View Full Version : AICN Reports on possible TOS Continuation Movie (original post 06-28-05)
Sci-Fi
June 28th, 2005, 03:41 PM
A new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Feature Film? (http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=20603)
Caution: Do *NOT* read the "Readers Talkback" section if you wish to avoid the arguments.
:salute: :Nsalute:
Gemini1999
June 28th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Wow!
From Glen Larson to KingJason to the Cylon Alliance to AICN and now here...how fast news travels!
Titon
June 28th, 2005, 05:19 PM
I'll believe it when i see it.
;)
Eric Paddon
June 28th, 2005, 06:02 PM
I have been burned too many times over the years to take anything to be optimistic over something like this. And if Larson is doing this, all I can say is, he'd better have a better story idea than what was attached to his name in the past.
Titon
June 28th, 2005, 06:30 PM
And if Larson is doing this, all I can say is, he'd better have a better story idea than what was attached to his name in the past.
Eric this is one of the major reasons he still hasn't gone anywhere with Galactica. He's got this thing about the Pegasus that he will not let go of. That's been his downfall from the begining.
Eric Paddon
June 28th, 2005, 07:36 PM
If he's sticking to that idea, he will never have my support.
BST
June 28th, 2005, 07:45 PM
I don't begrudge Larson the Pegasus story but, not right now. It's way too soon for that storyline. He needs to focus on the Galactica and RTF. THEN, for a second or maybe third movie, bring out the Pegasus. There's a whole lotta story to tell before we see the Pegasus again.
nextceo
June 28th, 2005, 09:17 PM
To me this is a major problem with TOS and Galactica in general, no matter what people do, there will be those who hate it because it isn't what they want. I personally think that Larson would get more viewers with a Galactica story not a Pegasus story, but he is the series creator.
Its just like the DeSanto production, there were a lot of people who did not like it either (although no where near as many who do not like the Larson - Pegasus idea. You might as well call it Battlestar Pegasus). Seems like the most support was for an idea like The Second Coming, although there are those who blast Hatch for not keeping the proper continuity. It seems like no matter what is done, there will be people who are unhappy. :(
gmd3d
June 29th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Most people want a Galactica story and not a Pegasus in my thinking I want Galactica.
But it good news lets hope
Senmut
June 29th, 2005, 12:41 AM
Well, in a yahren or so, we'll see, won't we?
julix
June 29th, 2005, 05:36 AM
Well, in a yahren or so, we'll see, won't we?
Yes we will.......good point. I do think that the majority of fans can be happy with a Galactica story............we are no different then any other sci-fi fandom as far as having different ideas for what we want.....look at Trek or Star wars...........
Titon
June 29th, 2005, 06:24 AM
Good points Juli.
Problem for me is that these writers come up with great stories but along the way the seem to *F* them up.
It's like taking a test, choosing and answer, erasing it and putting something else. Go with what you first came up with and ride that silver dollar all the way to hollywood. Quit second guessing what you have right in front of you.
:)
Sept17th
June 29th, 2005, 06:55 AM
First, Larson needs to remember its called Battlestar Galactica. It is the story of The Rag-Tag fleet being guided by the Galactica to Earth. Hell, even Moore got that part right. Also keep in mind we are getting an AWSOME Pegasus multi-part episode later this year :thumbdown
Second, there was a lot of support for DeSantostar Galactica and had it been aired would be doing much better than a 2.7 share.
Lurkerzrule
June 29th, 2005, 07:02 AM
I truely hope this comes to pass.
It has been 20+ years since anything has been done with TOS. Is there any reason Larson (or Moore for that matter) will not enlist the help of some of the more learned members of this fandom to consult with before creating and writing something that is going to completely go against the feel and premise of the original. ( And no I don't want the 70's feel, but if I don't get a haircut soon I'll will fit right in with the 70's crowd :P: )
Oh well, at least I got the ole' cylon head to grace my dvd player until I see if anything happens with this story.
Great Info. :thumbsup:
julix
June 29th, 2005, 07:25 AM
Good points Juli.
Problem for me is that these writers come up with great stories but along the way the seem to *F* them up.
It's like taking a test, choosing and answer, erasing it and putting something else. Go with what you first came up with and ride that silver dollar all the way to hollywood. Quit second guessing what you have right in front of you.
