Another Viper Mark II

[gpdesigner]

ok so as if I didn't have enough modeling work on my plate with the new Battlestar design, I started another model last night. The Viper Mark II.
sure there are plenty out there but this one is mine . . . it will feel good to know when I do an image or an animation with BattleStar Themes . . . that the models in said themes are mine all mine . . . . ;)
3dhttp://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/galactica/viper_1.jpg

[Titon]

Looks good so far!

keep it up!

:)

[TopGun]

Doing good, keep it up

[gpdesigner]

I took a few moments away fron the battlestar and started to do some more on the Viper mII, I think this one will go faster than the battlestar . . .

I find myself getting anxious to do some space renders, I have an entire set of scenes in mind, just got to get to the end of these Meshes first before I can have any kind of render satifaction . . .

By the way does anyone know where I can find any images of the new Cylon BaseStar . . . I haven't run into any of those yet.

T

http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/viper2.jpg

[mikala]

These are some decent pics of the new basestar.
http://www.cylon.org/bsg/2003-art-05.html
I hope they help you as I don't have the skills yet to use them.
And nice progress on the Viper. Any plans to do the other new Viper?

[gpdesigner]

These are some decent pics of the new basestar.
http://www.cylon.org/bsg/2003-art-05.html
I hope they help you as I don't have the skills yet to use them.
And nice progress on the Viper. Any plans to do the other new Viper?

Thanks mikala, I spotted those the other day, I thin those are going to be the images I use to build the basestar eventually.

T

[gpdesigner]

I think this viper is going to be done before the nuGalactica is . . .
Which is good cause you know after I am done with the big ship I think I may be burned out on Model building for a bit . .
Also I think that when I am finished with this Viper, I will do one of the new Cylon Raiders, this way I will have enough to finally do some fan artwork . . . :D
you know because that is what this is all about . . ;) can't have the Colonials shooting at each other now can I. . . .

I just threw the basic sections together to have a quick look at the ship. This Viper is very clean I must say . . I still need to join some of the sections together and do cut outs in the hull so the engines will fit in and reveal some of the detail I have been doing. I think some of my proportions may be off a bit here and there, but I am not going to stress over it, if I had more source material of the Viper as I do the Galactica I wouldn't settle, however I am still building this from images off the dvd and a few images from Cylon.org, So it will have to do...

Anyway hope you like the progress I think this one is going to rock . . .

Santee
http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/fnt.jpg
http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/eng.jpg
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[TwoBrainedCylon]

This thing is shaping up really well.

Sandy

[gpdesigner]

This thing is shaping up really well.

Sandy

Thanks Sandy . . Ohhh! I forgot the attachment in my email, I just re-sent you a .doc.

With the Viper I am trying to stay true to the production design as best I can, there are a lot of different Mark II's everywhere, all are really good but have very subtail differences from the production model. Two items right off are the narrow cowling, and the squared off engine housing that sits above the pilot.

The images on your site are really good, and are providing me with decent details.
I should be done with this ship in another week or so provided nothing else drops on my plate . . . besides, this is a good break from the BattleStar . . .

Santee

[gpdesigner]

:D I know . . . . .

dang this came together pretty well I must say . . . I found some awesome images on the net at StarShip Builder (http://www.starshipbuilder.com/) .
As usual I tried to come as close to production as possible, but also threw in some of my own ideas as well. I particularly like the canopy, that puppy was custom fitted . . . .

Anyway, . . still some more details to add, and I need to fit the ship a bit more.
I figure I am about 75% done here, then it is off to the paint shop . . .

Santee

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[TwoBrainedCylon]

NICE!!!

Sandy

[gpdesigner]

Ok . . . Done . . . . :Nsalute:
The modeling part is done with the exception of landing gear, but I will do that next week . . .
Now it is off to the painters for a coat and some battle damage . .
see ya on the other side

Santee

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[Gemini1999]

I actually think that you've managed to improve on the original done by Gabriel Koerner.

When you get around to a finished version (with markings, etc.) could you do just one with a TOS style paint job on it - I've always wondered what the Mark II would look like that way....

Regards,
Bryan

[mikala]

Whoa! Looking very nice! Colour will take it right over the top.

[gpdesigner]

I actually think that you've managed to improve on the original done by Gabriel Koerner.

