Gordon's viper helmet design

[spcglider]

Okay,

Just to put a little pressure on myself, I decided to start this thread. I started making sketches of my own viper helmet design... as per discussion in another thread.

The justification of the side view and the front view and the top view of my design is really difficult on paper. I know it will work in 3 dimensions, but my drawing skills are atrophied at best from dis-use.

Once I get a decent set of drawings, I'll post them. maybe I'll even do a quickie sculpt over a GI Joe head to show the concept in 3-D with jpegs.

-Gordon :salute:

[ernie90125]

Cool.........I know a TOS Season 2 Helmet design that was never seen in the show was sold by Profiles in History a while ago. Are you using this for reference, or is it 100% your own ?

[spcglider]

That was probably the "Daggit Squadron" helmet. Also used at the Battle Of Galactica tram attraction.

I'm actually in the middle of refurbishing that for its owner right now (Peter Noble). Its a nice piece. Built on top of a Simpson motocross helmet.

But no, that's not what I'm basing it on.

My thought is just to streamline and update the original helmet design. Its a great design and i don't know why anyone would want to mess with it too much.

But the geometry of the thing is actually much more complex than one would think. That's why I'm having a little trouble with the justification of some of the lines on my re-worked design.

-Gordon

[peter noble]

Wow, 3D now?

This is going to be very interesting!

Best,

Peter

[spcglider]

Its just a quick way of portraying the geometry. not a finished model.

-G

[peter noble]

Its just a quick way of portraying the geometry. not a finished model.

-G

Yep, I understood, a sort of 3D sketch.

P

[Darrell Lawrence]

Where be da pics??? :D

BTW, the Daggit helmets were used in G-80 once or twice, for those not knowing.

[BlueSquad2001]

Go Gordon GO!!!! :D
If you like, I can sculpt a pilot figure for you! :salute:

[spcglider]

hey hey hey... calm down folks.

I'm on the job, but i just posted this thread TODAY. I haven't been able to plop my arse down in front of the boob toob and get all zen to the musical stylings of American Idol. That's where I do my best work! (I can ignore those stupid kids and concentrate!)

I'll get some better drawings done up and post them by mid next week.

-G

[dilbertman]

Hey G

You done yet?

Jim

[KamikazeAthena]

Done yet?



How about now?



Now?



Now???

:D

[Darrell Lawrence]

...are we there yet? :D

[spcglider]

Okay smarty-pants!

Keep it up and I'm gonna turn this thread around and head for home! You kids settle down back there and read your funny books.

Michael, I hope you appreciate me taking the heat off of you like this. Get them kits shipped quickly...it won't last for long.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

Okay smarty-pants!

Keep it up and I'm gonna turn this thread around and head for home! You kids settle down back there and read your funny books.

Michael, I hope you appreciate me taking the heat off of you like this. Get them kits shipped quickly...it won't last for long.

-Gordon
Thanks Gordon!!! :rotf:

[spcglider]

I worked on it a little last night. The side view is pretty groovy. I'm maintaining all the same visual cues as the original helmet but trying to update the overall lines just a bit.

Its not like I'm creating this thing from whole cloth... its definitely a variation on a theme. The same helmet, but made to look "faster" and more sleek.

-G :salute: :) :LOL: :D :rolleyes: ;)

[peter noble]

Bump! ;)

[KamikazeAthena]

I can't wait to see this!

Anyone know a source for the old style helmet? That guy does not seem to be on ebay anymore.

[spcglider]

Just so you all know, my drawings are done. I just haven't had time to scan them.

tease tease tease.

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

Just so you all know, my drawings are done. I just haven't had time to scan them.

tease tease tease.

-Gordon
Gordon....give me a ring. :salute:

[peter noble]

Just so you all know, my drawings are done. I just haven't had time to scan them.

tease tease tease.

-Gordon

Why I oughta... ;)

[spcglider]

But seriously... like I said, I'm not radically redefining the helmet. All the familiar elements are there and are reflected in this design. It's just streamlined a little. The helmet from the Desanto designs is far more wildly modified than mine.

In fact, one might callmy redesign rather podantic. I'll get it up on Monday if possible.

-G

[Darrell Lawrence]

Are we there yet?

[BlueSquad2001]

Are we there yet?
ARE WE THERE YET??? :rotf:

[jewels]

updated helmets, oh, will be watching this thread.:D

[dilbertman]

If we are not nice the Gordon he may not want to play with us anymore. Looking forward to your post next week.

Jim :cool:

[KamikazeAthena]

Awww! Come on! Gordon knows we love him. You only tease the ones you like!

Speaking of which.......... (I wont say it)

But I will say that I am very much looking forward to seeing more of Gordon's work.

You rock, dude!

[spcglider]

okay, sorry about this, but I'm buried this week. I won't be getting that thing scanned. I have a HUGE project to get out the door to Atlanta by Friday evening and we're not half way there. Sorry...you'll have to be a bit more patient.

