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spcglider
May 17th, 2006, 07:03 AM
I've often thought about which one of the warrior characters was my favorite.
It may seem odd, but Boomer really is the man.
Boomer actually showed a common sense that neither Starbuck NOR Apollo managed to evidence.
He was loyal, smart, handy with all things electronic, had a good military history, and was constantly the "go to" guy for Apollo and Starbuck when they needed backup.
He helped Apollo get past security and up to Sire Uri's compartment on the Rising Star.
He flew with the "heroes" through the Nova of Madagon. He climbed, deathly ill into the cockpit of a Viper to lead the warriors and save the day on Kobol.
He rescued the Commander's daughter and step-grandson from a Fire In Space.
He stared down three Klingons...err, Borellian Nomen with only JOLLY as support.
He looked after Boxey (hey..ain't that Jolly's job?) when Apollo and Starbuck went missing.
He wired up the identifier signal device to make sure that Apollo & Starbuck wouldn't get shot down when they returned in a Cylon Raider and THEN after those two bunglers LOST it, BOOMER recognized that they were "waggling their wings".
I tell ya, if it weren't for Boomer, our so-called "heroes" would have been fragged a dozen times over. And so on and so on and so on.
That's why, when I get my studio scale Viper, I'm gonna put Boomer in the cockpit!!
-Gordon :salute:
KamikazeAthena
May 17th, 2006, 07:41 AM
I always liked in Fire In Space when he basically admitted to hot wiring cars. It always stuck with me.
My kinda guy!
My heart still belongs to Starbuck though. :love: Why do I always like the ones who cause me grief? :devil:
spcglider
May 17th, 2006, 08:47 AM
Huh..I thought you might have mentioned how Boomer tears the crotch right out of his warrior pants when he jumps through the door!
But you wouldn't have been looking THERE, would you? LOL.
JUST TEASING!!!
-Gordon
peter noble
May 17th, 2006, 08:56 AM
I would have to agree with Gordon, that Boomer is the epitome of a Colonial Warrior.
P
BRG
May 17th, 2006, 09:12 AM
I would have to agree with Gordon, that Boomer is the epitome of a Colonial Warrior.
P
Indeed. I could'nt have put it better. :salute: :thumbsup:
BRG
spcglider
May 17th, 2006, 09:38 AM
When I met Herb J. at a convention, I told him my observations about Boomer. He was sincerely humble about it all. I basically told him that out of all of the warriors, I had the most respect for Boomer because he was the only one who seemed to have his crap together on a consistent basis.
He demurred taking any credit for the character. That's class.
Evidently Herb worked as a fireman for a while. A buddy of mine was a firefighter in Chicago. When they met at a local con, they hit it off right away. Herb kept bending his ear about firefighting, so my buddy Jack told him, "I'll give up stories about firefighting if you give up stories about Galactica."
Pretty cool.
-G
Charybdis
May 17th, 2006, 09:51 AM
When I was younger during the run of the show itself (1978), I always liked Starbuck. My best friend had dark hair and I had lighter brown hair, so we identified well with Apollo and Starbuck respectively.
However, as of the last several years that I have watched the series over and over again and have gotten to meet all the actors from the show, I think I have to say that Apollo is now my favorite character. I believe that the way he played him is very indicative of how I am today as an adult, more steady than impulsive and very driven by moral principles. So I personally identify with his character more than any other.
Of course, who can't like Adama either. Lorne was awesome!
spcglider
May 17th, 2006, 11:28 AM
Absolutely. Lorne Greene was a super guy. I have two autographs from him that he sent me after I wrote. Personalized and everything.
-G
captmiloman
May 17th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Being the youngest sibling in my family, I always could relate to Zac. It isn't always easy being someone's "little brother". Too bad he was killed off early.
KamikazeAthena
May 17th, 2006, 11:58 AM
Huh..I thought you might have mentioned how Boomer tears the crotch right out of his warrior pants when he jumps through the door!
But you wouldn't have been looking THERE, would you? LOL.
JUST TEASING!!!