:)
So true.........
Titon
June 29th, 2005, 07:39 AM
Second, there was a lot of support for DeSantostar Galactica and had it been aired would be doing much better than a 2.7 share
I still can't believe how close we got only to have disaster happen.
Truely a very disappointing setup. PLUS the financial backing was a lot stronger with FOX than the scifi channel.
Fragmentary
June 29th, 2005, 11:58 AM
This would mean more if Larson would stop making the same statement at every single public appearance that he makes, year after year. I'll be alot more impressed when this news comes out of the mouth of a new producing partner with some actual pull in Hollywood. At this point, I seriously doubt Larson could still a get a TV show on the air, much less something into theaters.
CommanderTaggart
June 29th, 2005, 01:42 PM
I still can't believe how close we got only to have disaster happen.
I hear you, brother. These GINO-heads will never, ever understand that. :(
Titon
June 29th, 2005, 05:43 PM
I remember listening to Tom DeSanto discuss how excited he was to finally bring Galactica to the screen the way it should have always been.
As many of you have heard over and over his panel at Galacticon had everyone including yours truely on the edge of there seat when he explained his series bible. Yes he had the first year already written and rough drafts of the first 5 years. It truely was both a glorious and sad day for me.
But we did get to have a round table with him in the hotel lobby until 2 am! He is truely a great sport.
Thanks Tom.
;)
Sept17th
June 29th, 2005, 11:08 PM
I remember listening to Tom DeSanto discuss how excited he was to finally bring Galactica to the screen the way it should have always been...his panel at Galacticon had everyone including yours truely on the edge of there seat
I was nearly in tears no kidding. To see what I wanted for 25 years and know it will never happen.
But we did get to have a round table with him in the hotel lobby until 2 am! He is truely a great sport.
That also finally seeing The Second Coming was worth the $300 pass price and drive half way accross the country.
nextceo
June 29th, 2005, 11:44 PM
I hear you, brother. These GINO-heads will never, ever understand that. :(
Many of us understand, particularly those of us who were involved in trying to get a continuation. It frustrates me that many TOS only fans like to put TNS fans into some little box as if we hate TOS and don't want a continuation. That couldn't be farthest from the truth. :wtf:
Fragmentary
June 30th, 2005, 02:41 AM
I hear you, brother. These GINO-heads will never, ever understand that. :(
Precisely Nextceo.
Who exactly is this comment supposed to be in reference to? Members at another board perhaps? The percentage of TNS fans who aren't also TOS fans here at Fleets is incredibly tiny. The vast majority of our membership that enjoy the new series also enjoy the old. GINO-heads :rolleyes: here at Fleets understand all of that very well. Comments like this only serve to be dismissive of their place in the TOS fandom. Liking the new show, doesn't negate their passion for the old one.
martok2112
June 30th, 2005, 07:40 AM
Hmmmm.....I love Original BATTLESTAR GALACTICA and still support the idea of a continuation movie.
I love New BATTLESTAR GALACTICA and support its continuing episodes on the air.
Last time I checked...that made me a BATTLESTAR GALACTICA FAN.
I think the good Commander may have simply been referring to those TNS fans who do nothing but blast, or disregard the original show. I hope I am correct in that assessment. However, if all fans of TNS (regardless of whether or not they still love the original show) are being lumped as so called "GINO-heads" then :P:
:D
Respectfully,
Martok2112 :salute: :Nsalute:
Darrell Lawrence
June 30th, 2005, 10:42 AM
As I stated at CA-
The best way to keep Larson going on this is to keep reminding him of THIS time frame he mentioned.
So wherever he makes appearances, there need to be TOS fans as well to bring it up.
Eric Paddon
June 30th, 2005, 11:10 AM
GINO heads can also be a term to quite tellingly refer to the people responsible for the production of GINO, and I think its safe to say that we know that the last thing they would ever have any reason to give support to is a TOS project, especially given the open disdain held for TOS by the people responsible for GINO.
Within the Commander's definition it also refers to the kind of person I knew at a list I no longer belong to. Someone who insisted that all of Galactica fandom *must* embrace TNS/GINO because it's all we've got left, and that there is no way TOS ever could have been continued at all etc. etc. etc.
