DeSanto interview.

[Titon]

Hey guys and gals. For the last week or so i've been listening in my truck on cd the interview with Tom DeSanto. Something that i'd really like to discuss is his idea on Earth being in the opposite direction. This would be an intrigueing storyline since they'd have to go back through occupied cylon space.

Now how does everyone feel about this storyline? I for one think it would be awesome to say the least but that's just me. It breaks my heart that we may never get to see this story unfold.

I honestly cannot believe that Fox would pull the plug on this.

[Sept17th]

Tom didn’t answer his SOL continuity problem to my satisfaction but I’m sure with more time and detail he could. So with that, to bad Lorne Greene is long gone, imagine but don’t re-imagine Greene’s Adama gets the bad news. I love to see his only utterance of FRACK while Terry Carter’s Tigh consoling him.

Back through the Cylon Empire, with The Rag-Tag Fleet in tow? No thanks. Hunker down somewhere till you can rebuild a military fleet. Although Starbuck wouldn’t sweat the odds.

It would make for a lot of great CGI.

[Titon]

It would be a glorious battle!

:D

[Sept17th]

It would be no battle at all. What we would have here, my dear Titon, is what is known as a rout. A humiliation. A massacre.

[shugotenshi]

Hey guys and gals. For the last week or so i've been listening in my truck on cd the interview with Tom DeSanto. Something that i'd really like to discuss is his idea on Earth being in the opposite direction. This would be an intrigueing storyline since they'd have to go back through occupied cylon space.

Now how does everyone feel about this storyline? I for one think it would be awesome to say the least but that's just me. It breaks my heart that we may never get to see this story unfold.

I honestly cannot believe that Fox would pull the plug on this.

It would've been interesing... but could a bunch of old ships that weren't made for extended operation in space hold up for another 20 plus years for countinous operation?

[Titon]

It would be no battle at all. What we would have here, my dear Titon, is what is known as a rout. A humiliation. A massacr

That will leave a mark!

:)

[Charybdis]

You know, I have also speculated as to what if the Colonials went back to fight the Cylons again in the 12 Colonies? Would be interesting to see what happened to the place after the Cylons got a hold of them.

But, how do you think the show would ever actually end? What would be the perfect ending to Battlstar Galactica? Would they settle on Earth and lose the Cylons forever?

Would they find a sophisticated Earth and with their help, fight off the Cylons? And how far do they go? All the way back to the Colonies?

Where does this story end?

[shugotenshi]

A good ending would be...

The galactica discovering that the Pegasus found a few additional battlestars, civilian shis and military support ships after leaving the fleet after the episode living legend.

Found that Cain had madea discision to settle a planet and build more warships, and that they where stubling upon the fleet that he had built, Commander Cain would be already dead and the fleet commanded by someone else, just as it was about to launch a major offensive to retake the colonies.

Have the head officer be very cain like, and have him have a "today is a good day to die." attitude.

And then have them go off into the starsystem to battle the cylons for the colonials... fade to black...

[Darrell Lawrence]

I have a slight problem with the wrong direction thing, in that information was passed on regarding the direction from the SOL folks.

So just how could they end up going the wrong direction?

If I were to go that route, then I'd say the path the Fleet was taking, and "encouraged" by the SOL folks, is a long circular path that took them AROUND the Cylon Empire, and they are now at the farthest point away in that circle, which, twenty some-odd years later, would make it look like they went in the wrong direction.

Then rather than want to continue that long circle around the Cylons, they decide the heck with it and dive right back through the middle of them instead, thus taking the shortest route.

[Titon]

Quite honestly i would hope to see them find a way to ultimately triumph over the cylons. But hey if they did that in one movie there would be no sequels!

Finding Earth in my mind is alot less appealing than finding a way to either retake the colonies and defeat the cylon's.

Just my 2 cents

:)

[peter noble]

Logic dictates that the further they journey away from the Cylon Empire, the harder it is for the Cylons to maintain their pursuit, they're just going to over-extend themselves eventually.

Going back into the heart of darkness just means you're going to get creamed sooner rather than later, unless you've got tech to cloak, camouflage or render yourself invisible to Cylon scanners.

It'd help if you had a 14 year-old cerebal mutation to invent some cool doohickeys for you! ;)

[Titon]

Cereal mutation?

Captain crunch!

Actually there's got to be a better way to fight a battle.

;)

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I have a bit of a problem wtih this as well. Tom said the BOLs weren't quite the good guys they seemed to be. He was also going to make Serina one of them. This significantly changes their premise and makes you wonder what was really going on with Iblis. Under this setup, why did they save Apollo? Was it to be a Cylon puppet? Surely this leads into a huge grey area but you would really have to work some magic to pull it off.