-Gordon
All I have to say is :girl: :blush:
It is amazing what a girl notices. :)
spcglider
May 18th, 2006, 07:01 AM
All I have to say is :girl: :blush:
It is amazing what a girl notices. :)
Yeah, but I'm NOT a girl... and even I noticed!!! LOL!!!
Actually, the footage showing his ripped crotch seam is mostly in the "extras" for Fire In Space. Extras, indeed! LOL!!!
But hey, that's the price you pay for wearing ultra-tight fashion by Jean Pierre!
-G
bsg1fan1975
May 18th, 2006, 10:06 AM
For male warriors, my favorite would be Apollo.
For the females, there is only one choice and that's Sheba
JLHurley
May 18th, 2006, 02:23 PM
If my poor failing memory still serves me even a bit, I'm pretty sure that Starbuck was my favorite warrior during the original run of BG and for years and years after. Today, however, I'm going to pick Tigh as my favorite. He was far from perfect (though thankfully not a drunk!) but his loyalty to Adama as both a fellow warrior and friend was inspiring. I dare say that BG would not have been BG without Colonel Tigh on the bridge at Adama's side.
(And he had a couple hilarious lines, too, i.e. "Saga"'s "When Commander Adama sees these, he's gonna go crazy!")
But re: Boomer in "Fire in Space," the final scene where Apollo barely gets out a "Thank you" to Boomer for saving Boxey and Athena chokes me up to this day! That was a great spotlight episode on both the Boom and Athena.
JLHurley
May 18th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Just thought of another "Tigh moment": I think it was in "Lost Warrior" where he tells (yells at, actually) Adama that if it was anyone other than Apollo who was separated from the fleet, the Commander would have sent out a search party. "Don't diminish his chances because he's your son" or something like that. Adama ok's the launch, Tigh gets on the comm, and microns later vipers take off. Can't recall his exact words but Tigh says something along the lines of, "I guess there were two vipers ready to launch." :rotf:
KamikazeAthena
May 18th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Yeah, the more I think about it, the boom really is the man! If we had a second season, I would like to think that he would have gotten his due.
...and I am glad that someone else calls him "The Boom"!
julix
May 18th, 2006, 03:48 PM
I was just watching Saga and Boomer was the first one to be suspicious of as it is called the disco in space Carolon(not sure of the spelling)
My favorite was Apollo.........straight up good guy/hero!
Centurion Draco
May 19th, 2006, 10:40 AM
For male warriors, my favorite would be Apollo.
For the females, there is only one choice and that's Sheba
I'm in agreement with you 100% there.
mocha2112
May 19th, 2006, 11:08 AM
Boomer was the "unsung" hero of the crew being that he was the perfect buffer between Apollo's rigidness and Starbuck's flightiness.
However, from day one it was Apollo for me. And not just because he was so dreamy to an 11 year old girl either. ;) It was the closing scene of "Lost Planet of the Gods" when he explained to Boxey about Serina dying and I was hooked. Later, in high-school, a steady stream of novels came out and that just made Apollo all the more for me. Anyone remember the 13th book, "Apollo's War"? Outside of the fact they dropped the Sheba/Apollo pairing, one of my favorite Apollo stories. Starbuck was fun but the moral compass came from Apollo and that made a strong mark on me back then that still hasn't faded.
Plus he was (still is?) pretty dreamy... :blush:
ok... bye...
KamikazeAthena
May 19th, 2006, 12:16 PM
Starbuck was fun but the moral compass came from Apollo and that made a strong mark on me back then that still hasn't faded.
Plus he was (still is?) pretty dreamy... :blush:
Starbuck is the guy you date, even though you shouldn't.
Apollo is the guy you hope that you are lucky enough to marry.
They are both still pretty darn dreamy. :girl:
Centurion Draco
May 19th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Boomer was the "unsung" hero of the crew being that he was the perfect buffer between Apollo's rigidness and Starbuck's flightiness.
However, from day one it was Apollo for me. And not just because he was so dreamy to an 11 year old girl either. ;) It was the closing scene of "Lost Planet of the Gods" when he explained to Boxey about Serina dying and I was hooked. Later, in high-school, a steady stream of novels came out and that just made Apollo all the more for me. Anyone remember the 13th book, "Apollo's War"? Outside of the fact they dropped the Sheba/Apollo pairing, one of my favorite Apollo stories. Starbuck was fun but the moral compass came from Apollo and that made a strong mark on me back then that still hasn't faded.
