How would you start a continuation series?? (plot outline)

[Centurion Draco]

This is kinda being discussed over at Cylon.org at the moment, but I wanted to see what the warriors over here think as well.
So, basically, how would you start the 'continuation' if you got to be TV god for the day?

Here's my ideas:

Obviously Richard Hatch would now be military Commander of the fleet.

Terry Carter, would be president of the council of the twelve.

Laurette Spang, Chief Medical Officer
Noah Hathaway, field Medic
Herb Jefferson, Commandant Colonial Academy
Robo Daggits everywhere!! (animatronic, no chimps in them!)
As many of the original cast in senior roles as they can pursuade to sign up!
New cast members for the next generation of young warriors!

I think that after this amount of time some 'rearming' of the fleet would have had to have been attempted. Specifically the addition of at least one or two capitol class warships to supplement the Galactica.
I see these as being:
(1) the Celestra, retro fitted with a hanger bay pod linked to her forward shuttle bay/docking bay. She would be the perfect ship for this because of her military origins and high levels of existing electronics and surveillance equipment. I would like to see her under the command of Anne Lockheart.


All the original ships would have undergone some retro fitting, re-fitting, and changes from their original designs.


(2) A Cylon 'Base Star':
Which Starbuck encounters after the events of G80. This ship would be a survivor of the losing side in the Cylon civil war caused by the internal differences over the endless pursuit of the Galactica, and the influence of Iblis. It would have fled into self imposed exile, it's crew decimated in the final stages of the civil war and would now consist of several dissident IL series Cylons, with a couple of hundred Centurions and a Gold command series or two. These Cylons would feel that they represent the only remaining 'true' elements of the Cylon race, and would see Iblis and the 'new Cylons' as far more of a threat than the remains of the humans.
In fact, they would have come to realise that the influence of Baltar, his knack for self preservation, and some other of his human aspects are in fact the very qualities that they will need to develop in order to survive and to reverse some of the damage that Iblis' influence has caused.
Whilst they are hiding, repairing the 'Base Star', and trying desperately to agree on the best course of action to preserve the remains of the 'true' Cylon race, let alone be able to use their machine intellects to 'think outside the box' and survive on their own, Starbuck appears on their scanners in a hybrid ship made from scavenged colonial and Cylon parts, armed with a totally new outlook on the possibilities for the evolution of the Cylon race caused by his experiences with Cy.
Upon capture by the dissident Cylons, Starbuck senses the change in his captors attitudes, and try's to 'cut a deal'.
The Cylons, deprived for the first time of the certainty of their lifelong logical service and unflinching loyalty to the 'greater cause' are beginning for the first time, to feel an emotional response: that of loss and hopelessness.
Starbuck (A legendary warrior, respected even amongst the Cylons as a canny adversary) with his altered perceptions of what the Cylons are capable of, and his sheer force of personality, seems to be the answer to their problems and the obvious 'model' to teach them how to survive.
Perhaps unfortunately for Starbuck, this rapidly makes him a figure of some reverance if not worship for the dissident Cylons, and he rapidly becomes a figure of almost mystical significance to them, being seen as a messiah like figure who can not only teach them the qualities they need to survive, but also reconnect them with their true nature, lost since their creators were polluted by Iblis' illogical evil, and they 'forgot' that their true nature was to if not serve organics, certainly exist alongside them.
Thus Starbuck eventually becomes leader of the dissident Cylons high council, and true to his word, strikes out to find allies, safety, and the Galactica, picking up survivors/stragglers etc along the way, and helping the evolving dissident Cylons to rebuild their squadrons using hybrid Cylon/Colonial technology.
Thus the 'Free Cylon Alliance' is born.

This role reversal for the reminants of the original Cylons puts them almost in the position of the colonials in 'saga'. However, it gives gives a huge scope to expand this side of the story, not only along the same lines as the classic 'Baltar and Lucifer' exchanges that were some of the high points of the original series, but also allowing for the possibilities of these remaining Cylons seeking to find traces of their own organic makers and ancestry. Whilst all the time trying to learn the 'tricks' of life and survival from Starbuck. While he in turn seeks to teach them some morality, and to limit the negative side of their nature. This could involve some 'mind probes' and uploads of Starbucks neural net.


In the meantime the homeworld Cylons have fallen completely under Iblis influence, and he has 'redesigned' them, making the original classes redundant (extinct).
The new classes of Cylon would suit modern CGI better, being more the kind of 'titanium' skinned killing machines we expect nowadays, with more built-in weapons both energy, projectile and blade.

His obcession with destroying the Galactica has not faltered, and he is exerting a huge influence over the new Imperious leader whose new Centurions are hunting the Galactica across the galaxy.

These three plots would run separately through the mini-series pilot, culminating in the Iblis Cylons cornering the Galactica, Starbucks Dissident Cylons (and by now mixed crew of Cylons and organics of various races) intercept the Cylon communications and arrive in time to influence the tide of battle with their own new hybrid technologies adaapted from the various races who have joined them.

Setting the scene for a continuation series.

[Fragmentary]

You've obviously given this some thought. I respect the ideas and the Cylon stuff is interesting. But...

