Glen's "Story"

[Darrell Lawrence]

So *if* Glen actually does follow through with his BG movie, I have an interesting question....

You'll have to take yourself out of the "fan box" for a moment, and think in "Hollywood Producer" mindset for this.

Even though by public appearences and such they get along, in reality Glen and Richard Hatch don't quite see eye to eye regarding BG.

Glen was upset with Richard for doing the second coming stuff (hence Glen's own 1999 failed attempt), but now Richard has a semi-regular role in the "re-imagined" version of BG.

If Glen was to be believed at Galacticon, he doesn't give a rats ass about the remake, etc, and went so far as o really put it down.

So... again, if Glen follows through with his movie project...

Will Apollo even be in it???

What's your thoughts?

Remember, try not to reply in a "fan mode".

[Eric Paddon]

For a next generation story set aboard the Galactica, the character of Apollo is IMO not essential to the making of a good storyline if personality conflicts would prevent Hatch from being a part of the effort (if, big if, there ever is such an effort). If I were told that I could only have a finite number of cast members in a next generation story, in which they would have only supporting roles, I would be more than happy with Dirk, Anne and Herb to provide continuity, have a few lines of dialogue that clear up some dangling plot threads (like establish whether Apollo and Sheba ever did get together; or have Starbuck make an aside about his father that tells us he did learn the truth about Chameleon) and recast the part of Baltar and then just plunge full speed ahead in next generation mode.

[Winemaster]

I concur with Eric's statement

[mikedx]

I disagree. Hatch is the most recognized character from TOS, and his appearance on the new series brings even more attention to him.

Since Greene has passed on, you need Hatch to step up and take the reins and be the father figure that everyone will follow. It's only natural for him to take the lead.

I think Larson would be making a mistake to let personal feelings get in the way to exclude him.

Speaking out of the box.

[Senmut]

EP for Executive Producer!

[Sept17th]

Excluding Hatch would be a mistake the core of the living cast should at least have an imporatnt cameo. Starbuck would be the most important of the orignal cast/characters to make this work.

I'd see it without a Hatch/Apollo but egos should be set a side. Think money, why alienate the "Hatchettes".

[Senmut]

Just say "$", and RH will be there. It worked for RDM.

[julix]

It may be hard for me to step out of my fanbox................ :)

I do think that there are proabaly a bunch of ego/personality conflicts in Hollywood, but that is put aside if it is deemed better in the business sense........not all the time I am sure.

[Lara]

The core characters of Cassie and Starbuck could be a backbone perspective on a major plotline, and a lot of the fill could be done in flashback or plot exposition to answer some of the old hanging plotlines. neat wrap up, recognisable characters.

High visibility for Col Tigh, a grown up Boxey, and Baltar's personality in a cylon construction.

Keep the mystery of where's Apollo for a while, and have his story (and Shebas) told as a major subplot, with an open ending. Meaty part for Hatch, keeps the continuity, and surely him and Larson can keep it civil for that much involvement..
(if they can't, make it the plot on the video game :D )
I think its a mistake to either write Apollo off quickly as dead like they did in G80, or to ignore him. The character was too important in the original.

The trick is to balance new interest with a certain amount of closure, and avoid either a nostalgia-fest or a discontinuity.
Ensure the available originals are acknowledged and advanced, in a plot with plenty of opportunity for establishing new blood, and room to move for later on.

And add lots of hot new fx..
And a grand soundtrack..

Don't look or sound cheap , and non BSG fans will come for the film event. Everyone loves an epic..



Cheers,
Lara

[Sept17th]

The trick is to balance new interest with a certain amount of closure, and avoid either a nostalgia-fest or a discontinuity.

And add lots of hot new fx..
And a grand soundtrack..

Don't look or sound cheap , and non BSG fans will come for the film event. Everyone loves an epic...

Stu has to do the score...I agree with the above.

A question should the film be shot after the demise of GINO. What GINO elements do you think will have to be in the Larson film? All of Ted's manifestations and the other twelve fans will be screaming for it.

[kingfish]

If I were in hollywood I would include the surviving cast members as well as add a few big names to the list. Tom DeSanto was on the right track. Sir Ian as Adama would have worked.

[Titon]

I agree with Eric on this one. Richard is very expendable.