Plus he was (still is?) pretty dreamy... :blush:
ok... bye...
LOL, well... from a purely hetro teenage boy's POV, Starbuck was the 'guy' that you wanted to be, and Apollo was the 'man' you hoped you'd become (once you worked out all the 'teenage' stuff in your Starbuck phase).
Apollo is the 'all rounder'.
They very cleverly managed to write characters, and cast performers that kind of grow with the viewer. I find that I actually appreciate all of the charcters even more now, than I did back then.
For such a short show there is so much depth to the characterisation, that even all these years later you can find more to love about all of them.
I think that one of the true strengths of BSG is that a lot of the characters 'speak' to both genders.
It's something thats been lost to a great extent in current tv writing trends.
jewels
May 19th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Starbuck is the guy you date, even though you shouldn't.
Apollo is the guy you hope that you are lucky enough to marry.
They are both still pretty darn dreamy. :girl:Agree with you about Starbuck, on Apollo I'd just add that he'd be the better one to take home to mom. :D
Funny thing is I think my mom would get along better with Dirk than with Richard IRL.:rotf:
Female warriors I always identified with Bree because she nearly lost it all on her first mission launch. That's about my speed. :LOL: Sheba was my ideal though.
spcglider
May 19th, 2006, 02:58 PM
OOPS. Okay... I changed my mind.
GREENBEAN. Definitely the warrior's warrior!!
Greenbean... he's the fashiznit!!!
-Gordon
peter noble
May 20th, 2006, 07:46 AM
Warrior With A Beard, he was the daggit's yarbles!
P
spcglider
May 20th, 2006, 10:09 AM
Oh, wait...
There was that young guy who was a security guard but then was a warrior in MW9L.
Bad bad actor!!! Great warrior!! How he wore that collar so un-wrinkled is beyond me!!
-G
peter noble
May 20th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Oh, wait...
There was that young guy who was a security guard but then was a warrior in MW9L.
Bad bad actor!!! Great warrior!! How he wore that collar so un-wrinkled is beyond me!!
-G
That'd be Bruce Wright.
P
Lara
May 21st, 2006, 02:11 AM
for business: Adama..dignity, leadership, inspiration, compassion, with the hint that he and Tigh kicked some serious tin can astrum when they flew starfighters..
for recreation: dancing with Starbuck, ;)
Cheers,
Lara
Sept17th
May 21st, 2006, 08:26 AM
Gotta go with Starbuck, he is almost the complete warrior Boomer is but also a charming hit with the ladies. Before I was recently married I enjoyed trying to be a charming hit with the ladies…I should have watched more Battlestar Galactica.
spcglider
May 22nd, 2006, 06:56 AM
Awww..c'mon guys. Without Boomer, Starbuck would have been permanently imprisoned for murder with Baltar as a cellmate!
-G
mocha2112
May 22nd, 2006, 07:52 AM
Awww..c'mon guys. Without Boomer, Starbuck would have been permanently imprisoned for murder with Baltar as a cellmate!
-G
Aww... now I feel bad that no one picked spcglider's fav. :(
Sorry, spcglider, but Boomer made a couple of boo-boo's that kind of took him off the list for me. He did have those great wash-board abs :blush: , but he sided with Iblis in WotG and WotG being my all time favorite sci fi episode ever, took him out of the running. And who was the one in the end who "beat" Iblis? Yep, my guy. :D
And yeah, Sheba picked the "wrong" side too, but she's also the only female we saw on camera to turn Starbuck down (see part 2 - LL) so that for me trumps all of her other shortcomings. ;)
If it makes you feel any better, one redeeming quality of G80 was that Boomer was now second in command so if/when Adama died, he'd be the fleet commander, not my guy or that other guy. I hope that helps... :salute:
bye again... :duck:
bsg1fan1975
May 22nd, 2006, 07:53 AM
Starbuck is the guy you date, even though you shouldn't.
Apollo is the guy you hope that you are lucky enough to marry.