Nothing has really changed in the last 25 years? The fleet is still looking for earth and nothing the Cylons have done has defeated or even deterred the Colonials? That right there takes a great deal of the dramatic tension out of the show. Even with Iblis and an upgrade to the Cylons, if none of the previous upgrades or schemes made in the last 25 years have stopped the Galactica, then how much of a threat are the new ones going to appear to be?

Any story that picks up 25 years later has to explain the intervening time. And it has to be more compelling than cosmetic changes and cast upgrades. Something needs to have happened to the fleet after all that time, there needs to be a reason for picking the story up now at this point in history. I prefer the idea that the colonials settled down at some point and now have to resume their quest. That makes for a better starting point to the story. Without some impetus to update the viewer on the quest at this exact moment, then you don’t really have any reason to even include the 25 yahren gap.

[AJMarks]

How would I do a continuation?

Let's see:

1) I would try and put Tigh as the commander of the fleet with Apollo as the second in command.
Starbuck, if Dirk was willing to come back, would be the trainer of all new viper pilots and in charge of all viper squadrons.
Sheba has since retired from the military and is married to Apollo, perhaps I would put her on the council of the twelve don't know.
Boxey would be a commander of the one of the Galactica's squadrons.
Cassiopia is married to Starbuck and together have a daughter who is joining the viper pilots.

I would probably intruduce a new group of pilots to indicate a new younger group coming into the group. Probably a mix of two guys and gals who would be the main focus of the pilots along with a mix for the rest of the group.

2) The fleet would have lost some ships due to age and wear and tear to them. There would have been upgrades to the vipers and other ships of the fleet and including, perhaps the creation of a manufacturing ship.

3) The Cylons would have undergone a change or upgrade. Faster centurions with stronger and more capible basestars.

Baltar would be with the Cylons, as his brain is transplanted to a new IL series Cylon.

4) The storyline. I think I would introduce a new group of aliens into the mix. Maybe ones that are at war with the being of light? Galactica and her fleet get caught up in the middle with the Cylons beginning to close in with the help of the Cylon Baltar.

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head. :salute:

[Centurion Draco]

Nothing has really changed in the last 25 years? The fleet is still looking for earth and nothing the Cylons have done has defeated or even deterred the Colonials? That right there takes a great deal of the dramatic tension out of the show. Even with Iblis and an upgrade to the Cylons, if none of the previous upgrades or schemes made in the last 25 years have stopped the Galactica, then how much of a threat are the new ones going to appear to be?

Um, plenty would have changed. The colonials would have changed into essntially a nomadic spacefaring race, their ships, would have evolved from mundane liners, agro ships, and freighters etc, into much more specialised ships, suited to deep space exploration and obviously with additions etc to accomodate the hopefully growing population. Others including even members of alien races could have been picked up along the way, and the respite afforded by a prolonged Cylon civil war would have allowed the colonials to become slightly complacent, with the Cylons becoming more akin in the minds of the young to the 'bogey man' than a real and present danger.


Any story that picks up 25 years later has to explain the intervening time. And it has to be more compelling than cosmetic changes and cast upgrades. Something needs to have happened to the fleet after all that time, there needs to be a reason for picking the story up now at this point in history. I prefer the idea that the colonials settled down at some point and now have to resume their quest. That makes for a better starting point to the story. Without some impetus to update the viewer on the quest at this exact moment, then you don’t really have any reason to even include the 25 yahren gap.


Addama says that the quest to find earth could take many years, even generations. Its not realistic to imagine that the 'lost' planet Earth, whose location is not known to either the twelve spacefaring Colony worlds, any of the myriad Alien races that they are in contact with, or for that matter the vast and Galaxy spanning Cylon empire could suddenly be found easily.
Teh Universe is a big ole place, and at times they don't even seem to know what Galaxy Earth is in, its just as likely that they'd simply never find it.
The time gap is unimportant aside from wanting to include cast members from the original series. 25 'yahrens' or 50 (seeing as they have longer lifespans than we do) it wouldn't matter.
There would be such scope for the inclusion of new ideas, different technologies, new characters, old characters, new alliances etc, changes in the political climate not only of the colonials but also the Cylons and their lengthy civil war culminating in what essentially amounts to the genocide of the original Cylon race by Iblis 'altered' Cylons, not to mention the sub plot of Starbuck and the surviving 'progressive' original Cylons, that it would be difficult to know where to begin in filling in the background on how so many titanic changes have come to pass!
Of course there would be some current adventure that the colonials are engaged upon, but thats really just an aside to the main course which would be the dramatic tension engendered by knowing that at some point the great forces of the now supremely adapted nomadic Colonial fleet is going to be found by the new generation of demonically corrupted and evil Cylons! With the wild card being Starbuck and the dissident 'Free' Cylon alliance, and the obvious questions of how far they can be trusted, how much influence Starbuck has had on them and visa versa.
I would particularly want to explore the psyche of the original Cylons, as we know that they are not simply logical machines, and their brains in fact emulate in many ways their original creators. It would be great fun to reverse their fortunes and have them compelled to quest for the very qualities they have so carefully removed from themselves in order to survive in competition with the more advanced new Cylons.


But anyway, I don't want to just dwell on my little ideas, or bother to defend them ;) Its just a bit of fun, and I wanted to hear other peoples dreams of how the continuation should be handled.