A bridge to the past with a trio of the old actors is a perfect scenario. Terry Carter said at Galacticon he was ready to go whenever Glen called. Of all the actors at Galacticon he was the most cordial of them all.

[Sept17th]

I agree with Eric on this one. Richard is very expendable...

I can’t buy off on that one. Very Expendable We Purist types, those small few on the net and the greater number who peaked at GINO then thought “no thanks” have already been through enough disappointment. Apollo is huge element of Battlestar Galactica and Hatch is alive and well. Every effort should be made for him to be onboard. I believe that even though I still feel a sting every time I hear or read Tom Zarek.

Expendable…yes just not very expendable.

[peter noble]

Dirk's the most widely known actor worldwide for BSG and the A-Team, if Glen was thinking of a movie that was a bridge between the old and the new I think Dirk would be a cert. Plus Glen and Dirk have always got on well through the years.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Just say "$", and RH will be there. It worked for RDM.

Richard wouldn't be the problem.

It's Glen wanting or not wanting Richard in the movie that's the problem.

[Darrell Lawrence]

We Purist types

Well... we Continuist types think a bit differently than you Purist type :D :P:

[Titon]

Ok, i agree. Maybe very expendable was the wrong thing to say. Of course it would be a valued thing if Hatch were a part of a new Larson movie but my thinking is along the lines of Next Generation.

Richard already believes Battlestar is back with GINO. He's already stated that in interviews. It maybe time to move on without conflict. He gave DeSanto alot of static over his purposed role in Tom's continuation effort.

:)

[repcisg]

I would like to add my two cents to this. As much as anyone I too would like to see a continuation, in fact I would love to see a continuation. But I fear it will not happen. :(

Why? Simple it just isn’t in the cards. Way back in the beginning, when Galactica was being discussed, Star Wars was burning up the big screen, making tens of millions of dollars. If something like that could be brought to the small screen and big screen the potential for profit could be limitless, or so everyone thought. So Galactia was sliced and diced into small pieces, everyone associated with it wanted their share.

When Living Legend was written Glen cut a sweetheart deal, giving him full rights to that story. The studio felt Pegasus was a one shot deal and would not be seen again, so far they have been proven correct.

Now fast forward to today. Universal/NBC owns the TV, DVD, literary and Merchandising rights to Galactica, Glen owns the movie rights. If Glen were to do a movie he would need Universal/NBC’s permission to do it (it uses the Galactica universe), he could not show it on TV (with out paying Universal/NBC a hefty license fee) and most likely be unable to distribute it on DVD, unless he paid a hefty fee to Universal/NBC.

Now with Pegasus these restrictions do not exist with the exception of Universal/NBC owning the rights to the Galactia universe, Glen will still need to get their permission to do the film. But Universal/NBC or any other network would pay him for displaying the movie and he owns the merchandising rights.

So for Glen the money is in Pegasus, not Galactica.
:cry:

[Sept17th]

Well perhaps as long been expected Poppa Larson already cashed that cow. RDM has Nova Cain and the Pegasus coming this summer. The future of TOS is in fan films for the foreseeable future.

[repcisg]

I deed, perhaps podcasts are the way to go.

[Eric Paddon]

If the only story Glen could do would be Pegasus oriented then I would have only two words to say: FORGET IT!

[kingfish]

Richard needs to be in a continuation and not as a cylon agent. Tom did that to work him into the story.

[kingfish]

If the only story Glen could do would be Pegasus oriented then I would have only two words to say: FORGET IT!



On this point, the only successful Pegasus story would need to include Jeff Bridges as Commander Cain since there is a striking resemblance between him and his father the great Lloyd Bridges.

[repcisg]

Because of the passage of time Glen could go for an entirely new cast. All the notable cast had moved to the Galactica leaving Cain and an unknown number of crew when last seen.

He has an almost clean slate to work with.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Richard needs to be in a continuation and not as a cylon agent. Tom did that to work him into the story.

"The Second Coming" trailer had no Starbuck in it.

Kinda funny, actually...

In "The Second Coming" trailer, Apollo says "Starbucks alive. I know it!" etc etc and decides to go and try to rescue him from the Cylons.

In DeSanto's version, it's Apollo that's missing and gets rescued from the Cylons.