-G

[peter noble]

Bump! ;)

[Darrell Lawrence]

...are we there yet? :P:

[spcglider]

Yes, we ARE there.

Tell me how to post this image.

-G

[spcglider]

SCREWY DIDDLY POO DORKUS UPLOAD PROCESS.

Anybody who wants to see it, just email me and I'll send you a jpeg. This is too much screwing around.

spcglider@aol.com

[peter noble]

Here it is:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5108/battlestarhelmet4kf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[peter noble]

Well, I like it. it's more angular and closer fitting to the head. The mic has an Ant-Man sort of feel to it and the Cobra-look of the helmet seems to be more emphasised.

Not sure about the "eagle" though.

Now, what can we get him to do next...? :LOL:

[jjrakman]

Huh. I think I like this design better that the Original's or DeSanto's.

[spcglider]

Thanks for posting that Peter.

Yeah, the bird doesn't look like what I had in mind from the front. It's supposed to be alot more sleek and streamlined, but I never did a close-up drawing. I wanted it larger and longer, but the front view makes it look fat. Didn't intend that.

-G

[spcglider]

Huh. I think I like this design better that the Original's or DeSanto's.


Well THANK YOU!!! :D

I appreciate the kind words!

-G

[peter noble]

All we've got to do now is beat him with old rolled-up copies of Starlog and make him do a full-sized one! (Can anyone wait till the 30th anniversary, I know how busy he is!) :LOL:

[peter noble]

Huh. I think I like this design better that the Original's or DeSanto's.

I like it better than those two and about the same as the G'80 version.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Looks like a GREAT design for my Cobra pilots :D

[jjrakman]

Yeah, I actually like the G80 version better than the original or DeSanto's too. I was never really that hot on DeSanto's helmet, I thought it strayed too far from the Pharoh Headress look. I like this one a little better than G80 though.

One idea I always had about updating the helmets was to have the lights on them, actually be force field generators, like in the hanger bays in Start Wars, so the helmet can double as a space helmet, rather than just having a clear acrylic visor.

[Charybdis]

I can't say it's better than the original, nothing is better than that! But it is a VERY COOL design, Gordon. Can't wait to see full size mock up of this one!

[spcglider]

Well, put on your Waiting Hat. Cuz I won't be gettin to THAT for a LONG time.

Like years.

If anyone else who is so inclined would like to give it a go, have at!

-G

[KamikazeAthena]

Can't wait to see this done! Very cool! :salute:

[BlueSquad2001]

Well, put on your Waiting Hat. Cuz I won't be gettin to THAT for a LONG time.

Like years.

If anyone else who is so inclined would like to give it a go, have at!

-G
Gordon has just given me permission to do this as a kit, to offer everyone, and it'll debut at wonderfest. Will commence construction in a day or so. :salute:
This will be offered here FIRST at the fleets! :D

[spcglider]

Maybe we title this the Colonial Fleets Custom Exclusive?

Michael, be sure you inscribe your name and mine on the original so it comes out in the mold. Gotta sign our art, y'know?

Y'all got alot of work to get done by July!

-G

[peter noble]

Maybe we title this the Colonial Fleets Custom Exclusive?

That'd be cool!

[BlueSquad2001]

That'd be cool!
Gordon, you've seen my (secret project) and know how fast it came into existence! So it shall be for this one! :salute:

[spcglider]

Jeebus Mike, I wish I had your time and energy.

-G

[peter noble]

Jeebus Mike, I wish I had your time and energy.

-G

They're actually making a movie about Michael, it's called The Man Who Doesn't Sleep! :LOL:

[spcglider]

HEY WAIT A MINUTE!

THIS MY THREAD! ME ME ME!!!!

NO MICHAEL.

GORDON!!!!

He's got his own friggin thread.


LOL.


-G

[Sept17th]

Gordon, did you get my PM?

[dilbertman]

Gordon has just given me permission to do this as a kit, to offer everyone, and it'll debut at wonderfest. Will commence construction in a day or so. :salute:
This will be offered here FIRST at the fleets! :D
Dam you two! Off to pick out banks to hit.

Jim :mad: :duck:

[spcglider]

Gordon, did you get my PM?

Yup. Its best just to email me directly tho. I don't always see the little diddly at the top of the page.

spcglider@aol.com :muffit:

-Gordon

[BlueSquad2001]

NOW IN PROGRESS!!!!!!
This will be in time for Wonderfest! It will debut with the rest of my surprises there, and these are sure to be a hit. :D
TEASE!!! Just have to wait and see. :LOL:

[Darrell Lawrence]

....grrrr!

[BlueSquad2001]

....grrrr!
You uh...wanna talk about it? Warrior? You okay?! ;)

[Darrell Lawrence]

I always growl when teased. Ask the ladies!

[spcglider]

Michael,

Can't wait to see it. Gonna be cool. If you have any other questions about the design, just let me know.