[Centurion Draco]

How would I do a continuation?

Let's see:

1) I would try and put Tigh as the commander of the fleet with Apollo as the second in command.
Starbuck, if Dirk was willing to come back, would be the trainer of all new viper pilots and in charge of all viper squadrons.
Sheba has since retired from the military and is married to Apollo, perhaps I would put her on the council of the twelve don't know.
Boxey would be a commander of the one of the Galactica's squadrons.
Cassiopia is married to Starbuck and together have a daughter who is joining the viper pilots.

I would probably intruduce a new group of pilots to indicate a new younger group coming into the group. Probably a mix of two guys and gals who would be the main focus of the pilots along with a mix for the rest of the group.

2) The fleet would have lost some ships due to age and wear and tear to them. There would have been upgrades to the vipers and other ships of the fleet and including, perhaps the creation of a manufacturing ship.

3) The Cylons would have undergone a change or upgrade. Faster centurions with stronger and more capible basestars.

Baltar would be with the Cylons, as his brain is transplanted to a new IL series Cylon.

4) The storyline. I think I would introduce a new group of aliens into the mix. Maybe ones that are at war with the being of light? Galactica and her fleet get caught up in the middle with the Cylons beginning to close in with the help of the Cylon Baltar.

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head. :salute:

Sweet! I'm loving it!
Cyborg IL Baltar!!!! :salute:
I get a vision of Lucifer with a brain floating in his transparent dome instead of the purple rope light!!
(You'd probobly want something better than that for a new series I guess, its just what sprang into my head when I read it.)

[julix]

draco.....
you have some great ideas!!!!!!!!!! Very well thought out. I did always see Boxey as a pilot though!

[Centurion Draco]

draco.....
you have some great ideas!!!!!!!!!! Very well thought out. I did always see Boxey as a pilot though!

Thanks Julix.
Notice I gave Sheba her own command ;)
As for boxey, After watching the DVD extras and seeing him interviewed, I just can't see Noah killing anyone, he seems just too 'nice'. He comes accross as more scientific or medical to me? Perhaps he could be in charge of cybernetics? Making more robo-daggits etc??
Come on then, how would you write the first chapter of the continuation?

[AJMarks]

I think the first part, episode, chapter would deal with the introduction of the new characters. Have a few in a new viper class that Starbuck is teaching.
Show a divided council, one part that wants to settle down, the other continue going, led by Sheba.
Council now governs fleet and military. Show that by haveing council member on Galactica's bridge watching every move that Tigh and Apollo make.
Introduce the new 'alien' race as one that seems to be nice and helpful.
Over all plot of the first chapter would be a secret plot by civilians to take over a several ships to head to the nearest planet to colonize it. They are tired of traveling in space and want to settle down. The conflict threatens to esclate into total civil war amoung the fleet and with a divided council it would be up to a few calm people to make a hard decision about the fleet.

Again just stuff off the top of my head.

[Centurion Draco]

I think the first part, episode, chapter would deal with the introduction of the new characters. Have a few in a new viper class that Starbuck is teaching.
Show a divided council, one part that wants to settle down, the other continue going, led by Sheba.
Council now governs fleet and military. Show that by haveing council member on Galactica's bridge watching every move that Tigh and Apollo make.
Introduce the new 'alien' race as one that seems to be nice and helpful.
Over all plot of the first chapter would be a secret plot by civilians to take over a several ships to head to the nearest planet to colonize it. They are tired of traveling in space and want to settle down. The conflict threatens to esclate into total civil war amoung the fleet and with a divided council it would be up to a few calm people to make a hard decision about the fleet.

Again just stuff off the top of my head.


I really like the idea of introducing specific new races to the mix, I was thinking of potential allies for the Colonials, but new enemies would also be good! (long as they didn't upstage the Cylons;))
I've often wondered about the other organic allies of the Cylon empire?
I mean there are various references, and we see the Ovion....
I wonder what an Ovion Cruiser would look like?

[mocha2112]

Hi -

I'll probably get shot for saying this, but you all have been nice in the past so try to remember that now, ok? ;)

I'd pick up the story after G80. Yep, I think really I would. Maybe not 25 years after, more like 5 or 10. Adama has died and Boomer has taken over the G and decided to move on, leaving Earth behind. Not sure if Tigh would be around or not since he wasn't in G80. But I'd explain Athena's "absence" in G80 because of her back to back maternity leaves (two girls, in case you were wondering) and make her Boomer's second in command. We discover Sheba had a "falling out" with both Boomer and Adama, she's resigned her commission and is now a civilian Captain of a medium size ship in the fleet. She still sees her step-son, Captain Troy/Boxey, from time to time, but doesn't have a lot of contact with other warriors anymore. I'd even keep that annoying Dr. Zee kid around only because I have a rather mean plan for him. (eery music fades up..)

Our story picks up with Troy and Dillon on patrol and discover a disabled ship in the middle of nowhere that turns out to be Lt. Starbuck, who has been missing/dead now for 18 years (roughly). He's found a Cylon base, which is still being built and is not fully operational yet, and believes Apollo (Troy's long believed dead Dad) is there.