[BST]

If the only story Glen could do would be Pegasus oriented then I would have only two words to say: FORGET IT!


At this particular point in time, it appears that this may be the case. Too much expense to run with a TOS Galactica only storyline and this would probably making financing very difficult, i.e., limited return on investment.

On the other hand, Glen's hands wouldn't be tied, so to speak, with a Pegasus storyline. There would be less upfront expenses which may make financing a bit easier to secure since lower expenses increase profit. Also, since financiers are not likely to be die-hard fans like us and don't know the differences in the 2 universes, they will probably look at TNS as actually proving that there is an audience for a potential Pegasus movie which, according to many of the TNS folks' very own words, would be true.

Now, if Pegasus were to be wildly successful at the box office, the TOS universe could find itself in a driver's seat for the first time since 1978. Universal may find itself re-negotiating some of the Galactica contract terms with Larson and who knows what that outcome could be.

I realize that this line of reasoning is full of "what-if's" and "maybe's" but, we need to think outside the box and not put too many constraints on what might be.

We could very well get TOS Galactica back, through Pegasus, and with a little help from TNS.

Wouldn't that be sweet?

For me, as long as ANY Battlestar held to the themes, concept, and ideals of the TOS universe, I'd be happy.

[Eric Paddon]

A Pegasus project or story just doesn't interest me. If it were made I'd just get restless waiting for whatever obscure throwaway reference to the Galactica and its crew happened to be made in the course of the story and wouldn't have any reason to pay attention to the story itself, and *then* I'd have to cross my fingers and wait patiently for something good to happen to get TOS continuation for real for more years?

After 25 years of showing more patience than I cared to, to see a project done that could genuinely interest me, I personally have no intention of cutting any slack for a project that I know will not excite me just as Hatch's novels and GINO don't excite me. And a Pegasus story falls square into that category for me.

[BST]

Eric,

Apparently, you have certain standards for what you would consider a return to the TOS Galactica universe. I can respect that, even if I feel that you are severely limiting your options.

As I mentioned, earlier, I really don't care HOW we get TOS Galactica back in the limelight, as long as we do. Whether we would use Pegasus as a vehicle for that ultimate goal, it matters not, as long as the ultimate goal is achieved.

We have waited 26 years, on hope, on something intangible. If Larson is able to run with a Pegasus movie and, in the long term, prove the viability of a show based on the ideals, etc of TOS then, he's got my support. Period. I don't view that as forgetting my original wants and desires, just using a different path to get there, that's all. I'd hitch my wagon to something tangible, over something intangible, any day of the week.

[Titon]

Pete to be honest i really wish we could expand on the Warthog version of the 2003 BG game. What they did as far as a storyline and overall look of the game sent chills down my spine. They stayed true to the Galactica universe. Although it was animation it to me was the first tangible Galactica product since the original.

And i mean that sincerely. In fact i stood next to the designer of the game at Galacticon and he was severly perturbed at Universal and scifi when it came to the design of the game. Originally there was nothing to do with the new mini series, it was strictly TOS. They made him change aspects of the game to fit with the new series. He was not a happy camper.

:)

[Eric Paddon]

I've been too immersed in the realm of fanfic for too many years to ever have limited options in terms of what I can enjoy. But for the medium of what gets professionally done, whether film, comics or novels, I feel I have to raise the standard of why I should regard what emerges from there as more special than the average fanfic, and so far I've seen nothing that could ever excite me or make me think it will be more worth my time than what the amateur writer can craft.

[BST]

Pete to be honest i really wish we could expand on the Warthog version of the 2003 BG game. What they did as far as a storyline and overall look of the game sent chills down my spine. They stayed true to the Galactica universe. Although it was animation it to me was the first tangible Galactica product since the original.

And i mean that sincerely. In fact i stood next to the designer of the game at Galacticon and he was severly perturbed at Universal and scifi when it came to the design of the game. Originally there was nothing to do with the new mini series, it was strictly TOS. They made him change aspects of the game to fit with the new series. He was not a happy camper.


Yep. I hear ya. :)


Clearly, some of the elements portrayed in the Original show do possess a certain timeless quality.