They are both still pretty darn dreamy. :girl:
Yup, Starbuck was the one you played around with and Apollo was the type that your mom would have approved of you marrying:D :LOL: :rotf:
spcglider
May 22nd, 2006, 10:33 AM
Aww... now I feel bad that no one picked spcglider's fav. :(
Sorry, spcglider, but Boomer made a couple of boo-boo's that kind of took him off the list for me. He did have those great wash-board abs :blush: , but he sided with Iblis in WotG and WotG being my all time favorite sci fi episode ever, took him out of the running. And who was the one in the end who "beat" Iblis? Yep, my guy. :D
And yeah, Sheba picked the "wrong" side too, but she's also the only female we saw on camera to turn Starbuck down (see part 2 - LL) so that for me trumps all of her other shortcomings. ;)
If it makes you feel any better, one redeeming quality of G80 was that Boomer was now second in command so if/when Adama died, he'd be the fleet commander, not my guy or that other guy. I hope that helps... :salute:
bye again... :duck:
Okay, but here's the rub about WOTG... EVERYBODY except Tigh, Apollo and Adama sided with Iblis... EVEN STARBUCK (for a while). Even SUPERMAN, who was disguised as a lame old man, eventually fell for Iblis' trickery*.So I can't personally accept the WOTG downfall as a deal breaker on Boomer. I mean, comparing Boomer to Job, Jesus and Moses would be about as fair! I'm not gonna fault him for being human!
LOL!
*For those of you who recognized him in the credits.
-G
mocha2112
May 22nd, 2006, 02:28 PM
Okay, but here's the rub about WOTG... EVERYBODY except Tigh, Apollo and Adama sided with Iblis... EVEN STARBUCK (for a while). Even SUPERMAN, who was disguised as a lame old man, eventually fell for Iblis' trickery*.So I can't personally accept the WOTG downfall as a deal breaker on Boomer. I mean, comparing Boomer to Job, Jesus and Moses would be about as fair! I'm not gonna fault him for being human!
LOL!
*For those of you who recognized him in the credits.
-G
Technically, Adama and Apollo both suggested that "half the fleet was welling to follow him [Iblis]..." so not EVERYBODY fell for it. And because the big three didn't fall for Iblis, well, that's what made Apollo so cool to me. (Starbuck could have actually made it a closer race if he hadn't stayed at Iblis' party. That sealed Starbuck's fate in my book too giving Apollo the runaway win.)
But if you need the other reason, and believe me this is a hard thing to say about Boom Boom. It was Boomer's fault all the pilots got sick in LPotG. He was uncharacteristically sloppy and skipped the most important and simplest of requirements of decontamination after a patrol. Jolly can't be at fault here because he was sent straight to Life Station after they landed. But it was Boomer going to the party that got everyone else sick. He makes up for it by saving the day at the end ("The viper is flown in the seated position, sir. " MVP Quote of part 2 IMHO), but still, the risk those new pilots had to take because of his little boo boo was really bad. (Bad Boomer, bad.)
;)
(Didn't catch your Superman reference. Do you mean the "original" Superman is in this ep and I never caught that?!! I should hang my head in shame.... :duck: )
spcglider
May 22nd, 2006, 04:32 PM
Yes! Kirk Alyn played the angry old man in the freighter who layed into Iblis for being a crazy man.
Look carefully at the episodes... there are A LOT of famous folks lurking in the shadows.
Keep your eyes open for Dale Arden!
-Gordon
jewels
May 22nd, 2006, 10:01 PM
dale arden, like the dale arden from....now i'm stuck was it flash gordon or buck rogers' serials from the '30s...that dale arden--my question mark is dead at the moment.
when/what episode/who. please fill me in.
jewels
KamikazeAthena
May 22nd, 2006, 11:16 PM
dale arden, like the dale arden from....now i'm stuck was it flash gordon or buck rogers' serials from the '30s...that dale arden--my question mark is dead at the moment.
when/what episode/who. please fill me in.
jewels
Dale Arden was the name of Melody Anderson's character in the 1980's Buck Rogers. She played Brenda Maxwell in Experiment In Terra. She also did a shot on the A-Team, the TV Version of Logan's Run, and Manimal!!!