This story arch could be told in several "movies" or a long mini-series (or an even longer fan-fic, which will probably be it's fate). First, they have to save Apollo. Then, tell Boomer about the base he's about to run into. They'll have to take out that base before it can get fully operational. (How very Cain of me, eh?) And in all of this we discover that Starbuck and Apollo are actually in a fight and don't really like each other at this moment. Dr Zee would be a "plot device" for the Starbuck/ Iblis connection and poor Apollo would have his own issues with Iblis. But the main story isn't about Iblis but the Cylons and this "final" battle to see who gets to keep the base. The planet the base is on might turn out to be a good place to actually stop and settle for awhile, thus closing the chapter, if you will, for "our heroes". And, yeah, I'd end it. You want spin-offs, fine, but I'd let Starbuck, Apollo and the rest retire in peace. ;)

later....

[Centurion Draco]

Hi -

I'll probably get shot for saying this, but you all have been nice in the past so try to remember that now, ok? ;)

I'd pick up the story after G80. Yep, I think really I would. Maybe not 25 years after, more like 5 or 10. Adama has died and Boomer has taken over the G and decided to move on, leaving Earth behind. Not sure if Tigh would be around or not since he wasn't in G80. But I'd explain Athena's "absence" in G80 because of her back to back maternity leaves (two girls, in case you were wondering) and make her Boomer's second in command. We discover Sheba had a "falling out" with both Boomer and Adama, she's resigned her commission and is now a civilian Captain of a medium size ship in the fleet. She still sees her step-son, Captain Troy/Boxey, from time to time, but doesn't have a lot of contact with other warriors anymore. I'd even keep that annoying Dr. Zee kid around only because I have a rather mean plan for him. (eery music fades up..)

Our story picks up with Troy and Dillon on patrol and discover a disabled ship in the middle of nowhere that turns out to be Lt. Starbuck, who has been missing/dead now for 18 years (roughly). He's found a Cylon base, which is still being built and is not fully operational yet, and believes Apollo (Troy's long believed dead Dad) is there.

This story arch could be told in several "movies" or a long mini-series (or an even longer fan-fic, which will probably be it's fate). First, they have to save Apollo. Then, tell Boomer about the base he's about to run into. They'll have to take out that base before it can get fully operational. (How very Cain of me, eh?) And in all of this we discover that Starbuck and Apollo are actually in a fight and don't really like each other at this moment. Dr Zee would be a "plot device" for the Starbuck/ Iblis connection and poor Apollo would have his own issues with Iblis. But the main story isn't about Iblis but the Cylons and this "final" battle to see who gets to keep the base. The planet the base is on might turn out to be a good place to actually stop and settle for awhile, thus closing the chapter, if you will, for "our heroes". And, yeah, I'd end it. You want spin-offs, fine, but I'd let Starbuck, Apollo and the rest retire in peace. ;)

later....


LOL!!!
Its heresy I tell you HERESY!!!!!

;) Seriously though, Great stuff! I'd rather have this than the new show!

[mocha2112]

LOL!!!
Its heresy I tell you HERESY!!!!!

;) Seriously though, Great stuff! I'd rather have this than the new show!

Why, thank you. I enjoy dishing out some good "HERESY" from time to time. :D

I think it might be fun try to play off the whole "Return of Starbuck" theme. And just think of the possibilities for stories in between "Hand of God" and my final episode. How did Starbuck find Apollo since they appeared to get shot down in separate battles? How did they survive all those years on their own? etc. etc.

At least it would have been different, if nothing else. ;)

[julix]

Thanks Julix.
Notice I gave Sheba her own command ;)
As for boxey, After watching the DVD extras and seeing him interviewed, I just can't see Noah killing anyone, he seems just too 'nice'. He comes accross as more scientific or medical to me? Perhaps he could be in charge of cybernetics? Making more robo-daggits etc??
Come on then, how would you write the first chapter of the continuation?


I did see that about Sheba.........That is one of the things I enjoyed the most!!! She was always my ideal. I do know what you mean about Noah...lol. I will have tot hink on how I would write it, i am pretty biased with Hatch's books.

[Centurion Draco]

Why, thank you. I enjoy dishing out some good "HERESY" from time to time. :D

I think it might be fun try to play off the whole "Return of Starbuck" theme. And just think of the possibilities for stories in between "Hand of God" and my final episode. How did Starbuck find Apollo since they appeared to get shot down in separate battles? How did they survive all those years on their own? etc. etc.

At least it would have been different, if nothing else. ;)

I think its a cool idea that you actually want to do a G80 continuation!
All's fair in a hypothetical universe of fandom continuations!
Can you imagine what you could do with the flying bikes??

Would you have Apollo with a goatee like Addama had in G80?

[Centurion Draco]

I did see that about Sheba.........That is one of the things I enjoyed the most!!! She was always my ideal. I do know what you mean about Noah...lol. I will have tot hink on how I would write it, i am pretty biased with Hatch's books.

Hmmm, I shall look forward to reading it when you're ready :salute:

[mocha2112]

I think its a cool idea that you actually want to do a G80 continuation!
All's fair in a hypothetical universe of fandom continuations!
Can you imagine what you could do with the flying bikes??

Would you have Apollo with a goatee like Addama had in G80?