[BST]

I've been too immersed in the realm of fanfic for too many years to ever have limited options in terms of what I can enjoy. But for the medium of what gets professionally done, whether film, comics or novels, I feel I have to raise the standard of why I should regard what emerges from there as more special than the average fanfic, and so far I've seen nothing that could ever excite me or make me think it will be more worth my time than what the amateur writer can craft.


Eric,

There is so much of this that is "Unknown" that any judgments, either good or bad, cannot be made at this time. There is simply not enough information to work with. Who knows, maybe the "standard" will already have been raised.

Shouldn't we, at least, wait until it is shared with us, before 'critiquing' it?

[Eric Paddon]

I don't begrudge anyone who would watch a Pegasus movie for the same reason I don't begrudge those who read Hatch's novels or watch Moore. It's just a case where I choose to remove myself from the ranks of the cheerleaders for any such project because like those other two projects do for me, they start from badly flawed foundational premises (Hatch's novels and their appalling lack of continuity and consistency; Moore, I don't need to explain that) that automatically inhibit my ability to enjoy them no matter what their production values.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Guys guys!

Back on topic please ;)

[Eric Paddon]

I wasn't aware that we'd gone off.

[BST]

Neither was I.

Hey Eric, let's go round up a few pies and toss 'em at him!

:D ;)

[Darrell Lawrence]

...ummm Whether Glen would have Richard in his new movie isn't the same subject as "is Glen going to make Pegasus or Galactica".

[Eric Paddon]

The subject thread is Glen's "Story" which encompasses both whether he'd have Richard or not if the story happened to be Galactica centered, but since it appears to still be possible that he's fixated on a Pegasus story I think it falls under the same category.

[BST]

Ok, Mister!

That's 2 pies for you --

SPLAT!

SPLAT!

:D

RUNS

[Titon]

Glen for some reason will not give up the Pegasus storlyine!

In fact the very issue has infuriated DeSanto on many occassions.

:(

[Darrell Lawrence]

Eric, who started the thread? I do believe the thread starter would know what the heck the subject matter of the thread is.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Here-
http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11304

[BST]

Eric, who started the thread? I do believe the thread starter would know what the heck the subject matter of the thread is.

:P:

[Eric Paddon]

The thread title I think spoke volumes since it's "Glen's Story", not "Should Richard Be In It Or Not", and then in the natural course of the conversation, the matter of Larson still being interested in a Pegasus story came up. Hardly seems like an OT deviation at all since it's all related to the general subject of a prospective Larson project.

[larocque6689]

Ever since Desanto and Singer - I've come to the belief that neither Richard Hatch nor Glen Larson should helm any continuation. I didn't care for "Battlestar Atlantis", and I didn't care for Hatch's novels (with their emphasis on Jedi powers, Iblis and biological Cylons). To Richard's credit, his vision of a continuation is a hell of a lot closer to my idea of where they should go than anything Glen has offered us.

I'd also like to credit Susan Paxton's research into Galactica's origins (specifically, the Leslie Stevens factor) plus the unaired season two outline for furthering my drift from the Larson camp.

Outside of Galactica, Larson has put his name on some forgettable children's entertainment. I read somewhere that Glen's talent is coming up with some great ideas for television pilots, but then he disappears and lets other people run with them.

[nextceo]

With so many wanting Glen to bring something of TOS back to the big screen, is it just me or do people have selective amnesia? A few years ago people were upset because he was going to work with Moyer of Wing Commander fame. Everyone was screaming that Glen wanted to reimagine the show and would do dasterdly things to TOS, like many said about Moyer and Wing Commander, particularly because he was working with him. Now all of a sudden Glen is the savior? I guess I just don't buy it.... I'm all for Glen bringing whatever vision he has to the screen, it is his creation, however, it just seems weird how there was all this handwringing before about his bringing his vision to the big screen (particularly with the Pegasus IMAX concept). Is it just that TOS only fans hate TNS so much that they will take anything they can get, or do people really want to get the best TOS project they can?

[Darrell Lawrence]

Chris Roberts?

It was Todd Moyer of Wing Commander that Glen was working with.

[nextceo]

Chris Roberts?

It was Todd Moyer of Wing Commander that Glen was working with.
Soorry Warrior you are correct, I went back and edited my post, good catch!!!!!! ;) :thumbsup:

[Darrell Lawrence]

Talk about selective amnesia... Chris Roberts... hmp! ;)

Actually, MOST of us are rather iffy about what Glen might do.