Thanks Bryan, don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing . . . . :)
I modeled it from images I got off of shipbuilder.com, If Gabriel was the one who made the Model for Zoic, then it was his ship I sourced from.
I actually started the viper before I had the images, and I was pretty darn close to a lot of things, my dimentions were off quite a bit in some places, but once I got the othographic views of the ship I just remade what I needed and fit the rest together . .

the old style paint job you talked about, isn't that what's on the new ships already? I will check it out and see what the difference is. but sure I can do that.

The paint job I have in mind for this is one that will match the battleStar I am building, with new ensignia and all . . . the vision I have in mind is awesome, just hope I can pull it off . . .



Whoa! Looking very nice! Colour will take it right over the top.

Thanks mikala, I can't waite to see what it looks like myself . . . .

Santee

[Cinnamon]

The pictures of this ship are what actually got me to withhold judgement and give the reimagined series a chance - I'm a hardware sort of girl, and if there's a good looking spacecraft in a show, I'll at least give it a go. The original Viper was always a favourite of mine, and its successor here was, in my opinion, one of the things the new series did RIGHT.

This model only reinforces that opinion... it's beautiful, and makes me want to fly one. ^_^

Fabulous job, Santee! Absolutely Fabulous! :salute:

Can't wait to see what she looks like outta the paint shop - it's going to be *stunning*

-jaime
(FWIW - it worked... I like the new series. I still want the old one back, but I like the new one.)

[gpdesigner]

-jaime
(FWIW - it worked... I like the new series. I still want the old one back, but I like the new one.)

Glad you like the ship jamie I am a fan of this new design also. it has a slimmer more aero-dynamic shape to it . . .
I am also glad that you like TNS as well, I too am an old series fan, and yep I think it would be awesome to have a continuation . . .
who knows . . stranger things have happened.

Santee

[gpdesigner]

Ok so a bit of background . . . .
The Battlestar that I am building is going to be called "The Achilles". The color scheme I decided would be in the hue of Steel Blue . . nice . . . :D

Anyway how this relates to the viper is in that there are going to be 2 squadrons on board "The Guardians" and " Aggressor One". As we all know one of the cool things about the Mark II Viper is the ensignia on the cowl of the ship. I haven't worked on the squadron ensignia for Aggressor One, but here is a mock up of the ensignia for The Guardians . . . the background color is going to be the color of the Viper by the way . . .

Santee

http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/insignia.jpg

[Stevew]

Excellent work Santee
S :Nsalute: :salute:

[gpdesigner]

Thanks Steve, nice to hear you say that . . . Nice Viper you built as well, I sourced a few ideas from you to put mine together.

This Viper is a very shapely design, the transition from the cockpit area to the engine section is definately sweet.


Santee

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Nice design. To conform with the scheme GINO uses, I'd suggest using yellow and blue or yellow and orange for the emblem.

Sandy

[gpdesigner]

Nice design. To conform with the scheme GINO uses, I'd suggest using yellow and blue or yellow and orange for the emblem.

Sandy

Sorry TBC, I am still new . . who is GINO?

Santee

[Sept17th]

Not who but what...Godzilla In Name Only. I let you figure out from there.

[gpdesigner]

Not who but what...Godzilla In Name Only. I let you figure out from there.

I will take a leap and say Mr. Moore, only because I know the waters I am in . .

however, because the idea of the squadron ensignia was not developed just recently, I am going to go with the norm and base it on the style of ship being used. All squadron ensignia are different in shape, content, design, color, and branch of service . . .
examples (http://images.google.ca/images?svnum=10&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&q=Squadron+insignia&spell=1) . . . .

because mine fit with the Viper scheme and the inevitable color of the BattleStar
I am going to roll with the Blue hue . . .

True yellow and Orange are like ensignia staples, I want to be odd . . . . :D

Santee

http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/ins1.jpg

http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/ins.jpg



The motto tag at the bottom says: "in this realm my vengeance is swift"

[Sept17th]

Well done and very impressive. Perhaps not a different branch of service since the Vipers are still battlestar based but another colony may go with a different paint scheme.

[gpdesigner]

Well done and very impressive. Perhaps not a different branch of service since the Vipers are still battlestar based but another colony may go with a different paint scheme.

that is very true, I meant branch as in Army Navy Air Force, Marines,
But in the Galactica realm I think it would be as you said, almost like Battle groups in real life.