What's more, given the BSG universe as already established, you wouldn't need to do this. THe books already explained that the Cylons could move planets. This is why "Ice Planet Zero" was an ice world. You could hurl a Cylon force far across the cosmos to chase the humans and establish just how much of a threat they faced. The series dealt with Baltar and a force of 3 baseships, with a 4th in Hand of God. I wouldn't mind knowing that there were three sets of three ships. You could turn the Fleet around because they were trapped between the force hurled ahead of them and the forces spread out across space to find them.

If you wanted to turn back, you could follow up on Adama's speech about fighting back. We never saw that. After the gap, with the Colonials settled and fairly well rebuilt, you could have them fight back before being driven away again. I think this would allow the stories Tom indicated to still be told without violating the premise. You could do an entire season where you thought the Colonials were making headway before they were trounced in "The Big Battle" and forced to flee again. This could begin with the Colonials doing remarkably well against a somewhat changed Cylon enemy. They'd learn more about the Cylons as they went. Then, suddenly, they run into some serious opposition, with advanced Cylon ships and machines. This would be the "other half" of the forces in the Cylon civil war ... the force that didn't loose. They would come after the humans with a vengeance.

I wouldn't care to see Apollo of Borg either. Still, I like most of the rest of what he wanted to do.


Sandy

[Titon]

One premis you could have would be the idea of *some* of the ships and survivors were left in a somewhat secured section of space along the way. If the fleet was so closely watched and the force of baseships under Baltar's command were so intently fixed on Galactica, why not slip something right under there noses?

Once the Galactica begins there journey back there could be possible hope that the hidden humans have had enough time to develop a strong military force without the cylons even knowing. Instead of the Galactica caught in an unwinable battle the cylons could ultimately be the suckers.

;)

[peter noble]

The one flaw is that there are billions of Cylons and only a couple of thousand Colonials. Even if they breed like rabbits, they're never going to be able to take on the Cylons.

Tom's idea sounds great initially, but when you really examine it, it starts to fall apart quite quickly.

[Sept17th]

"Going the wrong way" is not some deal breaker. He could tell his story with out it. It is still better sounding than GINO.

[Gemini1999]

"Going the wrong way" is not some deal breaker. He could tell his story with out it. It is still better sounding than GINO.

I don't mind the "going the wrong way" premise, but maybe Tom and Bryan had something good planned for confronting the Cylons instead of the Colonials just continually running from them.

When you get right down to it, the idea of the Cylons following 220 ships with humans for 25-plus yahren isn't too believable either, but that doesn't mean that the story still isn't interesting to tell.

Regards,
Bryan

[Winemaster]

BOL being on Iblis's side is something I would find VERY disturbing. Desanto would need to come up with one hell of an explanation for me to buy it. I could live with a return to the Colonies although it isn't something I would do myself

[Darrell Lawrence]

To be honest, when Tom does do the Continuation (no "ifs" there :D ) I doubt he'll use thesame story, since a lot of it was ripped off by Moore's version.

[peter noble]

To be honest, when Tom does do the Continuation (no "ifs" there :D ) I doubt he'll use thesame story, since a lot of it was ripped off by Moore's version.

Aye.

[shugotenshi]

I have a bit of a problem wtih this as well. Tom said the BOLs weren't quite the good guys they seemed to be. He was also going to make Serina one of them. This significantly changes their premise and makes you wonder what was really going on with Iblis. Under this setup, why did they save Apollo? Was it to be a Cylon puppet? Surely this leads into a huge grey area but you would really have to work some magic to pull it off.


I think I remember them talking about a war in the episode with count iblis... something about the ship on that planet being a vessel under his command that was shot down..

If that was the case, I could see some BOL's not being the good guys. Those that where on iblis side I could easily see being manipulative and evil.

One could take the 'fallin angel' approarch in reguards to this story.

Just a thought.

[Dawg]

That's pretty much how I considered it, too - some of the course being a deception on the part of Iblis or his followers.

Frankly, though, I think it would have been a stronger story had it been discovered that it was human error - one factor of the course calculations being forgotten, or misunderstood, or some deception - that got them onto a wrong course.

It is, however, a moot point - it will be a different story WHEN Tom gets his crack at it.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[Titon]

It is, however, a moot point - it will be a different story WHEN Tom gets his crack at it.

And he most definately will.

If you listen to the interview a little deeper it sounds like that the forces of good and evil at a higher plain would ultimately decided the outcome in the end. No matter if the colonials are severly out numbered there's still the possibility they will even the numbers in the end.

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Having the BOLs as an Iblis semi-associate or simply not the good guys they seem to be radically changes a good portion of the series. Remember, these guys pop up later as well. They hijack Apollo and then help Starbuck to prevent a relatively insignificant planet from blowing the crap out of itself. These aren't the actions of anyone set on leading those that trust them to their doom. To change their nature brings into question why they saved Apollo in the first place, which could be explained by the fact that he was destined to be the Cylon pawn from Hell, why Serina is bopping among them in the afterlife, and why they bothered to keep a Nazi-inspired nuclear holocaust from occurring.

Like I said, you'd really have to work some powerful magic to make it work.


Sandy