeda]

Thats really cool :) well done :salute:

I'm taking a break and messing around with some new effects. This was pretty fun.

Here are a couple samples.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Me_landingPad.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Me_landingPad.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Me_landingPad2-1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Me_landingPad2-1.jpg)

[Matador]

Thanks... I working on applying some live action footage of me walking and throughing it into this scene.
Most of the work will be done using my CG program and probably aftereffects for the masking/rotoscoping.

More to come.:salute:

[Andromeda]

look forward to seeing it :)

[Apolloisall]

Me too. It'll be :thumbsup:

[Matador]

Here are two new screen shots of my Viper landing Scene that I hope to start animating soon.

I added some much needed landing lights and better detail of the landing bay.
I also have been playing with "depth of field" effects, to create a better "first person view" of the cockpit.

Hope you all like.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_landingbay.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/landingbay.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_landingbay2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/landingbay2.jpg)

:salute:

[Senmut]

Cockpit looks a bit GINOesque.

[Matador]

Cockpit looks a bit GINOesque.

I guess that's a good thing right?
:D

Anyhew, here is an update of the landing sequence... I'm redoing the scene with the new depth of field effect and landing lights added.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_ViperLanding0000.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/ViperLanding0000.jpg)

:salute:

[Matador]

Hello all,

I'm working on a longer landing scene with some shots with internal and external views of the cockpit. Recently I wanted to add some landing lights and small other details to help the scene out.
I've redone my landing sequence from inside the cockpit. This took about three weeks to render this scene out. Maybe if I rendered the scene smaller, may help... Anyhew, here is what came out of the oven.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_landing3.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=landing3.mp4)
Here are some stills.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_landingbay.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/landingbay.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_ViperLanding0000.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/ViperLanding0000.jpg)

[Matador]

Here is another update... I've been working with motion tracking and I've had a lot of trial and error.

Here is my latest result.

http://youtu.be/bkeM4XdqZXI

or

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_TrackedViper.jpg (http://s833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/?action=view&current=TrackedViper.mp4)

:salute:

[martok2112]

Dude, that was COOL! :)

Was that a model Viper you chroma keyed onto that parking lot? Very convincing, especially with the motion pass. Well done!

[Apolloisall]

LOL!!! That was GREAT!!! :thumbsup:

[Matador]

Dude, that was COOL! :)

Was that a model Viper you chroma keyed onto that parking lot? Very convincing, especially with the motion pass. Well done!


Thanks Martok... That baby is all CG... It's the same CG Viper I used in my earlier videos.
http://youtu.be/6c1o6q7z078

It's also the same cockpit and nose I use for the landing sequence.

I'm glad it looks like a model... That means my CG must be improving.

:salute:

[Apolloisall]

I'm glad it looks like a model... That means my CG must be improving.


Oh yeah, it IS!!! Looked like a model to me as well.:salute:

[Andromeda]

very convincing vid especially how you pass around the the starboard side and that car
in the background tucks in behind. nice one :-)

[martok2112]

Yes, indeed. My hat is off to you! :)

[Matador]

Update... So I'm back to working on a battle scene. Classica cylon raders vs Vipers...
I'm creating some new scenes for this epic battle. I've gone back to my landing back and doing some much, much, much needed work.

So here is a start and I hope to add more soon.

Please keep in mind that everything in this scene is "work-in-progress". The detail on the Vipers are going to be worked on later and so on.
:salute:
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Launchbay1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Launchbay1.jpg)

[martok2112]

Nice job so far on the launch cradles, et al. :)

[Matador]

Here is an update on my re-tooled launch bay... I've added a lanch control box, based a bit from the new sereis... This box does extend into the launch tube, so that the viper can have a finale inspection before launch.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Launchbay2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Launchbay2.jpg)

:salute:

[martok2112]

I always liked that aspect....like a launch officer for each tube.
It was something I was thinking of putting into my own launch bay, but I think I'm gonna go with something more like what we see on a flat top...the guy on the ground who gives the visual inspection and thumbs up to the pilot, and then the pilot does the thumbs up and salute before launching...a la Top Gun. :)

Nice job there! :)

[Matador]

Adding Hanger deck supports. Increasing the Dynamics of the scene.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay3.jpg)

:salute:

[martok2112]

Gorgeous! :)

[Senmut]

Has anyone ever wind-tunnel tested a Viper model? I wonder if a full-sized one, with actual jet engines, could be made to fly?????