You might say we're in a "Heard all this before. Show me instead." mode.

[Sept17th]

Glen for some reason will not give up the Pegasus storlyine!


If Poppa Larson cut some “sweet heart” deal and Pegasus is his how is it that GINO will be doing its own “homage” second half of the first season?

Because its on television? Does this post need a different thread?


EDIT: I found the thread for this.

[Senmut]

I've been too immersed in the realm of fanfic for too many years to ever have limited options in terms of what I can enjoy. But for the medium of what gets professionally done, whether film, comics or novels, I feel I have to raise the standard of why I should regard what emerges from there as more special than the average fanfic, and so far I've seen nothing that could ever excite me or make me think it will be more worth my time than what the amateur writer can craft.


And some amateur writers have crafted better, EP. As we ourselves have seen.

[repcisg]

Papa Larson’s Pegasus is part of the TOS universe, TNG was supposed to be a wholly new universe separate from his. But Glen demonstrated to SAGE that it was based on his original work and therefore he was entitled to writing credits to TNG.

This leave Pegasus as the only viable TOS project available and with its limited fan support, the necessary financing is simply non existent.

As for written stories, Fan fiction and Richards books are all we are going to get, some of it is better than most commercial works and some of it could use some real help.

[jewels]

repcisg,
I remember someone asking this at Galacticon and Glen assuring people he had the use of anything from the Galactica universe he wanted to use including Starbuck and Apollo (original characterizations). All the original cast members attending that Friday night were standing around him at the time. I find it interesting that he hedged to the side of "wait & see" on the new miniseries in 2003, but in 2005 he's mentioning he still wants to do his movie.

It was too early to know how or if GL's consulting producer credit with the series would effect that. I have heard he is someone who always was protective of his creative rights so chances are his deal protects those for him. Actually, I almost expect that the 2nd Battlestar and it's commander in TNS end up with a court-ordered name change at the last minute. (Hey, it just would be something to go right along with the rest of the legal shenanigans of nearly 30 years over BG).

I don't know that the fan support is "limited". I think the internet support base is "limited" but the casual fan type support in the whole population—what makes the megablockbusters happen—that I suspect is there as long as a quality story with up-to-date FX is done.

On a really positive day, I could see NBC (the we bleed advertising revenue, #4 network) making a deal with him to do a TV event that brings the main originals back and intros the next gen as a backdoor pilot. I could see them doing it because of how well ABC's Happy Days reunion show was received and how well Dick Van Dyke's new little episode was received in the past year. It would be almost a desperation move on NBC's part to try to get a movie night with a rating. Stranger things have been broadcast, flaky as my idea seems.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Wish I could find the thread at CA, but I had a good discussion regarding a continuation and those Happy Days ratings with (I think it was) antelope.

[KJ]

Can't believe you had this discussion without me Warrior, after all Glen Larson did say it to my face. (and to people at his talk at the LFCC-3 on Saturday apparently)

So here i come with my two cent on the matter.

Seperate from being a fan, i'd have to say. If i were an executive.

I'd get both Hatch and Larson together in a room knowing that Hatch was in the series as the star and Larson cos he was the series creator and producer. As an executive i'd have to work with them to iron out the feud they have together and work out whether or not either one can fles out a positive reason why i should greenlight a movie continuation based on the series Battletstar Galactica in the first place.

Both have their own visions which both camps need to be brought together for everyone's benefit or i'd have to go with the best concept version along with any scripts and possible budget that would be worked out from either parties.

I honesty view this as another development hell scenario and it wouldn't be any different cos of the rights issues. Larson owns the movie copyrights but only the Pegasus storyline and all its characters. Universal Studios/Sci-Fi Channel own the Television rights. And several others like DeSanto and And Moore would want a piece of the movie pie Deanto cos he loves it can Moore cos Universal wants money and would put any product out there with Nu BG (GINO) stamped on it. Etc :rolleyes:

My personal take on it as a fan, would be to.

Get Larson and Hatch together, but under a proven producer like Tom DeSanto and workout a deal with Universal Studios to produce the Battlestar Galactica movie features under one roof. With larson's Pegasus copyrights also that roof rather than being 'independent' with no real direction to go in.

