Stevew Defender Class Lightwave

[gmd3d]

Hi true believers (A little Line from Stan Lee and Marvel)

Steve recently found was to convert his model's to Lightwave .. and :LOL: the mad
Fool (mean that in the nicest way) :rotf: trusts me to make it presentable to Lightwavers .. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Lord of Kobol If I mess this up Cylons will be the last of my worries :rotf: :rotf:

see what's happen I now have a nervous laugh :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

But all jokes aside here is Steve's ship .. No Textures yet ... I am also going to add to the landing bay .. with Steve permission

As we go forward with the look of the model .. any Ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated . even if you no nothing about modelling or textures ..
you know what you like .. so input please

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4101/defng3.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=defng3.jpg)

[evil_genius_180]

Looks great. In what format is the original model?

[gmd3d]

Truespace I think :)

http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/downloads/meshesnotforrel/?M=D

[evil_genius_180]

Ooooooh, I might have to play. :D

[gmd3d]

They big files .. My PC chock on them when I use Truespace .. I know your is better .. but they are so detailed .. Steve put a lot of work into them ..hey do you think I am so nervous :)

[evil_genius_180]

Yeah, that's the problem with Steve's majorly detailed meshes. His Galactica in tS 4 makes my PC go stupid. :)

[SilentBob]

Ooooooh, I might have to play. :D

Me too!!!!!!!!!

[SilentBob]

They big files .. My PC chock on them when I use Truespace .. I know your is better .. but they are so detailed .. Steve put a lot of work into them ..hey do you think I am so nervous :)

You should see Bryce choke on them. But one trick I learned was taking his lightwave version battlestar into Polytrans and I lowered the polygon count. That effectively reduced the file size of the model without affecting it's beauty.

[Stevew]

Looks great "T" That one is the latest. I had to go from SW to TS and then back to polytrans for poly reduction. It went from 3M to 900K polys and I could not see much detail loss. I am going to play with it til I get a reduction setting that will balance detail with poly count.
CAD standard to always use triangles. That is how CAD data is
tessellated from NURBS surfaces so poly count is high.

The TS file was 33M and the LW file was 17M so I only posted the LW file. I don't think I can get much more than a 10% reduction with out loosing detail.

TS 6.6 and 7 handle large files pretty well

[Stevew]

Bob Could you post the polytrans settings? I have found that if I do a 75% reduction I can keep the detail, more and it turns to junk.

I am going to just post LW models because that seems to be the format of choice here. Eventually I hope to have the whole fleet in LW
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[SilentBob]

Bob Could you post the polytrans settings? I have found that if I do a 75% reduction I can keep the detail, more and it turns to junk.

I am going to just post LW models because that seems to be the format of choice here. Eventually I hope to have the whole fleet in LW
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Try these settings Steve, at least I hope these are the ones. They're from the last time I used it.

[evil_genius_180]

3 million polys? Holy crap, dude. I model mostly Star Trek (though I'm considering doing some Galactica modeling) so I'm used to between 200k and 300k for a detailed Trek model because most Trek designs still go with Matt Jeffries' theory that ships should be pretty basic on the outside and all of the cool stuff should be contained within.

[gmd3d]

I am going to just post LW models because that seems to be the format of choice here. Eventually I hope to have the whole fleet in LW
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That will be a fine addition ...... If the Defender come out to you satisfaction. I do the
scenes and redo the textures if you want .. the between my commitment to the fanfilm and building my own model of the Galactica .. married life. work. going mad .. you know LIFE :)

[Stevew]

Thanks Bob
Thats pretty close to what I used. I still want to plat and see if I can get the poly count down
S :)

[Stevew]

"T" you have free rein to do what ever you want. I just make them and you guys make them pretty
:)

[Stevew]

180
Most of the BSG ships have stuff on the outside so it make them more fun to do IMHO. Smooth ones are not nearly as much fun. I will try and keep them below 1M, the Defender was a 17M LW file and I hope to keep them in this range. CAD data translates funny sometimes but I do CAD for a living and SW is all I have

[gmd3d]

I still have to work out the best way to tackle this :) I am no FABIO PASSARO .. so well have to see .. Fabio did some work on one of your Big G meshes ? along with Warrior

[Stevew]

Fab's and Darrell did some of the conversions of the very first ones and they were wonderfull. The new batch are much better IMHO

[gmd3d]

I Have that one I think ..I was thinking of going back in to that one and redo the window around the bridge area.. make them smaller

[Stevew]

All of them are on my meshe link, which ones :) I have no clue
:rotf:

[gmd3d]

The One that's in downloads here .. Lightwave 7 i think

[Stevew]

Not sure which one but chk the date codes on my meshe site, they were the first
I moved a few mos. ago but Darrell has left these intact
http://www.firedragon.com/~cfleets/downloads/meshesnotforrel/?M=A

BTW anybody seen Darrell?