AHHHH!! Flying bikes??!!! NOOOOOO!!!!! :eek:

However, I thought that two-seater viper could come in handy as a nice "plot device", so that stays. ;)

Not sure who would or wouldn't have facial hair, I didn't actually get that far. I guess it would be ok - Like father, like son, eh? ;)

[mocha2112]

I did see that about Sheba.........That is one of the things I enjoyed the most!!! She was always my ideal. I do know what you mean about Noah...lol. I will have tot hink on how I would write it, i am pretty biased with Hatch's books.

Just wondering,

When you say "...pretty biased with Hatch's books", do you mean you follow them or don't follow them? No jugdment being made, I was just wondering which way you fell with them. Some things I liked, some things I hated. And let I couldn't put the books down... funny how that happens, eh? ;)

(Sheba was my fave too, second only to Apollo.)

[PredatorPt]

Sorry for the shameful plug :D :

http://battlestargalactica-fleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6917

but since I'm the "director/producer" of this continuation, I would use my fanfiction. Plenty of stuff there and in the spirit of the old BSG :D

I only "killed" two characters: Boxey (and he's not really dead) and Baltar. And I would bring characters like Sheba, Athena and Boomer back into the limelight.

What do you guys thinks? :salute:

[Centurion Draco]

I'm waiting to read the RH books, but I've only got two so far, one is signed and both are out of sequence, so I cant read them until I get around to buying the early ones :(
And obviously I'm not going to read the signed one! Tooo precious to read ;)

[julix]

Just wondering,

When you say "...pretty biased with Hatch's books", do you mean you follow them or don't follow them? No jugdment being made, I was just wondering which way you fell with them. Some things I liked, some things I hated. And let I couldn't put the books down... funny how that happens, eh? ;)

(Sheba was my fave too, second only to Apollo.)


I do follow them and like them..so I kind of have his version going in my head right now! i am up to destiny! :)

[julix]

I'm waiting to read the RH books, but I've only got two so far, one is signed and both are out of sequence, so I cant read them until I get around to buying the early ones :(
And obviously I'm not going to read the signed one! Tooo precious to read ;)
draco.......get another copy....
I think you would enjoy the books. They are good . I know some people have complained about certain points and there are some things fans didn't like but I think they are good!

[julix]

also,,,,,,

I need to mention, that Martok a member here has a story called "Dark Exodus"
it is a continuation story and is very good. Please take the time to read it, it is here in the creativity thread. I really couldn't put that down! Enjoy!

[PredatorPt]

Ok...since my plug didn't work :cry: , here's my script/ideas (but go read the original post - still needs feedback - writer's block in action since last year).

I always envisioned it a television series (BSG mind-made Second Season :D )

My fanfiction is writen in 2 books format. This is the First Book (or Season):

Two years after the events in "The Hand of God", the Fleet arrives at Human Space. It's been a rough voyage (even though the Cylons haven't attacked the fleet in that time) and after an accident that left Commander Adama in a coma, Athena injured and Boxey dead, there's a coup attempt by some Quorum members backed by Security forces. They think it's time for the civilian power to command the Fleet.

-The coup is defeated by the Warriors with the help of a Quorum member who is also the leader of a cult called "The Sons of Space" that defends that the future of the Fleet is to keep going past Earth and the other Humans. The cult defends that it's possible to have a civilization tottaly space-born (think about the so-called "Generation Ships")

- A lone Baseship appears, just as the coup is thwarted and the Fleet is still in turmoil, and attacks. The Baseship is an old model, without FTL comunications capability and commanded by a Gold Centurion. It's mission is simply to guard the borders of that forgotten part of the Cylon Empire. The main efforts of the Cylon fleets for finding the Galactica are somewhere else

- The Human Navy appears during the battle between the Cylons and the Fleet and to the Colonial's dismay, it's no match for the Cylons (it's the 23rd Century in Earth terms). The situation only changes when a Navy Carrier appears (altough it's still inferior to a Battlestar or Baseship it uses his rail guns to destroy the Cylon ship)

- First Contact is initiated between Humans from Earth and the Colonials

And now for season 2:

- One year after the First Contact, the Colonials have settled in one of the planets in Human Space. They called the planet "Eden"

- Apollo is the Commander of the Galactica, because Adama is still recovering from his injuries and decided to help the Humans in the search of remains of the 13th Tribe. His search is centered in Pluto (where the Navy found a buried ship) and in Mars - Cydonia to be more precise. There are also some remains on the Moon and in Egypt

- Starbuck left Colonial Service and married Cassie. They opened a big bar/casino/restaurant called "The Pyramid" in Eden and have a newly-born daughter called Palias. Starbuck also owns a brand of fumarellos called "Colonials". He employs many ex-Warriors that were injured in the line of duty. He's constantly racked by nightmares where he sees himself being killed in combat with a unknown type of Cylon Raider...