Yup, definitely can't wait to see it (and the little sign displayed at Wonderfest that says "Re-designed by Gordon Smuder- Sculpted by Michael Miles").

hee.

-Gordon (its all about me! LOL)

[spcglider]

Cuz I am EGO-MAN!!!

Just kiddin.

-Gordon

[KamikazeAthena]

I hate it when men tease me!

[spcglider]

Oh you do not. wink wink wink! ;)

-Gordon

[KamikazeAthena]

Ok, ok. You win!

:girl:

[spcglider]

Those of us who constantly tread the line between good and evil are in the best position to win!

Bwa ha ha ha!!!! (lightning flash here... thunderclap... scattering of bats flying from a castle....etc.)

-Gore-don

[KamikazeAthena]

Hon-neeeeyyyyyy,

I am still patiently waiting. :girl: (Sort of.)

Now you know what my husband puts up with!

Seriously, we are just bugging you cause we know this project is gonna rule. It is so nice to have new Galactica stuff to look forward to. Between you, Sandy, and the upcoming comic book, I am all a flutter.

[spcglider]

Actually it suprises me that nobody has taken on this sort of thing before... but I guess we needed to get to a point where most of the stuff from the original show had been replicated and made available so that the model makers (like me and Michael) would get the itch to start making "expanded universe" type stuff.

Just remember... its all for fun.

-G

[Charybdis]

EU Galactica!!!! Gordon, darn you...you clean me out with the standard Galactica stuff and now this!!! ???

Anyone know how to open up a Swiss bank account? I'm gonna need to stash some cash away for all of this....

[spcglider]

Jeez... I didn' know it was such a burden on you.

Well that's completely unfair isn't it?

Okay... I'll stop. As of now all projects are cancelled for Charybdis' sake.

You hear that Mike? Stop it with the sculpting and the casting. Its over.






LOL!!!!!!



-Gordon :viper:

[BlueSquad2001]

Jeez... I didn' know it was such a burden on you.

Well that's completely unfair isn't it?

Okay... I'll stop. As of now all projects are cancelled for Charybdis' sake.

You hear that Mike? Stop it with the sculpting and the casting. Its over.
Y









-Gordon :viper:LOL!!!!!!
You got it Gordon!!! :salute:
As a matter of FACT,.....the garbage truck is coming down the road, and I'm heading all this crap out! That means helmets, raiders, vipers, shuttles, all gone now. Oh, and we also threw in all the resin and silicone! Gordon is right! ENOUGH YOU PEOPLE!!!! :D

[KamikazeAthena]

All I can say to this is......


Is it ready yet??? :rotf:



Ok Gordon, this time I will do it for you.

"KA, you are a butthead!" :eek:


:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[Sept17th]

Yeah, is it ready yet? Me got movie to make.

[Charybdis]

Hold on, now...just cuz little ol' me can't afford all this spectacular stuff, doesn't mean you have to quit makin' it :)

[spcglider]

All I can say to this is......


Is it ready yet??? :rotf:




Hmm... what are you, invalid? You got eyes. You got hands. Nobody stoppin you from building one yerseff! :rolleyes:


GET TO WORK! :P:

-G :colonial: A.K.A. Colonial Taskmaster!!!

[KamikazeAthena]

Yes my dear but I don't have your flavor of insanity! I have a pretty little flavor of my own...

What would be a good name for a BSG inspired candy or baked good? I think I need a new creation to sell in the store.

Maybe I will start a thread ...

[spcglider]

Hmmm...BAKED helmets. Wearable AND eatable! Saving space in the cockpit by combining lunch with safety gear!

-Gordon

[KamikazeAthena]

Dear Lord! I hope my cake is not so hard it could be used as a helmet! I know my head sure is! :rotf:

A helmet cake would be pretty rad!

[spcglider]

okay...that does it. I want a Viper helmet cake for my 40th birthday. July 22nd.

So in order to deliver it you'll have to show up at San Diego Comic Con. That's where I'll be.

-G :viper: :muffit:

[KamikazeAthena]

Oh man! I could just see schelping that thng to San Diego! If we do go, I think I will have to see what I can do. It can't be hard. The shape is simple.

I give no promises that it will work if you wear it. :)

[spcglider]

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

-Gordon

[peter noble]

San Diego Comic Con. That's where I'll be.

Hey Gordon, if you're going to San Diego, you might be able to give that special thing I asked you to do for that special person to him yourself, as he goes nearly every year. ;)

Best,

Peter

[spcglider]

Yes, that special person and I have made tentative plans for a coffee break together. Sometime during the Con. He said his dinner/lunch schedule was all booked up for the show but that we might make a coffee meet-up somewhere somehow.

-G

[spcglider]

Hey Peter, you don't think that "special person" would be interested in hiring a Minnesota native as an in-house creative partner, would you? I may be available.


-G

[peter noble]

Hey Peter, you don't think that "special person" would be interested in hiring a Minnesota native as an in-house creative partner, would you? I may be available.


-G

Well, you never know.

Stranger things have happened!

P