As for Larson, hearing him make another promise of some project for the umpteenth time in the last decade with no results either tangible or worth pursuing based on his story ideas floated before, instantly makes me want to cue up Jerry Orbach from the cast album of the 1968 Broadway musical "Promises, Promises" when he rips into the title song:
"Promises, promises, I'm all through with promises, promises now!"
RESULTS, Glen. Give us RESULTS and I'll stop being so cynical, but you've burned us once too many times already to think you can immediately inspire confidance with this.
jewels
June 30th, 2005, 11:52 AM
I was nearly in tears no kidding. To see what I wanted for 25 years and know it will never happen.
That also finally seeing The Second Coming was worth the $300 pass price and drive half way accross the country. You were down in the lobby too?
Oh, well. My hubby deserved some time that weekend! Now I can be insanely jealous of one other person I know!
Darrell Lawrence
June 30th, 2005, 01:21 PM
GINO heads can also be a term to quite tellingly refer to the people responsible for the production of GINO, and I think its safe to say that we know that the last thing they would ever have any reason to give support to is a TOS project, especially given the open disdain held for TOS by the people responsible for GINO.
Within the Commander's definition it also refers to the kind of person I knew at a list I no longer belong to. Someone who insisted that all of Galactica fandom *must* embrace TNS/GINO because it's all we've got left, and that there is no way TOS ever could have been continued at all etc. etc. etc.
Eric, Taggart's referrence, nextceo's reply and Frag's reply had NOTHING to do with you or this thread.
From what I quoted, all I see is someone trying to fuel some fire that isn't there.
Refrain from doing that please.
TO EVERYONE- Keep it ON subject. There is no need to "classify" anyone on this thread subject, as the subject of this thread has nothing to do with "fan classificiation".
nextceo
June 30th, 2005, 01:24 PM
GINO heads can also be a term to quite tellingly refer to the people responsible for the production of GINO, and I think its safe to say that we know that the last thing they would ever have any reason to give support to is a TOS project, especially given the open disdain held for TOS by the people responsible for GINO.
If you go over to CFF you will see that RDM is a financial contributor. :Nsalute:
Darrell Lawrence
June 30th, 2005, 01:37 PM
nextCEO, please refer to my post to Eric, only sub your name for him and his name for you.
Thanks.
KJ
June 30th, 2005, 02:54 PM
Haven't been here in a while have i? :salute:
Hi everyone (mainly to those i don't see over at cylon.org)
Yep, the Larson thing got its doubts packaged along with everything we do want of of a Galactica movie revival. I kinda wished i asked about the CFF thing and bought my magazine with th ad to show Glen Larson what fans like me want to see out of him owning the film copyrights to a Battlestar Galactica film franchise.
Guess that slipped my mind when i rushed out the house to go to the convention.
Then again it was a signing not a Q&A. although i heard there was one on Saturday. So unless you went to that, you'd be stuck with just asking a few questions like i did and buying an autograph from old Glen. Who, say what you want is a gentlemen in real life.
Some of you mouthing off about him even for justified reasons, wouldn't be able to act that way towards him in real life with all the frustrations. Sure ask him your burning questions and his ability to actually do something that has always been in doubt since 1993 as you all say. But the man responsible for even doing BG got more of my respect than Ronald D Moore, Bonnie Hammer and David Eick who "shat" on most TOS fans dreams of seeing a continuation revival happen after Singer and DeSanto's Galactica was over. And should have been continued instead.
I even just got a reply e-mail from dark horizon's Garth Franklin after i sent an e-mail to him about last Sunday's events. he pretty much said what some of you have said. (is he a closet BG fan?) Yes he is in a way? And he too doubts Larson's ability to pull this off.
Can't say i blame you.
But i wouldn't be so vocal about it. If larson's agents or friends were watching let him se that your discussing ways to go about it rather than hearing your all against him cos.
1) His Battlestar Pegasus idea didn't pan out.
2) Or his Battlestar Atlantis trailer idea for the IMAX
Guess with time we all change. My perspective maybe different cos i now have met him close up. And BG wasn't the only series he did that i enjoyed.
All i'm saying is. Think on this but don't go all 'ape' over it in a negative way that alienates any possible reason why Glen Larson shouldn't try yet again to get a Battlestar Galactica off the ground that could possibly kickstart a movie franchise for the TOS Galactica in the long run.