- Boomer is the Military Governor of Eden and the resposible for the rearming of the Fleet. In Eden's moon, Calisto, there are now several shipyards with new Battlestars being constructed. The first one will be named Kobol (spoiler - and it will be Commanded by Coronel Tigh).
There's also a new Viper being created (I'm using the Crimson Viper for this one) and Boomer wants to convince Starbuck to be it's test pilot, even if he's not in active service anymore.
When thinking about it, Starbuck realizes that the Crimson Viper is the ship he's flying in his nightmares! Can his nightmares be a vision of the future? (hint, hint)

- Athena is the Head of the Quorum and has left the Colonial Service. She's in love with Sire Digor (the head of the cult that I talked about in Book One), a relationship that's not welcomed by her brother. She's a strong leader in a Quorum left weak by the culling of the troublemakers after the coup attempt.

- Iblis reappears (he's the responsible for the disaster in Book One - the one that killed Boxey, etc...) and he brought some friends (I'll explain it later)

- A Cylon task force, led by Lucifer and with state-of-the-art BaseShips, enters Human controled space, looking for the Baseship that disapeared in Book One. That Baseship sent out a sublight SOS before being destroyed, but the message only reached a Cylon outpost one year after the battle...

- One of Iblis cohorts - Lilith - kidnaps Sheba and Starbuck and leads them to another Human colony where she shows them the corpse of a crewmember of the Pegasus. She hints to Sheba that the Human Navy knows the whereabouts of her father's Battlestar.
In fact, using necromancy, she makes the corpse reveal what happened after the events of "The Living Legend". After firing against the Baseships, Commander Cain ordered the Pegasus to ligthspeed and due to a malfunction, the Battlestar "ripped" into hyperspace where it was lost for some time (and where it detected 2 proto-Battlestars - the Hermes and the Argus, two ghostships, lost when the Colonies were developing the Lightspeed engines). After breaking out of hyperspace (in a location uncharted in Colonial Navigational Databases), the Pegasus is severely damaged and scuttled. Her survivors were picked by Human forces and the Battlestar was "towed" to a unknown location. But take in mind that this story was told by a corpse, "animated" by sorcery

- During their kidnap by Lilith, Starbuck is startled when the body of the Pegasus crewmember talks with him using the voice of Boxey...saying that "he shouldn't be afraid of what the future holds".

- Apollo his still troubled by his "son's" death in Book One and it appears that Boxey is trying to communicate with him- basically, Apollo is "seeing dead people"
His relationship with Sheba is going down the drain because she realizes he never left the "ghost" of Serina behind and never will. He loves Sheba, but doesn't want to express that feeling openly because he can't shake the feeling he'll loose her, just like he lost Serina...

- The Cylon task force starts to attack several Human planets...

[Dawg]

And you're suffering from writer's block???

:wtf:

;)

Vivid stuff.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[jewels]

Wow, Predator. that's quite a plot!

Jewels

[gmd3d]

PredatorPt
Wow very intresting .. I acan´t wait to retun home to read your post ingreater detail and add to it...
:salute:

[mocha2112]

I do follow them and like them..so I kind of have his version going in my head right now! i am up to destiny! :)

Hi -

I was rather lucky in that I was able to find each book right after they were released. However, I ended up reading them fairly far apart so my memory lapses sometimes. ;) So, it's hard for me to follow his "canon" in my "canon". Did that make sense?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but "Destiny" is the last released? If so, I think this one was of the better in that is was more character driven. "Paradis" was pretty good too. Once I got over some of the - shall we say "mistakes" he (Hatch) made in the early books - you know, getting a few things wrong like some bridge officers' genders switched and other details from the show - I just read them and they didn't really hurt that much. I do remember the first book "hurting" a bit, but it wore off with the more recent books. I wonder if the same will happen with TNS. humm... nope, don't think so. ;)

Pity I've got to wait until June for the next book... sigh...

[justjackrandom]

My continuation starts like this:

We have our credits, and are panning slowly around a star field, occasionally cutting into something bright blue-white. We finally enter the blue-white thing, and ease out through its nose: to see an oblique angle on a battlestar that is moving in slow motion. We see that it is on fire in several places, and we are approaching it slowly at first, but then with increasing speed, until we get close, then we pull away to see we have been inside a Cylon laser bolt, which slams into the battlestar as we shift into real time.

We pan around to see five battlestars, several escort ships, thousands of raiders, and a few vipers, all involved in a nasty firefight. We slide across the pod of the battlestar we are over and see it is the Triton. We then follow the camera into the ship onto the chaos that is the Triton’s bridge. The bridge crew is trying to muster some sort of defense, and launch vipers, but is not doing well. We leave the flight control officer yelling into her headset to launch at will.

We cut to the interior of the launch bay. A pilot is yelling at her crew to shut down fueling. She is told that the tanks are only at 62%. She says to shut it down anyway, she is launching. Her wingman is doing the same. They helmet up, the rams push them into the tubes, and she hits her turbo button.

We cut to a raider outside lining up on the launch tubes, and see several exploding vipers as they exit the tubes.

The pilot exits the tube and does a hard immelman under the launch bay as bolts explode around her.

The raider fires, sending bolts up a tube. Cut to the wingman as the tube collapses around him and his viper explodes inside the tube, the back blast flowing back into the launch bay, killing a number of the flight deck crew…


We will eventually learn that this is the memory of a Red Squadron pilot named Artemis, who will be one of our new main characters. She will interact with TOS characters through digital wizardry, but will be part of the new characters that will allow us to follow the Galactica immediately after HOG.