[martok2112]

Interesting question.

Although we have had some test aircraft that had rather stubby wings, I don't think they were "take off" capable. They almost always (as far as I know) had to be deployed from larger aircraft.

I don't think a Viper in its current physical configuration could fly, at least atmospherically. In space, you can have a box and make it travel with maneuvering jets, but in atmo it would be about as flight worthy as an elephant.

[Senmut]

I wondered because some planes, e.g. the F-117, look totally unlikely to fly, but do so.
Just curious.

[martok2112]

Hehe ..... good point. :)

In truth, at least the F-117 still seems to possess the characteristics of an airfoil...albeit, a singular foil (like a flying wing).

A Colonial Viper, at least to me (and yes I am FAR from an aerodynamics expert) just looks a bit too.....blocky, and has too small of a wingspan to begin with.

But, like I said, we did have some test aircraft (IIRC) that had very stubby wingspans....but, they still had airfoil characteristics.

Again, I am far from an aerodynamics expert, so, as with all things, take my opinion with a grain of salt....or just take the whole durned shaker. :)

[Matador]

The lockheed f-104 Starfighter flew pretty well with short wing span.

A wind tunnel test would be cool.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30509197/f104-03.jpg

[Matador]

I messed around with some different camera angles... Also I threw in some extra Vipers just to get a feel of density.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay5.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay5.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay4.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay4.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay6.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay6.jpg)

[Punisher454]

Basically for the viper to fly properly you'd have to taper the leading and trailing edges of the wings and add a forward Canard. I think were still dealing with an aircraft that would have a ridiculously high landing speed, even more than an F104.
You dont really need to have an airfoil that generates lift to fly, especially at higher speeds, but of course you trade off low speed capabilities and high G turns.

[Matador]

Added some floor detail and areas around the launch tubes.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay8.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay8.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay9.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay9.jpg)

:salute:

[martok2112]

That landing bay just keeps looking better and better with each element you add. :)

[Matador]

Actually, that's the Hangar / Launch deck that sits bellow the landing deck.

(Landing deck)

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1s.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1s.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_landingbay.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/landingbay.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LandPod1n.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LandPod1n.jpg)

(Hangar / Launch deck)
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay6.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay6.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LaunchBay9.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LaunchBay9.jpg)

:salute:

[martok2112]

LOL! Sorry, was in a rush....didn't have time to differentiate. :)

[Matador]

Taking a break from the Hangar deck scene. I wanted to add some detail for a laser turret.
They were never clear on the original show where these guys were, but I'm assuming they were tucked away, nice and protected near the launch tubes to protect the ship and the birds.
So here is what I've started so far...

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Side_Turret1_zps436a5db3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Side_Turret1_zps436a5db3.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Side_Turret3_zps5fde4f32.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Side_Turret3_zps5fde4f32.jpg)

:salute:

[Thunderstruck]

That is actually looking pretty hefty for a low poly lookin object lol


Teeeeesa...:D


Nah, is sexy and sleek like any old ship of the fleet.


Regards,

Randal R.

[Matador]

Thanks... I haven't figured out where I'm going with this yet. But that's why it's a work in progress...

Trial and error. Experimenting until I find what works.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Side_Turret4_zpsb52b382a.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Side_Turret4_zpsb52b382a.jpg)

:nervous:

[Senmut]

Basically for the viper to fly properly you'd have to taper the leading and trailing edges of the wings and add a forward Canard. I think were still dealing with an aircraft that would have a ridiculously high landing speed, even more than an F104.
You dont really need to have an airfoil that generates lift to fly, especially at higher speeds, but of course you trade off low speed capabilities and high G turns.