[evil_genius_180]

Darrell was on a while back to renew his 3DG site because it had expired, but he hasn't been on much in recent months because his PC blew up and I don't know if he ever got it replaced.

[Stevew]

He will be back with a roar :)

[Stevew]

Hey "T" try this one
Tanker06.zip
http://www.colonialfleets.com/stevew/Meshes/?M=D
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[gmd3d]

I'll check it out :)

[HercDestin]

Mate, Im droolin here.............................lookin forward to seeing it finished in all its glory. So far so great.

[gmd3d]

I'll have a real crack at it on Monday.. :)

[Stevew]

T I am rebuilding the Guardian as we speak, might have it up today or for sure tomorrow

[gmd3d]

Cool .. I will be making some time for texturing the ships soon :)

[Stevew]

T
The guardian06.zip is up now. I was able to get the polycount down pretty well and it looks like it kept all the detail

http://www.colonialfleets.com/stevew/Meshes/

[gmd3d]

Downloading now .. :)
My work is cut out ay :)

[Stevew]

It will keep you out of trouble and off the streets
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[gmd3d]

Damnnnnnnnnn Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[Stevew]

Did it work? were you able to open the tanker?

[gmd3d]

They both opened and are looking fine ..The Tanker will take more time.... I need to see what fits what and were .. I am almost finished the Prison barge ....... Not going to give to much detail

[gmd3d]

here it is .. http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2295/garkf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Stevew]

How about that but the only thing is, it is upside down
:rotf:

[SilentBob]

I just had to...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHJU2a5z5vQ

[Stevew]

Wow Bob thats great, looks like it worked for you as well. I have a whole fleet to do now. I hope to get the Protector done this weekend. These are all the lasest and I have not posted any piks, looks like I won't have to :)
I hope others can use them and make some space battles
Thanks
S

[SilentBob]

Actually i had to convert it to 3ds. Bryce won't accept lightwave meshes higher than 5.6.

[gmd3d]

How about that but the only thing is, it is upside down
:rotf:
complainants .. :) that's easily fixed

[Stevew]

"T" I had to complain about something :rotf:

Thats interesting Bob. these meshes seem to convert better than the others
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[Stevew]

OK "T" the protector06 is posted
S

[gmd3d]

Ok got it .. :) looks ok too..... I will try and clean up as much of the poly count also.. ..I have been looking at the Warrior and Fabio did on the Galactica .. I not saying I get the same but I try

[Stevew]

Thats it for a while. I found a version of the Flatop I will play with, it was one of my first SW models so it needs work
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[gmd3d]

Thanks the Gods :) I have enough to last me a few months .. But I have some ideas as to to this

[Stevew]

Look forward to seeing them
S :)

[gmd3d]

Well I have learned to do them in stages......and! as they are in layers that works well for me :)

[animaniac]

Have begun now to Texture this Defender like the Pegasus, think it will looking Great when its finished.

[gmd3d]

Man your quick:) I have yet to even start .. I so much on now with the modelling and preparing scene for the fan film ..

[Stevew]

Hey "T" I just uploaded the Ranger
Ranger06 and061.zip
Both LW and TS
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[animaniac]

Think today i can present first Textured Renders of this pretty Baby!

[gmd3d]

Git :) looking forward to seen that ... I taken a break from modeling for a few days ...

[Stevew]

Can't wait to see it
S :)

[animaniac]

Like promised a Look at the Textured Defender, its not finished and there is no special Lighting, the Greebles at the Frontside Top are untextured, i finish it Tomorrow.

[Stevew]

It looks really great but it is an earlier version. The latest all have 06 at the end on the file name
S :)

[animaniac]

Can you get me a link, i dont found it.

[Stevew]

Here you go
http://www.colonialfleets.com/stevew/Meshes/?M=D

[gmd3d]

looks ABSOLUTELY GREAT :) Animaniac :)

[animaniac]

Thanks, but with the right Lighting it will be better!

[gmd3d]

ALWAYS the Lighting :) :) well what I seen so far .. excellent

[Stevew]

animaniac
The new defender in .cob format is up
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[animaniac]

Thanks! :salute: First Final of the Defender added to my Final-Artwork -Thread.

[gmd3d]

Steve I have asked for some help in the Lightwave website ... is that ok .. I have been looking for suggestions .....Some may volunteer to help is that also ok

I have the 14th fan film and that going to take a lot of time .. so it will be a while
before I can give them the attention they need .. I have some of the Def worked
on done .. but nothing to show :)

[Stevew]

"T" as I have said before the meshes are their to do what ever you wish, thanks for asking but not necessary. I just want to see the results
S :)