While i kick myself for forgetting to tell him to hook up with Tom DeSanto in a producers role. And do Galactica together. Its something we all should push for now being he has said it to some extent and is now being put in a position more or less by his own admission to do this within 18 months?
Think on these things please.
Guess an upcoming letter writing campaign may begin soon again eh?
KJ
:) :thumbsup:
Eric Paddon
June 30th, 2005, 02:54 PM
"From what I quoted, all I see is someone trying to fuel some fire that isn't there.
Refrain from doing that please."
There was no "fueling the fire" on my part. I only registered my own take on what that kind of characterization can legitimately refer to as it was introduced by someone else and I stand by my own characterization of it completely.
nextceo
June 30th, 2005, 04:22 PM
nextCEO, please refer to my post to Eric, only sub your name for him and his name for you.
Thanks.
Good point Warrior... :mushies: Care for a fresh plate of mushies? :D
Titon
June 30th, 2005, 04:40 PM
You have good points KJ.
And welcome back, its good to see you agaiin.
;)
Darrell Lawrence
June 30th, 2005, 06:13 PM
KJ, very fine points. Thanks for bringing them up.
Gets my brain churning on some ideas....
If anyone has a copy of the CFF ads and will be at a Larson apearance, ask him to autograph it! :D
Senmut
June 30th, 2005, 10:50 PM
LKJ, shouldn't that be FOUR barfing heads?
cobrastrikelead
July 1st, 2005, 07:20 AM
Fans.
Hopefully, Larson will deliver.
But he could come up with a bang-up story, special effects, and a movie that could make a couple hundred million, and there is still the chance that Hollywood would decide that they didnt want to make it. The fickleness of the film-industry.
But perhaps fickleness will work in our favor this time.
dilbertman
July 2nd, 2005, 11:01 AM
I remember listening to Tom DeSanto discuss how excited he was to finally bring Galactica to the screen the way it should have always been.
As many of you have heard over and over his panel at Galacticon had everyone including yours truely on the edge of there seat when he explained his series bible. Yes he had the first year already written and rough drafts of the first 5 years. It truely was both a glorious and sad day for me.
But we did get to have a round table with him in the hotel lobby until 2 am! He is truely a great sport.
Thanks Tom.
;)
First, let me say I hate you, I would have killed to be down in the lobby to 2am with you and Tom and any other's there. Second, love your work, and hope one day you and Tom get to show us what was planned.
Jim ;)
Darrell Lawrence
July 2nd, 2005, 02:46 PM
*debates posting the photo of me and T.D. together...*
...nah... Jim'll kill me most likely :D
Gemini1999
July 3rd, 2005, 08:37 AM
*debates posting the photo of me and T.D. together...*
...nah... Jim'll kill me most likely :D
Well,
I want to see it and I won't kill you for it!
Please!
Bryan
Titon
July 3rd, 2005, 10:16 AM
Thanks for the kudos Jim.
Dont' worry, i'll never stop working on the good stuff. :)
As far as the lobby goes Tom is one personable individual. I actually got to sit with him at dinner and show him a slide show from a laptop computer of the Galactica ships a friend and i have been building in cg. Let's just say we had an assembled crowd around the table. After that we discussed quite a bit about the new series coming out.
Around midnight a crowd of us went down to the lobby. The party up stairs got kind of stale. We ended up first with Jack Stauffer and his wife. Man is that guy hilarious! Anne Lockhart was there also. As the evening progressed the circle of chairs got bigger in the lobby. Tom sat in while we discussed alot of fun stuff. I mean the man even had on a TOS t-shirt! One experience i'll never forget.
;)
dilbertman
July 3rd, 2005, 12:40 PM
Thanks for the kudos Jim.
Dont' worry, i'll never stop working on the good stuff. :)
As far as the lobby goes Tom is one personable individual. I actually got to sit with him at dinner and show him a slide show from a laptop computer of the Galactica ships a friend and i have been building in cg. Let's just say we had an assembled crowd around the table. After that we discussed quite a bit about the new series coming out.