But if the Viper has VTOL capabilities, would it need such a high landing speed?

[Andromeda]

Interesting points about flyability of the vipers.
I asked the same questions years ago to my next door neighbor who is (retired) an
Aviation engineer. original viper would never get of the ground
the anhedral angle of the wings are too steep, wing area is to small to generate
enough lift. the drag caused by the engines and the nose section would be far to great
for the the lift generated by the wings to over come.

If it could fly, the engines would need to be insanely powerful with a huge airfoil camber
and thickness. power generated by the top engine wouldn't be as effective because
the intake is restricted by the cockpit

take off speed would be in excess of 500kph. Landing and stall speeds just as high.
Without canard wings, as it approaches take off speed would flip over on its back
like an F1 car because of the taper on the nose section. that would push the nose up.

If your interested, when i get home I'll find pictures of the vipers i came up with
to make them flyable.

edit: original vipers center of gravity is about a meter behind the cockpit behind the
root of the leading edge of the wings

[Senmut]

Just curious...did you ask him about VTOL?


EDIT-- What about Croad's fighter, from TLP? Flatter wings.

[Andromeda]

I did ask about VTOL :-) when i was looking at streamlining the original shuttle.

Most of what i asked and what was told was all on the harrier.
looking at how the exhaust is vectored by the nozzles moving up and down
and how it was stable on it's roll (z) axis with vectored vanes in the exhaust
nozzles.

Croads fighter looking at it, looks more flyable, It would have the same
problems as the viper. one less engine reduces the drag, however the wings
are a problem. if that wing had a typical airfoil cross section, airflow to the
engines would be disrupted or restricted because the engine is on top of the
wing. Also the engines are slightly recessed into the fuselage and that
would restrict airflow as well.

Have a look at Learjets, engines on the side on pylons away from the
fuselage.

When air passes over a wing the pressure drops as it goes over the top,
air pressure under the wing remains the same. that's what gets the plane off
the ground. Having an engine on top of a wing, where air pressure is lower
and more disturbed means the engines are sucking in a lot less air and
sometimes even cause a flame out.

That's why passenger jets (eg 737) have the engines underneath on pylons jutting forward of the wing.

Croads fighter could be flyable, if the engines where under the wings, nose
tapered, and tail made taller. and wingspan a little larger, Angle of the wings
wouldn't be a problem there about the same as the space shuttle.

Edit: something else i thought of, you could leave the engines on top, put them on little pylons
so that they are above the wing and way from the fuselage, like and A-10 for example.

[maudib]

If you don't think a Viper will fly, think again! This RC viper admittedly is not like like the actual model, but the shape does indeed fly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZcEuhuozA4&feature=related

[Andromeda]

Nice find, :-)
basic shape of that looks a little like a cross between ralph mcquarries original
concepts and the version in the new bsg series, with a shallower wing anhedral.
When you look at that model, it's very similar to the concorde.

that video gave flash backs of the cardboard space shuttle gliders in 7th grade
primary school. awesome.

Need to have another look.
cheers :salute:

[Senmut]

I did ask about VTOL :-) when i was looking at streamlining the original shuttle.

Most of what i asked and what was told was all on the harrier.
looking at how the exhaust is vectored by the nozzles moving up and down
and how it was stable on it's roll (z) axis with vectored vanes in the exhaust
nozzles.

Croads fighter looking at it, looks more flyable, It would have the same
problems as the viper. one less engine reduces the drag, however the wings
are a problem. if that wing had a typical airfoil cross section, airflow to the
engines would be disrupted or restricted because the engine is on top of the
wing. Also the engines are slightly recessed into the fuselage and that
would restrict airflow as well.

Have a look at Learjets, engines on the side on pylons away from the
fuselage.

When air passes over a wing the pressure drops as it goes over the top,
air pressure under the wing remains the same. that's what gets the plane off
the ground. Having an engine on top of a wing, where air pressure is lower
and more disturbed means the engines are sucking in a lot less air and
sometimes even cause a flame out.