That's the plan anyway...

--JJR :salute:

[PredatorPt]

Nice cinematics in there, justjackrandom! Would love to see that one in a screen :salute:

[justjackrandom]

Nice cinematics in there, justjackrandom! Would love to see that one in a screen :salute:

Thanks! With any luck you will get the opportunity in a year or two. I'm doing final scripting for the first episode now. We have some prelim story boards in place, and have designed the few set pieces we are going to try and build. Almost all major sets will be digital, although how successful that will be is still up in the air. The plan is to cut and paste dialog scenes from TOS eps to have our new actors interact with TOS actors, as they were 25+ years ago. This first one is going to be really shoe-string, but hopefully we can get enough interest once we have an episode out there that we can form a non-profit production company, and sell advertising to pay for production costs. I have a script idea for a story that could make use of some of TOS actors as they are today, and would like to at least entertain the notion of paying them scale for the work, so we wouldn’t be in the same boat as Richard is with his trailer.

At this point, there are plans for six episodes, but we may not get that far…or we may surpass it. It will depend on a great many things.

Here's to hope...

--JJR :salute:

[julix]

Hi -

I was rather lucky in that I was able to find each book right after they were released. However, I ended up reading them fairly far apart so my memory lapses sometimes. ;) So, it's hard for me to follow his "canon" in my "canon". Did that make sense?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but "Destiny" is the last released? If so, I think this one was of the better in that is was more character driven. "Paradis" was pretty good too. Once I got over some of the - shall we say "mistakes" he (Hatch) made in the early books - you know, getting a few things wrong like some bridge officers' genders switched and other details from the show - I just read them and they didn't really hurt that much. I do remember the first book "hurting" a bit, but it wore off with the more recent books. I wonder if the same will happen with TNS. humm... nope, don't think so. ;)

Pity I've got to wait until June for the next book... sigh...


Destiny is the last book released. I think I heard the name of the new one but don't remember it now. I have heard about the inconsistantcies in Hatch's books, but to be honest(I hate to admit this I didn't notice-real observant huh.......LOL)
As for Tns I can relate to how you feel! Well keep the faith you never know, Maybe we can all have something galactica we love and all be happy....I hope so. If not I have my DVD collection of TOS and just love it :)

[Lara]

Ok...since my plug didn't work :cry: , here's my script/ideas (but go read the original post - still needs feedback - writer's block in action since last year).

I always envisioned it a television series (BSG mind-made Second Season :D )

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Hi Predator,
Thanks for the summary.

Your plug did work, for me at least, just some of us take a while to catchup cos we aren't online at work/ only pop in every other day/ have spouses who sulk if we spend all our free time in the BSG universe :D :D

I wouldn't mind betting that the fanfic writers have just about every possible idea explored some way or other. (I can hear someone joking about monkeys and typewriters doing shakespear, or is that daggits and computers?? ;) ;) )

I enjoy getting the deja vu feeling with certain details of others work, thinking 'hey, I thought it might work/ be explained by/ go that way, too!!, or the eureka moment of 'hey that is such a cool way of doing THAT!!

Cheers,
Lara

[martok2112]

PredatorPt and JustJackRandom,

Both of you have very vivid ideas for your continuations. I would love to see them in greater detail. Keep up the excellent work. :salute: :thumbsup:

Julix, thanks for the plug, and the kind words about Dark Exodus. ((((((((((((((JULIX)))))))))))))))))

Respectfully,
Martok2112 (Steve Dunlap) author, Battlestar Galactica: Dark Exodus and Battlestar Galactica: Reciprocity.

[PredatorPt]

...I enjoy getting the deja vu feeling with certain details of others work, thinking 'hey, I thought it might work/ be explained by/ go that way, too!!, or the eureka moment of 'hey that is such a cool way of doing THAT!!


That's exactly why I like this kind of thread - it gets our mental gears working... Mine need a bit of oil :D

I haven't written in more than a year, but I'm slowly building my confidence back, specially after exploring again this wonderful forum :thumbsup:

[PredatorPt]

PredatorPt and JustJackRandom,

Both of you have very vivid ideas for your continuations. I would love to see them in greater detail. Keep up the excellent work. :salute: :thumbsup:

Julix, thanks for the plug, and the kind words about Dark Exodus. ((((((((((((((JULIX)))))))))))))))))

Respectfully,
Martok2112 (Steve Dunlap) author, Battlestar Galactica: Dark Exodus and Battlestar Galactica: Reciprocity.

Coming from you, I receive that with great pride :salute:

I've read (BTW, I'm member of your yahoo group) you Dark Exodus story and I think it's very good and worth of becoming a official continuation :thumbsup:

I still haven't read Reciprocity - no time yet.

[martok2112]

Thank you, PredatorPt.

Coming from your creative mind, I also take that compliment with extreme pride and gratitude. :) And thank you for being a part of my Yahoo group.

:salute: :thumbsup:

Martok2112

[Centurion Draco]

This is turning into a great thread :D

I think its fantastic that so many people are still thinking along these lines about BSG!
I love the whole 'sliders' aspect of so many different versions being thrown into the mix, and would love to see all of them in at least short story or 'novella' form.