Around midnight a crowd of us went down to the lobby. The party up stairs got kind of stale. We ended up first with Jack Stauffer and his wife. Man is that guy hilarious! Anne Lockhart was there also. As the evening progressed the circle of chairs got bigger in the lobby. Tom sat in while we discussed alot of fun stuff. I mean the man even had on a TOS t-shirt! One experience i'll never forget.
;)
Thanks for the story. Hopefully I will be able to see Tom at San Diego Comic Con in a few weeks. It would be great to see Peter Jackson team with Tom to do Galactica?
Jim :thumbsup:
martok2112
July 3rd, 2005, 12:43 PM
Tom DeSanto, I could see. Peter Jackson? hmmmm....his thing is monster movies, or fantasy movies involving monsters.
I ain't quite ready to bow before PJ just yet. :)
Darrell Lawrence
July 3rd, 2005, 02:33 PM
*debates posting the photo of me and T.D. together...*
...nah... Jim'll kill me most likely :D
Well,
I want to see it and I won't kill you for it!
Please!
Bryan
http://www.colonialfleets.com/darrell/darrell_tom_oct262003_t.jpg (http://www.colonialfleets.com/darrell/darrell_tom_oct262003.jpg)
dilbertman
July 3rd, 2005, 02:44 PM
http://www.colonialfleets.com/darrell/darrell_tom_oct262003_t.jpg (http://www.colonialfleets.com/darrell/darrell_tom_oct262003.jpg)
Warrior, I would not kill you for posting that pic. Have one just like it, but I'm next to Tom. Hope to get another in about a week and a half at San Diego.
Jim :hack:
Darrell Lawrence
July 3rd, 2005, 02:47 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I believe you were off to the side of us at the CF table with Richie Levine? (when my photo was taken, that is)
dilbertman
July 6th, 2005, 01:08 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I believe you were off to the side of us at the CF table with Richie Levine? (when my photo was taken, that is)
Yes, that was me.
Jim :salute:
Darrell Lawrence
July 6th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Hey Jim... if you do get a chance to spend a bit of time with Tom, ask him if he saw the CFF ads and if he hopes to have BG in his future, etc ;)
dilbertman
July 9th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Hey Jim... if you do get a chance to spend a bit of time with Tom, ask him if he saw the CFF ads and if he hopes to have BG in his future, etc ;)
Will do! And if there are any other questions you want me to ask, let me know before the 13th.
Jim :salute:
ernie90125
July 9th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Will do! And if there are any other questions you want me to ask, let me know before the 13th.
Can he confirm who actually owns the theatrical rights to BSG ?
Firstly it was said that Glen Larson owned them. The I think Richard Hatch commented that it was unsure. Then a lot of us started saying 'presuming' Then Glen Larson has given the impression one will be start in 12-18 months, but he's said that before, and before he was rumoured to have bought the rights.... Confirmation would be good....
Also, further to the CFF related question.....what in his eyes could fans npw do to increase the chances of getting a Continuation movie...?
GreggAllinson
August 12th, 2005, 08:43 AM
I hear you, brother. These GINO-heads will never, ever understand that. :(
Speaking as a fan of both Galacticas, believe me, I understand.
larocque6689
December 19th, 2006, 05:09 PM
Meanwhile, it's been 18 months since the announcement.
Does Glen really want to do something with his theatrical rights or doesn't he?
BST
December 19th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Meanwhile, it's been 18 months since the announcement.
Does Glen really want to do something with his theatrical rights or doesn't he?
Not while he's collecting a royalty check, for doing nothing. ;)
Now, when the paychecks stop....maybe then, we'll see some action.
Sept17th
December 20th, 2006, 12:15 PM
Exactly, I believe he'll stop collecting checks early next year.
KJ
December 22nd, 2006, 07:38 PM
Well its been around 18 months since i and other U.K. fans met Glen Larson and heard him say he'd do something with the Battlestar Galactica copyrights in 18 months time.
Time's up! :blink: :...:
Guess between now and early January 2007 many serious questions will start to be asked of him on those developments!
Hopefully Tom DeSanto name will be raised when Larson talks of finding any producers or collaborators to work with etc when classic Galactica is brought up in any future discussions by fans and enquiring minds.
KJ
jjrakman
December 22nd, 2006, 07:42 PM
Hey KJ, where all that awesome news and preview pics and links for upcoming stuff you used to post?