That's why passenger jets (eg 737) have the engines underneath on pylons jutting forward of the wing.

Croads fighter could be flyable, if the engines where under the wings, nose
tapered, and tail made taller. and wingspan a little larger, Angle of the wings
wouldn't be a problem there about the same as the space shuttle.

Edit: something else i thought of, you could leave the engines on top, put them on little pylons
so that they are above the wing and way from the fuselage, like and A-10 for example.


Just to play Iblis' Opposer here....since these machines were primarily intended to fly in space, does atmospheric compatibility mean as much?
What about the Cylon fighters?

[Andromeda]

I've never looked much into flyabilty of raiders,
it looks possible, more or less a flying wing,
side profile looks very aerodynamic.

[Matador]

Sorry I haven't posted much lately. Had to build me a new computer. So now that I'm sort of back to normal... I decided to rebuild/reimage my colonial Viper.
Here is what I've come up with... "work in Progress"

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Viper_mrkIImax.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Viper_mrkIImax.jpg)

So say we all!

[Matador]

Was able to get more detailing done. Next will be texturing the skin.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Viper_mrkII5.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Viper_mrkII5.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Viper_mrkII6.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Viper_mrkII6.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Viper_mrkII3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Viper_mrkII3.jpg)



:cool:

[Matador]

Here is an update on my new Viper... Just started the texturing process. Very tedious.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Viper_MrkII_texture1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Viper_MrkII_texture1.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Viper_MrkII_texture2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Viper_MrkII_texture2.jpg)

Just an FYI... The gold engine covers are temporary... It was sort of an accident that I'm too tired to correct tonight.

cheers all!

:cool:

[Matador]

Adding laser burns and some weathering to the texture.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viper_Burns.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viper_Burns.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viper_Burns2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viper_Burns2.jpg)


:cool:

[Darrell Lawrence]

Gold engine colors looked kinda cool! :LOL:

What are you using for ref material for the Viper?

[Matador]

What are you using for ref material for the Viper?


I've been using pictures from both the new series and old series. I'm trying to fuse them to create my version of a viper.

I've made a few leaps in my modeling technique... So I'm applying those to create this new version of a viper.


:salute:

[Darrell Lawrence]

Keep it up. It looks cool and is unique.

[Matador]

Here is some more work I did today...

started texturing the cockpit area...

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_TextureUpdate.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/TextureUpdate.jpg)

This here is a personal touch.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viper1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viper1.jpg)

So say we all!:salute:

[Matador]

Did the work on the nose and engines.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viper3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viper3.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viper4.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viper4.jpg)

:cool:

[Senmut]

Launch!

[martok2112]

That looks great! :)

[Andromeda]

Your viper and big G is looking mighty fine :-D you've come a long way :salute:

[Matador]

Your viper and big G is looking mighty fine :-D you've come a long way :salute:

Thanks... Lots of trial and error.

I'm currently working on some combat scenes... More to come.:salute:

[Matador]

OK, so here are the last two shots I made of my Viper...
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viper7.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viper7.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_viper8.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/viper8.jpg)

I say last two... Meaning that I've made a leap to a new 3d modeling and rendering program called Lightwave.

This was a very hard decision... I actually lost sleep over it. But it really came down to cost value. The program I was using, 3ds Max is a very good program, but is missing many elements that you can get out of the box with lightwave... Many things I need in max (plugins) are just very expensive and I'm not a big production house and can't afford it.

Lightwave offers them, built in, and for a better price. Problem is I have to learn a whole new way of modeling and animating. It's like spending 5 years learning to speak German and then switching to speak Portuguese. But with a tight budget, I had to make the switch.

One good thing is that I was able to import my Viper model into lightwave, but have to re-texture it.

Here are some samples of lightwave:
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LW_viperTest3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LW_viperTest3.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_LW_viperTest4.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/LW_viperTest4.jpg)

Lightwave is also the program used in the new Galatica series and firefly.

I will probably finish up my space battle scene with Max, but will eventually switch over to lightwave.