[gpdesigner]

Trying to get that gun metal blue happening . . . .
Still not finished the texturing but we are getting there . . . . :bg04:

Santee

http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/tex1.jpg

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[TwoBrainedCylon]

I'm not sure if the hull is a stand-in color but if not, I'd make it more gray so your emblems stand out a bit more.

Really nice job on the modeling.


Sandy

[gpdesigner]

Well, I am going to call this Viper done . . . :Nsalute:
Finished for now anyways, I am not going to post it in the finished threads as I think I should wait until I actually put a scene together . .

There are some things I can still do to it, of course . . like weather the hull and add exaust burns to the thruster ports on the nose of the ship, then there is the Landing gear, ( almost sounds like I am not finished), but for right now she is flight worthy . . . . :D


I'm not sure if the hull is a stand-in color but if not, I'd make it more gray so your emblems stand out a bit more.

Really nice job on the modeling.


Sandy

I turned up the diffuse a bit more and lightened the hull it made the ensgnia stand out a bit more, almost like the untreated surface . . . I think when I do the Beta Squadron ship "Aggressor One" I will use the darker version of this viper with a lighter ensignia . . . that may be cool . . .

OK, back to the BattleStar . . .

Santee


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[mikala]

Slick showroom Viper...:)
A procedural on the engine thrusters? Or is it a map? I like it either way.

[gpdesigner]

Slick showroom Viper...:)
A procedural on the engine thrusters? Or is it a map? I like it either way.

Showroom Viper . . . :D
I'll bang it up later . . don't want to spoil the mood just yet . .
only image maps so far are on the decals and ensignia, everything else is in house Lightwave.

Santee

[rjandron]

Very nicely done. A very well-done mesh.

Looking forward to seeing the Battlestar come along.

[3eighty]

Your talent speaks for you...Very nice work..

[Titon]

Nice work Santee!

Listen take it from someone that's been through this, if you like the way it looks it's good enough for me.

Obviously if your doing work for someone else you have to follow there likes and dislikes. Keep it clean if you want, throw dirt on it if you like.

Great job!

:)

[TwoBrainedCylon]

Santee,

The texturing on the engines is outstanding on this. I'm not a fan of the blue paint job (yet) but perhaps it will grow on me.

The modeling work is superb.


Sandy

[gpdesigner]

Santee,

The texturing on the engines is outstanding on this. I'm not a fan of the blue paint job (yet) but perhaps it will grow on me.

The modeling work is superb.


Sandy

Thanks alot Sandy,
I think the texturing is the best part about doing a model. not only does it signal the end of the modeling process, but it brings the entire work together. I am good at texturing but I still have vast volumes to learn yet. I still don't know how to UV map or texture map, so that should give you an idea of my level. I can do a lot with image maps and procedurals, but I need to get into the technical dynamics of surfacing. Once I get a handle on that i think I will be a better surface designer than modeler.

I think for the BattleStar I may delve into texture and UV mapping. The Galactica project has tought me a lot, may as well start learning that.

Santee

[susumuimua]

ABSOLUTLY AWESOME

thanks for sharing :Nsalute: :thumbsup:

[gpdesigner]

ABSOLUTLY AWESOME

thanks for sharing :Nsalute: :thumbsup:

thanks susumuimua, going to start on a raider in a little bit . . . .
:D
santee

[infinityloop]

the model looks very good!
good luck with texturing!

[Cinnamon]

Bloody 'Eck...

Get swamped at work for a week and what do I find when I get back?

Santee, that is absolutely gorgeous! I really am in love with this little ship... she looks like she's doing half-light just sitting in the hangars, and this model captures every bit of that and more.

How hard would I have to beg for a set of LARGE orthographic and perspective renders?

Regardless, this is stunning work, and I thank you for sharing it... I'm keeping a very close eye on your Battlestar as well.

:salute:

Bravo, sir!
(BTW, *I* like the blue. :D )

-jaime

[gpdesigner]

Bloody 'Eck...

Get swamped at work for a week and what do I find when I get back?

Santee, that is absolutely gorgeous! I really am in love with this little ship... she looks like she's doing half-light just sitting in the hangars, and this model captures every bit of that and more.

How hard would I have to beg for a set of LARGE orthographic and perspective renders?