I've always fancied working on a 'First Contact' type story about the begining of the Cylon war.

As you'll no doubt have realised, I rather favour the Cylons!

[SpyOne]

Funny, I've been talking about this lately.
My ideas:

First, not 25 years but 50 have gone by. (Adama said Colonial people could live to 200 yahren, so this will fit well with how people have aged.)

Apollo has left the military, and represents the Capricans on the Council of Twelve.

Commander Tigh now commands the Galactica and the other warships of the fleet.
Colonel Starbuck has Tigh's old job.
Cassiopea and Starbuck are married. She is the Chief Medical Officer, and together they raise her kids from a previous marriage and several orphans Starbuck has adopted.

As many of the original cast in senior roles as they can pursuade to sign up! Amen.

Of course, one of the things to consider is where we plan on going with this. Is this just a sequel miniseries, or do we hope to make it into a new series. Because, for instance, Laurette Spang (Cassiopea) isn't acting anymore, and while she might do a mini-series she probably won't sign on for a series. We need to keep the ability to write any major character out of the show after the mini-series if the actor is not available.

By all means, a new young crew of pilots to be the central characters. Grandchildren of Apollo, orphans raised by Starbuck, and plenty we've never heard of before.

If Anne Lockheart comes back, I'd consider her for command of the Pegasus. (Iblis promised her she would see Cain again, and since Lloyd Bridges is dead he won't be doing any guest appearances, so the Galactica and Pegasus should have re-encountered each already.) In this case, I'd have Apollo a widower again, and he and Sheba are remembereing how attracted to each other they once were.

If Anne Lockheart is unavailable, Sheba might be Apollo's off-screen wife, or she might be dead.

By all means, some of the original fleet ships should have been lost over the years. There should also be some new ships in the fleet, either built by the Colonials or adopted from worlds they've passed.

Baltar died with John Colicos, and I recommend there be no mention of him. However, I am not opposed to the Cylons hunting the Fleet being led by some brilliant-yet-perpetually-off-screen master, leading fans to wonder if it is Baltar.

Right now, I like the idea that it has been decades since the Cylons were an issue (Hand of God apparently worked), and the tension of the new story is that the Cylons have finally caught up to Galactica. Maybe not.

It should be made clear that Galactica only knows in which direction to proceed to find Earth, but not how far to go. They may all be dead before they get there, or they may find it tomorrow.

[peter noble]

Cosmic zoom from space to a small, habitable planetoid with the beginnings of a small city.

Just outside the city is a small house with a garden, a man is doing some gardening. It's Commander Apollo (retired) of the Battlestar Galactica.

He hears a sound and looks up, the sun shines in his eyes and he puts a hand up to them.

There's a figure in a blue dress by a small tree just beyond the fence of Apollo's property.

The figure points to the sky.

SERINA: They're coming Apollo. Ready the Galactica, it's time to leave.

Serina disappears.

A wind starts up as Apollo drops the spade he's carrying. There is shocked look on his face.

[justjackrandom]

Cosmic zoom from space to a small, habitable planetoid with the beginnings of a small city.

Just outside the city is a small house with a garden, a man is doing some gardening. It's Commander Apollo (retired) of the Battlestar Galactica.

He hears a sound and looks up, the sun shines in his eyes and he puts a hand up to them.

There's a figure in a blue dress by a small tree just beyond the fence of Apollo's property.

The figure points to the sky.

SERINA: They're coming Apollo. Ready the Galactica, it's time to leave.

Serina disappears.

A wind starts up as Apollo drops the spade he's carrying. There is shocked look on his face.

Uh...wow. Shocked look on my face too. That is powerful!

[martok2112]

Cosmic zoom from space to a small, habitable planetoid with the beginnings of a small city.

Just outside the city is a small house with a garden, a man is doing some gardening. It's Commander Apollo (retired) of the Battlestar Galactica.

He hears a sound and looks up, the sun shines in his eyes and he puts a hand up to them.

There's a figure in a blue dress by a small tree just beyond the fence of Apollo's property.

The figure points to the sky.

SERINA: They're coming Apollo. Ready the Galactica, it's time to leave.

Serina disappears.

A wind starts up as Apollo drops the spade he's carrying. There is shocked look on his face.


Very haunting opening, Peter. Very haunting indeed.

Well done.

Martok2112 :thumbsup:

[peter noble]

Thanks Martok. Now if I could just be arsed to write the rest of it! ;)

Best,

Peter

[martok2112]

Thanks Martok. Now if I could just be arsed to write the rest of it! ;)

Best,

Peter

Peter,

Somtimes you can find times in the day where you just jot down little ideas that add to your story. A treatment, like what I did when I wrote DE (although I wrote the entire treatment in 5 hours, and posted it at CA many moons ago). But a treatment helps. It gives you the skeletal elements of your story (with the occasional quote if you think of a very key line). Then, when you find the time, you sit down and flesh out the treatment into a story....obviously at your own pace.

Just with that beginning, and your apparent sense of good drama, I think you have something there. (Good Lord these Galactica sites are rife with talent.)

With great respect, and hopes that you key this story out soon,
Martok2112 :salute:

[jewels]

Peter, that's an awesome start. :thumbsup: more please. :)