:salute:

[Matador]

So I've been getting myself pretty familiar with Lightwave. It has been very a very challenging change from modeling in 3ds Max to Lightwave. But it is something I must do.

I'm re-creating my viper... Although I can import my model from Max into Lightwave. I need the practice... So here is what I have done so far.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Lightwave%20CG/th_Lightwave_ViperNew.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Lightwave%20CG/Lightwave_ViperNew.jpg):salute:

[Matador]

Just a little update.

One of the cool tools in Lightwave is the Stencil option, which is one of the options in the "Drill" tool.

I'm able to create hull detail that I would have had major problems with in Max. I know this may look silly, but it's a huge step for me.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Lightwave%20CG/th_test_Box2.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Lightwave%20CG/test_Box2.jpg)

This is going to be a huge help with Sci-Fi modeling. Thanks to Mikala, Maudib, and Taranis for the tips and help. This has been a tough transition. Kinda like letting go of an old Girl friend and moving on. :salute:

:salute:

[Matador]

Just adding the Top wing and Cockpit Windows. Will do more tinkering later.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Lightwave_ViperNew4_zps92ab2f37.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Lightwave_ViperNew4_zps92ab2f37.jpg.html)

:salute:

[martok2112]

Coming along nicely! :)

[Matador]

Coming along nicely! :)

Thanks... Getting used to the way modeling is done in lightwave is a huge step for me.

Several key strokes and options in places that take some getting used to. But it's all about practice.

Looking forward to modeling Galactica next.

:salute:

[Matador]

After doing some review, I realized that the blue prints I was using to build my Viper was not accurate.

I modified the hull to be a little thinner and lowered the top engine.

I believe the Viper looks a lot better.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Lightwave_ViperNew9_zps3b1675df.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Lightwave_ViperNew9_zps3b1675df.jpg)

:salute:

[martok2112]

Good design there on the rough Viper. :)
Yeah, I'm still working with Blender, but it serves me....shoot, for being a free program, it works wonders, and I haven't even scratched the surface of just what all Blender can do.

The Galactica is an interesting bird to tackle. I'm anxious to see your take on it. :)

[Matador]

Good design there on the rough Viper. :)


Thanks Martok... I gave blender a try, but I just couldn't get used to the right-click thing. I'm too spoiled with the Left click.

I've got another buddy who is trying Blender out. For a free program, you can't beat it.

But after much back and fourth and looking at a lot of work being done in Lightwave for shows like Galactica, Firefly, and Hunger games. I felt it was a good investment.

Lightwave has an awesome Render engine built right in. Another big selling point.

Anyhew... I'm making a new "Lightwave Version" of Galactica. I could import my already made Mesh from Max, but I want to see how long this takes me.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica_zps54ba7218.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica_zps54ba7218.jpg.html)

[martok2112]

I know Galactica was the first model I ever built....and with the awesome tutorial I had from Karan Shah on the basic interface for Blender, it took me five days to build my first version of Blender Galactica. (The fully rendered model is done in iClone, in Blender, she's just component pieces all in the right places.)

Keep up the good work, and keep us posted. :)

[Matador]

Did some more detailing on the Viper.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Lightwave_ViperNew12.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Lightwave_ViperNew12.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Lightwave_ViperNew13.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Lightwave_ViperNew13.jpg)

Not easy to see, but here is a close up look at the stencil work on the back engine covers that I was able to do in Lightwave...
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Lightwave_ViperNew14.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Lightwave_ViperNew14.jpg)
This is an awesome feature in lightwave that is a time saver.

Also I did a bit more work on the old Girl.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica1.jpg)
:salute:

[Matador]

Did some more work on Galactica. I even applied a temporary texture to give it a bit of something to visualize.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica3.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica3.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica4.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica4.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica5.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica5.jpg)

I can actually says that I'm now a lot more comfortable with modeling in Lightwave and really am beginning to enjoy the new tools available in Lightwave.
It has taken some getting used to, but I can say I love it's render engine.

:salute:

[martok2112]

Coming along quickly there! :)

[Matador]

Coming along quickly there! :)

Thanks... Probably since I've modeled the old Girl so many times, it has become a little easier. I was sort of amazed how quickly I got the shape down in Lightwave.