Eric Paddon
December 22nd, 2006, 10:11 PM
Sheesh, after all this time how's about changing the thread title and keep me from thinking the title refers to something *new* that's about to happen????
Senmut
December 23rd, 2006, 02:31 AM
Think of it as "The Power of Advertising", EP.
Worked, didn't it?
KJ
December 23rd, 2006, 10:01 PM
Hey KJ, where all that awesome news and preview pics and links for upcoming stuff you used to post?
Come on, how can you even ask that these days, when there's nothing to go on. Since the re-imaginning came about, british and U.S. magazines and websites don't talk about the original Galactica's revival efforts not since post 2003 anyways after the sci-fi channel's mini series came out etc.
Just as i'd like to report on possible Classic Battlestar Galactica events, i can't if nothing swings by me or website links offer up nothing at all now can i? If nothing's revival wise is happening in a production somewhere's i can't report on it.
Not until Larson does something with the "movie series only" copyrights he currently owns.
After 18 months i wonder what the excuse is. I've got him on camera saying so at the London ComicCon in Earl's Court back in June of 2005. And even showed it to several of the original cast members at Birmingham's Memorabilia last year of all things, so its not like he could refute what he said. He's a nice gentleman don't get me wrong, but even several of the original cast of BG weren't bowel over to hear his claims last year either just as fans reacted to the news in the same way etc.
But until September 17th of 2008 rolls around, anything could happen i say. And since Glen Larson owns the film rights to Galactica. Any develop on it is bound to be continuation driven with some vast scope, budget and direction intended for it. If Larson's wise enough, he'll oversee the project as a creative consultant and let a talent person like DeSanto be executive producer and steer Galactica back to the big screen as big sci-fi action franchise. And an possible success will allow Larson to producer more of his famous and popular TV series to life on the big screen in future adaptations (if he regains the rights to them through various loopholes?)
Until i'm in range of a star from the classic BG series, producer/writer/associate at a event, film premiere, convention etc, and until something is going on and actually happening. I can't report on any continuation of Galactica period. Only thing i suggest is finding out what Larson's doing currently or keeping track of DeSanto during his Transformers webblogs on TF websites and ask him via online chats etc.
Try any tactic you can if you're near enough somebody from any previous revival attempts (Larson's or Singer's and DeSanto's BG) or know of some way to contact or talk to somebody who might know of their future projects, get close enough to an 'inside man' and you might be in luck at getting some vital information on what either man is planning ahead on, who knows?
Tom DeSanto probably going to conventions to promote Transformers sometime in 2007 before June/July rolls round. Fans might be able to meet up with him and ask him about any future Galactica development intentions on his behalf (if he still can?). And Glen Larson might be at events in and around L.A. which Cinescape and Cinefantastique like to keep track of, so there's always some opportunity to see a window of advantage in real life and ask these people in person.
And of course there's always mail (letters) you can post isn't there! ;)
Even if Michael Bay makes Transformers a watchable big screen summer sci-fi action flick like Independence Day, which will have plotholes and something won't be quite right for fans of the classic animated series. Judging from the recent trailer though, it looks great enough to warrent major box office on opening day/week. So i'd day with that in mind, perhaps DeSanto should be asked one thing of the executives, once TF hits it big the studio should "greenlight" his next set of project('s) without any hesitation!
And surely reviving classic "Battlestar Galactica" as the next major epic sci-fi movie franchise, is at the forefront of his mind!
KJ
P.S. And i'd also like to know what original creation of his own would he produce himself that he'd like to do as a movie.
jjrakman
December 23rd, 2006, 11:11 PM
No, I meant like stuff for upcoming movies and new TV shows. You used to post news about all kinds of stuff, not just BSG. I kinda miss that.
KJ
December 23rd, 2006, 11:59 PM
Well i still do give you fine people here at CF the heads up on entertainment news. I'm just not as frequent with it as i used to be is all!
Whether it be films, TV shows or animation, you know KJ knows something and is always on the look out per se.
;)
I've got some recent Fantastic Four news lined up so stay tuned. I've yet to put out my long overdue Superman 2: Donner cut review and offer up a few tipbits to next years films and animation shows/movies. But i know Christmas will be lukewarm and posting online during Christmas will no doubt continue after Monday, so yeah KJ got a few things to run by you all if you're all interested!