And after much debate, as much as the Boom was cool and Apollo was just too amazing for words, Starbuck is the man I would most like to see come to my rescue. :love:
bsg1fan1975
May 23rd, 2006, 07:35 AM
Technically, Adama and Apollo both suggested that "half the fleet was welling to follow him [Iblis]..." so not EVERYBODY fell for it. And because the big three didn't fall for Iblis, well, that's what made Apollo so cool to me. (Starbuck could have actually made it a closer race if he hadn't stayed at Iblis' party. That sealed Starbuck's fate in my book too giving Apollo the runaway win.)
But if you need the other reason, and believe me this is a hard thing to say about Boom Boom. It was Boomer's fault all the pilots got sick in LPotG. He was uncharacteristically sloppy and skipped the most important and simplest of requirements of decontamination after a patrol. Jolly can't be at fault here because he was sent straight to Life Station after they landed. But it was Boomer going to the party that got everyone else sick. He makes up for it by saving the day at the end ("The viper is flown in the seated position, sir. " MVP Quote of part 2 IMHO), but still, the risk those new pilots had to take because of his little boo boo was really bad. (Bad Boomer, bad.)
;)
yes, Boomer makes a huge mistake in LPotG but he does make it right in the end when the colonials camped on Kobol need the help when the Cylons attack. He is after all, human and we all make mistakes. I think that's what this episode intended to show by using Boomer's goof as an example.
mocha2112
May 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM
yes, Boomer makes a huge mistake in LPotG but he does make it right in the end when the colonials camped on Kobol need the help when the Cylons attack. He is after all, human and we all make mistakes. I think that's what this episode intended to show by using Boomer's goof as an example.
I know Boomer is "human" and that "everyone makes mistakes". I wasn't withholding mushies from him or calling him the worse character on the show, or sending him to H- E- double tooth picks for his crimes against humanity. I was just noting the reasons he's not my favorite warrior, which was the original question, remember?. For me, because Apollo made less of these human mistakes than the others, he became my favorite character. that's all...
think it's time to go back under my rock now.... later... :duck:
spcglider
May 24th, 2006, 10:43 AM
dale arden, like the dale arden from....now i'm stuck was it flash gordon or buck rogers' serials from the '30s...that dale arden--my question mark is dead at the moment.
when/what episode/who. please fill me in.
jewels
The gal who played Dale Arden in the Delaurentis version of Flash Gordon with Topol and Sam J Jones plays the woman who Apollo gets hooked up with on Terra (she thinks he's some other guy because the Angel John makes him appear differently). Her name is Melody Anderson.
But there's plenty of other guest stars that are floating around in there.
-G
Gold Cylon
May 24th, 2006, 05:33 PM
After reading most of the comments about Boomer, with a few about Starbuck, Apollo, Adama, and the rest of the crew I noticed my favorite not mentioned. That has to be Commander Cain. The guy has the no guts, no glory attitude. Kill them now type of guy, and when the chips are down, just move the chips some place else. He has the hottest woman in the fleet next to him, (Cassie) plus a hot looking daughter. Every one loves his warrior skills on how to out think a Cylon. He even looks good in that one of a like helmet.
http://byyourcommand.net/photogallery/albums/album05/CainsHelmet_Front.sized.jpg
captmiloman
July 25th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Boomer was the "unsung" hero of the crew being that he was the perfect buffer between Apollo's rigidness and Starbuck's flightiness.
However, from day one it was Apollo for me. And not just because he was so dreamy to an 11 year old girl either. ;) It was the closing scene of "Lost Planet of the Gods" when he explained to Boxey about Serina dying and I was hooked. Later, in high-school, a steady stream of novels came out and that just made Apollo all the more for me. Anyone remember the 13th book, "Apollo's War"? Outside of the fact they dropped the Sheba/Apollo pairing, one of my favorite Apollo stories. Starbuck was fun but the moral compass came from Apollo and that made a strong mark on me back then that still hasn't faded.
Plus he was (still is?) pretty dreamy... :blush:
ok... bye...
I actually found myself quoting most of the dialogue spoken by Richard in that LPOTG scene when I was comforting my nephew when his grandmother(my mom) passed away two years ago.
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