Here are some updates.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica8.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica8.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica7.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica7.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica6.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica6.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica9.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica9.jpg)

I think I'm going to start working on Detailing the Hull now. :cool:

[Matador]

OK... Got some hull plating done...
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica19.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica19.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica21.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica21.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica14.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica14.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica12.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica12.jpg)

I'm also adding some pipes and other Greebles to give the ship some detail.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica22.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica22.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica23.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica23.jpg)

:cool:

[martok2112]

Keep at it. She's really shaping up! :)

[Matador]

Pipe, pies, and more Pipes... Then greebles.

Trying to get all the detail work done.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica26.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica26.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica27.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica27.jpg)

:cool:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but I'm a geek for these sorts of details. Speaking from ignorance. Did the original model have pipes running along the base like that? It looks good but it seems a bad choice for a ship you expect to get shot at. Not trying to be an ass but I always try to figure out what the details on these models would do and this sort of detailing seems like something that would be ideal on a civilian ship but might be out of place on a warship.

In the larger scheme of things, ... back in the day when I was doing CG, the Lightwave modeler was a dream. I used to find modeling in it very relaxing. I'd imagine its only gotten better in the last few years.

Really nice detailing of hoses, etc. on the viper above.

All my best,


Russell

[Matador]

Speaking from ignorance. Did the original model have pipes running along the base like that?

Really nice detailing of hoses, etc. on the viper above.

All my best,

Russell

Well Let's look at a production model of the Original Galactica.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_Pipes3a.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_Pipes3a.jpg)

Yep... Pipes!;)

Let's then look at Maudib's verison, (which is the best highly detailed and completely accurate to the studio version I've seen so far)...
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_Pipes1a.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_Pipes1a.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galactica_Pipes2a.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galactica_Pipes2a.jpg)

Oh yeah... More pipes.s:cool:

Now, having exposed pipes like that may have not been the smartest idea for the Colonials. It probably would explain why the entire fleet was destroyed so easily... Also, flying around in a viper with no pressure suite or mask didn't make a lot of sense either, but it made for a great show and we all love the costumes...
The Galactica from the new series would be a better bet, because everything is all tucked away behind armor...

But one thing both ships had was lots of Bulky armor, heavy defense system, firepower, and Vipers! Everything was Reduntant and by-passable. Like Star Trek and the Auxiliary systems.;)

My version of Galactica is very different and is intended to be that way... I did not want to copy anybody else's work... Sort of how the Enterprise from the new Star trek is the same but different than the original movie version.
My landing bays are open on both ends.

I am still very new to Lightwave... After working with Max for almost 6 years, switching over has not been easy.

Thanks for checking out my post.:salute:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Wow, how unobservant am I? The Galactica universe ships were always known for pipes but I'd always regarded them as something along the lines of our own warships. It wasn't until I saw this without the other gurnies that I noted just how large of a target the old girl had. Even worse, I never noted the lower set was painted red.

Agree with the Maudib version. Some fantastic work.

Best of luck with this version.

All my best,


Russell

[Titon]

The lower half of the Galactica's head section in red originally was made up of "U" channel. It's hard to see but it looks like pipeing but it really is U channel.

:)

[Matador]

The lower half of the Galactica's head section in red originally was made up of "U" channel.


Fair enough...

Moving forward... Started working on some detaling of the head section.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica30-1.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica30-1.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica32.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica32.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica33.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica33.jpg) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica31.jpg (http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica31.jpg)
:cool:

[Matador]

Pretty much done with that head section.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/th_Galacticaside5.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/Galacticaside5.jpg.html)

Now working on adding detail to the rest of the Old Girl.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/th_Galacticaside4.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/Galacticaside4.jpg.html)

:cool:

[Titon]

Looks cool....

Might i suggest something? On the landing bay's it might be in your best interest to reduce the "smoothing" on them. They look a bit to organic if i may say so otherwise for your first attempt at it looks fun!