Thanks for asking, as always Jjrakman you're cool! :cool: :thumbsup:
Laters, and if it means anything to ya, *Merry Christmas*!
KJ
oldwardaggit
December 26th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Personally, I'm looking more forward to the up coming fan projects , The Exodus series and The 14th colony.
They are of the up most in professional quality and both are adding to the original Galactica Universe.
If and when Glen does a Galactica movie, I will be behind it 100% unless it has anything to do with Moore's version.
It's nothing personal against any of Moore's fans, I just have absolutely no interest in it and to me, it's not Galactica.
I'm not expecting Glen to have the movie in the can by the 18 month marker however I would be a little happier to see something
showing some sort of progress. A script finished or locations being scouted out.
The latest thing I see that Glen is coming out with is a new knight rider movie but it says that it's still in pre production and that
could mean that it's not coming out at all but I hope it will because I like that series also.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384254/
OWD
KJ
December 26th, 2006, 02:48 PM
I'm not expecting Glen to have the movie in the can by the 18 month marker however I would be a little happier to see something
showing some sort of progress. A script finished or locations being scouted out.
I agree!
Exactly, something showing some sort of progress wouldn't hurt. Its so painful for fans looking back thinking how close Singer and DeSanto version was to being a reality, back in 2001 and the hatch revival efforts etc.
But folks are very picky with Glen Larson and for good reason. Cos of past rumored attempts not turning out well. The Battlestar Atlantis trailer descriptions never came out, back in 2000 when fans wanted to know more of the production details (CF has the pictures now though) when news of his then movie adaptation was rumored to have a "showcase trailer" for investors/studio executives etc. Plans for a revived Battlestar Galactica as a movie seen on the IMAX by Glen Larson was grand at the time, but the IMAX wasn't as widespread 6 or 7 years ago (and still isn't today anyhow) and only the majority of Warner Brothers films come out at the IMAX anyways (other studios will get a piece of that cake one day?). And his Battlestar Pegasus movie revival concept attempts with Todd Moyer and the Walking Vipers' idea didn't exactly set long time Galactica fans alight with mouth watering anticipation for a big screen movie version of the original series.
I too was expecting to hear of pre-production either starting up or some news to drop around by now. News on early script drafts, rumors of plot ideas, early designs and Larson making an announcement of sorts.
If its indeed true that Larson owns so few copyrights to his old TV shows of the past. Why wait around and not get busy developing something with them. A finished movie to be done 18 months after statements made by him to fans at a convention isn't what i expected but i do hope, he does something with those copyrights that he owns. We've all wondered for years, if the rights only refer to the 'Pegasus' storyarc of the 2 part Living Legend episode. But thats not something to fret over about, i'm sure the most talented writer hired could make it viable fo the Battlestar Galactica core themes and characters to be involved somehow with some crafty writing?
I'm sure Larson does more than receive checks from the Sci-fi Channel (or whomever?) and has other projects he's been working on.
Time we saw hollywood finally announce a Galactica movie of some kind that Larson's copyrights entitles him to make, no more damn excuses, nothing from industry types telling us why this and that can't be done today. Fans of the classic Battlestar Galactica series have been kicked in the teeth long enough, many long time "Development Hell" projects are finally getting movies made in hollywood (look up the Watchmen for example?) after legalities are sorted out. And surely every dog has his day, right?
Will 2007 be the year fans knock on Larson and Universal's door again in loud protest and demand what they've wanted for so long and been denied? Should fans tell those entertainment market researchers to shut the hell up, and give fans what they've been asking for but idiotic 'bean counters' have claiming its not viable in today's market place.
Fans will see, or they'll finally let it go and do it for themselves via fan made and produced flicks. And distribute non-profit movies for everybody?
KJ
oldwardaggit
December 26th, 2006, 08:11 PM
Will 2007 be the year fans knock on Larson and Universal's door again in loud protest and demand what they've wanted for so long and been denied? Should fans tell those entertainment market researchers to shut the hell up, and give fans what they've been asking for but idiotic 'bean counters' have claiming its not viable in today's market place.