1) Use Hatch's ideas like the Galactica being under Apollo's Command

2) The Supercylon Basestars concepts, Scarlet vipers, Azure Vipers (from the novels), his new characters etc.

3) Put in Larson's Battlestar Pegasus along with her characters and continue her storyline as it should be within the new movie.

4) And finally, Add in DeSanto concepts under that same roof. With his colonials living on the asteroid story along with the President Mara character, Boomer teaching the young new warriors, Starbuck still a rogue but fun living pilot trying to live up to his "unwanted" living legend status around the colonists. The hybred human/gladiator looking Cylons. The whole space battle sequence in his script etc.

5) Also add DeSanto's 'Mark 4' Vipers but just have'em as the Pegasus' new styled Vipers is all! Along with Mike McAdam's designs on the viper like his; Assault Vipers as the Pegasus second squadron.

A combination of all three working together rather than the infighting that going on over the matter.

Basically put at the end of the day. Larson needs to talk to Richard Hatch. Hatch needs to tell the fanbase while he is in GINO. He truly loves the classic Battlestar Galactica enough to be in the movie. And he isn't alienating anyone in doing the TV series, it was just work, work he's proud of but still just work at the end of the day. DeSanto needs to put his stamp on this as 'Executive Producer', and Larson can take the role of producer and have his official title of "based on series by creator" Glen A Larson. For the sake of arguement for the fans Lesile Stevens also gets a co-creator's credit. (yeah i know it would never be that easy due to the ranglelings copyrights)


I agree with this said in an eariler post.

I disagree. Hatch is the most recognized character from TOS, and his appearance on the new series brings even more attention to him.

Since Greene has passed on, you need Hatch to step up and take the reins and be the father figure that everyone will follow. It's only natural for him to take the lead.

I think Larson would be making a mistake to let personal feelings get in the way to exclude him

Indeed!

Also.

Outside of Galactica, Larson has put his name on some forgettable children's entertainment. I read somewhere that Glen's talent is coming up with some great ideas for television pilots, but then he disappears and lets other people run with them.

That was in "Galactica Revisted" i think Laro.

KJ

[Darrell Lawrence]

Can't believe you had this discussion without me Warrior, after all Glen Larson did say it to my face. (and to people at his talk at the LFCC-3 on Saturday apparently)

Discussed what without you? The Larson/Hatch "feud"?

[KJ]

Not in a 'i'll kill you kinda thing' but you know, just not agreeing on things Galactica wise is all.

Discussed what without you?

This topic bud.

KJ

[Darrell Lawrence]

Well gee... having been Richard's webmaster before way back when and knowing Richard's side of things, and having seen/heard Glen talk before, and having read the "barbs" between the two in articles back in 1999, I didn't realize I needed your permission to start a discussion topic regarding their differences and as to whether or not Glen would even have Richard in a BG movie.... ;)

[KJ]

Whats wrong with this place. Its too uptight! One lighthearted comment and you post that?

Fair enough.

Oh and technically all those reports I'VE read in magazines from Dreamwatch to TV ZONE talked about Hatch and Glen having a troubles working out the direction Galactica should go in during the late 90's. So i wouldn't care if you were Richard's "house maid" i know what i know cos, it exists in Ink on a page in letters o.k bub.

Don't question what i know o.k. Its simply respectful manner between members.

And your not the only one to see and hear Glen and Richard talk. Whatever that means to you i.e. are you an "Elitist" club member? Then quit the attitude already. Being Richard's webmaster doesn't make you a mind reader o.k. I'm not comparing myself to you or anybody else in regards to who knows what, got it?

KJ

[Darrell Lawrence]

KJ, do you know what a ;) is for?

Good f'n gawd, man! Lighten up! :LOL:

Geeze....

...and yes. I am an "elitist". Just ask anyone :P:

[Winemaster]

Have Cain find Terra for an extended stopover for repairs and resupply, he takes on some Terrans who get trained and become replacement crew members.

[Titon]

Get Larson and Hatch together, but under a proven producer like Tom DeSanto and workout a deal with Universal Studios to produce the Battlestar Galactica movie features under one roof

Not possible. It's already been tried. Larson want's all the credit. Believe me and he doesn't want to share the limelight with DeSanto.

And keeping away from the fanboy mentality Richard is a non factor. Of course he spent countless hours working on the second coming trailer which i give him HUGE kudo's for but the only players in the whole scenario would be DeSanto and Larson. Richard would just muddy the waters. Unfortunately that's not being mean it's being realistic.

;)

[Sept17th]

If I had push one out the airlock..........................Larson.

I believe DeSanto understands Battlestar Galactica not sure about Larson any more. DeSanto pulls more weight and would have to compromise less.

[David Kerin]

For this to come together I agree that creatively Larson should team with DeSanto. I don't think Larson alone has the credibility to pull together a major motion picture, but with DeSanto I think it can be done. Who knows, if enough time has gone by and Singer is available to direct, that may be the final thing needed for production to move forward.

I would be very happy if the DeSanto story/concept was used, however the only thing I didn't like was the "oops, it seems we were going the wrong way all these years... Earth was in the opposite direction." Other than that it seemed like a great combination of old and new. I want to see that match strike and follow it up to Starbuck (testis in tact) light that cigar.

[jewels]

What David K said. All the way down to lighting the cigar. ;)

[Fragmentary]

Is DeSanto even a factor in these discussions anymore? His continuation series fell apart and his attempts at the animated series didn't get off the ground. And if Larson is the man with the controlling rights to take Galactica to the big screen, then I don't see how DeSanto even fits in anymore.

At this point it's all up to Larson, and I really don't think that guy has any pull in Hollywood. That's because he's been semi-retired for years now, and that's not a swipe at him in any way. He was very successful and deserves to relax and take it easy now.

But at this point, unless someone new steps into the picture that Larson is willing to let run the show, the continuation seems to be on the shelf indifinitely.

[Darrell Lawrence]

I believe DeSanto *can* be a factor in this.

Just as Glen would want to team with the "hot" :LOL: Todd Moyer years ago, he needs to team with a hot producer of today. And DeSanto would be that person.

At Galacticon, Larson *did* have high praise for DeSanto's efforts.

[Fragmentary]

But as Titon pointed out, Larson doesn't really seem to have much interest in sharing the limelight with DeSanto. And minus the access to Glen's movie rights it just doesn't seem like Tom has any cards left to play. A couple of years ago at a screening of the theatrical print of the Galactica pilot, Larson was asked about working with Tom and he said he'd be interested, but in the time since Tom went on to try to make the animated thing happen. I think we can probably assume that he never would have done that if he and Larson had actually been able to work out a way to go forward together.

[Darrell Lawrence]

AActually, Larson had more to say regarding his BG project that many tend to over-look or forgot about: The Knight Rider project comes first, THEN he's talking BG.

So no... I don't think DeSanto would be out of the picture at all.

[Darrell Lawrence]

To clarify, what that means is Larson is busy with Knight Rider, DeSanto does something else in the meantime.

When both are free, then it's very possible they could work together. And funnily enough, a certain director might be free around that time frame as well.

[Gemini1999]

The one thing about whichever player(s) are involved, interviewed or even just asked a question... On the surface, they're always going to say that they would be willing to work together. It's the Hollywood mantra - never say never (at least in public). Behind the scenes, it's a completely different story - that's where the egos come into play and people do what they do when the deal is made - no matter what discussions that took place before.

We could talk about DeSanto, Larson & Hatch all day long and we could still be wrong as to how it will eventually happen, when and if it does. It isn't up to us and it's all purely speculation I know what I would like to see and who I would like to see behind it, but I'm not the guy that has the money and makes the decisions.

I'll just be happy when it finally does - it's like waiting for the "Great Pumpkin" to rise out of the pumpkin patch....

Best,
Bryan

[Darrell Lawrence]

Of course it's all specualtion, Linus. That's why this is a Discussion board :P:

Now be careful waitig for that Great Pumkin... I heard Snoopy patrols the skies around that area at night and his night vision isn't that good in telling an interloper apart from a peanut :D

[jewels]

That would be because his Sopwith Camel isn't equipped with night vision goggles.

I too think anything could happen. The CFF guys aren't off their rocker asking for folks to write Universal's Family Home Video folks for a direct to DVD continuation movie. My dad always says the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Jewels