Regardless, this is stunning work, and I thank you for sharing it... I'm keeping a very close eye on your Battlestar as well.

:salute:

Bravo, sir!
(BTW, *I* like the blue. :D )

-jaime

WOW . . thank you so much Jamie,
I am happy with this the viper as well, I needed to take a quick break from the battlestar so what better way to do it.
Sure I can make some ortho images for you, not a problem, Give me a few days and I will put something together for you . . maybe some prints.
Santee

[Zinjo]

Ok so a bit of background . . . .
The Battlestar that I am building is going to be called "The Achilles". The color scheme I decided would be in the hue of Steel Blue . . nice . . . :D



http://images.graphicproduction.org/forum_images/viper/insignia.jpg

You may want to change the BSG number on the emblem, as in TNS, there are a total of 120 Battlestars, not 186.

Amazing work!! Freaking georgeous!

[gpdesigner]

You may want to change the BSG number on the emblem, as in TNS, there are a total of 120 Battlestars, not 186.

Amazing work!! Freaking georgeous!

Thanks Zingjo glad you like the ship . . .
Also thanks for the heads up on the BS Group numbers. I choose 186 because it was high enough not to be in conflict with any other BS Group number. Maybe I should drop it down to 121 ?

By any chance, does anyone know if all 120 BS Group numbers are taken and do they all have names. if not then I can drop the number inside the 120 limit and be safe . . .

good info Zinjo.


Also, . . . . this is just a side note:
I posted the Viper on a lightwave forum I frequent. The model went over well, they were impressed with it. So much so that it is up for Mesh of the Month . . . :eek:

My chances of winning are slim as the modeling talent over there is off the scale.
I am sure to be crushed . . . The contest will be fierce, they take no prisioners.
* sits alone inside battered Viper, adrift in the emptiness of space. *
Seriously though, it is quite an honor to be even amoung the group . . .
Lets just hope the " Lords of kobal " are on my side . . . . :D

Santee

[Master_M]

Awsomeness!

[Cinnamon]

WOW . . thank you so much Jamie,
I am happy with this the viper as well, I needed to take a quick break from the battlestar so what better way to do it.
Sure I can make some ortho images for you, not a problem, Give me a few days and I will put something together for you . . maybe some prints.
Santee

Oh, wow... that would be /so/ awesome. Thank you! :D

Tell me, is that the Lightwave 3D forum where you're up for mesh of the month? If so, I think you have a stellar chance of winning - there's a lot of great talent there, but this little ship is every bit as good as anything that I've seen there. I know you'll certainly have MY vote!

Cheers!

-jaime

[Don Gaiser]

Holy crap dude!!
You are amazing!!

[Nays]

nice! looks great!

[Lt. Merak]

Very Nice Job Santee

[dec2000]

very nice! Bravo!

[CPO Harvey]

Beauty ! Is she available for download? :salute:

[Slovman]

She looks about ready to tear into some toasters!

[gpdesigner]

That she does, sorry everyone who had replied to this thread, please excuse my not responding. I have been busy as heck as of late.
I have been at 3 other projects all of which have been taking up loads of time, plus I had a new addition to my family . . . . :D
My wife gave birth to an 8 pound 5 ounce baby Girl so I really have been busy.
The baby's name is Skye Angel Curtis . . . and she is absolutely beautiful.
anyway this is the story. I will get back to work soon, but for the moment time is at a premium.
gp

[SixPacWolf]

maybe that could cora like in the old series but redone for the new series lol

[SixPacWolf]

real cool, going to release it?

[coloneltigh]

looks amazing, big fan of the blue paint job, makes me think that is what a brand new off the line viper would look like, its amazing, anyway we could get a chance to download the final model? its great, i like the beat up old looking vipers but thats all we ever really see, its nice to see one that looks brand new

[Voyager1]

Wow! That's slick. Very nice work.

[magnetmage]

Hey, that model looks like it will be cool!
I want to create some battlestar art myself... just posting so I can download some stuff here!
Peace,
MagnetMage

[Smallworld]

I have just gone through all of the progress pics for this and I'm blown away! Fantastic model, really super work. I'm working on an original Viper in Rhino at the moment, about 75% done, not as good as this though. Your work is an inspiration! Bravo and very well done.

[dglidden]

A very nice model!