Fans will see, or they'll finally let it go and do it for themselves via fan made and produced flicks. And distribute non-profit movies for everybody?
KJ
I agree, My only problem is this
When we first did all the letter writing along with doing things like signing petitions and such, Moore's version ended up being announced with Bonnie Hammer making a statement that their version was what the fans wanted.
We were used to help create a buzz for the Galactica name only .
I remember asking Moore in a post on the sci fi channel way back then if he did any research to find out just whether a Galactica fan base still existed and if they did, what did they want. He said that he didn't realize a fan base still existed because he didn't believe in doing research.
He said something like,( he thought about doing a continuation but to be honest
it just didn't interest him and in the end, he had to do what he thought was right.)
Then he asked me to give it a chance. After that I replied with something like (I thought about giving it a chance but in the end, I had to do what I thought was right so I won't be watching)
My fear is that if we did get back in the game and really pushed for a continuation once more, would it once again just mean promotion for the Galactica name to the point where things pick up for Moore's production and that version ends up with the movie?
I could be wrong but if there is some way to promote the original Battlestar Galactica along with anything that is true to that property, I will most definitely be on board in a big way or as time now allows just as some may remember that I once was back in 2001.
In closing, I would like to apologize to Don and the mods here for touching on some subject matter that shouldn't be posted any more on this board. I respect that but had to use a little to make a point about promoting the original Galactica.
Keep up the great job KJ :)
OWD
KJ
December 27th, 2006, 04:14 AM
Thanks old war daggit! :salute:
I've always tried to be positive about Galactica coming back and that film studios in general eventually come round to what people demand of want of them.
1) I along with everyone else who's a fan, didn't think Warners Brothers would ever release or allow the Richard Donner cut of Superman 2 in our life times. Last month the Donner cut finally came out on DVD also with the 14 disc ultimate Superman DVD boxset of movies.
2) Did people ever think we'd ever get the Battlestar Galactica original series with so many extras along with long rumored deleted scenes we've only ever seen from trading card stills and photo's.
Well its been over 3 years and the set still doing good in sales on amazon.com and play.com
3) For years The Lord Of The Rings Books were thought to be unfilmable? 3 years ago one of the great epic movie trilogies of all time, came to a fantastic end!
4) Superman long 'development hell' revival attempts was nearly messed up by being envisioned as a 'Death of Superman' story by Tim Burton. A Superman who doesn't fly, wears a a black suit, fights polar bears at the north pole garbage. Then there was the JJ Abrams script which defies description, and the whole McG and Brett Ratner misfire. Finally this year we got a true to the 'source materials' revival fom Bryan Singer of the 'Man Of Steel'.
5) Watchmen starts production early to mid of next year?
6) Robotech is coming back. On DVD, TV broadcasts and satellite/cable. (despite the delays)
7) If Dean Devlin gets his way. MGM will continue the Stargate movie storyline arc from the 1994 first film and have two sequels produced which follows on from the unfinished trilogy he planned out with Roland Emmerich (hopefully next year's ComicCon will reveal all?).
8) I Am Legend, the long delayed adaptation of the book comes out next year. Something that was originally planned as an Arnold Schwarzenegger vehicle movie years ago. This time starring Wil Smith.
Basically all those points are things fans should see and ear mark as positive examples of how supposely things wanted to come to be, by people. And how anyone could use a fine example like this in a new arguement, that if say the particular words Can't happen, not viable, won't happen, now's not the right time come out of a naysayer producer or executive's mouth. Then they don't have a clue whatsoever to what you want, nor know what people want to see.
But the example layed out stand by their accomplishments by themselves.
As they say. It's usually the people who don't want you to succeed in life that hamper you with negative nonsense and make brainless excuses. in the past 3 years i've moved on from thinking what that other production on television is currently doing, and i've thought of several ways how things you can imagine are being done by creative people both in and out of the industry are doing it.
Hollywood loves to make money (who doesn't?) and i'm sure once the B.S. of other people's in the TV/cable industry, is out of the way. Larson's seperate movie rights of BG could be put to good use.
In closing, I would like to apologize to Don and the mods here for touching on some subject matter that shouldn't be posted any more on this board. I respect that but had to use a little to make a point about promoting the original Galactica.
Same here, only needed to make a few points guys.
KJ
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