:)

[Matador]

Looks cool....

On the landing bay's it might be in your best interest to reduce the "smoothing" on them.

:)

Yes, thanks... I've been working on that... Trying to figure out how I want to approach that... But in the meantime I added more detail to the support arms/legs(what ever you want to call them)... Eventually she won't look so naked.
Here is the latest picture with a bit more detail added to the support arms
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_Galacticaside7.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/Galacticaside7.jpg.html)

Matador:cool:

[Matador]

Based on the recommendation from Taranis... I removed the smoothing thing. Not sure why I had that on there. But thanks for the tip.:salute:

So I was told that the legs/arms should be called Pylons... OK...

So I've updated the ship and added more greebles...

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica39.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica39.jpg.html) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica38.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica38.jpg.html) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/th_NewLWGalactica43.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/NewLWGalactica43.jpg.html) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/th_NewLWGalactica44.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/NewLWGalactica44.jpg.html) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/th_NewLWGalactica41.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/NewLWGalactica41.jpg.html)
:cool:

[gmd3d]

Titon recommeded the smoothing change :)

[Titon]

On your shot of the engine section it looks like you have 2 vertices sharing a plane. If you look at the roco tank you will see a "brighter" area around a disk detail on the roco tank you built. Either that or you have a different surface name for that area.

Open your statistics panel, select polygons by hitting the space bar, then look at the "2" vertices selection within the panel. See if it show's more than "2" vertices within the polygon's. If it does select the vertices within the panel and delete them. All from within modelor of course.

:)

[gmd3d]

I never spoted that ......

[Matador]

Titon recommeded the smoothing change :)

I see... Must have been drinking a bit too much Ambrosa... :D

Titon... Yes... I'll check out that disk thing when I get a chance. :cool:

[gmd3d]

[QUOTE=Matador;311273]I see... Must have been drinking a bit too much Ambrosa... :D

/QUOTE]

What! What? What¿ you found the keys to the Ambrosa Locker, what that BST lost in his pocket
on the last day of worshipping of the knotted string.

Has the mystery been solved ?

can we now stop the wasteful worship of the wooden foot.

answers in a wooden envelope

[Matador]

I'm getting closer to finishing the Hull detail and will perhaps start filming some flyby's. In the meantime, here is where I am.

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica53.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica53.jpg.html) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica54.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica54.jpg.html) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica55.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica55.jpg.html) http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/CG%20Galactica%20Project/th_NewLWGalactica56.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/CG%20Galactica%20Project/NewLWGalactica56.jpg.html)

There are a lot of things I'm still working on, but I just wanted to take a step back and see how it is looking. :cool:

[gmd3d]

looking good Mate

[martok2112]

Very sharp! :)

[Andromeda]

OMG you made the switch to LW :eek: that was unexpected :)
I fully understand why and makes perfect sense.
Looking good and coming a long way since I last looked.
Makes me wonder what my ships would like in LW Hmmmm thats a long way off yet

cheers.

[Matador]

OMG you made the switch to LW :eek: that was unexpected :)

Yes, I made the switch... Trust me it was not an easy decision. Lots of tossing and turning. While thinking it over.

But it all came down to cost... LW is a much cheaper program and comes with a bunch of stuff right out of the box. With Max, it is expensive, plus I would have to get a bunch of other plug-ins, which are even more expensive.
So after mulling this over, I made the switch.
It was like learning to walk all over again. But I'm getting the hang of it and I'm pretty excited with what I can do.
One of the biggest selling points too, was that LW was offering Poser Pro 2012 when you bought LW.

I was able to create this scene.
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz252/danakinobi/Poser%20Projects/th_Breland_Ale.jpg (http://s833.beta.photobucket.com/user/danakinobi/media/Poser%20Projects/Breland_Ale.jpg.html)

The Character I created in poser... The bottles and other stuff was modeled in Lightwave. I exported the character into Lightwave layout...

Happy Saint Patrick's day everyone!
:salute: